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Mal's suspenders, do y'all like the thin ones from FF, or the more 3-D-like ones from Serenity?

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Sunday, December 10, 2006 3:12 PM

CHRISISALL


Well don't look at me like that, I'm SURE that SOME Browncoats out there feel this is worth discussin'!

(I like the movie ones, BTW.)

Let the angry rants begin Chrisisall


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Sunday, December 10, 2006 3:32 PM

DREADPIRATE


I am shocked that more people haven't posted to this thread because, frankly, it's one of the best topic titles I've ever seen. Mal's suspenders have been a topic of constant discourse between my friends and me. They all make fun of me because I love his suspenders so damn much while they all think they're really dorky. Maybe it's because we all were forced to wear suspenders in marching band.

I think I'd choose the fancy futuristic movie suspenders.

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Sunday, December 10, 2006 4:13 PM

JUGGERNAUT


Gah -- don't even get me started on the movie suspenders. They were the one -- THE ONE -- thing I didn't like about the big-screen adaptation.

To me, they screamed too loudly, "Look! It's not the present or the wild west -- it's the future, because they don't have suspenders like that nowadays."

They seemed impractical, overly designed and didn't fit in with the rough-and-tumble style of functional clothing everyone wears. It'd be different if they harkened to some kind of web gear or something, but, nope, they were just Future Space Suspenders.

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Sunday, December 10, 2006 4:21 PM

DREADPIRATE


Hee hee! I guess that's a good point, as it was also something my ex-boyfriend used to complain about when we watched the show. He'd say, "They just put that in to look like the future. There's no practical application for something like that at any time!" But what can I say? I'm a sucker for aesthetics.

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Sunday, December 10, 2006 4:36 PM

REDLAVA


To be honest I never even noticed a difference between the series and the movie. Darn. Now I am going to have to rewatch both to see what everybody is talking about.





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Sunday, December 10, 2006 4:39 PM

NCBROWNCOAT


I can't agree with you more Juggenaut. I HATED the movie suspenders.

The ones in the BDS were so much more in character for Mal-pratical functional and Oh so sexy!




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Sunday, December 10, 2006 4:42 PM

FLORALBUNNY


Mal's movie suspenders?
Ick. Just ick.
They are so....faux.
Look as if they'd smell funny if they got hot.
Or you could sit and stab holes in them if bored.
Man needs something to hold up his pants?
Fine.
Gorramn things don't have to look "chunky."
Or however you'd say they look.
FF suspenders look as if they're enough to do the job.
Not overkill.

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Sunday, December 10, 2006 5:24 PM

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When it comes to the captain's galluses I choose the originals. They looked good. The movie ones made me cringe.

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Sunday, December 10, 2006 5:50 PM

EMMAPEEL


Yeah I definitely preferred the FF suspenders. I didn't cringe or anything for the serenity ones, but the older ones looked more rough and western. They didn't scream woohoo we made a movie and see look those suspenders prove he's a space cowboy!

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Sunday, December 10, 2006 5:53 PM

SCARECROW866


I also vote for the TV series suspenders. Even liked better the original shirts with just the regular buttons. The movie suspenders was too fancy and the movie shirts had these fancy clasps too.

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Sunday, December 10, 2006 5:53 PM

THEFIREFLYSERENITY


I think the ones form BDM are made out of rubber or something... I like those ones the best!

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Sunday, December 10, 2006 6:00 PM

ASORTAFAIRYTALE


Quote:

Originally posted by dreadpirate:
they all think they're really dorky. Maybe it's because we all were forced to wear suspenders in marching band.



Hehe, I agree with this, I think its safe to say that pretty much everyone here is a "geek", so we wouldn't really be bothered by them...and I do have to wear suspenders for band...
But, yeah, I would have to say that I perfer the ones from the series. They just seem to fit the western portion of it better, and that's really the part that makes Firefly/Serenity different from other sci-fi shows.

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Sunday, December 10, 2006 6:49 PM

YINYANG

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I think I like the originals better, mostly because of the comments exchanged between Mal and Inara:

Inara: I understand if you need to go prepare for that "It's 10 in the morning" issue.

Mal: Yeah. Better go do that. 'Cause I think this
is more of an evening look.

And, at some point, he snaps the suspenders. So, yeah, I like the originals, just because of the history, and... because I don't remember what the movie ones look like.

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Sunday, December 10, 2006 7:02 PM

TRISTAN


I am a big fan of the ones from the series...even built myself a pair to go along with the Mal costume! I thought the ones in the movie resembled a fan belt from a car...

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Sunday, December 10, 2006 7:39 PM

JLIN


Quote:

Originally posted by scarecrow866:
I also vote for the TV series suspenders. Even liked better the original shirts with just the regular buttons. The movie suspenders was too fancy and the movie shirts had these fancy clasps too.



I vote for the FF Suspenders too, they look much better with the western theme. I didn't notice the change in the shirt, I think I'll go pop in Serenity right now!

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Sunday, December 10, 2006 7:39 PM

JUGGERNAUT


Yay! I'm glad the fanbase hasn't blacklisted me for thinking Mal's Spenders o' the Future overdesigned and cheesy....

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Sunday, December 10, 2006 8:25 PM

NOSADSEVEN


I fell in love with Mal's canvass suspenders... The way they widened at the shoulders, the little cross piece in the back, the texture of the fabric. IIRC, they were WWII suspenders, and that kind of history - a soldier's suspenders - just was another way Mal's costume spoke of his character.

I liked his thin leather ones, too. For when he was going all... incognito.

Hated the rubber movie ones. Hated all the little rubber appliques in his costume, especially the ones on his pants. I could accept the one on the coat, if I write it off as a mend. The shirts were ok, though I still prefer the simplicity of the buttons.

But all that rubber...when he walks away from Simon at the end of the one-er, he squeaks!

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Sunday, December 10, 2006 8:45 PM

BABYWITHTHEPOWER


Quote:

Originally posted by Juggernaut:
Gah -- don't even get me started on the movie suspenders. They were the one -- THE ONE -- thing I didn't like about the big-screen adaptation.



Really? I had a bigger problem with the modifications they made to his coat. What was up with the crap on the shoulder?

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Sunday, December 10, 2006 8:57 PM

MCQ


Well I really liked the movie and all, but those suspenders just killed it for me. What was Joss thinking!?! First Book, then Wash - did he have to kill the suspenders too?!? Is nothing sacred? Oh well, at least he didn't make the mule look more or less like a VW Thing.



Then again...maybe he did?

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Monday, December 11, 2006 1:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by McQ:
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Monday, December 11, 2006 1:32 PM

SHAMELESS


Yup, prefer the show suspenders. Don't have a big problem with the coat and the shirts, and can't remember what the pants look like. Honestly, I couldn't remember any difference anyways, so obviously, the change wasn't enough to actively bother me, which is good. I had to look at screencaps to know what you guys were talking about. But yeah, the rubber in the movie looks awkward and clunky and uncomfortable - very uncomfortable - and it makes me think of a giant zip tie or some other thing that would go on a robot. Or a car. Or an engine.

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Monday, December 11, 2006 1:33 PM

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The series' version, all the way.

They were just so gosh darn cute. If I want space-agey stuff, I'll go watch BSG or Babylon 5 (not meaning any offense to those shows, I happen to be a fan of B5). I think the old suspenders reflect the western-y feel of the show, which you lost a great deal of in the film.

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Monday, December 11, 2006 1:57 PM

BOOMERGOODHEART


Loved the series suspenders; hated the movie ones. And what was the dealio with that thing Wash was wearing in the movie? I cringe everytime I see it! Less crap, more loud shirts!!

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Monday, December 11, 2006 2:01 PM

TRAVELER



Shiny.


I aim for the original suspenders.
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Monday, December 11, 2006 2:09 PM

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Suspenders?

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Edit:
Quote:

Originally posted by McQ:
No animals were harmed while making this post.

We probably can't say the same about the making of the suspenders...


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Monday, December 11, 2006 2:17 PM

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HATED the movie suspenders, they look like tire treads, ridiculous. The series suspenders look more like real suspenders.

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Monday, December 11, 2006 3:10 PM

STINKINGROSE


Well, practically speaking..the movie rubber suspenders (braces, whatever)would slip around on your shirt less,and would cut into your shoulders less when your gunbelt was dragging your pants down. (Just ask any woman who's worn a brassiere with thin straps).
Still think they look like part of a belt out of the engine he scavenged after it snapped on Kaylee one day. Or he mugged a kid for their Tonka truck.

The series set had style, panache, character. They lay better on the shoulders. Probably gave him a wedgie or something.

I decided that he had been shot in the arm at some point while wearing his brown coat and that pathetic patch job was the best he could do.
MAN was that ugly! I shudder every time I think of it. Looks like he tried to sew it shut, then when that didn't work he hit it with epoxy or something.
See? You can make a story to explain almost anything. (It's just not reading, can you make it bigger? Really scuff it up? No, bigger. More batchelory.)

The shirt? The movie shirt looked a little more dapper than usual with the fasteners and change in cut. The series shirt looked more homespun. Except that grey metallic polo/izod/garanamals thing he wore to the space bazaar. Ick. It looked scratchy.

Sorry. I'm coming off as a terrible costume snob, aren't I? Never ask for my opinion, you'll probably get it.





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Monday, December 11, 2006 3:23 PM

FLORALBUNNY


BoomerGoodheart wrote:
Monday, December 11, 2006 13:57
Loved the series suspenders; hated the movie ones. And what was the dealio with that thing Wash was wearing in the movie? I cringe everytime I see it! Less crap, more loud shirts!!
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So right, BG. The cringe-worthy Wash-wear must
be a hard-copy of somebody's B&D or S&M dreams.

And no, the rubber deco on the sacred Coat is
*not* excusable. We know what a mend should
look like; there's one on the upper left arm
after (and sometimes before -- heh) Patience
wings the Captain on Whitefall.

Series suspenders were canvas. One hopes no
animals suffered in their making.



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Monday, December 11, 2006 3:32 PM

YINYANG

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Quote:

Originally posted by traveler:

Shiny.


I aim for the original suspenders.
Traveler



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Monday, December 11, 2006 3:46 PM

RMMC


Oh, shiny piccy, Traveler.

Series suspenders were much better. The movie ones looked like they were made from cargo straps. Bleech!



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Monday, December 11, 2006 3:47 PM

TRAVELER


Hello Yinyang:

Hey! Who knows what every woman on this site really wants to see? Of course with the proper suspenders.


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Monday, December 11, 2006 3:49 PM

SERGEANTX


LIke almost everything else, I like the suspenders from the series better. They were supposed to be throwbacks, not futuristic silliness.


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Tuesday, December 12, 2006 5:10 AM

LASCHA


Heck yes... FF suspenders all the way. I generally avoid the movie like the plague, and those weird, rubbery suspenders are one of the main reasons. /shudder/

"This is more of an evening look." *snaps suspenders*

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