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Against Serenity 2

POSTED BY: KIMBER
UPDATED: Monday, August 10, 2009 22:56
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Monday, August 10, 2009 5:42 AM

KIMBER


Mediocre is certenly the word we were looking for when we wanted to describe Serenity.
Please Universal!!! publicly announce you will never EVER do a sequel of this pile of firefly dodo.

Sincerely!
People of the free world

Before you shoot me (politely) that is not my message. It's a message posted by someone in a voting which even 4 years past Serenity is still active and Serenity is still winning (I emphasize the w word), I posted this not to be discouraging but to be realistic. If people @ universal share the same opinion...I'm seeing black for a BDsequel =(

I just thought you should know *shrugs a little*



Kim

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Monday, August 10, 2009 5:48 AM

BYTEMITE


Quote:

Originally posted by KiMbEr:
Before you shoot me (politely) that is not my message. It's a message posted by someone in a voting which even 4 years past Serenity is still active and Serenity is still winning (I emphasize the w word), I posted this not to be discouraging but to be realistic. If people @ universal share the same opinion...I'm seeing black for a BDsequel =(

I just thought you should know *shrugs a little*



Kim



*Channels Wash* I'm confused...

Are you saying you think that Universal sees and agrees with people who think Serenity was bad? Despite the awards it received, despite the DVD sales?

Granted, ticket sales, not so good, but if the letter campaigns are anything to judge by, I think the response Universal has heard has been overwhelmingly positive.

Or are you saying it would be a bad thing to have a Serenity 2?

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Monday, August 10, 2009 5:52 AM

KIMBER


I'm sorry... forgot to post the link :S

http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/would-you-rather-universal-make-a
-third-riddick-film-or-serenity-2


Scroll down...last msg I think.

Kim

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Monday, August 10, 2009 5:56 AM

KIMBER


What? :S whoa! I think I've been misunderstood, one minute...don't forget that I consider myself a browncoat here, and a BDsequel would be fantastic. All I'm saying here is that despite all the good feedback and sales Firefly and Serenity got Universal isn't thinking about making a sequel, than maybe they share this person's opinion is all.

Kim

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Monday, August 10, 2009 6:17 AM

CONNOR


Like I said earlier:

While I didn't enjoy Serenity as much as Firefly, it was still a great film, and you can't immediately assume that if a sequel is made, it won't be even better. If Joss Whedon and the cast team up again for a second film, I know that it won't be absolute horseshit. It might just have some redeeming qualities, no?

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Monday, August 10, 2009 6:19 AM

RIPWASH


If anything, I think Universal should be e-mailed a link to that poll and then have the Browncoat Community start another letter-writing campaign.

Myself, I contacted Ropesofsilicon.com and they said the poll was just for their own curiosity, nothing official about it, but it would be a good notice to Universal that a sequel would do notably better than the original due to the increase in the fanbase over the last 4 years. I mean, heck. If Star Trek TMP could generate a sequel, certainly Serenity should! I mean, look at the percentages over at Rotten Tomatoes? Even critics, for the most part, enjoyed Serenity! What could possibly go wrong with a sequel if Joss and the BDH's were all in place? Especially if they kept the budget approximately equal to the first movie.

Answer: Nothing.

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Monday, August 10, 2009 6:30 AM

CONNOR


Quote:

Originally posted by RIPWash:
If anything, I think Universal should be e-mailed a link to that poll and then have the Browncoat Community start another letter-writing campaign.



Well, uh, I just did send them an email to that effect, but I'm not so sure I sent it to the right address. I used the form at http://www.universalstudios.com/contact_form.php

Here's the message in full:

Quote:

Hi,

I just wanted to send an email to say how much I appreciate all the entertainment your company gives my family and I every year. You release huge numbers of films every year and it's sometimes hard to keep up with so many releases.

That's possibly why I never had a chance to see Serenity until a few days ago, after I bought it on DVD from Amazon. I was already familiar with Firefly, the television show that Serenity was based on, and Serenity sure didn't disappoint me. Hell, if anything, it made me thirsty for more.

That's actually kind of why I'm sending this email. I'm a huge Firefly/Serenity fan and I wanted to tell you guys that just in case it helps you consider making a sequel. Lots of fans want one. Just check out the poll at this reputable website to see for yourself:

http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/would-you-rather-universal-make-a
-third-riddick-film-or-serenity-2


Keep making great films and TV!

Connor Beaton


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Monday, August 10, 2009 8:33 AM

FREEBROWNCOAT


Serenity 2 Please (91%, 4,568 Votes)
Another Chronicles of Riddick (7%, 365 Votes)
Forget both of them and give me Battlestar Galactica (2%, 90 Votes)
Total Voters: 5,023

The numbers pretty much belie the poster.

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Monday, August 10, 2009 9:00 AM

MANGOLO


We'd first have to get Joss on board with this, but there is a new movement in independent financing- swarm funding. I have no idea how many browncoats would buy a DVD before a sequel is made, but that's the basic premise. There could be all kinds of other options for higher involvement- tickets to the opening, signed copies of the DVD, other merchandise, playing an extra on the BDM2, meet and greet with the full cast, etc.

To be realistic we'd probably need at least a base of 500,000 pre-sold DVDs. Anybody got numbers on how many DVDs of the previous movie have been sold?


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Monday, August 10, 2009 9:10 AM

KIMBER


That was a very good idea =)But I have no idea how much dvds we must sell to get another movie but I guess we can ask... when I saw that comment I felt that we needed to shake some sense in universal, my opinion is that once they give us an official number of much we need to collect, it will be the browncoats' target. As Joss would say..."We've done the impossible and that makes us mighty."

It's what made me start this post in the first place.

91% people...it's quite a lot

Kim

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Monday, August 10, 2009 1:53 PM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.


Kimber, I'm not sure why you thought your original post made any sense. You quote one, and only one, comment at that site, and it just happens to be a negative one. What about the many positive comments above it, and the fact that 91% who have responded to the poll have asked for a Serenity sequel rather than another Riddick movie. That is what you should have been focusing on, not the lunatic who can't appreciate the awesomeness of Serenity.

Always accentuate the positive or else people around here will brand you a troll.




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Monday, August 10, 2009 3:04 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


I always thought that Serenity was an absolutely great jumping-off point for a feature film franchise, and every subsequent movie would boost DVD sales of the earlier ones, so each movie didn't HAVE TO make hundreds of millions of dollars at the box office on opening weekend, but instead would be a long-term investment that would end up being worth billions.

After all, how much do you suppose Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek rights were worth the day after the show was canceled? And what do you suppose they're worth today?

What Firefly and Serenity need is a studio or network that's looking for long-term growth and investment, rather than the short-term, instant-gratification kind of payoff that Hollywood is so desperate for.

Pity I don't see it happening any time soon. :(

Mike

Sweeping generalizations are always wrong!

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Monday, August 10, 2009 3:12 PM

CONNOR


In this economic situation, they're really looking for instant gratification. The box office numbers need to be good. Regardless, I think a potential sequel tp Serenity would do well at the box office. Apart from the much expanded fan base since Serenity's theatrical release, there also happens to be the matter of the cast becoming better known (yes, still mainly for television shows, but mainstream ones like Terminator and Castle; people will be more interested because of it)

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Monday, August 10, 2009 3:25 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


See, in this economic situation, I'd think people would be more interested in a SAFE economic bet and long-term investments, but it seems Hollywood is still looking for the ginormous blockbuster that hits the billion-dollar mark on opening day.

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Monday, August 10, 2009 8:01 PM

KIMBER


I chose that comment because I know that here we all appriciate the awesomeness of Serenity, we focus on the positive. The point I was trying to make was that something was wrong since there hasn't been any talk about sequels given the 91% and the rest and maybe we should also take a look of what is against us, not to be discouraging but to be realistic. You can't exclude the possibility of someone/some persons at universal sharing this opinion, because if that's the truth, we need to do something. That's all. We need to misbehave.

Kim

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Monday, August 10, 2009 10:56 PM

CONNOR


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
See, in this economic situation, I'd think people would be more interested in a SAFE economic bet and long-term investments, but it seems Hollywood is still looking for the ginormous blockbuster that hits the billion-dollar mark on opening day.



Uh yeah, that's pretty much exactly what I said in the post before yours.

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