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The SPOILER thread for Serenity the movie

POSTED BY: SASJA
UPDATED: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 18:01
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Friday, March 12, 2004 11:34 PM

SASJA


I thought the board could use one of these - as a die hard hater of spoilers myself (especially when it comes to Joss Whedon), I never the less acknowledge the fact that some of the good people posting here love these things. So, to ensure our future harmonious co-existence on this board, I thought I'd start this thread where all spoilers and spoiler based speculations can take place. Hope you like the idea


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Monday, March 15, 2004 1:45 AM

SASJA


No-one has responded - so is this a bad idea? Any other suggestions? Just to put the first spoiler in here, this thread would have been the perfect place to announce this:
Quote:

Originally posted by outlander:
Sombody else posted this link but it didn't have a heading that stood out. So I thought I would repost it with a better heading.

http://www.browncoats.com/movie1.html

Producer: Barry Mendel
Director / Writer: Joss Whedon
Casting Directors: Amy McIntyre Britt / Anya Colloff
Casting Associate: Sari Knight
Casting Assistant: Carrie Levin
Start Date: June 2004
LOCATION: Los Angeles
HARD COPY SUBMISSIONS TO:
CFB CASTING
2260 CENTINELA AVENUE
LOS ANGELES, CA 90064
NOTE: This project is set 500 years in the future, when a universal government has
subdued much of the known galaxy, but parties of rebels, outlaws, thieves and
grifters operate on the loosely-policed fringes of the final frontier.


CAST:
MAL: NATHAN FILLION
INARA: MORENA BACCARIN
JAYNE: ADAM BALDWIN
RIVER: SUMMER GLAU
SIMON: SEAN MAHER
KAYLEE: JEWEL STAITE
ZOE: GINA TORRES
WASH: ALAN TUDYK


All roles open to ethnicities (except River at 10). PLEASE SUBMIT ALL ETHNICITIES.


[THE OPERATIVE] A Government agent, The Operative is thoughtful, a little
removed, with wire-rimmed glasses and neatly trimmed hair, wearing a suit too
nondescript to be a uniform and too neat to be casual wear. An expert martial artist,
assassin, investigator and tracker, who moves with the fluid grace of a killer and
speaks with the eloquent sophistication of a very intelligent man. Cool in his strategic
planning but a bit feral when provoked, The Operative is on a headlong collision
course with a rogue ship full of renegades and thieves...LEAD


[MR. UNIVERSE] An unkempt young man, sleep-deprived, over-caffeinated and kinda
sweet, he lives in an empty industrial complex on a deserted moon. Accompanied
only by his lovebot, Mr. Universe is the ultimate information junkie, monitoring
pretty much everything in the universe (hence his name) through a variety of video
feeds and monitors. An old buddy of Mal, Mr. Universe knows he'll only hear from his
pal if he's in mortal danger and needs a secret code -- or something -- to get him
out of the latest spitstorm...LEAD/CAMEO 3 scenes.


SERENITY page 2


[DOCTOR MATHIAS] 35-50. A cold man, more than a little satisfied with himself, Doctor
Mathias is not instantly likable -- nor gradually, for that matter. He fiddles with the cerebral
cortices of teenagers, and his pride in his questionable achievements has made him blind to
potential ethics violations...9 speeches & 15 lines, 2 scenes


[MINGO & FANTY] 20s. A pair of young tough identical twins, whose social status is
somewhere between gangsters and fur-traders. With accents that sound lower class British,
Mingo and Fanty are indistinguishable from each other. Middlemen who handle stolen goods
and keep the best part of the cut, they are the equivalent of the Kray Brothers of the outer
rim of the galaxy. Intent on screwing Mal after his latest bank job goes badly awry, Mingo and
Fanty have a quarrelsome negotiation with the cantankerous Mal, who wants to keep more
than 60% of his haul.
British accents are preferable but not a must...2 speeches & 8
lines, 2 scenes; 1 speech & 5 lines, 2 scenes


[SHEYDRA] A slightly older companion (40-45), Sheydra is elegant, likeable and well-spoken.
She lives in a Companion Training House with Inara, and compliments her on her skill at
training a new generation of consorts and courtesans. But her compliments fail to impress
Inara, who is convinced that her latest crop of students are sweet, but hopelessly gauche and
too undisciplined ever to qualify as true Companions. Sheydra tries to draw out Inara's
reminiscences of her adventures with Mal...3 speeches & 7 lines, 1 scene


[TEACHER] The 30-50 female teacher of a group of highly gifted children, including 12 year
old River, she is a soft-spoken, intelligent woman who tries to instill a belief in the virtues of
The Alliance in her students...2 speeches & 11 lines, 2 scenes


[DOCTOR CARON] 40-60. female scientist (think Jane Goodall), Doctor Caron is seen as a
hologram. On the desolate planet of Miranda, Doctor Caron leaves behind her hologram as an
urgent message to future explorers...6 speeches & 3 lines, 1 scene


[LENORE] Early-mid 20's; A mannikin like lovebot, she is the sole companion of Mr. Universe,
and lives with him on a distant and isolated moon. Dormant while Mr. Universe chats with Mal,
she ultimately passes along a secret message to Mal...1 speech & 5 lines, 3 scenes


[RIVER TAM AT 10] River seen at 10 years old, she is a very bright young woman with
remarkable mental powers. Insightful and empathetic, she intuitively understands the frontier
rebels and their quest for freedom...1 speech & 5 lines, 2 scenes
SHOULD RESEMBLE
SUMMER GLAU AT 10 YEARS OLD


[YOUNG MAN] A young tough, he is one of the hostages in the bank heist. Aggressive enough
to think about shooting his way out of trouble, he foolishly pursues the bank robbers, hoping
to hitch a ride with them out of trouble...3 lines, 2 scenes


[ENSIGN] 20s. A young ensign aboard a spaceship, he ferries The Operative during his cross-galaxy
pursuit of the Serenity...1 speech & 3 lines, at least 2 scenes


[GUARD] A young alliance bank guard on a far-distant trading station, he is an easily cowed
greenhorn...6 lines, 2 scenes




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Monday, March 15, 2004 4:57 AM

DUKE


Hmmm.....

I note that while Alan is back in the cast, we still seem to be missing Ron.




"I'll be in my bunk..."

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Monday, March 15, 2004 4:59 AM

DUKE


Also, I think I would make the perfect Mr. Universe. Wonder where to send my resume & headshot. I mean, it's basically ultimate comic book nerd in space, right? Yeah, I can do that.


Wish I had a Lovebot!



"I'll be in my bunk..."

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Monday, March 15, 2004 5:14 AM

DTT


Quote:

Originally posted by Duke:
Wish I had a Lovebot!
i]



What is it with Joss and lovebots?

"You look like me. We're very pretty."

"You didn't have to wound that man."
"Yeah, I know. It was just funny."

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Tuesday, March 16, 2004 1:33 PM

SUCCATASH


I am so happy about a Firefly movie, but I must say so far it's been a bumpy ride.

First, we're told that it's not called Firefly. I was disappointed, but no big deal.

Then, we learn that Ron and Alan haven't signed. Scary.

Then, we get this kooky casting list. Alan is back but still no sign of Ron.

Come on, "Mr. Universe?" "Mingo and Fanty?" A love bot and a helpful hologram?

I gotta say so far this sounds really crappy.

Oh, and by the way, the casting list has been removed from browncoats.com. Strange. I hope it was fake.

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Tuesday, March 16, 2004 6:22 PM

STEVE580


Quote:

Originally posted by Succatash:

Come on, "Mr. Universe?" "Mingo and Fanty?" A love bot and a helpful hologram?
I gotta say so far this sounds really crappy.


This script is a fake. I'd stake your life on it.
-Steve

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Wednesday, March 17, 2004 4:43 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Succatash wrote:

Quote:

Oh, and by the way, the casting list has been removed from browncoats.com. Strange. I hope it was fake.


I noticed when I checked out Browncoats.com this morning that the list was gone. Wonder why it got pulled.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."


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Wednesday, March 17, 2004 5:58 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important


Quote:

Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
Succatash wrote:

Quote:

Oh, and by the way, the casting list has been removed from browncoats.com. Strange. I hope it was fake.


I noticed when I checked out Browncoats.com this morning that the list was gone. Wonder why it got pulled.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."





Hi all,

I hate to point this out, but sometimes things get pulled because they are correct. I remember that several times during LOTR production, correct spoilers and pictures were posted on various boards and sites that were later pulled at the behest of the studios.

In exchange, the studio promised exclusive spoilers to the cooperative sites.

Also, it should be noted that many scripts might sound hokey if reduced to their essential bones:


"When space-prostitutes become embroiled in a child custody fight, they enlist the aid of the Serenity crew, trading sexual favors for tactical knowhow."

"When Inara is hired by a client to service him for the weekend, Mal becomes jealous and accidentally challenges the client to a sword duel."

"Mal and Wash use witty banter to survive torture at the hands of Niska. The Serenity crew take up arms against an entire space station to save their Captain."

"The Serenity crew must move cargo off of a world where Jayne is worshipped my Mud Farmers."


--Anthony







"Those who beat their swords into plowshares usually end up plowing for those who didn't."

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."

-Benjamin Franklin

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Wednesday, March 17, 2004 6:03 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Quote:

Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hi all,

I hate to point this out, but sometimes things get pulled because they are correct. I remember that several times during LOTR production, correct spoilers and pictures were posted on various boards and sites that were later pulled at the behest of the studios.

In exchange, the studio promised exclusive spoilers to the cooperative sites.

Also, it should be noted that many scripts might sound hokey if reduced to their essential bones:


"When space-prostitutes become embroiled in a child custody fight, they enlist the aid of the Serenity crew, trading sexual favors for tactical knowhow."

"When Inara is hired by a client to service him for the weekend, Mal becomes jealous and accidentally challenges the client to a sword duel."

"Mal and Wash use witty banter to survive torture at the hands of Niska. The Serenity crew take up arms against an entire space station to save their Captain."

"The Serenity crew must move cargo off of a world where Jayne is worshipped my Mud Farmers."


--Anthony



I see your point Anthony, and agree that they could very well have been factual and were taken down at the request of Universal, Joss or one of the Powers That Be.

It is interesting they were taken down so quickly.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."


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Wednesday, March 17, 2004 8:57 AM

KALIMEERI


One of the threads I read on the OB said someone at Browncoats.com received a letter alleging copyright infringement, and that's why it was taken down.

(Throwing a grain of salt at everything in sight) but you never know, do you?

--"this room don't say a damned thing"--Jubal Early

Jen dao mei.

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Wednesday, March 17, 2004 9:02 AM

STATIC


I wonder if they wouldn't have suddenly decided to have subservient robot-type thingys because the folks at 'Versal have a problem with the whole 'slaves' issue.. .which is what they WERE using in the FF universe . . .as opposed to robots.

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Wednesday, March 17, 2004 2:04 PM

ANJIN


I don't know if anyone anyone has looked at the removed page recently, but a new placeholder has gone up stating simply:

Quote:

This information was removed at the request of the copyright holder.


Gotta make you think. I, for one, think that we are looking at the really deal here.

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http://webpages.charter.net/anjinm

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Wednesday, March 17, 2004 2:26 PM

SHINY


Is it possible that although the casting sheet overall was real, some of the info on it was intentionally made-up or altered to throw people off, knowing that the info would eventually get leaked?

RIVER
Purple elephants are flying.
MAL
Good. Thanks for the update.

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Wednesday, March 17, 2004 2:52 PM

ANJIN


Quote:

Originally posted by Shiny:
Is it possible that although the casting sheet overall was real, some of the info on it was intentionally made-up or altered to throw people off, knowing that the info would eventually get leaked?


How much of that do you really think happens? I'm not usually Mister Spoiler-Guy, but the studio-originated misinformation that I've experienced in the past has been more direct. It seems like too much work to twist a casting sheet on the possibility that it would be leaked. If anyone knows of such an instance, please speak up. I love to hear things like that.

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Wednesday, March 17, 2004 3:42 PM

SUCCATASH


Quote:

Originally posted by Anjin:
I, for one, think that we are looking at the really deal here.

So, what's your prediction for Book's role in the movie?


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Wednesday, March 17, 2004 6:01 PM

ANJIN


Quote:

Originally posted by Succatash:
So, what's your prediction for Book's role in the movie?


Going on the assumption that Ron Glass is not in the movie and that the role is not being recast (based solely on the now infamous casting sheet), I would guess that Book will not appear in the film, having left the ship in the intervening time, and that Joss would give a passing nod to his absence for the fans, but not dwell on it to avoid alienating first-timers. At least that's how I'd write it.

I hope beyond heck that it is only a matter of time before we see Ron's name officially associated with the film. Each of the nine crew members brought a unique voice and view to the show. I'm sure the film can be supported by eight pillar. but anyone calling him or herself a Browncoat would be able to feel the wobble from where that ninth pillar is missing.

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