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Imponderables: Yay for summer!

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Sunday, July 27, 2008 12:30 PM

FREELANCERTEX


OMG YAY!!!!!!! HAVE FUN!! TELL THEM CONGRATS!!!! that's so cool ^_^


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Monday, July 28, 2008 5:43 AM

ZEEK


Holy crap that sounds like quite an ordeal MsB. I didn't know that hair dye can make your hair fall out. Eeep!

So, if you guys remember me pondering over whether to start an email back and forth with some chick who lives pretty far away but I'd totally fall for if I got the chance. Yeah that was like a month ago. I ended up replying to the email then nothing. Out of the blue today finally a reply. Can't decide whether I should be like eff you woman! or not. Some excuse about a "survey" at work. Whatever that means. This type of crap is the reason I didn't want to have an email communication thing in the first place. grrr

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Monday, July 28, 2008 8:03 AM

MSB


OK Zeek how much do you like her? IF you like her a lot then keep the email going. IF not, just a quick glad you're having fun kind of email will do:)

FLT- yup it was awesome. We all went out to dinner and then we're walking back to the car and we get to the wedding chapel and he says " want to get married now" and at first she's just rolling her eyes but then she realizes he means it and he says " why do you think all these people ( us, her parents, and his family) are here?? She totally had no idea. I swear I thought she was gonna pass out...it was so cute and a sweet wedding:)

Mmm nothing like having your birthday off to sit home:) NV took the day off too so we'd have an extra long weekend...so far it's been incredible:)

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Monday, July 28, 2008 8:07 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


Quote:

Originally posted by MSB:
Mmm nothing like having your birthday off to sit home:) NV took the day off too so we'd have an extra long weekend...so far it's been incredible:)



Nobody likes a show off.

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

"Yes-- Cheney are Bush are men of peace-- this we know. It is terrible that their good deeds are being thwarted, misinterpreted-- so much so that they are forced to direct others to torture prisoners." Professor Michael Levine







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Monday, July 28, 2008 8:21 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by MSB:
OK Zeek how much do you like her? IF you like her a lot then keep the email going. IF not, just a quick glad you're having fun kind of email will do:)


Don't know her well enough to say I like her a lot. Every time she's in town she's impressive but I went with the "glad you're having fun" kind of email already. I don't need to be sitting around waiting for a reply once a month.

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Monday, July 28, 2008 8:28 AM

MSB


Then don't sit around. Just consider her a once in a while surprise ( like random cheesecake)

HUGS FMF you want bragging??? Well I got amazing presents from NV and he's busily cleaning while I rest on the couch. Plus he gave me a fab massage this morning See now that's bragging:)

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Monday, July 28, 2008 10:54 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


no one likes a smartass either

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

"Yes-- Cheney are Bush are men of peace-- this we know. It is terrible that their good deeds are being thwarted, misinterpreted-- so much so that they are forced to direct others to torture prisoners." Professor Michael Levine







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Monday, July 28, 2008 11:07 AM

MSB


HUGS FMF...ROTFLMAO right now..I do so love you!

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Monday, July 28, 2008 11:37 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
no one likes a smartass either


Hey! My mom thinks I'm cool!

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Monday, July 28, 2008 12:02 PM

FREELANCERTEX


HAPPY BIRTHDAY MSB!!!!! that's awesome about the wedding ^_^ men do have their moments

zeek: she's your mother, she's SUPPOSED to like you *cringes and runs away* Sorry! i had to!!!! JK!!


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Monday, July 28, 2008 7:18 PM

MSB


HUGS Thanks FLT..it's also Zero's birthday as he's my separated at birth significantly younger twin

FMF is my sexier, older, but much hotter and all twin




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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 4:57 AM

MSB


Bumpin for the morning:)

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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:24 AM

ZEEK


Morning. I want to retire. Anybody want to finance my existence? I'll send you a letter each year with a picture of the me that you're supporting. That way you can feel all good about yourself. Any takers?

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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:38 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Good morning folks.

I would just like to say that after seeing The Dark Knight I was left with a bit of an underlying bit of foreboding. I really enjoyed the flick, but was left with something strangely fmiliar that I hate to feel.

But I would like to say without spoiling too much that at least he didn't play bitch like the S-man and his belief in just himself.

Oh, and less than a month 'til Dragon*Con. Wow. Time flies when you're having fun.

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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:54 AM

ZEEK


Head over to the Dark Knight thread and spoil away.

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=8&t=34312

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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:36 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Nah, visited and erased my post before posting it. I'm sure to piss someone off and start a RWED type of "discussion" that I just don't have the energy to respond to. I would just like to say that I enjoyed the emotional bullet train and took some of the material to heart. I would also like to again pimp Frank Millers The Dark Knight Returns as the flick opened the door to the future Gotham Miller created. I feel that some people have read too far into things especially the race issue. I'm more reluctant to watch a Bruckheimer flick due to just that; his shotty portrayal of people who aren't white (and even some who are). For me, The Dark Knight was more a movie about real people dealing with extraordianry situations (another reason why many people hate Shamylan films). Heaven forbid we show real people in the movies.

But on the otherside I can really empathise with folks who suffer from severe adult ADD. With my head twisting and turning so much, with being on edge the whole time, and after being tense through the whole movie I was spent after sitting the two and a half hours.

Gosh. Still fragmented.

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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:24 AM

MSB


Ahhh welcome to my world

HUGS Zeek...so how goes the email situation?

I must say I did like the focus in the movie on the idea that everyone has limits to what they can survive emotionally and that breeching those limits has horrific consequences

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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:55 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by MSB:
HUGS Zeek...so how goes the email situation?

I must say I did like the focus in the movie on the idea that everyone has limits to what they can survive emotionally and that breeching those limits has horrific consequences


No email. Don't really expect any now though. I didn't really ask any questions that needed answering or anything. So, it was more or less a reply that answered the previous email and just stopped there.

Yep that's what I liked about Dark Knight too. That idea for the plot was cool and it more or less worked. It's just how they got there that I didn't really buy all the time.

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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:20 AM

MSB


HUGS Zeek... I think I'll need to see it a few more times to really take it all in :)

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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:34 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by MSB:
HUGS Zeek... I think I'll need to see it a few more times to really take it all in :)


See to me it's a movie I don't really need to see again. I get the main plot behind it. I don't think there is enough cool dialog or funny jokes or cool special effects that I'd want to see again. With something like Ironman I was laughing and enjoying the special effects and the hottness of Pepper Potts. Nothing like that to the Dark Knight IMO.

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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:11 AM

MSB


I will agree the Iron Man's humor was much better than Dark Knight's... I laughed my head off watching Iron Man

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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:23 AM

KELKHIL


I don't think you were supposed to be laughing much through the movie though. Was a rather "Dark" rendition of the comics.



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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:33 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by Kelkhil:
I don't think you were supposed to be laughing much through the movie though. Was a rather "Dark" rendition of the comics.


That Fox guy had the only joke in there. I laughed a lot at that one. That was the only comic relief though IMO. Alfred's I told ya so = not funny.

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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:37 AM

MSB


Oh yeah if you laughed all the way through The Dark Knight, you should definitely check in to the nearest mental institution( not Arkham)

OK how much slower can this day get???


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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:08 AM

KELKHIL


See and there lies the problem I think....

In any trailer that was released for this movie was there a part that made you think it was going to be funny?

I don't think that they were trying for funny anywhere really. Just tension breaking smart remarks so the stress did not overwhelm the characters.

I swear to god if I had heard "holy rusted metal Batman!" or any other campy line like the last series they would have lost my money for good on this one.

I wanted to see the darker side of Gotham and I think I saw some of it this time.

Batman over the years has changed and has had spin offs in different directions. Due to this you had different Series/chapters/comics altogether: Detective Comics, Batman, Batman and Robin, .......... , and The Dark Knight (there are so many that it would take days to list them all). We are talking decades of stories and hundreds of story tellers. Everyone has their favorite.

When I heard the title I wanted so much to believe that I was going to see a Joker that was a killer and not just a joke, a Batman that was pushed to the limits but would not compromise and a Batman and Joker rivalry that was more than just one liners and joy buzzers. They do bring out the best/worst in each other after all!

Yes, it was not perfect and there will be critics that hated/loved it.

I liked it. My opinion and I do not expect anyone to share my opinion exactly. Hell I would be down right surprised if there was anyone out there that did.

Was it perfect? No. I could start a list and completely tear this movie down but why? It was entertaining and it was someone else's vision of Batman.

Did it live up to the hype? That is up to each individual to decide. I will say that it was a lot better than I expected. I thought for sure that Ledger would ruin this movie and I was wrong. He will be missed in the movies to come.

I just hope they have Director's Cut that is NR Rated because I want to see what more Harvey and the Joker would have done had they not been trying for that PG-13.



Some men just wanna watch the world burn

Kelkhil
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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:53 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


You can count me in as one who agrees with you Kelkhil. I wanted to see that darker side. Without the extreme gore and violence (of which I still consider this PG-13 deserved an R) the film makers had to compensate with this half broke tooth gnawing on a well done steak of a flick. I hope people took in the fact that we do create our world with our actions (or lack thereof). And yes, we do ultimately run into our other self here in the now we have created. Yes, they are individual characters, but Bats and the Clown really are the duality of ourselves, order and chaos. We try to do so much in our lives without taking all the factors into account. It's the wakeup call we get that sometimes alters our path to find out who we really are. I think that is the true side people fail to look at. All movies should be entertaining. But I tire so much of the "That part was cool/funny/gross" comments while leaving the theater. I wish people would look more into themselves rather than just sip six dollar sodas and drool on their fake butter pop corn after being wow'd by computer generated creatures of whimsy or multiple digital explosions for 90 minutes. Our lives are really not that hard. The least they can do is work on some sort of self improvement or at least internalize the stife of people who survived traumatic experiences so that they may handle them better if ever experienced. Yeah, it means more to me than just watching a movie. It means finding answers to questions I never had the chance to recognize within myself. I just hope that the film makers working on such material can feel the actual impact their media has on people who truly appreciate them.

Okay. Ranting and rattling long enough. Time to strap on my boots and be the bad guy.

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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:36 AM

MSB


NV it ain't easy being mean

HUGS Kelkhil yes I did enjoy it and I appreciated the angles and complexity. I also though Heath Ledger did a remarkable job portraying a truly disturbed individual ( most actors go way over the top and try to be "kooky" and such) He maintained beautifully while the ever present edge of total loss of control was still in view. Also like the commentary on humanity with the boat situation ( don't want to spoil it)

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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:38 PM

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE


Hey all. Just wanted to check in and say hi, particularly for those of you who have been watching the news today. I'm not all that far from the 5.4 earthquake that hit south-east of LA, and I definitely felt it for about 20-30 seconds here. Long enough to realize that it was an earthquake, have some pictures fall off the wall and scare the crap out of me, grab my phone, and go huddle in a door way, then wait out the last few seconds. It was the largest one I've felt since moving to CA, but other than having to re-level all my pictures and pick up a few things, no damage here.

The ironic thing, of course, is that if I hadn't quit last week I would have been at the office way up north at the time, and probably not even felt it. Instead I was home, about 20 miles south-west of the epicenter.

Anyhow, all's well here. Just wanted to let you guys know. :)

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:41 PM

FREELANCERTEX


heres a ponder...kind of a vent..i'm reading a series, the final installment of which is coming out on saturday; the last one ended in such a "WHAT THE FUCK???" way, that i'm afraid of where the next one is going. the author's been building up this one couple's relationship for three books, and i dont think she's gonna all of a sudden change it now (since the characters' feelings for each other havent changed, but this thing that happened is like an 'aaaw shit...whats gonna happen now?')
but, i'm terrified that she's gonna go there and just totally flip everything she's built up in the past three effing books, and end it a way she really shouldnt end. iunno, just had to get that out there. i dont think she's gonna do it, cuz its something that totally wouldnt make sense, but there it is >< *dies*

i'll be very upset with her if she does that.


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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:39 PM

MSB


HUGS CK..oh I am so glad you're ok... now we just need to hear from Bug and make sure she's alright

Hmm I actually stopped reading a book series ( the Rachel Morgan books) 'cause they killed off the love interest I enjoyed so much...so I hope that doesn't happen to you FLT:)

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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:42 PM

FREELANCERTEX


yeah me too, cuz in the first and second books they were like "i love u so much" then in the THIRD they fricking get engaged, and at the very end something happens to her (its a semi triangle, she loves one guy, theres another guy who thinks her love interest is bad for her, and no matter how many times she tells him "i love HIM not YOU, and he's not bad for me to be around" the guy wont listen, and causes something to happen to her at the very end of book 3--by the by, when he does that, she's like 'omfg i really fricking hate you, forever') though right till the last page the engagement is still on. and im like "holy fuck, theres a whole nother BOOK, what the eff is gonna happen?" the fact that she's built up the relationship and gone THIS far with it to the last book, makes me doubt she'd kill off a love interest that strong, but authors have sometimes been known to do stupid things @_@ still, im hopeful thats not true in this case ^_^

OMG CK u mustve posted while i was still writing. glad to hear you're okay ><; jeez.. O_O


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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:25 PM

MSB


yeah this was a really cool relationship and then they killed the character...now I don't want to read the latest



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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 3:17 AM

KELKHIL


Quote:

Originally posted by nvghostrider:
You can count me in as one who agrees with you Kelkhil. I wanted to see that darker side. Without the extreme gore and violence (of which I still consider this PG-13 deserved an R) the film makers had to compensate with this half broke tooth gnawing on a well done steak of a flick. I hope people took in the fact that we do create our world with our actions (or lack thereof). And yes, we do ultimately run into our other self here in the now we have created. Yes, they are individual characters, but Bats and the Clown really are the duality of ourselves, order and chaos. We try to do so much in our lives without taking all the factors into account. It's the wakeup call we get that sometimes alters our path to find out who we really are. I think that is the true side people fail to look at. All movies should be entertaining. But I tire so much of the "That part was cool/funny/gross" comments while leaving the theater. I wish people would look more into themselves rather than just sip six dollar sodas and drool on their fake butter pop corn after being wow'd by computer generated creatures of whimsy or multiple digital explosions for 90 minutes. Our lives are really not that hard. The least they can do is work on some sort of self improvement or at least internalize the stife of people who survived traumatic experiences so that they may handle them better if ever experienced. Yeah, it means more to me than just watching a movie. It means finding answers to questions I never had the chance to recognize within myself. I just hope that the film makers working on such material can feel the actual impact their media has on people who truly appreciate them.

Okay. Ranting and rattling long enough. Time to strap on my boots and be the bad guy.

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*whispers* notice how the conversation switched to smut books all a sudden? flee NVG! Flee!

(flees for the shadows)

Some men just wanna watch the world burn

Kelkhil
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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:04 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by Kelkhil:
*whispers* notice how the conversation switched to smut books all a sudden? flee NVG! Flee!


Silly women and their version of porn. It's good that they're open about it at least.

Pssh earthquakes are nothing CK. Don't try to fool me. I've lived there. It's just all *rumble* *rumble* *nothing*. Pssh I say!

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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:38 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Good morning peoples!

Yeah Zeek, but I can be pretty open about porn. Not that I need it (or even really want it) any more. We all have our pursuits. But to me porn was just so much easier and cleaner than all the Squid chasers in town.

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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 6:58 AM

MSB


Zeek you're just bitchy 'cause our porn has better story lines...LOL

HUGS Kelkhil

NV ( isn't he just the sweetest damn thing?)


Now seriously someone put up the Rugbug signal because we need to make sure she's ok

Also a ponder... ( I'm asking for someone else) When a friend has done or said something that makes things awkward for you both, and you didn't give the response they wanted, how long should you give them to chill before re-initiating contact??
( I have a friend who is happily married and just had another friend of hers confess he was in love and wanted her to leave her husband.....she of course was appalled and said no and now that friend isn't speaking to her)

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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 7:49 AM

ZEEK


Better stoylines!?! Ours are way better. No fluff in there just "go to the doctor's office *boom* nurse sex". That's a good story!

Bah RugBug is fine. Earthquakes aren't dangerous that's just a myth that Californians perpetuate to make people think they're tough. *Light's up ZeeBug signal* I'll attempt to summon her anyway just to calm you down.

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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 7:57 AM

MSB


ROTFLMAO....nurse sex

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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 8:44 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by MSB:
ROTFLMAO....nurse sex


It's more believable than being captured by pirates on the high seas only to find out that the captain is really a good man behind the gruff exterior and blah blah blah.

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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 9:17 AM

AIKO


Heh. Both types are kinda stupid. Having said the required response for the discussion, CAN WE END THIS SUBJECT NOW?!! In the words of Wash...

"Everyone not talking about sex, in here. Everyone else, elsewhere."

... I think those fit, don't you? Well, maybe a substitution of "sex" for "porn", but it's basically the same thing :P

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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:22 AM

MSB


HUGS... sorry I know you guys are new and we've sort of morphed over time, but used to be this thread was R rated and was once titled Male/Female Imponderables and we talked mostly about sex...

But we can stop now...

how about my ponder?? How long would you give the guy to sulk about having his feelings hurt??

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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:29 AM

AIKO


Lolz... Glad I missed out on that :P

Hum... it would depend on the guy in question, and how offended the girl was. I'd say, in that kinda situation, I'd say the girl should wait a couple days after she cooled down to approach the guy, in case the guy takes longer to recuperate than the girl. And if he's still mad, then, well... I'd say, wait a week, then two weeks, then a month, then give him up for good.

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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:37 AM

MSB


Um I think you missed my post. Guy was offended not girl. See she's married( very happily) and he suddenly tells her he's in love with her and wants her to run away with him...she says No sorry I can't and don't want to...and now he's upset. I told her to give him some space, but how much space do you think he needs?

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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:26 AM

ZEEK


That relationship is dead in the water IMO. That guy said he was in love. He wanted her to run away with him. She just crushed his hopes and dreams. I'd guess it's going to take him a long time to get over that.

I'm guessing he was pretty much misreading all their "friend" things they did together. Doing stuff with him again is just going to send him signals that he doesn't understand.

I recommend cutting ties and hoping that a few years down the road they bump into each other and he's happily married and maybe they can start being friends again.

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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:36 AM

FREELANCERTEX


Quote:

Originally posted by MsB: yeah this was a really cool relationship and then they killed the character...now I don't want to read the latest

See at least you knew the relationship was over before the series was over. I'm not gonna know now till the END of the series @_@ *dies* but the more i think about it the more i think she won't end it that way for some reason. i'm hopin im right lol

about the friend thing, if he hasn't gotten over it by 2 weeks at the latest, he has worse problems than my girl friends :-P


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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:44 AM

MSB


See I was thinking as they've been friends 3 years ( and yes she's been married that whole time) he'd feel teh sting and then calm and realize that was a doomed leap and move on...hmm

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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:49 AM

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE


I'm with Zeek on this one, though I come at it from the girl side (obviously), and from the perspective of having spent my entire post-puberty life trying to avoid that sort of conversation. The relationship is dead in the water. Don't try to re-establish ties. If she sees him again with mutual friends, then she should be friendly, certainly, but showing concern over his hurt feelings will only reinforce his view that there's more than friendship there.

And honestly, I kind of miss our R-rated days.

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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:57 AM

MSB


Hmm see i knew thos ponder would be complicated... it's just they were friends for years and she doesn't want to lose a friend ( and let me tell you she was STUNNED that he felt that way)

Yeah I do kind of miss our long panty ponders and all the other stuff...maybe that's why we don't have a ton of posts any more. We need better topics

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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 11:59 AM

FREELANCERTEX


MSB: theyve known each other for THREE years and he's sore about what?


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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 12:00 PM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by CaliforniaKaylee:
I'm with Zeek on this one


Nothing wrong with joining the winning team. (is that emoticon working yet?)


MsB, I think the guy has a screw loose. He isn't looking at things logically. I don't think he's just going to figure out that he miscalculated. He's probably been playing this out in his head for at least 1 of those 3 years. That isn't just going away. Trust me I know guys who have been obsessed with girls they knew for like one summer and went on one date with. They can keep that obsession going for years with even the littlest of encouragement.

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