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New Theory Regarding the 'Verse'

POSTED BY: COEL
UPDATED: Friday, April 6, 2007 15:16
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Thursday, April 5, 2007 7:06 PM

COEL



What if the "Verse" is a system composed of 19 regular stars orbiting a quark star?


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Friday, April 6, 2007 12:54 AM

TDBROWN


-Then Quark would probably charge an outrageous rental fee....

oops! Wrong series

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Friday, April 6, 2007 12:59 AM

SKYWALKEN


Quote:

Originally posted by Coel:
What if the "Verse" is a system composed of 19 regular stars orbiting a quark star?



Please elaborate more on this theory.

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Friday, April 6, 2007 4:24 AM

DONCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by Skywalken:
Quote:

Originally posted by Coel:
What if the "Verse" is a system composed of 19 regular stars orbiting a quark star?



Please elaborate more on this theory.

Yes, yes, do tell.

How did you arrive at the number 19? I've thought about the 'verse being possibly a binary or trinary system, but why 19 stars?


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Friday, April 6, 2007 4:43 AM

TINADOLL


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Originally posted by TDBrown:
-Then Quark would probably charge an outrageous rental fee....

oops! Wrong series



haha! Good one



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Friday, April 6, 2007 5:48 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


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Originally posted by TDBrown:
-Then Quark would probably charge an outrageous rental fee....

oops! Wrong series :


Ya beat me to it.

Way wrong series, too. I was thinking of the ancient, and short-lived sit-com thing with Richard Benjamin.

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Friday, April 6, 2007 6:58 AM

WHODIED


I would think the number of stars orbiting the quark is incidental. It could help explain the distribution of heat and light.

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Friday, April 6, 2007 8:08 AM

CRUITHNE3753


I myself was picturing a few red dwarfs orbiting a normal O or F class central star (our sun is a G class).

The core worlds would be orbiting the main star, whilst the outer worlds would be orbiting the red dwarfs. Think of our own Solar System inflated somewhat, with the planets Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune replaced with red dwarf stars. The main sours of bright illumination would be from the main star, the IR from the nearby red dwarfs providing heat.

Quark stars are hypothetical anyway, being slightly denser than neutron stars, only just on the edge of collapsing into a black hole.

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Friday, April 6, 2007 11:53 AM

COEL


Remember the big map the teacher was standing in front of in "Serenity"? 19 celestrial bodies orbiting a 20th.

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Friday, April 6, 2007 12:03 PM

COEL


There are over 70 "Earths". Even if the 'Verse was a binary or even a trinary system, that's a whole lot of Earths.

The teacher's map in the movie could also be just showing the "capital" world of each star orbiting the hypermass. There might be more than 19 stars (binaries or trinaries) too.

Quark stars are supposed to be a kind of neutron star, and a little safer to be around. It could also be made out of strange or dark matter as well.


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Friday, April 6, 2007 12:56 PM

CAPTAINCOUPI


I've been having a look at the Verse Map based on the one from the series over at SerenityStuff.com to see if I can make any sense of it and maybe get a clue.

http://www.serenitystuff.com/category/free-stuff/



As far as I can tell the planets are orbiting around nothing!?!? I can't make much sense of it.

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Friday, April 6, 2007 1:27 PM

COEL


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As far as I can tell the planets are orbiting around nothing!?!? I can't make much sense of it.



All the maps I've seen are pretty much useless. The Serenity RPG map seems to indicate that there are more than one star in the 'Verse and at least one rogue planet (Angel) that's all by itself.

Another thing, if everybody is in the same system, then how everybody "forgot" Miranda? I assume that people are still using telescopes to navigate and there are tens of thousands of telescopes in use at any one moment. The only way to "hide" Miranda would be to have it in a marginal system where nobody goes that often.

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Friday, April 6, 2007 1:29 PM

SIGMANUNKI


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Originally posted by Coel:

The teacher's map in the movie could also be just showing the "capital" world of each star orbiting the hypermass. There might be more than 19 stars (binaries or trinaries) too.




The way this was explained and what was shown, this is not possible. One system, that's they way it is.

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Friday, April 6, 2007 1:31 PM

SIGMANUNKI


Quote:

Originally posted by Coel:

The only way to "hide" Miranda would be to have it in a marginal system where nobody goes that often.




Or call it a dead rock. Why go to a dead rock? One that can't support life?

After all, the Alliance is trusted by those with the means to explore. But, those that don't trust them are living hand to mouth. So, they aren't exactly in a place to go on flights of fancy.

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Friday, April 6, 2007 1:39 PM

CITIZEN


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Originally posted by Coel:
Another thing, if everybody is in the same system, then how everybody "forgot" Miranda? I assume that people are still using telescopes to navigate and there are tens of thousands of telescopes in use at any one moment. The only way to "hide" Miranda would be to have it in a marginal system where nobody goes that often.

Well there is mention of Nav Sats in Out of Gas. I suspect that there is a grid of Satellites that hold perhaps a fixed position in relation to the parent star that ships use to navigate a series of space lanes.

And I imagine that every astronomer knows of the existence of miranda, like everyone who studies a map can find this or that Island, but that doesn't mean they know it was a habitable planet.



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Friday, April 6, 2007 1:52 PM

NBZ


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After all, the Alliance is trusted by those with the means to explore. But, those that don't trust them are living hand to mouth. So, they aren't exactly in a place to go on flights of fancy.


and those that don't trust the government become a feast.

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Friday, April 6, 2007 2:18 PM

SIGMANUNKI


Quote:

Originally posted by nbz:

and those that don't trust the government become a feast.




Indeed!

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Friday, April 6, 2007 3:16 PM

COEL


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And I imagine that every astronomer knows of the existence of miranda, like everyone who studies a map can find this or that Island, but that doesn't mean they know it was a habitable planet.



You're going to need a telescope because radar is only good for close range stuff. And you're going to need a reflection spectra analyzer to tell you what any object in your sights is made out of.

Miranda has a breathable atmosphere and water. There are obvious high albedo signatures that scream glass and aluminum siding and open pit mining and other things. Also thirty million dead people should leave some chemical signatures for at least a decade.

Amateur astronomers can tell from Earth what's habitable or uninhabitable. Therefore, Miranda has to be stashed away somewhere where nobody visits much (this means that the Reavers might have teritory equal to our Solar system).

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