GENERAL DISCUSSIONS

Unofficial, unpopular, and unmedicated theories on the universe...

POSTED BY: IREMISST
UPDATED: Friday, June 11, 2010 07:06
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Tuesday, June 1, 2010 6:11 PM

IREMISST


I know I'm gonna regret this but I can't help it... I have more than an unhealthy fascination with the big questions. Yanno, like WHY are we here or WHAT makes us who we are?

Hubby has a theory that this is actually Purgatory...Something like we are <> one soul and we will all stay here until we all live every possible life in every possible way in every dimension in the universe before we can cosmically move on? (to what!? ummm idunno???) Kinda like an infinate discovery engine. Or at least that's my take on it...

I will posit that most of you believe in a god(s) or no god(s) and that most of us are already aware of the traditionally taught theories... Yea, we get it. I want to hear the untraditional ones, pretty please?

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Tuesday, June 1, 2010 6:20 PM

BYTEMITE


If it turns out it's all a dream, where do dreams go when people wake up?

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Tuesday, June 1, 2010 6:29 PM

IREMISST


The Infinate Discovery Engine, silly...

Actually, I have this line in my head from Peter Pan about I'll meet you in the space between your dreams?...
OR Maybe they get carried away on the back of a giant turtle...
You wantin' to wake up now, hon?


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Tuesday, June 1, 2010 6:33 PM

RAHLMACLAREN

"Damn yokels, can't even tell a transport ship ain't got no guns on it." - Jayne Cobb


I want to know how image and video files are stored and viewed in the brain.


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Tuesday, June 1, 2010 6:36 PM

IREMISST


The same "god particle" that allows us to recognize we exist?

I'm more interested in how those files get corrupted and distorted for evil intent.

So far all's I got is free radicles...

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Tuesday, June 1, 2010 6:44 PM

IREMISST


Anybody see that study that said that the difference in the power of "anti-matter" and "matter" is like a piddley 1% in favor of matter and that's why the universe has matter? That's how my limited understanding of the subject is, anyway...That's a real headscratcher.

So, is the difference between Luke Skywalker and his father just 1 percent good?

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Tuesday, June 1, 2010 7:03 PM

RAHLMACLAREN

"Damn yokels, can't even tell a transport ship ain't got no guns on it." - Jayne Cobb


If anti-matter exists how would we even be able to detect it? Wouldn't all our pro-matter-based instruments say "there's nothing there"?


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Tuesday, June 1, 2010 7:28 PM

IREMISST


Lookup>> Antimatter Academy

Something about when you have an antimatter particle and it hits a matter particle you get boom?

Wiki says an OLD theory was antimatter gives off antigravity???? but it makes about as much sense as anything else...

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Wednesday, June 2, 2010 1:18 AM

LWAVES


Quote:

Originally posted by Iremisst:
Hubby has a theory that this is actually Purgatory...Something like we are <> one soul and we will all stay here until we all live every possible life in every possible way in every dimension in the universe before we can cosmically move on? (to what!? ummm idunno???) Kinda like an infinate discovery engine. Or at least that's my take on it...



So if we all live an infinite number of lifetimes, playing out every possible life in every possible way then we would never move on. How would we ever be finished all the possibilies? We would just go on for infinity never reaching an end.

I've never gone for the theory of alternate universes/timelines playing out different variations of the one we know. It's good for TV and movies but that's it. I can wrap my head around the idea but it's just too improbable. Like infinity, endless, everlasting and other terms like these they are just concepts brought in to explain what we don't know or understand and (as humans) never will.
There is only the one reality or universe IMO. This one, the one we're in. It's full of stuff we will come to understand in time and full of even more stuff that we won't.

As for offbeat theories - and I don't believe this one but kinda like it. How about we are all just some aliens science experiment to see what happens?



"The greatest invention ever is not the wheel. It's the second wheel." - Rich Hall

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Wednesday, June 2, 2010 1:56 AM

IREMISST


Quote:

Originally posted by lwaves:

As for offbeat theories - and I don't believe this one but kinda like it. How about we are all just some aliens science experiment to see what happens?



Yeah, Star Trek NG had that one when you put all DNA together, up pops the "Founders" to say "Do you like what we've done for ya?" Quite a few celebs subscribe to that one, and it's fun to toy with...

Way I thought, infinity was just our word for a really freakin' long time or space. Just 'cause you can't see the end, doesn't mean there ain't one. Everything gotta have a start and a stop...

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Wednesday, June 2, 2010 2:27 AM

SOULOFSERENITY

The Man They Call Soul...


I'm simply of the theory that something isn't quite right here. Not sure what it is, but something in this "existence" is just a bit off.

______________________

Soul, Security Chief of the Sereni-Tree, Captain of Destiny.

Mantichorus: "So is there a reason they call you 'Soul'?"
Soul (after a long pause): "Yeah. Because I have one."

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Wednesday, June 2, 2010 2:52 AM

LWAVES


Quote:

Originally posted by Iremisst:
Way I thought, infinity was just our word for a really freakin' long time or space. Just 'cause you can't see the end, doesn't mean there ain't one. Everything gotta have a start and a stop...



Exactly.
We as humans can't grasp the scope of the scale some things can be (i.e. the size of the universe), so a term/concept is attached to indicate this but I too think there is an end point, even if it maybe means we come back to the start again.

I always remember from school that we were taught that outer space existed in a vacuum, that there was nothing there. I was never convinced by that and always thought that there must be something there but we currently were unable to detect whatever it was. Again, a theory limited by what we understand as humans.

The other thing I do is look to the past and see how laughable some of their theories are now. Back then they were sometimes deemed completely true. A flat earth, the sun in orbit around us and more recently how many planets are in our solar system or how many moons the earth has.
How wrong they were and how wrong some current theories will be.



"The greatest invention ever is not the wheel. It's the second wheel." - Rich Hall

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Wednesday, June 2, 2010 5:00 AM

KC5F


I don't know about the WHY, but a theory I came up with in junior high covered some of the WHAT. Not that I subscribe to it, but it seemed somewhat fulfilling to a science-minded kid at the time:

There exists throughout the universe a field of a special form of energy which we could consider a life force. Somewhere between conception and birth we receive a quantized unit of this "energy" which is our soul, our essence. When we die, it is released and returned to the pool.

The hazy memory or knowledge of the pool would be the source of beliefs in heaven and God. What could be more heavenly than being a part of something so all-encompassing?

(Pretty basic, but I think it probably qualifies as non-traditional.)

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Wednesday, June 2, 2010 6:14 AM

ASORTAFAIRYTALE


We're all characters in a novel being written by a crazy person.


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Wednesday, June 2, 2010 8:27 AM

WHODIED


Quote:

We're all characters in a novel being written by a crazy person.


"The world as myth." Robert Heinlein went that way, and further, as we each 'write' novels that create more worlds/lives.

Pantheistic multi-solipsism, he called it.




--WhoDied


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Yeah, we're mostly just giving each other significant glances and laughing incessantly.



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Wednesday, June 2, 2010 6:38 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Would you rather be dust in space, plasma gas in a star, infitesimal nothingness in a black hole, or boiling rock inside a planet?

LIFE: Enjoy it while ya got it!

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Wednesday, June 2, 2010 6:55 PM

IREMISST


Quote:

Originally posted by SoulOfSerenity:
I'm simply of the theory that something isn't quite right here. Not sure what it is, but something in this "existence" is just a bit off.




Yep, you said it... I swear I think that every day...


Humming -Somethin' happenin' here
What it is ain't ex-act-ily clear
There's a man with a gun over there
A-tellin' me I got to beware

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Wednesday, June 2, 2010 8:29 PM

SIGMANUNKI


42

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I am on The Original List (twice). We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

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Thursday, June 3, 2010 6:22 AM

WHODIED


Gotta agree with PirateNews on this one.

Life: it beats the alternative.
Beats it to death...



--WhoDied


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Thursday, June 3, 2010 6:38 AM

OLDGUY

What Would Mal do ?


Dude (dudet)..our universe is but a spec on the tip of a snowflake that is currently falling through the sky of a yet larger world..our millienia will end when we hit the ground...which of course is on a world that is part of yet another universe that is merely a spec on someone else's snowflake..get it? we're not Big Damn Deals after all...hang on.. I've got to pick a couple solar systems out of my nose hairs...

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Thursday, June 3, 2010 8:39 AM

WHODIED


But leave the Wise to wrangle, and with me
The Quarrel of the Universe let be:
And, in some corner of the Hubbub coucht,
Make Game of that which makes as much of Thee.

--The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam by Edward FitzGerald, V.3, Q.45, 1872

--WhoDied


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Yeah, we're mostly just giving each other significant glances and laughing incessantly.



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Thursday, June 3, 2010 4:51 PM

IREMISST


SigmaNunki Wrote:


42



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Yeah, I was wondering when somebody'd get to that one...


So long and thanks for all the fish!

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Thursday, June 3, 2010 5:02 PM

IREMISST


Quote:

Originally posted by KC5F:
There exists throughout the universe a field of a special form of energy which we could consider a life force.




Yeah, I got that, too...Only problem I have is the term "life force" is just such a pathetically lacking term. I feel like someday I'll learn Japanese and they will have a word that just sums it up so much better. That and Star Wars turned "The Force" into some laughable glam magic trick and I just can't take it seriously now.

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Thursday, June 3, 2010 5:39 PM

SIMPLYAKY


I dunno when I developed this idea, but I've always thought time was a circle- there is no beginning and no end, just one thing after another after another and so on and so forth until things eventually reboot. Like the classic egg-chicken-egg delima- the egg is at one end of the circle and the chicken is at the other.

And as to souls, I've always thought all our souls get reincarnated continually- not necessarily "growing", just recycled, and it probably works backwards to our idea of time (populations grow, so you take the number of souls that existed at the time of biggest population before the circular reset and distribute it throughout the rest of the cycle).

Hopefully that made sense and is nonpopular enough for you ^.^

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Thursday, June 3, 2010 5:49 PM

IREMISST


Quote:

Originally posted by SimplyAky:


Hopefully that made sense and is nonpopular enough for you




Oooh, I'm sorry, your theory is one vote more popular than that one about snowflakes? and nosehairs? -wha? ...Yours is about chickens and recycling, I think

You don't win our unpopularity prize for today, but thanks for playing! And remember to come back and play tomorrow for a chance to win this nifty new Bowel Disrupter in nickel-plated finish! Thursday's prize is an Empathy Gun!!!

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Thursday, June 3, 2010 5:55 PM

SIMPLYAKY


-giggle- Well then I shall retreat with the semi-dignity of being slightly popular, and see if I can do better next time

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Friday, June 4, 2010 5:29 AM

OPTIMUS1998


Quote:

Originally posted by SoulOfSerenity:
I'm simply of the theory that something isn't quite right here. Not sure what it is, but something in this "existence" is just a bit off.



the matrix has us...


i came up with a similar idea well before the movies...
not the we are batteries for our machine masters part, but that this is some kind of virtual world, and we are all in our own interconnected little pods waiting to "wake up" when we reach a certain point

not saying a believe it myself, but it would explain some stuff...

then there is the paranoid part of my brain where this is some overly elaborate "Truman Show" and I'm Truman"



Make Cartoons, Not War
- Sue Blu
I was a Lima loser for 29 years before "glee" introduced us to the term. -ME

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Friday, June 4, 2010 6:28 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


I have a theory that once the universe is mapped, it's going to resemble, in remarkable detail, a tree's root system and branches, or an animal's circulatory system. Hence, we are all cells in a living universe. :)

Mike

On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. --Auraptor

This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on. --Fremdfirma

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Tuesday, June 8, 2010 5:38 PM

IREMISST


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
I have a theory that once the universe is mapped, it's going to resemble, in remarkable detail, a tree's root system and branches, or an animal's circulatory system. Hence, we are all cells in a living universe. :)

Mike

Quote:




Hmmm... So humanity REALLY IS just a cancer on the ass end of a giant space monkey? It is all so clear now!

And, YES, it really did take me all week to come up with THAT!

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Tuesday, June 8, 2010 6:14 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


We may very well be, Irie...

... or we could be the next step in the evolution of the universe.

Which scenario is scarier?


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Tuesday, June 8, 2010 6:17 PM

IREMISST


Unfortunately, Humanity = Cancer is a concept that is quite familliar to me by now, so I'll stick to that one, thanks!

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Tuesday, June 8, 2010 6:17 PM

IREMISST


Unfortunately, Humanity = Cancer is a concept that is quite familliar to me by now, so I'll stick to that one, thanks!

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Wednesday, June 9, 2010 4:11 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Quote:

Originally posted by Iremisst:
Yanno, like WHY are we here or WHAT makes us who we are?



Luck!
- Things were spinning in random disarray an then: Whallop! That atom, hit this atom, they had a thing going on etc, etc.... Then LIFE happened outa pure chance! Fact we [humanity] think it means more is but a testament to our own arrogance...

...And long may it live too! I like it around here.

Cartoons - http://cirqusartsandmusic.blogspot.com

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Wednesday, June 9, 2010 4:13 PM

CATPIRATE


God is more than we can ever understand in a million life times. God sends the Holy Spirit to help us. Teachers like Jesus to guide us. Now we are spirit beings at birth we enter the soul which is in the body. God loves us and once us to come to his love. Mammond is which binds us to the earthly wants which keeps us blind to our spiritualness. To ascend we probably do reincarnate till we become more spiritual beings and release the chains of mamond. Sin is what is wrong with this world. That is the evil. The ego is in us all the false pride, hiding most of the time. When you see your ego you will know what it is meant by repent. This is the first step in becoming a better spiritual being in the light of god. That is what Jesus taught about the kingdom of god is inside you.

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Wednesday, June 9, 2010 5:18 PM

IREMISST


Wow, we've made it to 35 posts before The People Who Shalt Not Read The Title Thread interrupt with their own personalised brand of narcissism and tell us what we shall and shall not believe...

Quite frankly, I'm amazed it's gotten this far...



"Ah, yes, but you forget how comforting an exclusionary religion that says "nah-nuh nah-nuh-I'm right and the rest of you little peons are completely wrong" can be to those not already convinced of their own innate worth, let alone anyone else's intelligence..."

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Wednesday, June 9, 2010 5:32 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:
Would you rather be dust in space, plasma gas in a star, infitesimal nothingness in a black hole, or boiling rock inside a planet?

LIFE: Enjoy it while ya got it!




But if I'm here, and I'm me, then I've already been all of those, and more. I am multitudes; I am infinite, stars in my pocket like grains of sand...

Mike

On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. --Auraptor

This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on. --Fremdfirma

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Thursday, June 10, 2010 10:57 AM

CLJOHNSTON108


Quote:

Originally posted by optimus1998:
Quote:

Originally posted by SoulOfSerenity:
I'm simply of the theory that something isn't quite right here. Not sure what it is, but something in this "existence" is just a bit off.



the matrix has us...


i came up with a similar idea well before the movies...
not the we are batteries for our machine masters part, but that this is some kind of virtual world, and we are all in our own interconnected little pods waiting to "wake up" when we reach a certain point

not saying a believe it myself, but it would explain some stuff...

then there is the paranoid part of my brain where this is some overly elaborate "Truman Show" and I'm Truman"


Okay, this is the thread I've been waiting for!

Folks are always arguing between "Creation" and "The Big Bang", which both start with "The Void", and everything forming out of it.
I've always been more interested in that Vasty Nothingness: Just where the hell did that come from?
Doesn't seem real, it simply can't exist.
In a 3D modeling program, you have an empty grey "workspace" that's as vast as your computer's memory will allow.
Perhaps The Black is just the workspace in a much bigger program.

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Thursday, June 10, 2010 1:45 PM

TRAVELER


How do you get something from nothing? The Big Bang holds up until you ask, "What went bang?" I have heard there is some explanation in the String Theory. That still needs something to get it started. So I am at a loss as to where the original substance came from.

So the universe is infinite. And how does the human mind grasp that?

Why? Maybe God was lonely or bored. The universe is very active and filled with possibilities to keep anyone busy observing it. Maybe He/She wanted to to share his existance with others. A selfless act. I just try to do my best, which usually falls short. But I believe the unverse was made imperfect so there would be all kinds of interactions. A perfect universe would be a single particle suspended in a void. That would be dull. Particles bouncing off each other and all the different forces pushing and pulling make existance much more exciting. Look at all the craziness here on Earth and imagine it to the Nth degree. Got to have a mind that is beyond us to see it all or even imagine it all. Here it is. Does it really matter what or why? It is here and we do what we feel is the best.


http://www.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=28764731
Traveler

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Thursday, June 10, 2010 1:47 PM

CATPIRATE


Mist hold on you ask for my opinion. That is all. I am not preachy. It is just a gnostic mysticism view. Look at why are we here and what is the universe is the thread.

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Friday, June 11, 2010 6:08 AM

OPPYH


Quote:

Originally posted by traveler:
How do you get something from nothing? The Big Bang holds up until you ask, "What went bang?" I have heard there is some explanation in the String Theory. That still needs something to get it started. So I am at a loss as to where the original substance came from.

So the universe is infinite. And how does the human mind grasp that?

Why? Maybe God was lonely or bored. The universe is very active and filled with possibilities to keep anyone busy observing it. Maybe He/She wanted to to share his existance with others. A selfless act. I just try to do my best, which usually falls short. But I believe the unverse was made imperfect so there would be all kinds of interactions. A perfect universe would be a single particle suspended in a void. That would be dull. Particles bouncing off each other and all the different forces pushing and pulling make existance much more exciting. Look at all the craziness here on Earth and imagine it to the Nth degree. Got to have a mind that is beyond us to see it all or even imagine it all. Here it is. Does it really matter what or why? It is here and we do what we feel is the best.

Even the greatest scientific minds are stumped. Stephen Hawking said "I understand the universe and how it began, but now I'd like to know why it exists".
He also gave advise to his children: "Stare at the stars and not your feet" in other words, don't lose your sense of wonderment it's the key to discovery.

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70's TV FOREVER

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Friday, June 11, 2010 6:08 AM

OPPYH


double post

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Friday, June 11, 2010 7:06 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Other good advice to remember when pondering the universe, or exploring it:

"Don't forget your towel."

"Enjoy every sandwich."

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