Goodbye to the Verse?

UPDATED: Friday, April 6, 2007 06:02
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Friday, April 6, 2007 1:33 AM


Just a thought which I'm sure someone has raised before but is it possible that by killing off Book and especially Wash Joss was actually trying to tell us he's done with the verse?
any thoughts/
I hope i'm wrong but.....

He's lookin to shoot some folk!


Friday, April 6, 2007 1:51 AM


Welcome Bigman. I think you can rest assured that Joss is not finished with us or the 'Verse. He is working on a new series of graphic novels continuing the story.

I think he has made it pretty clear he is finished with television as a medium.

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Friday, April 6, 2007 3:20 AM


I dont know Joss but I find it hard to believe he is finnished the TV , given it is the medium that made him famous and won over all us Joss-crazed fans.

What I think is more likely is that he will be very particular with the networks he chooses to be involved with. He has said he DOES NOT want to go through the heart-ache of firefly again and I can understand that.


Friday, April 6, 2007 5:49 AM


Nah killing Wash and Book was just his way. Joss likes killing people we like. Check the body count for Buffy and Angel for many examples. And he has stated that for any sequels both Book and Wash could return. He's very vague about how but he says he knows a way and that it doesn't involve magic.


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Friday, April 6, 2007 5:55 AM


I don't think he said he was done with television, he said television was done with him. He still wants to work in television, just not at the moment, I think. He did say in a recent interview that as much as he's enjoying working on the BUFFY comics, he'd rather it were in a live action form. I'm sure he feels the same way with FIREFLY/SERENITY.

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Friday, April 6, 2007 6:02 AM


I do remember Joss saying in an interview that he couldn't work with TV any more because of the way it's run. He creates characters with histories and personalities and stories that need to be told in the long term. He's invested in what happens. So he just can't walk into a studio every year, throw dozens of ideas at them and hope they'll run with one of them.

I think losing Firefly was a real blow to him. Here was a show he had successfully pitched, but that was then sabotaged from the very beginning. Even Buffy and Angel didn't have to deal with the level of meddling Firefly got stuck with.

After Firefly and Angel were cancelled Joss did make it clear that he was through with TV - to the point of disbanding Mutant Enemy. Still, it was a bad experience with movies (Buffy, ironically) that drove him to TV in the first place. He may come back Although I think he's enjoying working with comics too much right now.

All that being said, if someone - anyone - came to Joss and said "Hey, you know that show you made the movie about? Would you mind making that show for us?" I think he'd be there in a heartbeat.

As for killing characters we like, yes that is indeed Joss' way. He's dealt with loss in real life (as most people have) and as a writer he prefers to explore people's reaction to genuine grief rather than some cousin from somewhere who shows up for one episode and promptly dies. Popular, well-loved people aren't immune from death in real life, so they're so safer in the Jossverse. He doesn't want to give us a sad scene. He wants to smash our hearts into a million tiny pieces.

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