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Imponderables: Leader Of The Pack

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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 4:57 AM

ZEEK


*Zeek sleepy*

OK not really a ponder just a quick question. Last night was poker night with friends. So, there's one girl from work who I pretty much only ever run into on the elevator. We tend to just make small talk for the 30 seconds or whatever and that's that. I don't recall talking to her much during the game. We ended up with enough people to have two tables and she was at the other one. Anyway when I was leaving I said bye to everyone and I was turned around and out of the room heading for the door and she calls me back to say, "I'll see you in the elevator sometime". Me *pause* "yeah we do seem to run into each other from time to time...see ya later". Is her line flirting? Cause that's all I can come up with. It seemed like an "I can't let him just leave without getting his attention" type of thing to me. Am I crazy or was that flirting?

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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 5:27 AM

MSA


Brick on standby....
Yes Zeek that was flirting. That was I am interested in you and have been trying to attract your attention for ages flirting... now the question is, what do you plan to do about it??

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 6:00 AM

ZEEK


hehe I left out details. It wasn't flirting. At least I hope not cause I went to her wedding and her husband was right there. Still as I was walking out I was thinking "if she was single I would have pegged that as flirting 100%". I think she was probably just being friendly and just ended up being awkward.


It is sort of funny that we both went to the same college and the same major a year apart and didn't know each other at all in school and ended up meeting down in TX. Though I'm better friends with her husband who also went to Purdue. Mainly cause he plays poker with us more often than she does.

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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 6:15 AM

MSA


Or she's work flirting with you.. just 'cause you're happily married doesn't mean you don't harmless flirt to have fun( and feel cute)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 6:34 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by MsA:
Or she's work flirting with you.. just 'cause you're happily married doesn't mean you don't harmless flirt to have fun( and feel cute)


Ah I guess I can see that. Usually when I'm just play flirting it's with my single female friends that I'm close enough with where we know it's just playing around. I've never flirted with a married woman before. I think I'd feel weird doing that.

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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 10:05 AM

MSA


It's not real flirting it's more a fun banter ... it is kinda of flirting because of the banter, but since everyone involved knows it means nothing and isn't going anywhere it's just for fun:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, July 8, 2009 1:16 PM

AVERYFINECOMPANION


Work flirting is fun. I myself used to be a work wife. I guess that happens waaaaay more then people think.

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Thursday, July 9, 2009 7:00 AM

MSA


I now work with all women...but I like them a lot

HUGS Avery so how are you doing??

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Thursday, July 9, 2009 8:57 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by MsA:
I now work with all women


I fully condone any work flirting you choose to engage in.

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Thursday, July 9, 2009 12:17 PM

BLACK12AKYTCA


-snerk- XD


Stan- Mobbex is playing lunch and Aky is making a guitar

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Friday, July 10, 2009 5:05 AM

MSA


LOL Zero sweety:)

Morning all

OK ponder what is the best present you've ever gotten?

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Friday, July 10, 2009 8:18 AM

ZEEK


Easy Pre-screening with Nathan and Ron. Thanks Universal!!!

That was divine intervention btw. By the time I found out about them the screening in Austin was sold out but I still setup URLy to refresh the page on fandango every minute looking for changes. The thing went off and sure enough the buy option was there again. I quickly bought two tickets and then thought maybe I should get more for other friends and sure enough it was sold out again never to return. I went to the theater to pick up my ticket the minute I got off work in case it was a glitch that they were going to try to correct later.

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Friday, July 10, 2009 9:33 AM

BLACK12AKYTCA


I would have to say it was one of the myriad shopping trips the rents let me have with Dani (it's kind of a tradition to give me shopping trips as presents, since I'm not good at thinking up prezzies for others to give me..)


Stan- Mobbex is playing lunch and Aky is making a guitar

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Friday, July 10, 2009 9:56 AM

BRIGLAD


I would have to say it was just before last Christmas when Rose got the results back from her MRI and we found out that 99% of her cancer had been taken care of by Chemo.

Second best was two months ago when she got a clean bill of health.


B


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Friday, July 10, 2009 12:02 PM

FREELANCERTEX


that's a pretty awesome double present right there. don't think i can top that.

my best present was my boyfriend coming to visit me in tech school when i really needed him most. i was about twelve seconds away from quitting, and seeing him after almost four months gave me enough of a tether to push through. :)


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Friday, July 10, 2009 1:42 PM

MSA


Zeek my seething jealousy nknows no bounds...

Briglad that is sweet!!

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Saturday, July 11, 2009 6:02 AM

MSA


Bumpin for the day



To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Saturday, July 11, 2009 6:41 AM

FREELANCERTEX


Here's a rather brooding ponder: at what point do you say enough is enough in a relationship? (I'm not talking abuse or anything, 'cause those relationships should be ended immediately without any need for debate) I'm talking about where one or both members have had enough of each other, and their behavior is getting in the way of a decent relationship with other members of the family. should it even end? or should they just push through it even though they seem to constantly make each other unhappy around others?


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Saturday, July 11, 2009 2:52 PM

MSA


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
Easy Pre-screening with Nathan and Ron. Thanks Universal!!!

That was divine intervention btw. By the time I found out about them the screening in Austin was sold out but I still setup URLy to refresh the page on fandango every minute looking for changes. The thing went off and sure enough the buy option was there again. I quickly bought two tickets and then thought maybe I should get more for other friends and sure enough it was sold out again never to return. I went to the theater to pick up my ticket the minute I got off work in case it was a glitch that they were going to try to correct later.



NVG here:

Zeek sucks. Not really but kinda a lot.

*end message*

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Saturday, July 11, 2009 4:28 PM

BLACK12AKYTCA


@tex- Probably when both of you realize that you've both 'had enough with each other'..

you know, I would totally do this-
http://www.brokenplotdevice.com/2008/09/15/coffee-cover-up/
.... and this!
http://www.collectedcurios.com/sequentialart.php?s=381
Both are awesome webcomics, and I would higly recommend reading both of them ^.^

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Saturday, July 11, 2009 5:00 PM

BORIS


From years of experience, kids are only "bastards" when they are raised wrong or if they have "isms" etc. And even then alot of the time the behaviour can be redirected. I think raising kids should mainly be done by parents who would ideally be strongly supported by family, friends and community networks.

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Saturday, July 11, 2009 7:45 PM

FREELANCERTEX


Quote:

Originally posted by Black12Akytca: Probably when both of you realize that you've both 'had enough with each other'..

apparently not, because 34 years of marriage later.... the "I've had enough" comments started..i don't know when, probably a year or so ago, the petty arguing and hurting of each other's feelings never seems to stop, especially when other people are around, and when one of the members of the relationship actually dreads the other coming back to the house from, say, nextdoor? I'm like "um....that's a bad sign, isn't it?"

each person is completely fine on their own, as soon as they get in a room together, it's like an automatic explosion.

..where'd the bastards comment stem from, boris? i think i lost part of a convo again ><;;


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Sunday, July 12, 2009 8:15 AM

BLACK12AKYTCA


o.O Perhaps a divorce is in order for them, then..? Or maybe they really need therapy, or an extended vacation away from each other?

you know, I would totally do this-
http://www.brokenplotdevice.com/2008/09/15/coffee-cover-up/
.... and this!
http://www.collectedcurios.com/sequentialart.php?s=381
Both are awesome webcomics, and I would higly recommend reading both of them ^.^

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Monday, July 13, 2009 5:11 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by MsA:
NVG here:

Zeek sucks. Not really but kinda a lot.

*end message*


Seriously the energy in that theater was insane. There were a number of people crying at the end even. It was crazy and I don't think I'll ever forget it.

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Monday, July 13, 2009 6:17 AM

MSA


You're just mean... mean I say

HUGS Zeek

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
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It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Monday, July 13, 2009 10:11 AM

FREELANCERTEX


RF: i'd vote therapy, except one of the parties involved doesn't think they have a problem, and they definitely do (the whole admission thing just doesn't happen). divorce might seem extreme to some, but considering, i really think they both might be happier. maybe a little lonely, but happier without the constant arguing...at least one of them would be ><;;

zeek: why were ppl crying?


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Monday, July 13, 2009 10:17 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by freelancertex:
RF: i'd vote therapy, except one of the parties involved doesn't think they have a problem, and they definitely do (the whole admission thing just doesn't happen). divorce might seem extreme to some, but considering, i really think they both might be happier. maybe a little lonely, but happier without the constant arguing...at least one of them would be ><;;

zeek: why were ppl crying?


Divorce can get very ugly. I vote the counseling route first. There was love there at some point. Maybe a professional can find out what happened to it and find a way to revive it.

My cousin is going through the process of getting a divorce and the stories I'm getting relayed through my mom just make me cringe. Of course it's all one sided in favor of my cousin, but it sounds like they're really mad at each other. The things that drive me nuts are the parts where they're trying to hurt each other and end up hurting their kids in the process. Like allegedly keeping things the kid wants at one house or the other just so the kid won't be happy when he's with the other parent.

I'm sure not all divorces get so ugly but the potential alone is frightening to me.

And the crying was for Wash I think. I didn't talk to the people who were crying I just made fun of them later.

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Monday, July 13, 2009 12:23 PM

FREELANCERTEX


counselling is hard when person A thinks everything is person B's fault, and person B thinks everything is person A's fault because person B has had enough of person A's bullshit, rightfully so, and person A insists that person A has no problems at all--because everything is the other person's fault. they can't talk things out anymore, at all. i think only one of them would ever consent to trying that, honestly, so it kind of gets stuck.

*sigh* counselling might work, but i'm afraid they'd just revert after a while. their attitudes can turn on a dime. they're not bad people, and they're not always miserable, but they seem miserable more often than not.


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Monday, July 13, 2009 3:18 PM

BLACK12AKYTCA


Ouch.. this really does seem like a bad situation. I don't have any other ideas, other than the counseling/divorce..

you know, I would totally do this-
http://www.brokenplotdevice.com/2008/09/15/coffee-cover-up/
.... and this!
http://www.collectedcurios.com/sequentialart.php?s=381
Both are awesome webcomics, and I would higly recommend reading both of them ^.^

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Monday, July 13, 2009 3:31 PM

FREELANCERTEX


lol. the funny thing is they'd flip if they knew i was writing this about them, then follow with "YOU'RE MAKING IT SEEM LIKE WE FIGHT ALL THE TIME!!" to which i'd haaave to respond, "well....you kind of do (at least when i'm around)." but yeah, seriously, i wish i had a way to record/tape their explosice instances so i could show them "this is what people see. maybe its not true, but it sure as hell seems it."

*lights up bat signal to fix problem*

[/ponder] yuck, that was some bad juju to unload ><;;

ponder: what does it mean when people from your mother's work ask you if 'theres any new developments i should know about?' i know it's kind of a rhetorical question, but..I'M TWENTY!! AND STILL IN COLLEGE!! WTF??


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Monday, July 13, 2009 4:11 PM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


Quote:

Originally posted by freelancertex:
counselling is hard when person A thinks everything is person B's fault, and person B thinks everything is person A's fault because person B has had enough of person A's bullshit, rightfully so, and person A insists that person A has no problems at all--because everything is the other person's fault. they can't talk things out anymore, at all. i think only one of them would ever consent to trying that, honestly, so it kind of gets stuck.

*sigh* counselling might work, but i'm afraid they'd just revert after a while. their attitudes can turn on a dime. they're not bad people, and they're not always miserable, but they seem miserable more often than not.



Hey Freelancertex... I feel your pain, and forgive me coming into the middle of this thread with little understanding of the background, but it is these very situations that councelling can have the greatest impact in. I have been stuck in a bad place and even during the councelling sessions I have thought I was not being challenged or given tools to get through things, but later stuff clicked into place because the questions a good coucillor asks keep you assessing your situation! I would also say that I have seen this work when someone is convinced they are in no way to blame for a relationships breaking down, when it is almost always both parties who are 'stuck' in a cycle of some sort or another!

{{{hugs}}} I hope it gets resolved in a good way!


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Monday, July 13, 2009 4:23 PM

FREELANCERTEX


does it work with uber stubborn people who KNOW they're aaaalways right, write everything off in order to give the impression that they don't give an eff what the other person thinks or how others see them, and who would probably think counselling is the one sure-fire fail in the world? :P

thanks for the input magda, really. i just wish i could talk to them about it and get them to *listen* *hugs back*


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Monday, July 13, 2009 5:47 PM

MSA


Depends on the person and how motivated they are to make things work..'cause it is work.

Zeek I hate those situations... those parents should be smacked senseless. Not a huge fan of Demi Moore but I have to say she and Bruce willis handled their divorce with absolute class and minimal impact on those kids. They live nearby each other and always have. Every holiday, birthday, special event they ( the adults) suck it up and spend the holiday all together so the kids don't have to chose between one parent or another. They may not have been able to resolve their differences, but they made damn sure their feelings didn't spill onto their kids. That's a good parent

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:10 AM

ZEEK


I agree MsA. I just hate seeing parents who get so distracted that they don't even realize what they're doing to their kids.


OK I have a totally off topic potentially insensitive question. NVG is native american right? My question is about facial hair. How come I never see any native american's with facial hair? Is it part of a belief system or just a generally accepted fashion sense or am I just missing something?

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Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:49 AM

MSA


You're missing that most natives just don't have a lot of facial hair.. it just doesn't grow in the same volume. NV can go months without shaving.

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:56 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by MsA:
You're missing that most natives just don't have a lot of facial hair.. it just doesn't grow in the same volume. NV can go months without shaving.


*jealous* shaving is so annoying. Not shaving is annoying too though. It's a catch 22. Either prickly stuff all over or constant shaving.

I don't even remember what made me wonder about this but I was just like wait a minute. I guess that makes sense though.

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Tuesday, July 14, 2009 1:59 PM

FREELANCERTEX


lol, what a topic change XD

my issue with my boyfriend's shaving habits is he doesn't like shaving (his face breaks out :\), but i hate his facial hair cuz its like sandpaper. so it's like, what do u do in that situation? ><;;

i have zero ponders of my own right now.


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Tuesday, July 14, 2009 4:08 PM

MSA


Zeek sweety... learn to wax:) It'll rip all the hair off quickly and take longer to grow back in....

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4:35 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by MsA:
Zeek sweety... learn to wax:) It'll rip all the hair off quickly and take longer to grow back in....


That sounds so painful. No way I'm trying that.

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Wednesday, July 15, 2009 5:17 AM

MSA


Oh don't be such a baby... women wax all manner of body parts all the time.. no big deal:)

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, July 15, 2009 5:30 AM

ZEEK


That's why I'm being manly and not waxing anything. It's a dirty job but somebody's gotta do it.

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Wednesday, July 15, 2009 6:20 AM

MSA


Well you could go with laser hair removal:)
Or Nair.. but there might be some requirement to wear short shorts:)


To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:11 PM

MSA


NVG here:

Nair, short shorts, smooth legs...

... been there, done that.

Just got back from Harry Potter. Not bad at all.

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:23 AM

WAKEUPSOON


I saw it yesterday, && I thought it was the best film of the series yet.

~WuS
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Smile && Nod, it makes it seem like you know what's going on.

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Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:44 AM

MSA


Definitely... except

Select to view spoiler:


I didn't like that Dumbledroe said Horcruxes could be any old thing when the book makes it very clear they are special objects and tied to Hogwarts founders..that was annoying


I did totally love it though and may I say Tom Felton ROCKED!!!!! he gave such an amazing performance.

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:47 AM

WAKEUPSOON


He's a really good actor, and he's kinda hott. Woot .. win/win (Y) That bit annoyed me too, but not too much as I tend to go into adaptation movies completely ignoring whatever media it was originally based on - that way your only disappointed if the film itself is actually horrible.

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Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:11 AM

RHYIANAN


Quote:

Originally posted by MsA:
Definitely... except

Select to view spoiler:


I didn't like that Dumbledroe said Horcruxes could be any old thing when the book makes it very clear they are special objects and tied to Hogwarts founders..that was annoying






Well, Actually...

Select to view spoiler:


Dumbledore is right. The horcruxes could be any old thing, it's just that Voldemort decided to used the special objects tied to the founders. He could have easily decided to use things that were not as special, but only did so because it tickled him to defile the objects.



Having said that, I'm basing it off of the books because I have given up on the movies...they end up slaughtering the books way too much.


I'm a leaf on the wind

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Friday, July 17, 2009 5:09 AM

MSA


Try 6 it actually only added in one event and subtracted some but kept really true to the spirit of the book:)

OK theres a good ponder.... do you prefer to have read the book a movie is based on before you see the movie??

I do, but I like to know the end before I begin

To love someone is to see a miracle invisible to others.
--Francois Mauriac
It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

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Friday, July 17, 2009 9:38 AM

BLACK12AKYTCA


I would rather read the book first, so I can see what the movie messed up on (because I would rather have the book establish itself as the 'right' one in my mind than to have the movie do so...)

you know, I would totally do this-
http://www.brokenplotdevice.com/2008/09/15/coffee-cover-up/
.... and this!
http://www.collectedcurios.com/sequentialart.php?s=381
Both are awesome webcomics, and I would higly recommend reading both of them ^.^

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Friday, July 17, 2009 10:28 AM

RHYIANAN


It depends on what it is. I usually try to read the book first, but sometimes it just doesn't happen because the book doesn't capture my interest the way the movie does. There's several books that I've tried to read, but can't get into until I see the movie and have some idea about what is coming.



I'm a leaf on the wind

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