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Thursday, July 12, 2007 12:55 PM

RUGBUG


Quote:

Originally posted by FlyVote:
But I think (hope) that there is something between that. That someone close to you can be intimate (without sensuality) and that this would be "something" more that a hired set of fingers would provide. A friend that is giving you a massage would (may) be more interested in your pleasure (non sensual) and well being. And your happiness. I think that is a different massage than you would get for money.

Just my opinion.



I appreciate your opinion...but I think it extrapolates an innocent comment a little to far. Zeek said he'd feel perv-y to get a head massage from a hot stylist and didn't want one if she wasn't hot...so perv-y.

I'm not the type to get massages from friends. I'm not even a hugger...so all that you typed up there means nothing to me. But I understand that it does have meaning for others. Some people are just fine getting massages/hugs/holding hands etc, with friends. Good for them.

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Thursday, July 12, 2007 1:00 PM

FLYVOTE


Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:
I'm not the type to get massages from friends. I'm not even a hugger...

Are you OK with virtual hugs? Cause I think I've virtual-hugged you on more than one occasion... If not, then: *warm glance* or *thumbs up*.



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Thursday, July 12, 2007 1:00 PM

HELL'S KITTEN


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
OK on a totally different note, guys what would you think of a girl giving you her number by handing you a business card that is just a personal use business card?

Ummmm... huh? Was there anything else on her "business card" aside from her name and number? Does she have her own business where she would actually need cards? If not, then, yeah, she gives her number out way too much......

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Thursday, July 12, 2007 1:10 PM

FLYVOTE


Quote:

Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
OK on a totally different note, guys what would you think of a girl giving you her number by handing you a business card that is just a personal use business card?

Ummmm... huh? Was there anything else on her "business card" aside from her name and number? Does she have her own business where she would actually need cards? If not, then, yeah, she gives her number out way too much......

There is a trend, and I don't think that it is all that recent, to have "personal cards" in lieu of or in addition to "business cards". The merit I see in that is based on giving someone your email address. Machine-printed leaves no doubt with characters that otherwise hand scribed may be misinterpreted. john.johnson01@text.rr.com is a bit harder than a 7-digit phone number. Add to that alternate emails, and cell numbers and it makes some sense. Depends a lot on the person.

If you call her and someone schedules you into an open hour, then that is a bad sign.



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Thursday, July 12, 2007 1:12 PM

RUGBUG


Quote:

Originally posted by FlyVote:
Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:
I'm not the type to get massages from friends. I'm not even a hugger...

Are you OK with virtual hugs? Cause I think I've virtual-hugged you on more than one occasion... If not, then: *warm glance* or *thumbs up*.



*Is now picturing Flyvote as 'Buddy Jesus' from Dogma*

Virtual hugs are fine. You're way over there...I'm way over here. A virtual hug may as well be a warm glance.

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Thursday, July 12, 2007 1:19 PM

FLYVOTE


Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:
Quote:

Originally posted by FlyVote:
Quote:

Originally posted by RugBug:
I'm not the type to get massages from friends. I'm not even a hugger...

Are you OK with virtual hugs? Cause I think I've virtual-hugged you on more than one occasion... If not, then: *warm glance* or *thumbs up*.



*Is now picturing Flyvote as 'Buddy Jesus' from Dogma*

Virtual hugs are fine. You're way over there...I'm way over here. A virtual hug may as well be a warm glance.

*wink, point, thumb up, and the indispensable sucking 'click' from tongue and side of mouth*



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Thursday, July 12, 2007 3:02 PM

RHYIANAN


For the hair washing question:

I do not find it pleasant at all. I absolutely hate it when someone else washes my hair, especially when they massage the scalp. This is mostly because I know that my hair becomes hopelessly tangled when someone does that and getting tangles out of waist-length hair is a pain, especially if they could have been prevented by more careful washing.

As far as personal cards go, I can see the advantage to giving out the email address, but otherwise, I would think the person would be indiscriminately giving out their personal information.


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Friday, July 13, 2007 4:21 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by Rhyianan:
For the hair washing question:
I do not find it pleasant at all.
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As far as personal cards go, I can see the advantage to giving out the email address, but otherwise, I would think the person would be indiscriminately giving out their personal information.


I agree about the personal cards being clearer to read because how good is anyone's writing after X hours at the club? And--maybe I'm just old fashioned--but if you give out your phone number enough to justify having cards printed up, why not just take out a Yellow Pages ad, buy some billboard space or use the old reliable bathroom stall scrawl?

The scalp is another matter. When I first was getting to know MsQ, part of our "courtship" revolved around her giving me haircuts because at the time she was a budding cosmetologist. (until recently I had hair) I Sometimes got experimented on. Manicures, highlighting and such. No wild fantasy styles or colors. One time I got a scalp massage and, intimacy/sensuality issues aside, it was the most envigorating and relaxing thing I can remember having in a very long time. Like, it's almost 20 years later and I'm still thinking about it. Add to it the fact that My Love was tending to my head and whoosh! my head ended up in the clouds.

Now I have something that runs on batteries. Um. It says "Norelco" on the side...


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Friday, July 13, 2007 4:31 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
OK on a totally different note, guys what would you think of a girl giving you her number by handing you a business card that is just a personal use business card?

Ummmm... huh? Was there anything else on her "business card" aside from her name and number? Does she have her own business where she would actually need cards? If not, then, yeah, she gives her number out way too much......


No side business. It would basically be name, number, and email.

So, I know some people with them. They claim that they can be used when meeting people at a convention or a concert or whatever. The people might be potential friends, potential business contacts or potential relationships. Still I think if I was in the potential relationship category and I was handed a card, the first thing I would think was that this girl is playing the field.

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Friday, July 13, 2007 4:49 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Hi Zeek. Thanks for the kind words yesterday. Whether I deserved them or not. All I'm going to say about that today.

I must same I'm surprised to learn you are a prude...that seem right to you?


Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes. - Walt Whitman

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Friday, July 13, 2007 4:54 AM

HOBBLEIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Rhyianan:
For the hair washing question:

I do not find it pleasant at all. I absolutely hate it when someone else washes my hair, especially when they massage the scalp. This is mostly because I know that my hair becomes hopelessly tangled when someone does that and getting tangles out of waist-length hair is a pain, especially if they could have been prevented by more careful washing.



I hate people washing my hair, especially hairdressers. It always hurts my neck. And I'm not supposed to get my ear wet which makes it worse.

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Friday, July 13, 2007 4:57 AM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


Quote:

Originally posted by Kelkhil:
Whew... now I don't have to catch up!!!!!!!!!!!



me either!

I see the sense in having personal cards - in days gone by you called them 'visiting cards' and if you called in to see someone and they weren't home you would leave your card... it was the done thing...

I have two cards myself - one with my details and a photo and in tiny letters down the bottom it says nanny * baby-sitter * house-sitter and another which I made just for Dragon Con and all my US travels - it's got my Myspace and full international dialling details on it - but there's another version that just has the internet contacts and not the phone number - I will be a little discriminating as to whom i give them!

Oh and I adore having my hair washed - it's almost as good as a massage... *sighs*

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Friday, July 13, 2007 4:57 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
Hi Zeek. Thanks for the kind words yesterday. Whether I deserved them or not. All I'm going to say about that today.

I must same I'm surprised to learn you are a prude...that seem right to you?


lol I don't consider myself a prude. I'm just saying that I don't like dishonesty. I mean if I'm going to get turned on by someone I think they should know it. If I had a foot fetish or something (I don't), I wouldn't be taking a job as a shoe salesman and getting all turned on by people who have no idea what's going on. Like I said, I have no problem with strippers. There everything is plain as day about what's going on. So, if that's prudish then I guess I am, but I don't think I am.

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Friday, July 13, 2007 5:01 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
Like I said, I have no problem with strippers. There everything is plain as day about what's going on. So, if that's prudish then I guess I am, but I don't think I am.


I believe you may be the only person I have ever heard say that not having an issue with strippers makes one prudish. Ponders. Confused. Meh.


Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes. - Walt Whitman

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Friday, July 13, 2007 6:34 AM

ZEEK


jeez yesterday is all drama and today is all crickets. Come on people what's happening out there? Here I'm being bored, procrastinating and looking up trailers of mario galaxy on youtube. What's everybody else up to?

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Friday, July 13, 2007 6:40 AM

RUGBUG


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
Quote:

Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
Hi Zeek. Thanks for the kind words yesterday. Whether I deserved them or not. All I'm going to say about that today.

I must same I'm surprised to learn you are a prude...that seem right to you?


lol I don't consider myself a prude. I'm just saying that I don't like dishonesty. I mean if I'm going to get turned on by someone I think they should know it. If I had a foot fetish or something (I don't), I wouldn't be taking a job as a shoe salesman and getting all turned on by people who have no idea what's going on. Like I said, I have no problem with strippers. There everything is plain as day about what's going on. So, if that's prudish then I guess I am, but I don't think I am.



See now Zeek, it's not like you go get your hair done for the specific reason of turning you on...or even because it feels good. You go because you're getting your hair cut. They wash it as part of the deal (color HAS to be washed out...you don't get a choice). IMO, there is a big difference between getting a head massage because it's part of another service and going solely because you know it turns you on.

Or maybe there's not.

And it's crickets because I'm not here yet. Let the party begin. Seems I was able to stir up some trouble all my own. I'm apparently a very, very bad person.
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Friday, July 13, 2007 6:41 AM

HELL'S KITTEN


Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
No side business. It would basically be name, number, and email.

Hmmm... that is kind of peculiar, to me... but on the other hand, it is awfully convenient... and I suspect anyone who is overly free with their contact info for relationship purposes is going to be so with or without the convenience of a pre-fab card... *should probably not type as she thinks*. Maybe it's the fact that it's a terribly impersonal way to try to become personal with someone...? Bah. Ida know. I'm on the fence.

Since things have been a bit quiet around here *cough*, I'm going to ask a question that I like to ask all my prey sorts of people:

What are you afraid of / what frightens you?

And I'm not necessarily asking for your deepest, darkest fears, though those are gladly accepted; I'm asking about anything that scares you, be it just spiders or the thought of dying alone and unloved. Let me give you some personal examples:
* I'm afraid that when I step over the threshhold of an elevator, the cables are suddenly and inexplicably going to snap and I'm going to be mushed in two
* I cannot sit with my back to a door / open room; I always think "aces and eights" kinda thoughts (shush, my paranoia is valid)
* I am deeply afraid that the people I care about are not at all who I think they are
* I'm afraid that if I find a spider in my apartment, it's only purpose in being there is to bite me

See? Okay! Your turn!
*hopes at least someone replies so she doesn't feel like she's talking to a big void...*


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Friday, July 13, 2007 6:48 AM

FLYVOTE


Quote:

Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
Since things have been a bit quiet around here *cough*, I'm going to ask a question that I like to ask all my prey sorts of people:

What are you afraid of / what frightens you?

Unanticipated (or uninitiated) change.



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Friday, July 13, 2007 7:11 AM

RUGBUG


1. Devasting physical injury
2. Spiders in my bed
3. Home intruder
4. Green mushy foods
5. the phone :D
6. One on one situations. I much prefer groups.

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Friday, July 13, 2007 7:17 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


Quote:

Originally posted by Oddsbodskins:


Anyone else reckon the light head massage of having someone else wash your hair is one of life's little pleasures?





mmmmmmmmmm Or how about when a work mate massages your sholders in a friendly way.


mmmmmmmmmmm I used to have a friend that would rub my back for me. She was a girl and it was not sexual. Boy I miss her!


#2 and borrowed boy decided to play tag last night....in the house....at 2:24 am. So I am tired and the thought of someone washing my hair, or brushing my hair or massaging my sholders sounds like aboslute Nirvana!


eta: apparently being tired means I also can not spell!


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Friday, July 13, 2007 7:18 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Midgets.

And clowns.

Midget clowns.

Good morning everyone.

Power hugs for Mags. Misses ya woman.

Leapy hugs for Mavs, Yay on the jobiness.

Pitt hugs for 'Bug. 'Cause you really deserve them.

Oh good lord. Bouncy Tigger hugs for all. I had a very good night and wishes I had more sleep but am really glad it happened because tension between friends is the worst feeling in the 'verse.

Holy run on sentance Batman!

ADD: Some Nirvana for FMF. Luvs ya woman!

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Friday, July 13, 2007 7:20 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
*hopes at least someone replies*


Careful what you ask for...
Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
No side business. It would basically be name, number, and email.


Here's a thought. Has anyone actually tried contacting the card chick? Is the info on the card real? Is her email address: GoF**kYourself@DashedHopes.com? Just something that came to me as I imagined HK slipping her card into my eager, sweaty paws.

Quote:

Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
What are you afraid of / what frightens you?...the thought of dying alone and unloved...


Everyone dies alone. Only the few of us going to that special hell qualify for the other.

But we're not so different:
Quote:

Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
* I'm afraid that when I step over the threshhold of an elevator, the cables are suddenly and inexplicably going to snap and I'm going to be mushed in two decapitated
* I cannot sit with my back to a door / open room; I always think "aces and eights" kinda thoughts (shush, my paranoia is valid)
It's not paranoia. Outlaws naturally have this instinct. Unkle Kracker has a great song called "Aces & Eights".
* I am deeply afraid that the people I care about are not at all who I think they are

Sometimes they are not. And sometimes people you care nothing about aren't either.
* I'm afraid that if I find a spider in my apartment, it's only purpose in being there is to bite me

Never, ever pictured you as an Arachnophobe. Huh. Not with your hardware.
See? Okay! Your turn!


Gratuitous red herring shock scenes in horror movies, best exemplified by the screaming cat jumping into the screen.

Big, fat tomato worms. Also any type of bug in large quantities. This is more like a gross-out than a fear though.

That I will have missed my destiny because I didn't see it right there in front of me.


Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes. - Walt Whitman

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Friday, July 13, 2007 7:24 AM

YINYANG

You were busy trying to get yourself lit on fire. It happens.


Quote:

Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
What are you afraid of / what frightens you?



Hmm.

Okay. Here goes. Among other things:

- I'm afraid of looking stupid in front of people I respect or admire.
- I'm afraid of being crawled on or into by bugs.
- I'm frightened by being alone in a big house (the bigger the scarier).
- I'm afraid of the dark.
- I'm afraid of being in that place again.
- I'm afraid of being disingenuous.
- I'm frightened by the thought of choking on a pill, which is why I'm glad I so rarely get sick.
- I'm afraid of dogs that jump.

I think that's it for now. Yeah. Good question.

"A witty saying proves nothing." Voltaire

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Friday, July 13, 2007 7:25 AM

HOBBLEIT


Quote:

Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
What are you afraid of / what frightens you?

And I'm not necessarily asking for your deepest, darkest fears, though those are gladly accepted; I'm asking about anything that scares you, be it just spiders or the thought of dying alone and unloved. Let me give you some personal examples:
* I'm afraid that when I step over the threshhold of an elevator, the cables are suddenly and inexplicably going to snap and I'm going to be mushed in two



that scares me too.

Also:
*spiders
*teeth
*narrow, winding staircases
*large animals.

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Friday, July 13, 2007 7:29 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION



What are you afraid of / what frightens you



I will not go before my children.
My mom will not last another 40 years.
My nephew will have to go back to Iraq.
The world will find out that I am boring.
I will have to work until the day I die and will never have retirement money.
I will be alone for the rest of my life.



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Friday, July 13, 2007 7:42 AM

FLYVOTE


Quote:

Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
The world will find out that I am boring.

Not even remotely true. Even if it were true, you'd be fun to be bored with.


Edit: Oooh! Hi FMF!


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Friday, July 13, 2007 8:16 AM

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE


Hey all. I posted in the old thread and that took just about everything out of me. Been using the cane since I got out of bed this morning, so it's going to be one of those days.

Hair cuts: 30, 45 minutes tops, including the washing. I stopped coloring my hair a few years back, and my hair is thin, stick-straight, and rather short, so a cut doesn't take long at all. I've found a stylist who does a better cut for less money than anyone else I've seen, so my hair cuts are taking less time as she gets to know my hair, and as I find a style I want to keep long term. I still don't like to talk much though.

Scalp massages: I quite enjoy them (unless they're from strangers at the mall, with those weird wire thingies), and several years ago I found that a scalp massage is one of the few things that calms hubby down. Or convinces him he should get some sleep when I'm tired but he wants to stay up and play more WoW, heh. So scalp massages are my secret weapon, but hubby doesn't seem to mind.

Personal cards: Depends on the situation, I think. I could see making a special card for conferences, with your at-conference contact info, what time you were speaking if you were speaking on a panel, etc. But just, 'met somebody in a bar on a random night of the week'? That'd be a little odd. OTOH, I think "personal cards" are still used somewhat in Japan, if my Japanese language classes are anything to go by, so maybe they're more common in some circles here than others.

Fears: Being cut off from friends and family. Being unable to get to or protect my family during a crisis. Family dying suddenly. Hubby dying before me. Me dying before hubby. Finding out that my illness will kill me sooner rather than later. Bugs on me or on food. Suffocation.

Ok, out for a bit while I attempt to stand long enough to make coffee. And is it just me, or is the last topic a bit depressing? Why does the bar get "Happier Hours" and we get "what scares the crap out of you?" Heh.

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

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Friday, July 13, 2007 8:23 AM

MAVOURNEEN


Quote:

Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
What are you afraid of / what frightens you?



Clowns.
Spiders.
My son dying, either by illness or accident.
Losing my kidney and having to go through that whole dialysis/transplant crap again/being incapacitated by same.


gentle *hug* for CK.


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Friday, July 13, 2007 8:24 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by CaliforniaKaylee:
Hey all. I posted in the old thread and that took just about everything out of me.


Sorry.

EDIT: Some fears have no funny in them.


Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes. - Walt Whitman

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Friday, July 13, 2007 8:57 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Allright, ponderable time.

Something is starting to vex the hell outta my behind.

I guess my "performance" is far under par. She seems scared about the fact I take the time and space to adequetly express the physical aspect of the relationship.

My side of the argument is that I have less time to exercize and have TONS of unspent energy coupled with the hunger for true intimacy that has gone unrecognized for years.

It just feels strange to be scoring eagles for once in my life but have my partner questioning why.

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Friday, July 13, 2007 9:03 AM

ZEEK


Quote:

Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
What are you afraid of / what frightens you?


Spiders: of course I think I give them way too much credit for intelligence, but I just know they're plotting how to kill me in my sleep
Becoming my Dad: too much to get into, but let's just say he's pretty much a picture of everything I don't want to be
Losing my mind: I like my mind. If I started going insane that'd be scary.
Failing financially: I wanna be rich. If I lost my job and had to scrape by I'd just be so ticked.

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Friday, July 13, 2007 9:05 AM

MAVOURNEEN


Um, without venturing into TMI-land, or revealing anything Mindy might not want on a public thread...can you translate that into Mav speak? I don't quite get what you are talking about.

And on a completely unrelated note, I passed the background check and drug test. I report for work 9AM Monday morning.



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Friday, July 13, 2007 9:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Mavourneen:
Um, without venturing into TMI-land, or revealing anything Mindy might not want on a public thread...can you translate that into Mav speak? I don't quite get what you are talking about.

And on a completely unrelated note, I passed the background check and drug test. I report for work 9AM Monday morning.


Woooooohoooooooooo!



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Friday, July 13, 2007 9:12 AM

KELKHIL


Quote:

Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:

Since things have been a bit quiet around here *cough*, I'm going to ask a question that I like to ask all my prey sorts of people:

What are you afraid of / what frightens you?

* I'm afraid that when I step over the threshhold of an elevator, the cables are suddenly and inexplicably going to snap and I'm going to be mushed in two
* I cannot sit with my back to a door / open room; I always think "aces and eights" kinda thoughts (shush, my paranoia is valid)
* I am deeply afraid that the people I care about are not at all who I think they are
* I'm afraid that if I find a spider in my apartment, it's only purpose in being there is to bite me



Ok lets see what I got:

* Deep water. The kind where you cannot see the bottom. THat is why I learned to SCUBA Dive, so I could see the bottom.

* Not being there when I am truly needed.

* The phone ringing when I am in bed (I have more details for this one but not here)

* Loosing control. Like as in anger, or such. It takes a lot for that to happen but when it does it scares the hell out of me.

Well that is all for now.



Kelkhil

The Shirtless Forsaken


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Friday, July 13, 2007 9:20 AM

MAVOURNEEN


Quote:

Originally posted by Kelkhil:
* The phone ringing when I am in bed (I have more details for this one but not here)



I totally agree. I have either been at work, or in bed, when the call came that (insert loved one's name here) had died.

*doesn't like the phone ringing at midnight*

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Friday, July 13, 2007 9:20 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Okay Mavs. I will go until told to stop. Of course there are water breaks and the like. But seein' as I've missed two weeks of laps and bag time plus with all that has been happening in as much time and the whole happiness factor seem to have lit fires to rival those of the Forsaken pyre.

If this is the special hell than I am so enjoying the burn.

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Friday, July 13, 2007 9:23 AM

RUGBUG


Quote:

Originally posted by Mavourneen:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kelkhil:
* The phone ringing when I am in bed (I have more details for this one but not here)



I totally agree. I have either been at work, or in bed, when the call came that (insert loved one's name here) had died.

*doesn't like the phone ringing at midnight*



This I hate. Any calls after 10pm worry me. Calls later really freak me out. Also early morning calls. It can't be good if someone needs to talk to you at 6 am. Coupled with my fear of the phone and well, it's just not a happy place.

P.S. - Happy test passing. ;)

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Friday, July 13, 2007 9:23 AM

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE


Back with coffee! And cashews, yay!

Quote:

Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
Sorry.

Totally not your fault, Jonny! Most things are taking a lot out of me today -- brushing my teeth was a sheer act of will. It's not a big deal. I'll get some rest, maybe go get some sun later if I think I can get back up the stairs without the cane. My work and home situation are structured around dealing with days like this, so it's really not a big deal. I only mentioned it because I thought I was being a bit short in my replies to this thread, and wanted people to know why.

Quote:

Originally posted by JonnyQuest (in the old thread):
Quote:

Originally posted by CaliforniaKaylee (in the old thread):
(I'm having trouble with the stairs even on the best days, now).

Please tell me it's only due to the flare...

That's hard to say. It's definitely a bit worse right now, but I'm not sure if it's an overall downward trend, or something that'll reverse itself once I'm out of the flare. Walking up stairs has been an issue for awhile now -- before we bought this place, I had to tell the realtor no places with inside stairs. Outside stairs I can deal with, because I don't have to go up them all that often (another benefit of working from home). But at that point, about 18 months ago, stairs were just exhausting, and would make me hurt worse if I was already hurting. Now there's physical pain in my knees when I walk up stairs even when I'm pain free immediately before and after, like bone grinding on bone. So it's slow and painful, but I can manage still. I keep telling hubby he should go up the stairs first, but he prefers just to walk slowly behind me, and make comments about my butt all the way up, lol.

NVG, I'm not sure I followed everything you're saying there, but if I get what you're saying... Maybe she's questioning because she's had some bad sexual experiences in recent years? This is the same woman who was assaulted a few months back, right? And her marriage has been bad? So maybe she's not used to being that appreciated/cherished in bed? I know some women who go through things like that can shut down emotionally on all sorts of intimacy, so it may be throwing her for a loop. If that's the case, I would say just try to convince her that you're doing what you're doing because you want to, not because you expect anything from her, and that it's an expression of how you feel about her. It may take some time for her to get used to it, but I would say don't take the questioning and uncertainty personally.

Unless of course I completely misunderstood "performance", "physical aspect", "true intimacy", and "scoring eagles." If I did, then disregard the above, lol.

Yay, Mavs! Congrats!

Ok, still kinda in a funk about the "what are you scared of" topic, so here are some things I'm not afraid of: Heights. Enclosed spaces. Crowds. Public speaking. Boats. Germs. (Some people who know hubby and I irl think we're germaphobes, but we're not. I just have a healthy respect for what they can do to me. Practicing gun safety doesn't mean you're afraid of guns, it just means that you recognize what kind of damage they can do. I see being careful about the germs on my hands as the same thing.) Hmmm, what else? Airplanes, horses, rollercoasters, needles...

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

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Friday, July 13, 2007 9:23 AM

HOBBLEIT


Well I am off now.

See you all later

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Friday, July 13, 2007 9:29 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by nvghostrider:
Okay Mavs. I will go until told to stop. Of course there are water breaks and the like.


Okay, and this is a problem?
Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:
Losing my mind: I like my mind. If I started going insane that'd be scary.


No it wouldn't. You don't feel it happening. Simon is wrong.

*JQ says, "Woooooohoooooooooo!" for no apparent reason*

Quote:

Originally posted by Kelkhil:
* Loosing control. Like as in anger, or such. It takes a lot for that to happen but when it does it scares the hell out of me.


*Doesn't ever want to see that happen. (Pictures Mal clubbing Jayne with a wrench or Mal standing over Niska asking if he wants to meet the real him now)*



Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes. - Walt Whitman

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Friday, July 13, 2007 9:33 AM

KELKHIL


Quote:

Originally posted by JonnyQuest:

Quote:

Originally posted by Kelkhil:
* Loosing control. Like as in anger, or such. It takes a lot for that to happen but when it does it scares the hell out of me.


*Doesn't ever want to see that happen. (Pictures Mal clubbing Jayne with a wrench or Mal standing over Niska asking if he wants to meet the real him now)*



Nah, more of the "I'm gonna have to go with Wrath!"

Not a pretty sight.

Kelkhil

The Shirtless Forsaken


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Friday, July 13, 2007 9:39 AM

MAVOURNEEN


Quote:

Originally posted by nvghostrider:
]Okay Mavs. I will go until told to stop. Of course there are water breaks and the like. But seein' as I've missed two weeks of laps and bag time plus with all that has been happening in as much time and the whole happiness factor seem to have lit fires to rival those of the Forsaken pyre.

If this is the special hell than I am so enjoying the burn.



*blinks a few times*

Ah. Um. Yeah, that could be a problem, actually. The key that you said is "until told to stop." At that point (speaking purely hypothetically, were it me...) I would be waaaay past the point of being comfortable and wouldn't want to hurt your feelings, but would need...stoppage.

I guess, all I can say, is keep that in mind, and ...um...hurry things along?

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Friday, July 13, 2007 9:44 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:

Originally posted by CaliforniaKaylee:
I keep telling hubby he should go up the stairs first, but he prefers just to walk slowly behind me, and make comments about my butt all the way up, lol.


Evil, evil man...

Here's to a relatively painless weekend.

*still scratching head over NVG's "problem". suddenly spots steadily growing line of lady Browncoats outside the Wigwam*

Lucky duck.


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Friday, July 13, 2007 9:57 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Not sure how to hurry things along. Seems there is a total new set of sensations and feelings that have never been present before. As for the stoppage, there is some discomfort. This feels like a very humbling experience. I don't have to lead or follow. just listen. It's nice.

(Wonders about the line JQ mentioned)
I have been accused of being a whore recently. Knew I shoulda took the Browncoat Man whore position when I had the chance.

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Friday, July 13, 2007 10:04 AM

FLYVOTE


Quote:

Originally posted by nvghostrider:
Not sure how to hurry things along.

Practice. It sounds like I might be saying that in jest, but I'm not.



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Friday, July 13, 2007 10:09 AM

MAVOURNEEN


Quote:

Originally posted by nvghostrider:
Not sure how to hurry things along. Seems there is a total new set of sensations and feelings that have never been present before. As for the stoppage, there is some discomfort. This feels like a very humbling experience. I don't have to lead or follow. just listen. It's nice.



Just went outside to rake some leaves, and also had this thought. Were it me, and, um, things were taking some time...I would start to wonder if I wasn't helping "get the job done."

And for something funny, my dog is chasing a fly around the room. It landed on the big plate glass window in my living room, and he just bonked his head trying desperately to get the fly.

I laughed.

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Friday, July 13, 2007 10:38 AM

MAVOURNEEN


And this, folks, may be my last post for a while. Or perhaps, just for a few days.

I rarely post over the weekend, and will start the new job on Monday. Posting will be non existent, at least for a while.

My email box is open 24/7.

I hope to see you all again very soon. If not, I will miss you terribly. I will try to check in when I can, or perhaps have someone - nudge, nudge, - will post for me by proxy. We'll see.

*hug* and to my Browncoat friends.

-Maura

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Friday, July 13, 2007 10:44 AM

FLYVOTE


Quote:

Originally posted by Mavourneen:
And this, folks, may be my last post for a while. Or perhaps, just for a few days.

I rarely post over the weekend, and will start the new job on Monday. Posting will be non existent, at least for a while.

My email box is open 24/7.

I hope to see you all again very soon. If not, I will miss you terribly. I will try to check in when I can, or perhaps have someone - nudge, nudge, - will post for me by proxy. We'll see.

*hug* and to my Browncoat friends.

-Maura

Take care, Maura. Enjoy your new job. We'll hold.



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Friday, July 13, 2007 11:18 AM

HELL'S KITTEN


Quote:

Originally posted by CaliforniaKaylee:
Ok, still kinda in a funk about the "what are you scared of" topic,

*frowns*
okay... wasn't supposed to be sooo serious... was kinda hoping for some responses along the lines of nvg's "clown midgets" to mix into it.... maybe it was the wrong time to bring it up *cough*, but i always find information like this fascinating, not doomy...

JQ: yeah, yeah, "everyone dies alone" blah blah blah. it's a great quote, well delivered. but not entirely true. there is a huge difference, in my mind, to being in a hospital room all by yourself as you die, and being surrounded by people who care about you.

*sigh* not even gonna address nvg's ponderable because i imagine it would be viewed as an insult... so now that i've brought everyone down... ima go away. have a good weekend.

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Friday, July 13, 2007 11:20 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


I so appreciate the advice of all you incredible Browncoats.

I'm sure CK that most of what is going on with her right now is of the emotional sort. I'm trying not to push too much but there was a discussion about stepping up last night that made sense. I don't want any control over her, but she does want me to jump up and do without question much the way I had a few years ago. She is coming in from a rainy marriage. She tried whereas her husband seemed to take her for granted and ignored her womanly virtue with the exception of the rare occasion when it suited him to pay attention to her.

Mavs, I think alot of it has to do with some of my own hangups. Emotionally it is a fear of mine to make illegitimate children. Being a man who didn't know his sperm donor plays a bit on the mind and heart. Not that I could ignore a child I helped make. But there is always the fear and it never really subsides. There is also the part of me that can't relax enough to just let go. I can see major differences after each time we are together. Each time is more relaxed and loving than the last. I'm not stressing it. But how much more intense and intimate can it get?

ADD: Gotta go pay some bills. Catch y'all on the flip side.

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