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Adam Baldwin posts a blog about 9/11

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Saturday, September 12, 2009 4:56 AM

GILOVE2DANCE


Adam Baldwin posted a blog yesterday talking about the horror that happened on that tragic day in 2001.

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/abaldwin/2009/09/11/honoring-septemb
er-11th-we-will-prevail
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Saturday, September 12, 2009 6:19 AM

MSA


Very nicely said...go Adam

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It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Saturday, September 12, 2009 7:53 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Shiny, in a creepifyin way.

Too bad he's illiterate, retarded or his blog was written by his Zionist masters (Rhambo?) Or he's a Truther undercover, helping to fund Charlie sheen's support of Alex Jones' $500,000 TV studio.

As a career move in Kosher Hollywood, it's certainly the way to go. Except USA will cease to exist due to NWO's 9/11 Massacres.

4,000 First Responders have died from lung disease after being denied the right to wear dust masks at Ground Zero.


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Saturday, September 12, 2009 10:50 AM

MANGOLO


I'm saddened by anyone who quotes George W. Bush...unless they are trying to make a joke. Of course, I'm totally creeped out by people who quote Dick Cheney.



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Saturday, September 12, 2009 10:59 AM

PIRATENEWS

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Quote:

Originally posted by Mangolo:

I'm saddened by anyone who quotes George W. Bush...unless they are trying to make a joke. Of course, I'm totally creeped out by people who quote Dick Cheney.



GW's nickname for Dick Cheney was Tater. Git it?

Quote:

"We've never made the case, or argued the case that somehow Osama bin Laden was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming."
—Dick Cheney, "Interview of the Vice President by Tony Snow", March 29, 2006
www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/03/20060329-2.html

"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks.”
—Usama bin Laden, CNN, "Bin Laden says he wasn't behind attacks," September 17, 2001
youtube.com/watch?v=eL34buPJJxc
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/

"A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, no question about it."
—George Bush Jr
youtube.com/watch?v=A09Ha5M82us

"The FBI has issued a BOLO on suspected terrorists driving a white delivery van from New York City to the Mexican border. The suspects are using Israeli passports. They are armed and dangerous."
-Knox County TN Emergency 911 Dispatch, Sept 11, 2001, 11am EST
www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0622-05.htm



The first terrorist bombers arrested in USA on 9/11/2001 were Israeli Mossad says Fox News. There were over 500 of them, infiltrating US military bases and all police agencies. They were dressed as Muslims, "dancing in happiness" while watching and videotaping the World Trade Center explode. All were allowed to leave USA, and none were tortured to confess at Gitmo.
youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw
youtube.com/watch?v=JWpWc_suPWo
www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/fiveisraelis.html






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Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:08 AM

MANGOLO


What is more amazing is that when no Americans where allowed to fly in American airspace, many Saudis including those related to Bin Laden, were allowed to fly out of our country.

Never forget where the hijackers were from:

Mohamed Atta al Sayed (Egyptian)
Waleed al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian)
Wail al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian)
Abdulaziz al-Omari (Saudi Arabian)
Satam al-Suqami (Saudi Arabian)
Marwan al-Shehhi (from the United Arab Emirates),
Fayez Banihammad (from the United Arab Emirates)
Mohand al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian)
Hamza al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian)
Ahmed al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian)
Hani Hanjour (Saudi Arabian)
Khalid al-Mihdhar (Saudi Arabian)
Majed Moqed (Saudi Arabian)
Nawaf al-Hazmi (Saudi Arabian)
Salem al-Hazmi (Saudi Arabian)
Ziad Jarrah (Lebanese)
Ahmed al-Haznawi (Saudi Arabian)
Ahmed al-Nami (Saudi Arabian)
Saeed al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian).

Not a single Afghani among them. Not a single Iraqi. 'Nuf said.

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Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:34 AM

OUT2THEBLACK


Quote:

Originally posted by Mangolo:
What is more amazing is that when no Americans were allowed to fly in American airspace, many Saudis including those related to Bin Laden, were allowed to fly out of our country.




Even weirder is that many members of the Bin Laden family , resident within USA , were flown out via Govt.-chartered private jet flights...

And , Bill Clinton sent an airplane to Australia to retrieve Bush41 , G. Herbert Walker...

Subsequently , they both carried on a charade , and acted as if they didn't really know each other...

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Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:41 AM

PIZMOBEACH

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Ok, more amazing weirder? Big Brother is in Season ELEVEN... how many people have to be completely hypnotized or flat line stupid for that to happen? That is Television Terrorism.

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Saturday, September 12, 2009 6:55 PM

FREEBROWNCOAT


Have to say the comments above are well written then spoken by people that pay good money to haove other people think for them.

We Americans have long looked forward to see as many people as possible enjoy FREEDOM. Freedom of thought, action, occupation, education, belief. We are opposed by those that want control over those ideals and choices, to put all people under their thumbs, to have power for the sake of power. Enforced by terror and secret police.

We don't agree with some of the speakers but the words are true. Live your life with idealism, make it real. Exercise your freedom by giving it to others.

We do not send children out with explosive vests. We do not hide among civilians and use them as shields. We don't destroy schools that may teach other thoughts.

We build schools, hospitals, give people the vote and monitor that it's fair regardless of our own politics.

Are we perfect? We put our citizens in harm's way to uphold our ideals. We try hard to do the right thing. That is who we are. Not perfect.

9/11 DID NOT TAKE THAT FROM US.

We may not live, but who we are and what we stand for will live forever.

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Saturday, September 12, 2009 7:20 PM

RAYCHEETAH


Quote:

Originally posted by Freebrowncoat:
Have to say the comments above are well written then spoken by people that pay good money to haove other people think for them.

We Americans have long looked forward to see as many people as possible enjoy FREEDOM. Freedom of thought, action, occupation, education, belief. We are opposed by those that want control over those ideals and choices, to put all people under their thumbs, to have power for the sake of power. Enforced by terror and secret police.

We don't agree with some of the speakers but the words are true. Live your life with idealism, make it real. Exercise your freedom by giving it to others.

We do not send children out with explosive vests. We do not hide among civilians and use them as shields. We don't destroy schools that may teach other thoughts.

We build schools, hospitals, give people the vote and monitor that it's fair regardless of our own politics.

Are we perfect? We put our citizens in harm's way to uphold our ideals. We try hard to do the right thing. That is who we are. Not perfect.

9/11 DID NOT TAKE THAT FROM US.

We may not live, but who we are and what we stand for will live forever.



Amen!

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Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:12 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:


Too bad he's illiterate, retarded or his blog was written by his Zionist masters...



Come on, PN - you haven't let any of those things slow you down!

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Sunday, September 13, 2009 3:08 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Mangolo:
What is more amazing is that when no Americans where allowed to fly in American airspace, many Saudis including those related to Bin Laden, were allowed to fly out of our country.

Never forget where the hijackers were from:

Not a single Afghani among them. Not a single Iraqi. 'Nuf said.



No, not 'nuff said, as only a simpleton would ignore the fact that they trained in Afghanistan, had their base of operations there, weren't acting as agents for their country of origin, but were part of a cult which ignores bounds of nationality and instead wants to force us to convert, or die.

Is it a willful ignorance in place here, or are some folks really that dense ?

100% agree w/ Adam's remarks on the matter. They guy is dead on accurate.



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Sunday, September 13, 2009 8:42 AM

STOWEAWAY


Friendly Reminder:

This was a post about Adam Baldwin one of our BDH having something to say. Thus it was posted in the General Discussions section of the forum.
All the morbid & creepifyin discussion about the content should be carried out elsewhere.

For heavens sake's gentlemen! I'm enjoying a Sunday afternoon checking out my favorite Firefly blog to get away from all the political sniping & whining I hear every other day. I respectfully request that you be aware of where you post.

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Sunday, September 13, 2009 8:53 AM

MANGOLO


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Mangolo:
What is more amazing is that when no Americans where allowed to fly in American airspace, many Saudis including those related to Bin Laden, were allowed to fly out of our country.

Never forget where the hijackers were from:

Not a single Afghani among them. Not a single Iraqi. 'Nuf said.



No, not 'nuff said, as only a simpleton would ignore the fact that they trained in Afghanistan, had their base of operations there, weren't acting as agents for their country of origin, but were part of a cult which ignores bounds of nationality and instead wants to force us to convert, or die.

Is it a willful ignorance in place here, or are some folks really that dense ?





Why the personal insults? Are you a Saudi? If so, I totally understand and am sorry. I'm not saying all Saudis are bad, just the ones who funded this atrocity.

Al Quaeda operates in over a dozen countries actively and in 2003 Iraq was not one of them. I'm for finding the perps and the prudent thing would be to take out the fiscal structure that supported them (ie the Saudi money) We STILL haven't done that. We STILL haven't nailed Bin Laden.

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Sunday, September 13, 2009 9:01 AM

MANGOLO


Quote:

Originally posted by Raycheetah:
Quote:

Originally posted by Freebrowncoat:
Have to say the comments above are well written then spoken by people that pay good money to haove other people think for them.

We Americans have long looked forward to see as many people as possible enjoy FREEDOM. Freedom of thought, action, occupation, education, belief. We are opposed by those that want control over those ideals and choices, to put all people under their thumbs, to have power for the sake of power. Enforced by terror and secret police.

We don't agree with some of the speakers but the words are true. Live your life with idealism, make it real. Exercise your freedom by giving it to others.

We do not send children out with explosive vests. We do not hide among civilians and use them as shields. We don't destroy schools that may teach other thoughts.

We build schools, hospitals, give people the vote and monitor that it's fair regardless of our own politics.

Are we perfect? We put our citizens in harm's way to uphold our ideals. We try hard to do the right thing. That is who we are. Not perfect.

9/11 DID NOT TAKE THAT FROM US.

We may not live, but who we are and what we stand for will live forever.



Amen!



Double that Amen!

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Sunday, September 13, 2009 10:43 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I'm hesitant--is he a proponent of Bush Doctrine, or (gawd forbid) Bush himself?? What he writes is kind of disjointed to me, I'm having some trouble making it out...?

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Sunday, September 13, 2009 11:56 AM

DARKJESTER


Adam is rather famously a Conservative, in the better sense of the word of late - meaning he won't call you names or challenge your patriotism, intelligence and/or racial/ethnic heritage if you disagree with him (just like some Liberals have been doing as well). He supported Bush for the most part (if I remember his posts correctly) but isn't afraid to quote others like Obama when he thinks they're right; to me, a sign of a mature mind.

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Sunday, September 13, 2009 12:00 PM

RAYCHEETAH


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
I'm hesitant--is he a proponent of Bush Doctrine, or (gawd forbid) Bush himself?? What he writes is kind of disjointed to me, I'm having some trouble making it out...?

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Adam is apparently quite outspoken about his political opinions. It might take some searching, but there is supposedly a substantial archive of his older posts on the OB (he eventually stopped making personal posts there some years back):

http://forums.prospero.com/foxfirefly/start

Word of caution: Not everyone is gonna be pleased with Adam's politics. But that's the beauty of a free country: Diverse opinions and free discourse.

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Sunday, September 13, 2009 12:07 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
No, not 'nuff said, as only a simpleton would ignore the fact that they trained in Afghanistan, had their base of operations there, weren't acting as agents for their country of origin, but were part of a cult which ignores bounds of nationality and instead wants to force us to convert, or die.



Okay, so they "weren't acting as agents for their country of origin," huh? So (a) Why did Bin Laden only start targeting American interests when we put bases and personnel in Saudi Arabia (his "country of origin")? Also, you say they're acting as people who ignore the bounds of nationality, yet you insist that WE must pay strict attention to those bounds by attacking Afghanistan, where they trained. So THEY didn't care where they trained, but WE must, huh? Interesting the way your mind works. Or rather, the way it doesn't.

Quote:


Is it a willful ignorance in place here, or are some folks really that dense ?



Yes, there is a willful ignorance here. And yes, some folks really are that dense. In both cases, I'm speaking of course, of you. You've remained willfully ignorant for as long as I've been around here, and you've also remained just as dense. You haven't grown one iota in more than four years.


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Sunday, September 13, 2009 4:49 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Mangolo:

Why the personal insults? Are you a Saudi? If so, I totally understand and am sorry. I'm not saying all Saudis are bad, just the ones who funded this atrocity.

Al Quaeda operates in over a dozen countries actively and in 2003 Iraq was not one of them. I'm for finding the perps and the prudent thing would be to take out the fiscal structure that supported them (ie the Saudi money) We STILL haven't done that. We STILL haven't nailed Bin Laden.



What I find annoying is the lack of basic reasoning skills being put on display , and for what? Empty political affiliations ? To suggest that the AQ terrorists were agents of any one nation, or had any affinity to the Royal family or their nation of origin is about as rock stupid as can be. They're RELIGIOUS ZEALOTS! What part of that doesn't compute w/ you?

The headquarters of AQ were in Afghanistan. That's not even up for debate. Hell, Clinton targeted those very bases , back after the W.Africa Embassy bombings, about which it seems you've clearly forgotten.

No, we've not gotten Osama. Assuming there's anything left of him TO get, doesn't mean we've made no impact on the AQ network, their chain of command, their assets ( when the NY Times isn't outting our top secrets )



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Sunday, September 13, 2009 4:57 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

(a) Why did Bin Laden only start targeting American interests when we put bases and personnel in Saudi Arabia (his "country of origin")?


Not because of any national pride, that's for certain. It's ( allegedly) because Westerners were in Holy Islamic territory. Am I seriously having to explain this to you, 8 yrs after 9/11 ?

C'mon.

Usually, when folks make a list of discussion points, starting with ( a ) , there's a ( b ) and a ( c ) which follows. Guess you're working on your own unique style, though.

If the next point is ( b ) ...
Quote:

Also, you say they're acting as people who ignore the bounds of nationality, yet you insist that WE must pay strict attention to those bounds by attacking Afghanistan, where they trained. So THEY didn't care where they trained, but WE must, huh? Interesting the way your mind works. Or rather, the way it doesn't....


then here's your answer.

That's where the bases were. In Afghanistan. Under the jurisdiction/ control/ protection of the Taliban, remember them ?

What drugs or paint chips did you/ are you still ingesting ? I suggest you stop. Right now, before you do any more damage to your brain. It's clearly not hitting on all cylinders.



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Sunday, September 13, 2009 6:00 PM

MANGOLO


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:


That's where the bases were. In Afghanistan.




Hijackers- Where the did their training/met Al Qaeda:

Mohamed Atta - Hamburg, Germany 1999-2000
- Florida at Huffman Aviation 2000-2001

Waleed al-Shehri -Afghanistan 2000-2001
Wail al-Shehri - Afghanistan 2000-2001
(both trained by a Saudi named Abdul Quduz)

Abdulaziz al-Omari - Saudi Arabia -1996-2000
- Kuala Lumpur -2000-2001

Satam al-Suqami - Afghanistan - 1999-2000
(trained by a Libyan)

Marwan al-Shehhi - Hamburg, Germany 1999-2000
- Venice, Florida 2000-2001

Fayez Banihammad - never even visited Afghanistan- all training in the U.S. of A 2000-2001

Saeed al-Ghamdi - Afghanistan 2000
(trained by a Saudi named Abdul Quduz)

Mohand al-Shehri - never even visited Afghanistan-
-Chechnya 2000
-Vero Beach, Florida 2001

Hamza al-Ghamdi - never even visited Afghanistan-
-Chechnya 2000
-Vero Beach, Florida 2001

Ahmed Salah al-Ghamdi - never even visited Afghanistan-
-Chechnya 2000
-Lebanon 2001

Hani Hanjour - Arizona, 1998-1999
- San Diego 2000-2001

Most of the Saudis received their religious fanaticism and initial training in a rural part of Saudi Arabia then went to these other places. As you can see, Afghanistan is by no means the center of this very decentralized organization (Germany, Lebanon, Chechnya, etc) . ALL the trainers in Afghanistan were solely foreigners. ALL those bases were controlled by those trainers. Kuala Lumpur's (that's Malaysia) 2000 Al Qaeda Summit in might have been the most central crossroad to the hijackers and yet Malaysia is probably has the smallest population of fanatics.

Afghanistan is a very poor country with a large degree of lawlessness (even to this day). The Saudi money got these people whatever they wanted, where ever they wanted it, even when the training happened here.

And note- one of the earliest creeps to start training how to fly was Hani - never trained in Afghanistan- all his training and time spent in either the US or Saudi Arabia.




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Sunday, September 13, 2009 9:12 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


I expect my BDH to be smarter. And braver.

At Least 7 of the 9/11 Hijackers are Still Alive
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/hijackers.html

BBC NEWS: Hijack 'suspects' alive and well
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1559151.stm

Change: Obama Extends Bush 9/11 National Emergency
http://cryptogon.com/?p=10935

Quote:

THE WHITE HOUSE

Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release September 10, 2009

NOTICE
- – - – - – -
CONTINUATION OF THE NATIONAL EMERGENCY WITH RESPECT

TO CERTAIN TERRORIST ATTACKS

Consistent with section 202(d) of the National Emergencies Act, 50 U.S.C. 1622(d), I am continuing for 1 year the national emergency declared on September 14, 2001, in Proclamation 7463, with respect to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, and the continuing and immediate threat of further attacks on the United States.

Because the terrorist threat continues, the national emergency declared on September 14, 2001, and the powers and authorities adopted to deal with that emergency, must continue in effect beyond September 14, 2009. Therefore, I am continuing in effect for an additional year the national emergency the former President declared on September 14, 2001, with respect to the terrorist threat.

This notice shall be published in the Federal Register and transmitted to the Congress.

BARACK OBAMA

THE WHITE HOUSE,
September 10, 2009




Obama's Jewish Polish advisor Zbigniew Brezinski founded AllCIAduh, hanging out with USAma Bin Laden in Pakistan (Village Voice 1981 when CIA agent Barack Hussein Obama Soetoro was illegally in Pakistan)

Quote:

"Regret what? That secret operation (the CIA backing of Islamic Fundamentalist Terrorists) was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?"
-Zbigniew Brzezinski, Le Nouvel Observateur, Jan, 1998

"I've learned an immense amount from Dr. Brzezinski."
-Hussein Obama, 12 Sept 2007
youtube.com/watch?v=ASlETEx0T-I

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youtube.com/watch?v=NCO7Pr7RJ7s




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Sunday, September 13, 2009 11:39 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Most of the Saudis received their religious fanaticism and initial training in a rural part of Saudi Arabia then went to these other places. As you can see, Afghanistan is by no means the center of this very decentralized organization (Germany, Lebanon, Chechnya, etc) . ALL the trainers in Afghanistan were solely foreigners. ALL those bases were controlled by those trainers. Kuala Lumpur's (that's Malaysia) 2000 Al Qaeda Summit in might have been the most central crossroad to the hijackers and yet Malaysia is probably has the smallest population of fanatics.

Afghanistan is a very poor country with a large degree of lawlessness (even to this day). The Saudi money got these people whatever they wanted, where ever they wanted it, even when the training happened here.

And note- one of the earliest creeps to start training how to fly was Hani - never trained in Afghanistan- all his training and time spent in either the US or Saudi Arabia.



None of that in the least changes anything. Al Qaeda, which ran the operation , had its base in Afghanistan. A fact clearly known to even the Clinton White House. The 'training' , learning how to fly here in the U.S. obviously went on over here, under the guise of them simply wanting to learn how to fly ( but not LAND ) for recreational purposes. Nothing suspicious about that, right?

This is a pointless discussion.

And 'Mike' ? This goes for you as well. Leave RWED nonsense over there. I'm in 100% agreement w/ Adam Baldwin on this matter, and there's nothing else which needs to be said.





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Monday, September 14, 2009 12:43 AM

MANGOLO


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

None of that in the least changes anything. Al Qaeda, which ran the operation , had its base in Afghanistan.



Then why was Ayman al Zawahiri, Saif Saif al-Din al-Ansari al-Adel, Thirwat Saleh Shirhata all in Egypt in 2001

Abu Musab al Zarqawi in Jordan in 2001

Fazul Abdullah Mohammed in East Africa in 2001

You see 3/4 of the AQ leadership was not in Afghanistan nor had operated in Afghanistan - then again Al Qaeda is really a loose group of independent cells, so you must be talking solely about the part of Al Qaeda that emerged out of an international Muslim brigade we trained to oppose to the 1979 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan (PIRATENEWS alludes to above), but of course most of those folks were in Pakistan when 9/11 happened and fancy that's where our troops are finding them now.

Council on Foreign Relations:

"Where does al-Qaeda operate?

There is no single headquarters. From 1991 to 1996, al-Qaeda worked out of Pakistan along the Afghan border, or inside Pakistani cities. Al-Qaeda has autonomous underground cells in some 100 countries, including the United States. Law enforcement has broken up al-Qaeda cells in the United Kingdom, the United States, Italy, France, Spain, Germany, Albania, Uganda, and elsewhere."

You ever hear about UNOCAL?

I already wrote about the Saudi funding of Al Qaeda training and equipping.

Just follow the money- it is always the best way to figure the trail of cause and effect and to stop the cycle...if stopping it is the point.

'nuf said?

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About a shotgun wedding and a stain on my shirt" - Beck


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Monday, September 14, 2009 8:12 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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And 'Mike' ? This goes for you as well. Leave RWED nonsense over there. I'm in 100% agreement w/ Adam Baldwin on this matter, and there's nothing else which needs to be said.



So, since you agree with an actor, that's all there is to the discussion, huh? 'Nuf said, as you put it. And you don't want to discuss it because you got to have your say, and like a typical NeoCon asshole, you want to make damn sure no one else gets to disagree with you. How very cute.

By the way, I didn't post this here. If you'd like to ask Haken to move it to RWED, feel free. Of course, you're too much a coward to come back in there after the way you got your ass handed to you on a daily basis and ran away crying like the little baby you truly are.

Oh, and Joss favors gay marriage. Don't argue - that's all there is to it. 'Nuff said. Don't even bother responding, because he's spot on!

Mike

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Monday, September 14, 2009 8:25 AM

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Good for Joss. I'll not follow your lead and call him a Left wing fascist asshole. I'll leave that sort of stuff up to you.



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Monday, September 14, 2009 12:31 PM

KWICKO

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Good for Joss. I'll not follow your lead and call him a Left wing fascist asshole. I'll leave that sort of stuff up to you.



Ummm... Can you please show me where I called Joss a "Left wing fascist asshole"? That doesn't even make any sense!

Also, while you're at it, since I *THINK* you're implying that I said something like that about Adam, can you please point out for me where I called Adam an asshole? Please?

I'll wait. Remember, this is why you ran away from RWED - because you kept posting up your bullshit and getting called on it as the liar we all know you to be. So go dig up where I called either Joss or Adam an asshole.

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Monday, September 14, 2009 12:45 PM

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No, I never 'ran away' from RWED, it became Troll Country annex, thanks to folks like you, doing exactly what you're doing now. Wallow in the mud as you like, I'll sit this one out.

I fully agree w/ what Adam posted, and will comment on what the other BDH's have to say , or not, as I see fit.

Enjoy having the last word.



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Monday, September 14, 2009 1:16 PM

KWICKO

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No, I never 'ran away' from RWED, it became Troll Country annex, thanks to folks like you, doing exactly what you're doing now. Wallow in the mud as you like, I'll sit this one out.



Except that you won't. You've claimed you want no part of the "RWED" stuff, yet you can't seem to shut up when anything remotely RWED comes up elsewhere on the board. Like now. Nobody forced you to come in here with your usual BS, but you just couldn't resist - and now you want to shut everyone else up who disagrees.

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I fully agree w/ what Adam posted, and will comment on what the other BDH's have to say , or not, as I see fit.



Yet you don't want to allow others to DISAGREE with what he says and comment or not as THEY see fit. I find that odd.

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Enjoy having the last word.



For me to have the last word, you'd have to actually let me have it. Funny how that concept - like so many others - utterly escapes you.

By the way, nice dodge on the real question I asked: Where and when did I call either Joss OR Adam an asshole? You've lain the accusation; I'm calling you a liar.

Mike

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Monday, September 14, 2009 4:01 PM

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I have no 'usual B.S.'. I'm a firefly fan, and happen to agree w/ Adam Baldwin on the matter of of his blog. You seem to have some unhealthy obsession w/ wanting to fight w/ anyone who disagrees w/ you, even when you're shown to be wrong. Which is why I opted out of posting on RWED. Nothing of significance was being discussed there, just one moronic , hate filled volley after another. Just as you're attempting to do here, but I'm not leaving here. I love Firefly too much to allow that to happen. I'll never back down. Ever. So deal w/ it. Rethink your priorities.

I'm not going anywhere.

Go Joss. Go Adam. Go BDHs!!!



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Monday, September 14, 2009 5:16 PM

KWICKO

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You seem to have some unhealthy obsession w/ wanting to fight w/ anyone who disagrees w/ you, even when you're shown to be wrong.



And when did you ever show me to be wrong? Ever?

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Which is why I opted out of posting on RWED. Nothing of significance was being discussed there, just one moronic , hate filled volley after another. Just as you're attempting to do here, but I'm not leaving here. I love Firefly too much to allow that to happen. I'll never back down. Ever. So deal w/ it. Rethink your priorities.



So you won't back down, except that you did. You ran away like a spoiled little child when you didn't get your way.

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I'm not going anywhere.



Neither am I. Better figure out how to deal with it.


Mike

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Monday, September 14, 2009 5:33 PM

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There's nothing to deal w/ when it comes to you.





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Monday, September 14, 2009 6:25 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


And yet, you simply can't help yourself - you MUST respond to me. You can't NOT do it. For someone you think so little of, you seem to have a rather high opinion of me!

Mike

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Monday, September 14, 2009 10:59 PM

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Anybody know what work Adam was doing in Aug 2001?

I have not previously considered what role 9/11 had in the casting and work decisions of the cast and creators of such work as Firefly only a few months after the economic situations of post-9/11 America.

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