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Imponderables: Leader Of The Pack

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Friday, July 17, 2009 11:23 AM

FREELANCERTEX


i like to read the book first. if i can't then i'll read it after, but I still like to read it regardless. makes me fell like an insider cuz most ppl don't read the books, so they don't know how it *reeally* started :P so much gets left out, it's like you're missing half the story.

a lot of times i don't like the way the book is translated to screen, though ><;;


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Saturday, July 18, 2009 4:19 PM

MSA


NVG here:

BUMP

Just for the sake of it being Saturday

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It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Saturday, July 18, 2009 5:56 PM

FREELANCERTEX


it is saturday..just barely.

here's a ponder: what do you do when you're hungry, but you don't know what you want to eat?


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Saturday, July 18, 2009 6:12 PM

BLACK12AKYTCA


You wait around a bit until you get hungry enough that you just grab the thing that first comes to mind. Or try and pinpoint what it is that you do want to eat, and find that or just make yourself eat something you have...

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Monday, July 20, 2009 4:32 AM

ZEEK


Ponder 1: I like to watch the movie without reading the book. Otherwise I'm more distracted by the differences than just enjoying the movie.

Ponder 2: If I don't know what I want to eat then I'm not really hungry.

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Monday, July 20, 2009 4:40 AM

FREELANCERTEX


aw hell the eating indecisiveness always hits me when my stomach's about to implode ><;;

knowing the differences between movie and book don't really detract fro mthe experience for me, unless the movie was REALLY bad and the book was awesome, then i get a little ticked at whoever made it :P


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Monday, July 20, 2009 6:29 AM

ZEEK


Well it's like iRobot. I hear the movie was no where near as good as the book, but since I didn't know that I just went along for the ride and thought it was pretty good.

With Lord of the Rings it bugged the heck out of me that we almost never see any real magic from Gandalf. I wanted to see him chucking lightning bolts and fireballs and junk. The best we get is him shooting a beam of light at the Nazgul. Laaaaaame. Where the heck was Tom Bombadil anyway? That guy always struck me as the last resort if Sauron returned because the ring's invisibility didn't work with him. Stuff like that detracts from a movie IMO. Did Lord of the Rings need magic or Tom Bombadil...not really but if I know they're missing then it seems broken.

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Monday, July 20, 2009 6:57 AM

FREELANCERTEX


I have to agree that i missed tom bombadil too XD he was so much fun i really wanted to see how he'd pan out on film.

but I mean, the Bourne series movies was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off kilter compared to the books, but the movies were still good. the books were good too, albeit completely different, but the way the books were it would've been near impossible to translate them accurately to the screen.

*off to bar for foodz*


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Monday, July 20, 2009 7:41 AM

ZEEK


Hmmm maybe I'd actually like the Bourne books. The movies were dumb IMO. I hate the shaky cam can't see what the heck is going on action sequences and the plot is ridiculous. "Hey you know that unkillable super spy? Let's mess with him for funzies. Oh noes he didn't like us messing with him! Kill him! Kill him!! Oh yeah unkillable. &^%#$!"

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Monday, July 20, 2009 9:33 AM

MSA


I definitely don't like shaky cam during action... it's so hard to see what's happening.

Can't really answer ponder 2 as, sadly, I am no longer in control of my eating choices.

EDIT- oh and joy of all joys the A/C is off and will stay off at work... so that'll be super fun





To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Monday, July 20, 2009 12:14 PM

FREELANCERTEX


oh noes...*fixes A/C at MsA's work pronto* I feel your pain, the A/C seems to work in every building on base.....except mine @_@ and none of the windows in our section open, so we're stuck with these tiny oscillating fans that don't do much unless you're standing right in front of them. it's great.


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Monday, July 20, 2009 12:31 PM

BLACK12AKYTCA


Eww -wince-

I love iRobot, never read the book, never read Lord of the Rings either but I thought the movie was fine.. hmm, maybe I should take zeek's philopsopy..

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Monday, July 20, 2009 12:50 PM

FREELANCERTEX


hey, everything merits reading once, no matter what :P least that's my philosophy


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Monday, July 20, 2009 2:49 PM

BLACK12AKYTCA


... Try reading Twilight and see where that philosophy gets you :P

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Monday, July 20, 2009 3:15 PM

MSA


Well you could read Twilight or just swipe a dim witted, overly emotional, slightly unstable 14 year old girls journal.. it's basically the same damn thing...

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Monday, July 20, 2009 3:32 PM

FREELANCERTEX


lol, well see, im on another forum and one of the threads is a 'what have you read?' type thread, where we recommend books n such, so i've read all the twilight books XD as i said, everything merits reading once, and when it comes to series, i hate starting a series and not finishing it, no matter what it is or how horrible it is. *shrugs*

but as i said, everything merits reading once, and yes, i have read some absolutely horrible books under that theory, but you never know if u don't read, do you? ^_^


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Monday, July 20, 2009 3:41 PM

BLACK12AKYTCA


Yeah, just throw in some vamps/weres and tweak them a bit..

You have to wonder how these ever got published, or how in the world it's become such a fad.. A dangerous fad, too, because every time some girl is going all gaga over Edward (which a couple of my classmates do, UGH >.<) my fingers itch for a weapon of some sort...

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 4:35 AM

ZEEK


lol my mom suggested Twilight to me a while back. Not that it inspired me to actually read them. I'm pretty sure she thinks "vampires? well he liked that buffy show...so same thing". She did the same with Harry Potter. Well you like Lord of the Rings and this has magic. Silly parents.

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 6:38 AM

MSA


But Harry Potter is better writtent hant Lord of the Rings ... so really you should read it:)

Yeah I love the parent generalizing... you like Sci Fi ( which means you must like anything with Sci Fi in it)




To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 7:04 AM

ZEEK


Eh you gotta give the classics some leeway on their writing. English was still in its infancy in J. R. R. Tolkein's time.

I got dragged to two Harry Potter movies I think and the thing I just don't like about them is magic can solve anything. What's the point of having a plot if you can just magic anything away? I think the first one I saw they just used time travel to save the day at the end. Time travel pssh.

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 7:37 AM

MSA


Ok that's like saying I watched the Eragon movie so the book must suck... the movies are about 1/10 of the book and Oh just read one of the books:)





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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 7:44 AM

BLACK12AKYTCA


See, what I dislike about everyone making a big deal of old 'classics' is that I don't think they consiter how rare books/writing were in those days- so of course back in those times they'd be hailed as 'great' simply because of the limited selection. Honestly, even though there a bunch that do deserve the title of 'classic', how many would survive the editing process of today (even if the language was all modernized)?

And yeah, same here on the Harry Potter thing. Entertaining (and the third movie happens to be my fav, because of the hippogryph ^.^), but totally wrong. The one thing that bugged me the most, I think, is that there is never any definition of a 'good spell-caster' and a 'bad' one- seems pretty hard to mess up saying a few words and waving your arm about....

Never seen Eragon, don't plan to (I honestly don't trust it to be anything near the original book, and I didn't even like it that much, so..)

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:00 AM

ZEEK


Is there time travel in the books or not? If there is then I call shenanigans on the whole series

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:08 AM

MSA


No time travel... there's teh time turner, but it's not used the way you see in the movie.
Just read it... LOL

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:45 AM

ZEEK

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:01 AM

MSA


yeah but it's not time travel per se it's one person" rewinding events" more a do over , which they don't really show or explain in the movie

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 1:32 PM

AVERYFINECOMPANION


Quote:

Originally posted by Black12Akytca:

The one thing that bugged me the most, I think, is that there is never any definition of a 'good spell-caster' and a 'bad' one- seems pretty hard to mess up saying a few words and waving your arm about....



Neville was always f'ing up spells....

and remember: Its LeviOOSA not LEVIosA!!



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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 2:11 PM

FREELANCERTEX


okay, too many posts to really catch up ><;; but I agree with MsA on the movies are generally 1/10 of the book thing, so you can't just say "wow, that sucked, the book must be horrible." sorry, no.

Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek: She did the same with Harry Potter. Well you like Lord of the Rings and this has magic. Silly parents.

i LOVE it when people do that @_@ *dies promptly*

and RF, i sympathize totally with the 'team edward' 'team jacob' thing. i don't think i'll ever understand it.


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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 2:40 PM

AVERYFINECOMPANION


I'm totally team Edward...

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 2:42 PM

BLACK12AKYTCA


Quote:

Originally posted by freelancertex:


and RF, i sympathize totally with the 'team edward' 'team jacob' thing. i don't think i'll ever understand it.



Ugh, yeah. Really makes me itch for a gun or knife of something to make them shut the fuck up already!

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 2:51 PM

AVERYFINECOMPANION


They were totally made for each other! Her moves reflect his and vice versa! She is his own personal heroin!! Even Rosalie warms up to her eventually, it may be for the wrong reasons but still!

Jacob just got way too clingy and desperate. Edward was way more tolerant then he was about their friendship too.

TEAM EDWARD 4 EVA!

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 3:12 PM

BLACK12AKYTCA


Oh, for the love of mike...

-fingers ITCH-

-can't hurt a fellow browncoat-

-must kill twilight fan-

-implodes-

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 3:13 PM

ZEROKIRYU


Quote:

Originally posted by Black12Akytca:
Oh, for the love of mike...

-fingers ITCH-

-can't hurt a fellow browncoat-

-must kill twilight fan-

-implodes-


Have you ever even tried reading it?

Oh no, the zombies killed god!

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 3:17 PM

AVERYFINECOMPANION


What he said.

I used to bash it too. Then I sat down and read it, and really like it.

How can you go wrong with emo whiny pretty vampires?

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 3:21 PM

FREELANCERTEX


now now, RF. it's ok. at least u wont have to worry about team jacob when breaking dawn finally comes out *looks off innocently into distance....*


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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 3:29 PM

AVERYFINECOMPANION


Quote:

Originally posted by freelancertex:
now now, RF. it's ok. at least u wont have to worry about team jacob when breaking dawn finally comes out *looks off innocently into distance....*



Closet fan for ftw!

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 3:30 PM

BLACK12AKYTCA


Well, I have actually read the things (yes, all four) because a friend made me (I got back at her though.. ), so I have every right to bash the damn series!

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Tuesday, July 21, 2009 6:55 PM

RHYIANAN


I don't think the twilight books are all that bad. They aren't great literature, but if you expect fluff written for angst-ridden teeny-boppers, then you'll do fine.

I found twilight before it got popular and greatly enjoyed it, but I think that if I found it with all the hype going on that I would have been disappointed, simply because of all the hype. The obsession that goes on with the series is completely insane...but then again some people would say the same about our love for a show that didn't even get a full season before getting canceled several years ago, so I'm not sure I'm qualified to criticize. Even so, the sheer number of people obsessed with the series is amazing. Forks, which is a real town, has been flooded with people visiting, wanting to see the sights that were in the book (and considering that the author never even visited the town before writing the books, it's amazing that there are any correlations at all), as well as viewing "Bella's house" and such. The town has actually appointed some of the houses as being the official homes of some of the characters, simply because the tourism is giving a lift to the local economy. There are local people that apparently have stories about their library card or something being stolen by what they term as "twilighters" simply because it's an actual item from Forks. Add in all the girls infatuated with the fictional characters, which IMO is an indicator of some sort of mental problem since they can't distinguish reality from fantasy, and you have a picture of ridiculousness. Without all of that, the books aren't too bad as long as you aren't looking for classic literature.

As for the person that liked the third movie of harry potter...there are no words that can describe how incredulous I am. You obviously didn't read the book because that movie was the worst of the lot. The only explanation that would adequately explain such total crap is that the script was written by somebody who read a synopsis of the book which was written by someone who read a synopsis of the book which was written by someone that read a synopsis of the book that was written by someone whose child read the book and told the parent about it.

...ending rant now


I'm a leaf on the wind

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Wednesday, July 22, 2009 4:50 AM

ZEEK


See this is why no one should read. Look at all the chaos it causes. Burn all the books!


So, the kitty was acting weird last night. Her blood work still isn't great. So, I'm still giving her fluids every other day. Last night was a fluids night. She seemed to do fine just like always but like 3 hours afterward she was shivering/shaking a little and was not herself. First I called the vet and they said they'd call back, like 3 minutes of waiting and I just called back and said "I'm bringing her in". The funny part is with all these vet visits I got a lab tech who knew Kaylee and was like "she really isn't herself is she?". She was hissing when people tried to pet her and normally she loves being petted. Unfortunately/fortunately they couldn't find anything wrong with her vitals and the vet said she wasn't showing any pain when he examined her. So, they just said to keep an eye on her and sent me home. Around 4am I woke up and she was back to normal...pounced right up on the bed and wanted to be petted. I obliged for a bit before going "ok back to sleep".

There's my way too long kitty story for the day.

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Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:15 AM

MSA


HUGS ok I love you dearly Avery but I was significantly less than impressed by Twilight. I read the first one because I adore my sis in law and she loved it. It wasn't the worst book I've ever read, but I just really didn't enjoy it. Sorry


Oh Zeek poor little Kaylee... I hope she's doing better today. Your vet bills must be epic. HUGS I'll be sending my best thougths for you. Hopefully it was just the fluids made her feel icky.


To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:41 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by MsA:
Oh Zeek poor little Kaylee... I hope she's doing better today. Your vet bills must be epic. HUGS I'll be sending my best thougths for you. Hopefully it was just the fluids made her feel icky.


She seemed like herself again this morning. So, that was good. This visit was only $30 which is nice for a 9pm vet visit. I was guessing it would be more like $75 minimum.

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Wednesday, July 22, 2009 9:23 AM

MSA


Wow you have a very reasonable vet. A 9pm visit would have cost me about $150....
Glad she's doing better HUGS

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, July 22, 2009 9:39 AM

ZEEK


They stay open 24 hours for emergency care. That's part of the reason I like that vet. Kaylee had a bad reaction to her first vaccination shot and she was running a fever. They pumped her up with fluids (seems to be the cure all) and broke the fever at 11pm and she was good as new.

It's a nice bonus for a time like last night cause they can just pull up her file and see that she's already on fluids and her kidneys infected before. The vet said he double and triple checked them but she didn't see to be in any pain. They get a gold star in my book.

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Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:01 AM

MSA


Oh they should be 5 star rated, reasonable, intelligent and very concerned with animal welfare and 24 hour... WOW

We need a new thread

NEW THREAD NEW THREAD NEW THREAD
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=2&t=39229

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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