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Imponderables- It Ain't Me Babe

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Monday, September 17, 2007 11:05 AM

MSG


LOl OK you're right hon.
Must dash as I have a nail appointment

TTFN and HUGS to all....


mutters "stupid shorts" on the way out!

"I'm not all that interested in the mental health of people who want to kill me. "- Leroy Jethro Gibbs


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Monday, September 17, 2007 11:28 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Actually doing pretty good. Kinda on the fringe right now but Death Proof comes out tomorrow and I'm debating whether or not to leave early in order to watch it real loud. It just sounds like a good idea.

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Monday, September 17, 2007 12:43 PM

COPILOT


Do whatever makes you happiest darling. Have an NV afternoon if you'd like.
~LOVE

An I carried such a torch

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Monday, September 17, 2007 1:18 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


I just might. Seems the order of business is happiness and I intend on having a steady stream for as long as possible.

Okay, so I have been thinking. At the onset of this whole thing with Mindy we watched a movie we had both seen seperately (me on DVD and her on Lifetime). It really was the day before stuff happened and we pretty much cuddled the whole way through. The movie is Now And Forever starring Adam Beach and Mia Kirshner. If anyone has ever seen this movie than it is understandably hard to watch in more than a few aspects. I just thought it strange that we would see it from different sources near to at the same time and be thinking of eachother while watching it and then to watch it together.

Anyone who has not seen it hit me up. I'd been wanting to start a movie exchange here but figured I'd wait 'til there were enough interested forks in the thread who would pass movies about instead of getting movies and keeping them for themselves.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 3:48 AM

MSG


What's it about NV???

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 4:04 AM

VERSEEXPLORER


I love Adam Beach. I can't believe that I missed one of his. I'm with MsG, what's it about?




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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 4:06 AM

MSG


Ok now to sound doubly stupid...who's Adam Beach??

HUGS Vex how are you this morning??

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 4:31 AM

VERSEEXPLORER


Hugs, MsG. I'm doing fine this morning.

Adam Beach was in Squanto: A Warrior's Tale, Smoke Signals, Windtalkers, Skinwalkers, Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee, and tons of others.

This is a pic when he was younger in Smoke Signals.


And here's one that's a bit more current.





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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 4:33 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


mornin' Imponderables.

*goes off in search of a cookie recipe for whimsy*




~jimi
Lt. Alexander - Chief Medic / XO Alpha Co. / Logistics Specialist - 76th IAB

-Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense.
-Sex should be friendly. Otherwise stick to mechanical toys; it's more sanitary.
-Taxes are not levied for the benefit of the taxed.
-You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 4:34 AM

MISTERG


He's also about to join the cast of Law & Order: SVU.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 4:35 AM

MSG


Oh I know that guy...OK that makes sense:)

Oh that reminds me. Whimsy punkin...I will mail cookies to you tomorrow...along with my super secret allergy stuff...works so much better than prescription.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 4:47 AM

VERSEEXPLORER


Cookies! Yummy!






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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 4:49 AM

RUGBUG


Morning to the lovely imponderables. I've been reading some stuff when I can, catching up on D*C pictures and stories, the adventures of Magda and Mavs in DC, etc. I miss being able to post more often, but I'm still trying to not get lost in the black.

Quote:

Originally posted by MisterG:
Dancin fool!

Yup.. I just did the registration for us to take our ballroom dancing begining class.

*whimpers* heh



You just scored massive brownie (browncoat?) points. Back ages ago we talked about the allure of a dancing man. Good stuff.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 4:51 AM

MISTERG


Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:
You just scored massive brownie (browncoat?) points. Back ages ago we talked about the allure of a dancing man.



hehe actually Im not THAT worried. It would be nice to finaly get some rythm and stop moving like a clumsy white man when I attempt to dance.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 4:56 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


*pouncetackles RugBug and swing dances her around the room*

I haven't seen you in a while doll, I hope that things are well with you. :)




~jimi
Lt. Alexander - Chief Medic / XO Alpha Co. / Logistics Specialist - 76th IAB

-Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense.
-Sex should be friendly. Otherwise stick to mechanical toys; it's more sanitary.
-Taxes are not levied for the benefit of the taxed.
-You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 4:57 AM

MSG


RUGBUG!!!! How are you ?? Oh we've missed you. How are the horses? Any shows recently? HUGS oh it's good you're here.

* gets out her dancing shoes

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 5:19 AM

ZEEK


Rugbug's alive! Hi, Rugbug.

MrG I think I spotted your problem. You said you want to do better when you try dancing. Why are you trying to dance in the first place. Just remove that step and problem gone.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 5:24 AM

MSG


HUGS the stuffing out of Zeek...keep it up and I'm teaching you to tango cutie..

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 5:41 AM

RUGBUG


*Whirls around the room in Jimi's arms* Phew! Now that is much fun. I tell ya, a man that can move on the dance floor is a dream.

I'm a tad jealous having missed D*C...it looked like tons of fun. This is what I've been up to....



That wasn't much fun. The age old adage about riding is something about keeping the horse between you and the ground. I'm a firm believer in that adage, but can't always seem to follow it. There was no permanent damage other than a very bruised ego and some serious disappointment in my pony who was behaving like a he'd never shown before.

Oh well, we have another chance in three weeks...and that includes a shot at $1000.



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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 5:50 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
HUGS the stuffing out of Zeek...keep it up and I'm teaching you to tango cutie..


You can lead a man to a dance floor, but you can't make him dance.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 6:08 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
You can lead a man to a dance floor, but you can't make him dance.



With the right motivation (or a certain look in their eyes), I can assure you that they can.

RugBug, sorry to hear about the fall, though glad that you are alright. If you ever do make it to the east coast, I've got at least a few dances saved for you.



~jimi
Lt. Alexander - Chief Medic / XO Alpha Co. / Logistics Specialist - 76th IAB

-Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense.
-Sex should be friendly. Otherwise stick to mechanical toys; it's more sanitary.
-Taxes are not levied for the benefit of the taxed.
-You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 6:11 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Oh my goodness 'Bug. Seems I cringed as if I were actually there. No permanent damage is a good thing. Might be a wierd question but has your pony been isolated lately? Seems to have a far off look about him.
Hope your backside (and your ego) is doing better.
Hugs.

Well ladies, Now And Forever is a film about a Native boy and a white girl who grow up together and seem to part ways for terrible reasons. The girl comes from a pretty screwed up homelife and the boy from a traditional Native home, but each have a single parent. It is strange because she learns how to live with the world from the boys father and how not to live from her own mother. Honestly it isn't the greatest movie but the emotional content is staggering. Anyhoo, avoid looking at the Amazon plot summary because it gives up some plot points and ruins it.

Oh, forgot to say good morning to all.

Good morning.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 6:19 AM

RUGBUG


Quote:

Originally posted by nvghostrider:
Oh my goodness 'Bug. Seems I cringed as if I were actually there. No permanent damage is a good thing. Might be a wierd question but has your pony been isolated lately? Seems to have a far off look about him.
Hope your backside (and your ego) is doing better.
Hugs.



Heh. Everything's fine... One of the first things I did once I got up was ask the photographer if she caught it. I was very happy when she said she did.

Interesting observation about Show. I'm not sure how you can tell in that picture (because it's so small you can't really even see his eye), or if you're just seeing his worried expression from the jump (they don't much like it when you fall off) or from the show in general (he was a pill the entire weekend), but it did turn out that he was sick. He's got a high fever that was just starting on Friday. We attributed most of the problem as stress from being at the show, but that wasn't the full story. He's currently in isolation so as not to get the rest of the barn sick and is getting meds.

Quote:

Originally posted by nvghostrider:
Well ladies, Now And Forever is a film about a Native boy and a white girl who grow up together and seem to part ways for terrible reasons. The girl comes from a pretty screwed up homelife and the boy from a traditional Native home, but each have a single parent. It is strange because she learns how to live with the world from the boys father and how not to live from her own mother.



Sounds like an interesting movie. I'll have to check it out.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 6:21 AM

MISTERG


Glad to hear you're ok and poor horsey! hope he gets well soon. Can you spoil him with sweet-feed while he's sick? hehe

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 6:32 AM

MSG


Bug- nice fall darlin. At least you weren't hurt. Glad you got it on film though. We have a great video of my sis getting bucked off, landing squarely on her feet, reigns in hand, and re-mounting. She loves that thing:)

Ok patience is so thin right now.....

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 6:37 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
Ok patience is so thin right now.....


I'll take that to mean I'm winning the stubborn ness battle of hug war 2007. I'd like to thank my sponsors "steely resolve" and "endless patiences". I couldn't have done it without you guys. After party at my place all non-huggers & non-dancers invited!

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 6:37 AM

MISTERG


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
Ok patience is so thin right now.....



Go to your happy place, go to your happy place.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 6:39 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Body language, not so much expression. He's posturing for the sake of doing his job. But the dispassionate look is usually attributed to sickness (which you mentioned) or the lack of freedom. Like people, animals just have to run or break stuff to blow off aggression. Posturing and form stifle those basic needs and encroach on happiness and eventually health.

Yeah, it might be kinda dumb reading into a few pictures of an animal I've never had contact with, but sometimes the basic lines of a creature (human or other) are very tell tale.

If you think that's wierd I've seen trackers who could read the emotional state of a person simply by looking at their footprints, even in office carpet. Now there is a skill worth developing.

So, whoever wants to watch the flick first, the lines are open, postage paid. The only stipulation is having to pass it to the next person when you're done. Movie number two is being voted on in my head and may include a small log for personal observations.

ADD: I read "stealy resolve" but kept thinking Steel Reserve Zeek. At least I have beer on the brain instead of OTHER.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 6:52 AM

VERSEEXPLORER


Hey, RugBug, good to see you around. Sorry to hear about the fall.




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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 6:54 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by nvghostrider:
If you think that's wierd I've seen trackers who could read the emotional state of a person simply by looking at their footprints, even in office carpet. Now there is a skill worth developing.


Wow they should entertain at parties. That would be so cool to have someone be like "you're cranky today...I can tell by the way you're arching your feet".

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 7:01 AM

MSG


Zeek love...it's nothing to do with you:) you just keep trying though

NV- wowza...always impressed by you, but now doubly so:)

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 7:05 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Cranky would actually be flat footed, toe dragging slightly on the instep, and heel plant off center, probably toward the inside.

Just thought of something attraction wise. I am attracted to women who lift their feet when they walk. There is just something about dragging feet with little purpose that bugs me. Problem is that people tend to keep their feet close to the ground are usually more cautious and thoughtful. Yeah, I'm wierd, deal with it.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 7:22 AM

RUGBUG


Quote:

Originally posted by nvghostrider:
Body language, not so much expression. He's posturing for the sake of doing his job. But the dispassionate look is usually attributed to sickness (which you mentioned) or the lack of freedom. Like people, animals just have to run or break stuff to blow off aggression. Posturing and form stifle those basic needs and encroach on happiness and eventually health.

Yeah, it might be kinda dumb reading into a few pictures of an animal I've never had contact with, but sometimes the basic lines of a creature (human or other) are very tell tale.



What was actually happening can fall into the description. Show was 'sucking back' (i.e. not galloping forward, not listening to my leg telling him to go) because he was looking at all the activity on the other side of the jump outside the arena rail. The jump was facing the in/out gate and everyone was congregated there. He was like 'what's going on out there." The jump ended up surprising him because he never focused on it until it was right under his nose. He stopped, I clucked and added leg and he leapt over, or mostly over , from a standstill.

The picture of the other jump was a similar situation, he was looking at the ring crew guy sitting on top of a utility box outside the arena.

That's our biggest problem. Show can jump much bigger in his sleep, but it's hard to keep him focused on his job because he gets worried and distracted by all the goings on outside of the arena. He gets better as the day goes on and he realizes nothing outside the arena is going to pounce on him.

If he were in a herd situation, he'd be the alarm horse, always telling the others where there is danger. 'Cept he'd see danger in EVERYTHING and would soon be the 'horse who cried wolf.'

I'm impressed that you could see a lot of that going on in the picture.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 7:48 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


I figure it like people: Those that look far away can see danger coming and have the benefit of time on their side. But if the bus is already a few feet away then they usually wake up in the hospital (if they are lucky) wondering what hit them.

Does he have ADD? Not meaning to make a joke but children (and people who suffer from PTSD) do the same thing. It might be especially difficult to get him in game mode if you live in the country where there is alot of foliage/cover in an area where there may be water within a few miles and plenty of game. Mountain Lions are a big fear (and aggressor) with horses due to their soft skin and enclosed living space. The smell of amonia really gets 'em going because Lions always smell of urine. Is here any way you can correct the problems of distraction and vigilance? I usually translate from human terms and lack horse sense that folks like yourself are fortunate to have developed.

Seems Mindy gets the chance to ride and work now. She's been helping GND's old boss sell and maintain his revolving herds for a few weeks. She was interested in a large white mixed breed(at over sixteen hands and having a charger mentality I was almost inclined to get him myself) that I had the chance to ride a few months ago. But she wants something smaller and faster for roping. How is it some folks are lucky enough to combine their jobs with the things they love?

Whoops. Meeting time then off to lunch and to buy Death Proof. See y'all in a bit.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:09 AM

MSG


hmmm there's no way to take him to the arena early?? My sis had a horse like that. Took ages to get him in the trailer and he would have a fit for the first few hours. We always took him early and let him have a wander, it helped a little... but I swear that horse spooked at leaves and everything else.

NV- ooh sounds like that's a great job for Mindy...and were you not so amazing at your job and so needed, I'd suggest you look elsewhere.HUGS enjoy the movie darlin

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:10 AM

RUGBUG


Heh...yep. ADD is a fitting descriptor for Show. I have a hard time focusing his attention, my trainer does a much better job of it.

He lives in your typical CA barn. Sometimes we have coyotes (which he definitely lets me know about). Sometimes there are Bobcats...and I'm sure Mountain Lions are about ocassionaly, although we rarely see them. He definitely knows he's a prey animal and is always wary, especially of things coming up from behind because that's how many of their predators attack.

Those are the struggles the owner of a sensitive horse goes through. Really what would make the situation better would be more experience, but I just can't afford to go to more shows. It's a catch-22.

That's awesome that Mindy gets to combine horses and work. Wish I could find a way to make a sufficient amount of money involving horses. Unfortunately, the other age old adage in horses applies to me, "To make a small fortune in horses, start with a large one."

MSG: he DID get into the ring early. We spent about an hour in there on Thursday doing walk/trot/canter and even jumped a few things. You can't go into the ring on show days until your class starts.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:17 AM

MISTERG


Two words: Horse Prozak :)

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:24 AM

MSG


HUGS Rugbug well I think he's darling and I'm sure he will get better:) He's fairly young right?



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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:34 AM

RUGBUG


to MisterG. I wish. Would make him happier, my happier, and the drug testers VERY unhappy. You can't even give vitamins if you are giving them for the express purpose of calming your horse down. Stupid drug rules.

Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
HUGS Rugbug well I think he's darling and I'm sure he will get better:) He's fairly young right?



Not anymore. He's 9 and if he was going to outgrow this he would pretty much be done at this point. He's just having a spooky period, partly because he's eating a lot of his neighbor's alfalfa. That always makes him spooky. But I can't figure out how to keep him away from the other's hay. Show does horsie yoga just to get at it.

Oh well. Back to more imponderables. Don't mean to monopolize things with my crazy horse issues. Let's talk about Zeek and his dancing issues.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:43 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


Quote:

Originally posted by MisterG:
Two words: Horse Prozak :)



Mmmmm, that stuff is good with bourbon.

I mean, uh, I heard that somewhere, yeah, that's it.




~jimi
Lt. Alexander - Chief Medic / XO Alpha Co. / Logistics Specialist - 76th IAB

-Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense.
-Sex should be friendly. Otherwise stick to mechanical toys; it's more sanitary.
-Taxes are not levied for the benefit of the taxed.
-You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:46 AM

MSG


LOK Jimi..yeah but that's an easy guess as bourbon goes with anything...

Bug- yeah HUGS well my mom has the same problem with trying to plant trees near the pasture..

Yes Zeek lets discuss your problems...shall we HUGS and more HUGs and more HUGS

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:56 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


That looks like fun.

*hugs Zeek for the hell of it*

And yes, MsG, bourbon goes with anything. :P



~jimi
Lt. Alexander - Chief Medic / XO Alpha Co. / Logistics Specialist - 76th IAB

-Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense.
-Sex should be friendly. Otherwise stick to mechanical toys; it's more sanitary.
-Taxes are not levied for the benefit of the taxed.
-You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 9:04 AM

MISTERG


Ya know what else goes well with Burbon?

One scotch, and one beer... :D

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 9:07 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:
Let's talk about Zeek and his dancing issues.


It's simple really. Women are broken. For some reason they think dancing is fun. Sadly medical science is baffled on the subject. I suggest prohibition to solve the problem.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 9:08 AM

WHIMSICALNBRAINPAN


*tries to catch up after a short absence*

Cookies, Altiods, and cookies oh my!

MSG: Thanks for sending the allergy remedy as well Although at this point it looks like I may have actually caught something. I just can't shake it either.

Rugbug: Sorry about the fall and the bruised ego. I'm glad it was just that though. I'm with NVG, the photos make it look much worse.

NVG: Intersting insight on the footprints/styles of walking. I would love to hear more on the subject.

Jimi: MsG is right and you know it! Bourbon goes with everything.

Quote:

Originally posted by MisterG:
Ya know what else goes well with Burbon?

One scotch, and one beer



Great song that one!

"Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." http://whimsicalnbrainpan.blogspot.com/

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 9:14 AM

MSG


Zeek we also like licking, and touching and ...are you really sure you want us fixed???

HUGS Whimsy oh my poor angel( fallen though you may be) I should send my special tea as well...packaged delayed until tomorrow so I can make the super chocolate cookies with chocolate chunks ( no white chocolate) instead....

I can think of something to go with bourbon Jimi

Ok Hon you hate whiskey though...giggle:)

"I'm not all that interested in the mental health of people who want to kill me. "- Leroy Jethro Gibbs


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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 9:15 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


*swing dances RugBug around the room again*

*leads whimsy in a sensual waltz*

*grabs MsG's hand and proceeds to tango around the room*

*turns and waves to Zeek*

If they're broken, I don't want 'em fixed.

gorramn typos

~jimi
Lt. Alexander - Chief Medic / XO Alpha Co. / Logistics Specialist - 76th IAB

-Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense.
-Sex should be friendly. Otherwise stick to mechanical toys; it's more sanitary.
-Taxes are not levied for the benefit of the taxed.
-You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 9:16 AM

MISTERG


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
Ok Hon you hate whiskey though...giggle:)



Now now I like true scotch tho :)

However, it appears no one got that it was also a song reference *cries softly into his milk...which he doesn't drink*

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 9:22 AM

WHIMSICALNBRAINPAN


Um Mr.G... *points up*

Nobody ever listens to me.

MSG: Thank you for being so kind (too kind) as to cater to my tastes. White chocolate is technically not chocolate at all and should be shot for trying to impersonate it.

*stops Jimi from dancing long enough to get a good huggle in*

"Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." http://whimsicalnbrainpan.blogspot.com/

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 9:22 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


True scotch, excellent.

Single Malt, preferrably a Highland or a Speyside. Neat. A good cigar would be nice with it too ...




~jimi
Lt. Alexander - Chief Medic / XO Alpha Co. / Logistics Specialist - 76th IAB

-Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense.
-Sex should be friendly. Otherwise stick to mechanical toys; it's more sanitary.
-Taxes are not levied for the benefit of the taxed.
-You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once.

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