GENERAL DISCUSSIONS

More fan involvment needed now.

POSTED BY: JAYSEDAI
UPDATED: Sunday, January 18, 2004 09:30
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Sunday, January 11, 2004 11:30 AM

JAYSEDAI


We need to re-double our efforts right away. Here are some additional recommendations:

Signing up for the Hollywood Stock Exchange [ www.hsx.com ] and buying Firefly "stock" so that the price and volume go up (sounds crazy but it is one of the indicators execs check). We don’t want to stuff the “ballot box” per se, but having the fans experience HSX in exchange for helping the cause is a fair trade in my opinion.
[ Please see http://forums.prospero.com/foxfirefly/messages?msg=12418.5 for info on to properly increase Firefly's HSX value. ]

Going to http://www.universalstudios.com/homepage/html/contact_us/ and asking when the movie is coming out OR when is the official site going up OR when are they going to re-run the Fox series on the SciFi Network (corporate synergy never hurts!).
[click on "Accept" then select the area you would like to comment on ie "Movies", "Television" etc.]

Thank you notes to Firefly movie champion Mary Parent (President, Production @ Universal) and her boss Stacy Snider (the Chairwoman of Universal) for recognizing what a great property Firefly is and how happy you’ll be to see Serenity on the big screen (and T-shirts, and action figures, etc.)

Universal Pictures
100 Universal City Plaza
Universal City, CA 91608
[This the only address I have for Universal, if anybody has a more direct address, let me know.]

Posting on Ain't It Cool [ www.aintitcool.com ], and other movie sites.

Additional idea at: www.fireflymovie.com/guerilla_ideas.html

Jeremy

-edit: added link about proper hsx.com behavior

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Sunday, January 11, 2004 12:46 PM

SAINT JAYNE


If you got to www.hsx.com and say that SaintJayne referred you, I promise I will devert all kickbacks I get to the Firefly movie. I have no other love and care for no other movie.

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Sunday, January 11, 2004 1:55 PM

SHINY


Incidentally, the HSX thing has free registration, and you get something like $1,000,000 virtual dollars to start with to buy movie 'stocks'. In other words, it costs you nothing to do it and if it has even a slight chance of helping out Firefly, why not?

RIVER
Purple elephants are flying.
MAL
Good. Thanks for the update.

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Sunday, January 11, 2004 4:40 PM

RATHBANDU


Just bought 50 thousand shares in Firefly at HSX.

Keep flying!
-Brendan

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Sunday, January 11, 2004 4:41 PM

RATHBANDU


double post

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Sunday, January 11, 2004 5:32 PM

REKKA2


messages have been officially sent to Universal

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Monday, January 12, 2004 10:58 AM

ASTRIANA


Sent my message yesterday. Today, got the following response:

"Thank you for your note in support of the Firefly Movie."

Am I jumping the gun to think that this means Universal is actually GOING to make the movie, and just hasn't announced it yet??? (Please?!?!?!?!?)

~A~

...I'm still free,
You can't take the sky from me.

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Monday, January 12, 2004 11:12 AM

REKKA2


Thank you for your support of the Firefly movie project.

^thats what i got

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Monday, January 12, 2004 11:15 AM

WERZBOWSKI


Quote:

Signing up for the Hollywood Stock Exchange [ www.hsx.com ] and buying Firefly "stock" so that the price and volume go up (sounds crazy but it is one of the indicators execs check). We don’t want to stuff the “ballot box” per se, but having the fans experience HSX in exchange for helping the cause is a fair trade in my opinion.
[ Please see http://forums.prospero.com/foxfirefly/messages?msg=12418.5 for info on to properly increase Firefly's HSX value. ]

Going to http://www.universalstudios.com/homepage/html/contact_us/ and asking when the movie is coming out OR when is the official site going up OR when are they going to re-run the Fox series on the SciFi Network (corporate synergy never hurts!).
[click on "Accept" then select the area you would like to comment on ie "Movies", "Television" etc.]



Done and done twice. I had already emailed Universal about Firefly last week. Haven't received any responses yet though.

Oh and BTW I told them SaintJayne sent me.


"We will rise again!"

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Monday, January 12, 2004 2:38 PM

SHINY


Quote:

Originally posted by jaysedai:
[ Please see http://forums.prospero.com/foxfirefly/messages?msg=12418.5 for info on to properly increase Firefly's HSX value. ]



Here's the post for those who don't want to wait for the slow prospero forums to load:

Quote:


From: BACCHUS68 Jan-11 5:59 pm
To: DVDGuy (JAYSEDAI) (6 of 20)

12418.6 in reply to 12418.1

one thing about hsx.com you can't buy and buy and buy. you can only buy a certain # of shares per account. If you have multiple accounts and keep buying firefly and they see it rise tremendously with "no new news" they will get suspicious possibly check the multiple accouns and them poof the stock could be "halted" because of market manipulation and not go up anymore..
But there is news...
Post to hsx movie news board about the info that universal is close to greenlighting firefly.. (make sure no one mentiones the idea of buying and buying market manipulation so we don;t halt it)

Write to the trades(an hsx fan site) about writing an article about firefly. If enough of people write them they will probably post a new story and write to all the other fans sites listd on hsx. One things traders do is read news and I don't want us to be caught market manipulating but traders will listen to news that the fan sites give and since these guys are fans of films in general they may help us without us needing manipulation.

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the non-creative things to me sound like it's a budget thing. firefly is set at a little under 20bucks now so that means traders believe it will only make less then 20mil in a month. If the budget for the film is more then that that is probably why universal may still be gunshy..
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I would say post on yahoo message boards. every single movie that comes out has it's own yahoo message board attached. Just go to yahoo movies and youwill se the link on the left whn you choose a film(especially if you see the film is a universal film:hint hint)Talk about how you are looking forward to firefly. So say it's a romance comedy film youare looking at. say God this sounds good but not as funny as firefly will be when it omes out.. or this is romantic but it won't hold a candle to inara and Mal in the firefly movie coming out.. or hey I heard the action scenes in the firefly movie are amazing.. Trust me Universal and market shills all the time post to the Yahoo movie boards I've seen it so they will see it if you post there.Post daily and often for all the new movies coming out
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Just an suggestion




RIVER
Purple elephants are flying.
MAL
Good. Thanks for the update.

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Tuesday, January 13, 2004 5:00 AM

WERZBOWSKI


We need more fans to sign up and buy their maximum number of Firefly shares. The value is rising now but it's still a ways away from where it started. It's just starting to climb out of the "valley" and approach the level it was several months ago.

Come on fellow Browncoats it's free so sign up and get buying those stocks.

"We will rise again!"

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Tuesday, January 13, 2004 5:30 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Purchased my Firefly stock.

Incidently, I never received a response to my email in support of the movie. Hmmmm......

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."


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Tuesday, January 13, 2004 5:35 AM

DESIGNFLAW


I played HSX seriously a few months ago.. I'll try and log in and put as much of my 40+ mil into anything firefly related.

EDIT: Yikes! didn't even need a mil for max shares.. and they don't have any actors associated with it yet. DOH!

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Tuesday, January 13, 2004 5:43 AM

CHANNAIN

i DO aim to misbehave


A fantasy stock market? Shiny!

50,000 shares bought today by me. Let's see what other trouble I can get into!

FRFLY - Active Stock
Current price $18.69 per share

So how do we go about buying Starbonds? More to the point, how do we get our crew in the Starbonds and start investing?

Firefly Artwork Series
http://www.mnartists.org/artistHome.do?rid=7922

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Tuesday, January 13, 2004 5:51 AM

DESIGNFLAW


I don't think any of the crew are in HSX yet, and I seriously doubt that they will until the movie is officially confirmed.


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Tuesday, January 13, 2004 6:14 AM

THALOS


Did my little part. Bought 50K shares in "Firefly" stock.

Also, it seems important to still promote the DVD so I am exposing everyone I know to at least the pilot episode to try and get them addicted. (And if they are on the edge of liking it, I show them "Our Mrs. Reynolds". Even though it's not in the correct order that episode has so many plot twists and good humor that it is the cincher.)

Can only hope "official" movie news comes out soon.

"Whoa, good Bible."

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Tuesday, January 13, 2004 8:52 PM

STEVE580


Sent an email to Universal a few days ago, asking when the film's website would be up - got this responce:
"This is still quite awhile off. The movie hasn't been set for production yet. "

Also, got them 50k of stocks, said I was sent by SaintJayne....


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Tuesday, January 13, 2004 10:27 PM

SOUPCATCHER


At least you got something different.

I got the same short reply that Rekka2 got, "Thank you for your support of the Firefly movie project."

I SHAVED OFF MY BEARD FOR YOU, DEVIL WOMAN!

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Wednesday, January 14, 2004 7:27 AM

ASTRIANA


Oooo! "Yet"! "Yet" is good! We like "yet"! "Yet" implies "will"!

~A~

...I'm still free,
You can't take the sky from me.

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Wednesday, January 14, 2004 8:36 AM

CAPTAINCDC


Quote:

Originally posted by Saint Jayne:
If you got to www.hsx.com and say that SaintJayne referred you, I promise I will devert all kickbacks I get to the Firefly movie. I have no other love and care for no other movie.




Just registered on HSX and bought stock and told them SaintJayne referred me.

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

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Wednesday, January 14, 2004 8:38 AM

CAPTAINCDC


Emailed Universal asking about Firefly: The Movie, they responded with this:

Production hasn't been set yet for the FireFly based movie. So, no word yet on timing for the deliverables you are asking for.



May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

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Wednesday, January 14, 2004 6:42 PM

SAINT JAYNE


Quote:

Oh and BTW I told them SaintJayne sent me.

Blast! A flaw in my plan. I started with 2M$ and the max 50,000 shares in Firefly cost under 1M$. Now I'm swimming in imaginary money and I don't know what to do with it. Should I short other stocks?

I looked to see if I could buy Adam Baldwin, Joss Whedon or Nathan Fillion bonds (starbonds), but no dice.

Nothing left but good intentions...

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Wednesday, January 14, 2004 7:04 PM

TALONPEST


I bought Firefly and Batman: Intimidation Game. Should be interesting to see how I do.

I also noticed they make no claims about not selling my email address to spammers... should be exciting.

And did anyone notice how there's a project called Afterlife (the Sony one) that was co-written by Joss Whedon? I'd have bought that, except the premise sounded a bit uninteresting: a scientist's mind is transplanted into the body of a deranged killer. Eh.

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Wednesday, January 14, 2004 7:31 PM

INVISIBLEGREEN


Quote:

Originally posted by Talonpest:
And did anyone notice how there's a project called Afterlife (the Sony one) that was co-written by Joss Whedon? I'd have bought that, except the premise sounded a bit uninteresting: a scientist's mind is transplanted into the body of a deranged killer. Eh.



"Afterlife" was a script Joss Whedon wrote over a decade ago, around the same time as the "Buffy" movie. It was picked up by a director about half a year ago. The script has been rewritten, but the basic plot remains the same.

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Thursday, January 15, 2004 2:19 AM

WERZBOWSKI


Hey no sweat.

Buy stocks in Universal, the Remake movie fund, the new Buffy movie, anything you can find that Joss might be involved in and/or any movie that the Firelfy cast are in but not credited by HSX. (Alan Tyduk is apparently in I, Robot)

Other than that just play the game by buying whatever strikes your fancy and see how much "money" you can make.

"We will rise again!"

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Thursday, January 15, 2004 3:49 AM

11THHOUR


Quote:

Originally posted by jaysedai:
We need to re-double our efforts right away



I've been proposing some guerilla marketing "wild posting" for Firefly at the O.B. I'll post the message here too.

PLEASE NOTE that the word "BOO" has been inserted in the URLs for the poster files... didn't think folks here would appreciate having a huge image file spilling all over the place here! So just remove BOO if you want to download a file.
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So far, it seems that the "Outlaw" poster of Mal has received the best response from folks.

So since a guerilla style "wild posting" campaign ain't no good unless you're postin', thought I'd better just go ahead and some final tweaks on the design and get it ready for people to use.

Firefly can benefit from all the positive buzz and promotion possible to help assure the movie project... and we fans can do a great deal. So let's start posting and getting the word out there! Time is important, we really need to get some new action going for Firefly.

Again, the poster is just black and white, simple to print and copy. The poster is formatted for 11" x 17". If you have a wide carriage printer great. If not, then it can be printed on letter or legal size paper (legal is better, more detail), and then enlarged on a copier. The poster design can be put on colored paper for more impact. Golden or green paper would be dynamic, just make sure the color of the paper is not too dark or the image will not show up well.

I have posted a nice, high resolution file for the poster which will work well for PRINTING. This file is in jpeg format to help reduce the file size for uploading purposes, but still retain good detail. If you have a high speed connection, the download will go fairly fast. If you have dial-up, it'll take a while. So I've also posted a medium size file... not as much detail as the big one, but much better than the file meant for "viewing only".
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LINKS TO FILES:

BIG FILE for PRINTING - 2.2 MB (Best detail)

BOOhttp://home.att.net/~srt.art/ffdvd-outlaw-poster.jpg

MEDIUM SIZE FILE - 1.3 MB (Should be OK for printing, not as much detail as above file. But use this if you are not able to download the large file.)

BOOhttp://home.att.net/~srt.art/ffdvd-outlaw-sml.jpg

Below is a viewing file only - 80 KB (This one will NOT print well, way too "pixelly"!)


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If you don't have a fast enough Internet connection, or a decent printer, there are other ways to still get the poster printed. Many copy outlets can download files off the Internet for you and print them out. Just give them the link for the poster and it can be done that way. Shouldn't be too expensive, but ask first if budgets are tight.

Now these posters are meant to be used! They can be put wherever you've seen "wild posting" done. You can also ask permission to post them places, inside or outside. They're arty enough looking, plus there's that handsome western guy, that people should be okay about letting you post them. PLUS, you could start some very interesting conversations with people.

Have fun with it and know that you're spreading the word to those that needs it told! If enough of the Firefly Faithful can do guerilla marketing in many cities, who knows, we may even start getting some media buzz!

11thHour

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"Doing the impossible makes us mighty." - Malcolm Reynolds

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Friday, January 16, 2004 5:49 PM

SAINT JAYNE


BrownCoat1 (and others who wrote Universal), I received a response:
Quote:

Universal (upixnews@unistudios.com) responded:Thank you for your note in support of the Firefly movie.

-----Original Message-----
The suspence is killing me! Please announce the Firefly movie as soon as you can!


So I'm no warrior poet...

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Friday, January 16, 2004 5:55 PM

SAINT JAYNE


Quote:

Originally posted by Werzbowski:
Buy stocks in Universal, the Remake movie fund, the new Buffy movie, anything you can find that Joss might be involved in and/or any movie that the Firelfy cast are in but not credited by HSX.


What? I'll buy stock in Universal, but forget other movies backed by Joss or the Firefly cast! I want them focused on the Firefly movie. Sorry Buffy fans, but you have, what, like 5 seasons on DVD, right? You can wait...

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Friday, January 16, 2004 9:47 PM

MAKEROFPATHS


I also got a response, but it was a week ago. It was from a live person, it seems. My last line was: "Hope you can bring Firefly's amazing adventures to the screen -- soon!"
The response was:

"Thank You for your note, stay posted for any updates."

It's kinda positive, don't you think?


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Friday, January 16, 2004 10:05 PM

11THHOUR


This is the reply I received from Universal last week:

Quote:

Thank you for your note.  Stay Tuned for more details.


This is the e-mail I sent to Universal:

Quote:

Just wanted to express my excitement over Universal's interest in producing a movie based on the fantastic show FIREFLY.

Universal continues to involve itself with adventurous, imaginative and highly entertaining movies.  FIREFLY has all the ingredients that would make for a highly successful venture for Universal.

Thanks so much!



The response I received was somewhat less generic than others I've seen. Which I hope indicates that real people are reading our e-mails... not just some automated reply.

11thHour

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"Doing the impossible makes us mighty." - Malcolm Reynolds

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Saturday, January 17, 2004 12:09 AM

HUMBLE


Hooo-Ahhh!!! Just put 50 large down on Firefly!

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Saturday, January 17, 2004 11:05 AM

SAINT JAYNE


For those that don't use www.hsx.com, give it a whirl! It might help the Firefly movie get started.

I've been trading for a week a received over H$1M in kickbacks. Thanks to everyone who told them I sent you. New people, tell them "jaysedai" sent you please. I have more H$ than I know what to do with!

These are my goals:

MovieStocks


FRFLYHighLow
THIS WEEKH$20.12H$17.78
THIS MONTHH$20.12H$16.48

Currently trading at $20.62 - BEST EVER

Funds


UNIVXHighLow
THIS WEEKH$10.74H$10.30
THIS MONTHH$10.74H$9.76




FOXXHighLow
THIS WEEKH$14.70H$14.52
THIS MONTHH$14.74H$13.65

I'm shorting these bastards

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Saturday, January 17, 2004 11:44 AM

SHADESIREN


lol :P I just joined up - same id, shadesiren - and I sent ya some more money.. sorry :P

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Saturday, January 17, 2004 1:10 PM

SHADOWKATE


Alrighty all joined up

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Sunday, January 18, 2004 7:44 AM

RIZZ


Hello all,

Recently saw the entire series of Firefly and all I can say is WOW.

I've signed up, bought me shares, contacted universal and even buzzed the BBC to buy this series ASAP. (UK Sci-Fi channel will never get the interest this show deserves).

Keep up the good work and fingers crossed for the movie/series/world domination

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Sunday, January 18, 2004 8:13 AM

SAINT JAYNE


Quote:

Originally posted by Rizz:
I've signed up, bought me shares, contacted universal and even buzzed the BBC to buy this series ASAP.


Go for you! And good for us.

Even South Africa is running Firefly, are you serious that it's not in the UK yet?

http://www.sabc3.co.za/sabc3.asp?pid=105

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Sunday, January 18, 2004 9:04 AM

RIZZ


Quote:

Originally posted by Saint Jayne:
Quote:

Originally posted by Rizz:
I've signed up, bought me shares, contacted universal and even buzzed the BBC to buy this series ASAP.


Go for you! And good for us.

Even South Africa is running Firefly, are you serious that it's not in the UK yet?

http://www.sabc3.co.za/sabc3.asp?pid=105





It is on in the UK SaintJ, but only via the Sci-Fi channel, (small viewer base). It needs more exposure over here (preferably on the BBC2 7pm slot previously reserved for buffy, and farscape.

Already have two mates that think it's much better than Enterprise, DS9, TNG.



This is just the beginning!

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Sunday, January 18, 2004 9:30 AM

EMOPIRATE05


Done and done. I bought my 50,000 shares. I also got shares in Alien vs. Predator. I couldn't help it. I'm a geek for sci-fi.

I've got 5 bucks that says the aliens whip the predators into next Tuesday...

"Ninjas are totally sweet. What with the guitar solos and the flipping out and totally chopping people's heads off." ~Jade Puget

"Ah the pitter-patter of little feet in big combat boots...SHUT UP!!" ~Capt. Mal

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