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JOIN UP HERE WITH THE MOBILE INFANTRY, TO REPEL THE TROLL SCURGE!

POSTED BY: JAMERON4EVA
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Friday, December 4, 2009 9:38 PM

JAMERON4EVA


Okay, i've been browsing Troll country, and wow, thm are some gorram wacked out people. So i say enough of this being nice to them crudd, and we should go in there and blasst there boards as much as we can. Seriously they have no honor, especially Riverlove, and that idiot KING, whatever the rest of his name is. You know the one who stole the CAPTION threads, yes him. Well they have started insulting us nice folk here, and i think it's high time we show them whatfore! So will you join me. I've already riled them up so they won't suspect a thing, unless they do, or have someone on this board. So what do you say?

"Mom, he has her chip. He has her."
John Connor,"Born To Run", TSCC EP 2x22

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Friday, December 4, 2009 10:30 PM

JAMERON4EVA


Dudes and duddets, you all missed it. From the time of about 12 am to 330 am i was OWNING the Trolls on all their old posts. They are probably really pissed right now. But hey, insult Firefly, that's what ya get.

"Mom, he has her chip. He has her."
John Connor,"Born To Run", TSCC EP 2x22

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Sunday, December 6, 2009 3:22 PM

KINGEICHOLZ


WHO ARE YOU CALLING AN IDIOT? YOU ARE THE BIGIST ONE ON HERE.

I AM NO FOOL.

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Sunday, December 6, 2009 3:33 PM

KHAMBILO


Oh boy, this is just asking for trouble...

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Sunday, December 6, 2009 5:47 PM

IREMISST


Save your energy jameron4eva, there are more important things to fight against, and for...

Besides, no word you or anyone else here could write would deter someone else's action, especially when the action is dishonorable, so it follows the person as a whole is probably dishonorable as well. That is something that would take much smarter people than you or I a VERY long time to correct...United fronts are fun and spiritually cleansing, but are hard to maintain and therefore doomed to fail, and so my recommendation is to COMPLETELY ignore the problem makers which is actually much harder that it sounds... Really, just pretend like Neo "There is no...... trolls" and Voila, a new reality is born! Unfortunately, there will always be wacked out people. Can't fix 'em, so just don't touch 'em!!!

However, I do somewhat commend your readiness to take action to right a wrong, at least you are willing to do something about it...

And I enjoyed the Starship Troopers reference. Just watched the 4th(?) and thought it was hi-larious!



Inara: I am grateful, you know, for the ill-conceived and high-handed attempt to defend my honor, even though I didn't want you to...



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Sunday, December 6, 2009 5:58 PM

BORIS


play nice. Trolls is folks too. They're warped and not always in a good way, they're tiresome little troggiemites alot of the time, but ultimately they are harmless little fellas so if you don't want to deal with them....then...don't.

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Monday, December 7, 2009 4:54 AM

XRAFTERMANX


In agreement just don't mind them at all.

Trolls are just guys with little tiny trolls in their pants, and because of that, they lack the confidence to go out in the world and find a girl. At least one that wont laugh when the little troll makes an appearance.

They come to forums and talk sideways just to fill the void that is left in their pants. It makes them feel good to get people to respond to their rantings because deep down they know that they will die a virgin or have to pay for it and pay extra so she wont laugh.

Perhaps, after years of doing this they will give up on women and embrace an alternative lifestyle and become a bottom.

Sad little trolls living their lives in the dark under a bridge. Their fuzzy hair, chubby belly and cheeks is all i can see when i find a troll post. Poor troll with a little troll in his pants... I pity you.

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Monday, December 7, 2009 7:56 AM

JAMERON4EVA


Quote:

Originally posted by xraftermanx:
In agreement just don't mind them at all.

Trolls are just guys with little tiny trolls in their pants, and because of that, they lack the confidence to go out in the world and find a girl. At least one that wont laugh when the little troll makes an appearance.

They come to forums and talk sideways just to fill the void that is left in their pants. It makes them feel good to get people to respond to their rantings because deep down they know that they will die a virgin or have to pay for it and pay extra so she wont laugh.

Perhaps, after years of doing this they will give up on women and embrace an alternative lifestyle and become a bottom.

Sad little trolls living their lives in the dark under a bridge. Their fuzzy hair, chubby belly and cheeks is all i can see when i find a troll post. Poor troll with a little troll in his pants... I pity you.



Ahh the future of Riverlove. I agree, be... unresponsive to them. Ignore the hell out of the bastards.

"Mom, he has her chip. He has her."
John Connor,"Born To Run", TSCC EP 2x22

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Monday, December 7, 2009 12:28 PM

KINGEICHOLZ


What you are saying is for Jack jameron4eva to ignore himself he's the troll but you don't have to ignore them just stand up to them like I stood up to TWO I put him in his place now you don't see him around anymore or the bully peacekeeper I put him in his place to.

PEACEKEEPER KEEPTING PEACE IN ALL THE VENCES

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Monday, December 7, 2009 12:31 PM

STORYMARK


Standing up to Trolls is what they WANT - they need someone to pay attention to them.

Ignoring is far better, as it deprives them of what they want.

Or, to put it another way:


"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Monday, December 7, 2009 1:37 PM

KINGEICHOLZ


Thats not what i ment you have to make a stand don't let anyone push you aound be a man!

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Monday, December 7, 2009 2:04 PM

CHAPTERANDVERSE




Storymark, I was pissed off enough about you posting such an ignorant and offensive slogan, but then I checked your profile and found out that you are a high school teacher. Wow.

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Tuesday, December 8, 2009 8:44 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by chapterandverse:


Storymark, I was pissed off enough about you posting such an ignorant and offensive slogan, but then I checked your profile and found out that you are a high school teacher. Wow.



I agree it could be taken as offensive. But I also felt that, crass as it may be, the point was valid.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, December 8, 2009 8:50 AM

CHAPTERANDVERSE


The point being that people who insult, denegrate, and generally make asses of themselves on the Internet are as "retarded" as a child with Down's Syndrome.
The picture used to illustrate this "joke" is of someone's brother or son.
This is not something that could be "taken as offensive." This is offensive. That is the only valid point here.

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Tuesday, December 8, 2009 8:55 AM

STORYMARK


Fair enough. But I don't agree. I'm of the opinion that nothing is off limits, in terms of comedy, under the right circumstances and context.

Point of fact, I'm not just a teacher - but a Special Ed teacher. And working within that context, I can tell you I'm far from the only one in the field to make an off-color comment.

I am not mocking those who have mental retardation. They have no control over this, and are deserving of no ridicule. People who have normally developed minds who then choose to engage in such a "retarded" manner, are very much deserving of such ridicule.

Which will not sway your opinion on the subject, I've no doubt. But it is the way it is. There's always someone to be offended at something, particularly when dealing with a hot-button issue.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, December 8, 2009 9:10 AM

CHAPTERANDVERSE


Oh My God, you are kidding me. You are a special ed teacher?

You have just confirmed all my worst fears. It is particularly enlightening to hear that other people you work with also have a tendency to make derogratory remarks about mentally handicapped children and adults. This is a frightening thought, not a justification.

How broadminded of you to note that handicapped people have "no control" over their condition. Since my sister has Down's Syndrome and has a far more informed outlook on life than you seem to have, I can only note that I am sure that she would overlook your particularly stupid actions and arguments because you clearly have no control over that either.

I, however, am not so forgiving.
You assert that you are not mocking handicapped people. I am clearly not as sophisticated as you because it seems to me that that is exactly what you are doing.

There is no circumstances or context for this "joke." It lacks wit, insight, and wry observation. Though the fact that you are criticizing "people who have normally developed minds who then choose to engage in such a "retarded" manner," and "are very much deserving of such ridicule" shows a lack of self-knowledge that is actually laughable.

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Tuesday, December 8, 2009 9:32 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by chapterandverse:
Oh My God, you are kidding me. You are a special ed teacher?

You have just confirmed all my worst fears. It is particularly enlightening to hear that other people you work with also have a tendency to make derogratory remarks about mentally handicapped children and adults. This is a frightening thought, not a justification.



Sorry I'm not PC enough for you. But again, my remark was not directed at anyone with actual disabilities. I explained this, if you have no desire to even consider another viewpoint for even a second, and instead stand by your knee-jerk reaction, that is your perogotive.

Quote:

How broadminded of you to note that handicapped people have "no control" over their condition. Since my sister has Down's Syndrome and has a far more informed outlook on life than you seem to have, I can only note that I am sure that she would overlook your particularly stupid actions and arguments because you clearly have no control over that either.


Now you're just ranting. Go for it, if it helps, but it doesn't really relate to me, sorry.

Quote:

I, however, am not so forgiving.


Okay. No skin off my back.

Quote:

You assert that you are not mocking handicapped people. I am clearly not as sophisticated as you because it seems to me that that is exactly what you are doing.


Your words, not mine.

Sorry I touched a nerve for you - but no language should be off limits. If I offended you, so be it, but you are misconstruing my intentions, and that's not my problem.

Quote:

There is no circumstances or context for this "joke." It lacks wit, insight, and wry observation. Though the fact that you are criticizing "people who have normally developed minds who then choose to engage in such a "retarded" manner," and "are very much deserving of such ridicule" shows a lack of self-knowledge that is actually laughable.



To you, perhaps. Again, not my issue. Go ahead an be furious over my lack of PC, or use of language in a way YOU don't approve of. Matters naught to me.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Tuesday, December 8, 2009 9:42 AM

CHAPTERANDVERSE


There comes a time in some arguments when you just have to step back and realise that the other person is never going to see your point of view. Clearly, we have reached this point. I think that I understand your argument perfectly but I do not find it valid.

A person's idea of political correctness often comes down to what they personally find offensive, usually because it attacks, undermines, or mocks someone that they care about.

Although I cannot see how your attitude would make it possible, I sincerely hope that you are a good and caring special ed teacher and treat those you look after with the dignity and grace that they deserve.



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Tuesday, December 8, 2009 9:55 AM

JAMERON4EVA


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Standing up to Trolls is what they WANT - they need someone to pay attention to them.

Ignoring is far better, as it deprives them of what they want.

Or, to put it another way:


"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."



And that is why Kingeicholic wants you to stand up to them, he wants people to post against other Trolls. And that is why HE wants you to post against him, he's a TROLL!!!!!!! A very idiotic one at that.

"Mom, he has her chip. He has her."
John Connor,"Born To Run", TSCC EP 2x22

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Tuesday, December 8, 2009 10:28 AM

JAMERON4EVA


Quote:

Originally posted by chapterandverse:
There comes a time in some arguments when you just have to step back and realise that the other person is never going to see your point of view. Clearly, we have reached this point. I think that I understand your argument perfectly but I do not find it valid.

A person's idea of political correctness often comes down to what they personally find offensive, usually because it attacks, undermines, or mocks someone that they care about.

Although I cannot see how your attitude would make it possible, I sincerely hope that you are a good and caring special ed teacher and treat those you look after with the dignity and grace that they deserve.





Yes i hopw he treats them like human beings, not inanimate objects that can be played around with like their toys. That is one thing that pisses me off about school, some of the dicks treat them like that. And i admit that i may have in the past joind in, just a little bit. But i stopped it, and kicked myself in the ass for it, hell i had to take ridalin from my second year in first grade to fifth grade.

Now on to the PC. Man you sound like an english teacher, talking about how jokes need to have a certain structure and all, just like an english teachetr would. For me a good joke has to be either really strict, or compleatly like JACKASS, FAIMLY GUY, SOUTH PARK, or somthing like that, idiotic. Now i cross the line with Hidi, and Spencer, those two are just plain jerks.

"Mom, he has her chip. He has her."
John Connor,"Born To Run", TSCC EP 2x22

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Wednesday, December 9, 2009 1:36 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by chapterandverse:
Oh My God, you are kidding me. You are a special ed teacher?

You have just confirmed all my worst fears. It is particularly enlightening to hear that other people you work with also have a tendency to make derogratory remarks about mentally handicapped children and adults. This is a frightening thought, not a justification.

How broadminded of you to note that handicapped people have "no control" over their condition. Since my sister has Down's Syndrome and has a far more informed outlook on life than you seem to have, I can only note that I am sure that she would overlook your particularly stupid actions and arguments because you clearly have no control over that either.

I, however, am not so forgiving.
You assert that you are not mocking handicapped people. I am clearly not as sophisticated as you because it seems to me that that is exactly what you are doing.

There is no circumstances or context for this "joke." It lacks wit, insight, and wry observation. Though the fact that you are criticizing "people who have normally developed minds who then choose to engage in such a "retarded" manner," and "are very much deserving of such ridicule" shows a lack of self-knowledge that is actually laughable.




Chap, let me ask you a question: Do you enjoy mocking the mentally unstable? Why else would you have that tagline under your username? "Dear Diary, today I was pompous and my sister was crazy"

You DO realize that there are people here who have been institutionalized, and some that are currently insane, suffer from psychotic delusions, and a few who are admittedly bipolar, right? So are you mocking them with your words?


Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Friday, December 11, 2009 9:05 AM

CHAPTERANDVERSE


Well, I figure anyone on a Firefly site will know that this is a Jayne quip about River, the most kick-ass character in the show, but if anyone thinks that I am mocking mental illness, then I sincerely apologise.
Pompous people can just suck it up.

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Friday, December 11, 2009 3:43 PM

BORIS


Storymark, As A special ED teacher I'm sure you understand that humour is a big part of managing for people with isms (so-called disabilities etc). But you must also have become aware of the general population's difficulty in understanding the need for humour and on occasion freedom of expression. I Find changing the terminology useful. E.g. Instead of saying retarded I sometimes use "intellectually undernourished" or socially devolved" etc. people like you and I know what retarded really means. but unfortunately it is a word that is so frequently misused that it has come to be stigmatised as an abusive and offensive term for the general population. I am not trying to annoy anyone by saying this, but as someone with a so called disabilty who frequently deals with said factor by effectively "taking the piss" (I.e. Humorising) I have learned to be creative to avoid the potential to offend.

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Saturday, December 12, 2009 1:01 PM

KINGEICHOLZ


re⋅tard  /rɪˈtɑrd, for 1–3, 5; ˈritɑrd for 4/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ri-tahrd, for 1–3, 5; ree-tahrd for 4] Show IPA
Use retard in a Sentence
See web results for retard
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–verb (used with object) 1. to make slow; delay the development or progress of (an action, process, etc.); hinder or impede.

–verb (used without object) 2. to be delayed.

–noun 3. a slowing down, diminution, or hindrance, as in a machine.
4. Slang: Disparaging. a. a mentally retarded person.
b. a person who is stupid, obtuse, or ineffective in some way: a hopeless social retard.

5. Automotive, Machinery. an adjustment made in the setting of the distributor of an internal-combustion engine so that the spark for ignition in each cylinder is generated later in the cycle.

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Saturday, December 12, 2009 1:05 PM

KINGEICHOLZ


: How do you get a retard to commit suicide?

A: Put a knife in his hand and ask him "Who's Special?"



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Saturday, December 12, 2009 9:25 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by chapterandverse:
Well, I figure anyone on a Firefly site will know that this is a Jayne quip about River, the most kick-ass character in the show, but if anyone thinks that I am mocking mental illness, then I sincerely apologise.
Pompous people can just suck it up.



Well, there ya go - It IS a commonly-known quip from a TV show.

Of course, that kind of takes the vinegar out of your anger at StoryMark, since his image is a widely-known image from the web. Been around for years. He didn't make it up.

I'm just pointing out that you're angry about somebody doing something that, when you do the exact same thing, you can't see why anyone would have a problem with.



Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Sunday, December 13, 2009 1:09 AM

CHAPTERANDVERSE


I was aware of the point you were trying to make, I just don't agree.

Calling River crazy and referring to a Down's Syndrome child as a retard doesn't seem in any way equilvilant. If you had a slogan featuring a "crazy scitzo bitch" and a picture of an real person with a mental illness undergoing shock therapy, that would be about the same. And it would be equally vulgar.

The "it has been floating around the Internet/he didn't make it" defense is irrelevant. Plenty of nasty things have been floating around the Internet for years, but if you post it in defense of your argument on a discussion board, you can and should be called on it if it is offensive.

i still have plenty of vinegar left, thanks.

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Sunday, December 13, 2009 5:12 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Well, knock yourself right out, but don't get testy when someone calls you on your hypocrisy.

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Sunday, December 13, 2009 8:22 AM

CHAPTERANDVERSE


My point was that I am not being hypocritical, as the two incidents have nothing in common.
Again, I don't think there is going to be any agreement here, so its best left as is.

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Sunday, December 13, 2009 8:59 AM

PEACEKEEPER

Keeping order in every verse


Quote:

Originally posted by KingEICHOLZ:
What you are saying is for Jack jameron4eva to ignore himself he's the troll but you don't have to ignore them just stand up to them like I stood up to TWO I put him in his place now you don't see him around anymore or the bully peacekeeper I put him in his place to.

PEACEKEEPER KEEPTING PEACE IN ALL THE VENCES

I'm sorry, are you referring to me?Firstly, I tend not to respond to your posts because you are a dickhead. Secondly, I am still very much around, I just tend to respond to other forums and threads that you haven't the intelligence to contribute to.And finally, you couldn't EVER put me in my place, coz it is way above you.Oh and did I mention that you are a dickhead?

Peacekeeper---keeping order in every verse!!!

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Sunday, December 13, 2009 11:53 AM

KINGEICHOLZ


I'M RUBBER AND YOUR GLUE ANYTHING YOU SAY BOUNCES OFF ME AND STICKS TO YOU.

SO THERE.

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Sunday, December 13, 2009 12:41 PM

PEACEKEEPER

Keeping order in every verse


Quote:

Originally posted by KingEICHOLZ:
I'M RUBBER AND YOUR GLUE ANYTHING YOU SAY BOUNCES OFF ME AND STICKS TO YOU.

SO THERE.

Yes you certainly are rubber and you fit nicely over the end of your own dick.

Peacekeeper---keeping order in every verse!!!

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Monday, December 14, 2009 1:08 PM

KINGEICHOLZ


Oh peacekeeper i bet you want me over yours don't you big boy.

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