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In a fight between Jubal Early and The Operative... Who do you think would win?

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Friday, October 15, 2010 5:40 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


I'm saying Jubal. I think he's craftier and he'd cheat if he had to.


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Friday, October 15, 2010 5:49 AM

TWO

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


An assassin with many kills versus a bounty hunter who brings criminals in alive? The Operative wins, Jubal Early dies.

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity", where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, October 15, 2010 6:04 AM

EVILDINOSAUR


Yea, I'm gonna have to go with the Operative, pre-Serenity that is. Post-Serenity it'd be a much more even fight I think.

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Friday, October 15, 2010 6:35 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

An assassin with many kills versus a bounty hunter who brings criminals in alive? The Operative wins, Jubal Early dies.

It's reasonable to speculate that it's harder to bring someone in alive than to just kill them. I think Jubal wins every time because he's a wily thug, whereas the Operative is more a poet-warrior.






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Friday, October 15, 2010 7:20 AM

STORYMARK


Hmm, hard to say...

I sure would like to see it, though.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, October 15, 2010 7:36 AM

THEHAPPYTRADER


Hard to say, while I suspect the operative is far better trained, Early is crafty and used to working alone. If he doesn't have alliance support, I think the operative could very well lose to Early.

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Friday, October 15, 2010 7:43 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Originally posted by two:
Quote:

An assassin with many kills versus a bounty hunter who brings criminals in alive? The Operative wins, Jubal Early dies.


He was to bring in River alive but not necessarily Simon.


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Friday, October 15, 2010 7:45 AM

CHRISISALL


In my mind Jubal is kind of nutty. The Operative would exploit that.
Operative wins.


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Friday, October 15, 2010 9:02 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Yeah but the Operative has all that 'fall on your sword -honour in death' malarkey going on.

As Bruto (Eli Wallach) said in the Good the Bad and the Ugly:

"If you can shoot, shoot! Don't talk!"




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Friday, October 15, 2010 9:09 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Jubal talks too much - but then, so does the operative...



Tuco had some sound advice there, didn't he ?
(LMAO, I never noticed before he fires the final shot gangsta-style, that's fekkin hilarious.)

-F

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Friday, October 15, 2010 12:42 PM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Thanks for finding that clip Fremdfirma.

...Now I want to see The Good The Bad and The Ugly! Great flick!


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Friday, October 15, 2010 2:15 PM

GWEK


I imagine they'd talk each other to death, but I give the advantage to the Operative, ultimately, if only because he'd get frustrated and annoyed and shoot.

OPERATIVE: We're making better worlds. All of them, better worlds.
JUBAL: Who?
OPERATIVE: The Alliance.
JUBAL: The lions? If you heard me roar you'd think I was one of them.
OPERATIVE: What?
JUBAL: I like the quality of things. Three dimensional things. They're heavy. Solid. Multi-dimensional.
OPERATIVE: Huh?
JUBAL: Maybe you'll find your moment. Everybody has a moment. You just need to wait to find it.
OPERATIVE: Whuh--?!?
JUBAL: Tell me, Operative, have you ever been raped?
OPERATIVE: What the what? (beat) Oh, to hell with this!!!

The Operative shoots Jubal in the neck.

JUBAL: Did I make you angry?
OPERATIVE: Do you know what your sin is?
JUBAL: Sin, sin, original sin. Interesting thing about original sin. Woman brought it on man, but only woman can make life. Does that seem right to you?

The Operative stabs Jubal.

JUBAL: Gack!

As Jubal dies, The Operative wipes his brow and looks around.

OPERATIVE: Gee, I hope I don't come off as that pompous and talk-talk-talky.

The Operative falls on his sword, just to be safe.

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Friday, October 15, 2010 2:29 PM

CHRISISALL


LOL. That was good> *snicker*


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Friday, October 15, 2010 7:35 PM

CANTTAKESKY


Bwahaha! Good one.

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Friday, October 15, 2010 11:54 PM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Nice one Gwek.

That was awesome!


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Saturday, October 16, 2010 12:49 AM

MUTT999



@GWEK-LOL, spot on!!




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Saturday, October 16, 2010 2:28 AM

MEATPUPPET42


Use Mal as the measuring stick.
Jubal beat up Mal and knocked him out quickly
The Operative had some trouble doing the same, in fact was closer to a even match.

Jubal would bitch slap the operative.




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I love it. It's like wiping your ass with silk.

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Saturday, October 16, 2010 3:06 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by two:
An assassin with many kills versus a bounty hunter who brings criminals in alive? The Operative wins, Jubal Early dies.



Does that seem right to you ?


Yeah, it does.

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Saturday, October 16, 2010 4:40 AM

GWEK


Quote:

Originally posted by meatpuppet42:
Use Mal as the measuring stick.
Jubal beat up Mal and knocked him out quickly
The Operative had some trouble doing the same, in fact was closer to a even match.

Jubal would bitch slap the operative.



I submit that Mal is a flawed measuring stick (although this does bring up a wrinkle).

Sure, Jubal knocks Mal out quickly... but he also ambushes Mal and has a HUGE advantage.

(I'm assuming the this theoretical fight would be relatively fair, with neither side having a huge advantage... or else The Operative can just have one of the ships in his armada blow Jubal out of the sky!)

Mal is not a great measure because his strength ISN'T fighting. He actually kinda sucks at it. His strength is in fighting back and/or taking a beating.

By stunning Mal, Jubal doesn't fight him at his "best" (as the Operative does, twice).

If Jubal can take out The Operative quickly, he wins. If he can't, though, I still think the Operative has a big advantage.

Jubal might, as you say, bitch slap the Operative. But then he'd start talking and give the Operative opening after opening to exploit. :) Heck, if Simon had the stones, Jubal would be dead.


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Saturday, October 16, 2010 5:01 AM

ASORTAFAIRYTALE


The operative hands down.
Jubal doesn't think enough, and he appears to be mildly insane. On the other hand, the Operative is a great strategist and comes very close to actually defeating Mal.


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Saturday, August 20, 2011 1:35 PM

MRHIDE


^JUBAL: Tell me, Operative, have you ever been raped?^
This just knocked mine brain out

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Tuesday, August 23, 2011 1:23 PM

RIONAEIRE

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I agree with the Opperative winning, Jubal has too many flaws in his gameplan, he seems to leave himself open often as said above. I loved Gwek's rendition of how things would go down. They do both talk a lot and they both like abstractions. Jubal's appetites may also get in the way when faced with a raiser honed warrior like the Opperative, any distraction would be a disadvantage.

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Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:16 PM

BRUCEPLUTO


Quote:

Originally posted by MrHide:
^JUBAL: Tell me, Operative, have you ever been raped?^



Operative “ No, when I was in prison, I did the pitching.”

Early “So you were it prison?”

Operative “ Did a stretch for not delivering the Tams. Had some postal worker as my g/f ”

Early “So how’d you get out?”

Operative “ I got to be one with the prison. I became the prison.”

Early “ That’s some nonsenseable crap, ain’t nobody can do that!”

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