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The new VOTING Thread!

POSTED BY: TPAGE
UPDATED: Monday, December 4, 2006 01:53
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Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:41 AM

TPAGE


OK, since we have two REALLY long threads around here to make Firefly number 1, I thought I would combine them and create one single thread.

Previous threads can be found here:
http://www.fireflyfan.net/thread.asp?b=9&t=24310#410650
http://www.fireflyfan.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=24346#410502

And remember the link you should be paying attention to is: http://richlabonte.net/tvvote/index.html

Lastly, DECEMBER 1st is VOTING DAY! Cast your ballot, if only this once.



And if someday on some little piss-ant moon/My hand is a little too slow, or my aim a little bit off/At least I’ll go down fighting, not lying abed surrounded by quacks - "Sir Warrick" by Geezer

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Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:53 AM

JADEHAND


thanks for speeding up the load times.

Current totals:
SHOW / VOTES - Total Top 40 votes recorded as of 11/15/06
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Xena: Warrior Princess 147377
Bonanza 110880
La Femme Nikita 85896
Farscape 79047
Firefly 67227
Gunsmoke 56301
Queer as Folk 55032
Roswell 48227



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It's as simple as that
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Make sense of it again."
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visit WWW.Marillion.com for a better way of life.

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Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:58 AM

DERANGEDMILK


Good job TPage, I was literally making a new one when I saw this.

If you don't know already, you can vote once an hour. We are currently in fifth place behind Farscape, Le Lame Nikita, Bonanza, and Xena: Warrior Princess, but just a month or so ago we were in eighth place. WE ARE ADVANCING AND PULLING IN THE MOST VOTES PER DAY!

Just yesterday we pulled in over 800 votes for the first time and frankly I don't see why we, the most devoted fan base in all of fandom can't pull in over 1000 a day. Plus, some tips for getting in extra votes include:
1) if you have a wireless card and live in the city or an apartment complex, or maybe even suburbia, try picking up someone else's signal and voting from there (I'm able to get in two an hour instead of just one)
2)Vote from home/vote from work/vote from cell phone
3)get friends to vote/vote on friends computers
4)spread the word to other firefly boards

And if you need the extra encouragement to go vote, someone over on the Bonaza boards was gloating about how they "stepped on Firefly." I ain't gonna let that one slide.

VOTE BROWNCOATS!!!!
-e


"Storms getting worse."
"We'll pass through it soon enough."

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Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:00 AM

TPAGE


By the way... voted... and bump!



And if someday on some little piss-ant moon/My hand is a little too slow, or my aim a little bit off/At least I’ll go down fighting, not lying abed surrounded by quacks - "Sir Warrick" by Geezer

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Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:22 AM

CANTER


Quote:

Originally posted by derangedmilk:

And if you need the extra encouragement to go vote, someone over on the Bonaza boards was gloating about how they "stepped on Firefly." I ain't gonna let that one slide.



Excuse me?! They said what? In what universe could Bonanza geezers ever "step" on Browncoats?
I'd like to see them try!
They obviously have no idea who they're dealing with.
Damn cowboys

I agree with your advice. And spread the word to other boards. And to fans not on the internet. phone, cajole, e-mail.

We're slowly getting in more and more votes. In October we were averaging about 550 a day. We're now regularly getting in the high 700s. That must surely be attributed to more awareness.

VOTE DAY 1 DECEMBER 2006
We'll surely rise.

Burn the land and boil the sea...

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Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:52 AM

ATIGDNG




I vote daily, a bad day gives me 5 votes, a good one upwards to 14 votes a day. And I have been spreading the news... We have been gaining on Bonanza since I first found this place out so they have no right to talk like that!

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Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:55 AM

KINGKAI


bump!

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Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:40 AM

DERANGEDMILK


Quote:

Originally posted by Canter:
Excuse me?! They said what? In what universe could Bonanza geezers ever "step" on Browncoats?
I'd like to see them try!
They obviously have no idea who they're dealing with.
Damn cowboys



My thoughts exactly!!! Just got in my 8th vote today...BUM-DUMP.
-e

"Storms getting worse."
"We'll pass through it soon enough."

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Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:48 AM

SISTER


Yay!...new thread...voted and BUMPED

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Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:24 AM

FLATTOP


OK, found the new thread.
I'll start postin' over here instead.

Stepped on Firefly eh?
In the last 35 (I don't always get Saturdays) days they've pulled in more votes than us only 4 times.

Everyone out there go back inside; or I will blow a new crater into this little moon.

Perhaps my data has somehow been corrupted...
Does anyone else have a track of Bonanza's & our numbers?

Well folks, it seems the Bonanzai have us right where we want them. Time to pull out the stops and introduce them to the inevitable. We spotted them a few 10's of thousands of votes. Let's take 'em back.

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Aww hell, I'm a big fan of all seven.

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Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:55 AM

SISTER


Yee-HAW....voted/bumped...LOVE the new votie site

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Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:19 AM

TPAGE


When I think back to when I started voted (early October or so) and how we weren't even close to being in the top 5 (I believe we were in about 7th or 8th place) and I look how we are over 10,000 votes ahead of the next closest competitor now I ... I am simply astounded!

In such little time Firefly has shot ahead and we've shown no signs of slowing, only speeding up!

This time we're not the losing side!



And if someday on some little piss-ant moon/My hand is a little too slow, or my aim a little bit off/At least I’ll go down fighting, not lying abed surrounded by quacks - "Sir Warrick" by Geezer

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Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:30 AM

FLATTOP


Quick bump before I go home...

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Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:51 AM

DERANGEDMILK


Flattop, you seem to be the one crunching the numbers, is there a way to calculate our rate of acceleration in votes per day and then see how long until we take first? It seems like it won't be long before we hit 900 a day and then 1000 a day. At the rate, could we be in first by early next year?

Anyway, vote number 10 for me....BUMP!
-e

"Storms getting worse."
"We'll pass through it soon enough."

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Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:26 AM

SISTER


Wheee....home now; voting more and giving it a little BUMP-a-Rooty!

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Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:09 PM

DAVESHAYNE


Bump?

David

"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de

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Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:11 PM

FLATTOP


Quote:

Originally posted by derangedmilk:
Flattop, you seem to be the one crunching the numbers, is there a way to calculate our rate of acceleration in votes per day and then see how long until we take first? It seems like it won't be long before we hit 900 a day and then 1000 a day. At the rate, could we be in first by early next year?

Anyway, vote number 10 for me....BUMP!
-e

"Storms getting worse."
"We'll pass through it soon enough."

Dec 1st: Big Damn Browncoat Vote http://richlabonte.net/tvvote/index.html




Shiney A new number crunch! I'm sitting at home now, and the trendsheet is (of course) at work, so I won't be able to play with it until tomorrow...
Short answer: Yes.
Longer answer: As the projections are extended further into the future, and are required to cover a greater span of votes, they become decreasingly stable given the small sample period currently trended.
Painfully long answer:
There are a bunch of variables that I cannot currently account for, like:
Thanksgiving break next week. Will we get more votes because students are not in class & can vote regularly? Or do we get fewer votes because corporate types such as myself no longer have access to multiple machines?
That goes for pretty much all of the holidays. Christmas, New Years, Summer break, Euro-holidays... Perhaps there is some seasonality trend as well (is Serenifly more poplular during the winter when folks are indoors more or...?)
Do the Princess' and Bonanzai experience the same trends? Or do they have a different demographic that is more/less stable?

OK, there're my disclaimers. I'm more than happy to do the projections, but they are just computer aided guestimations 'k? I'll update them semi-regular as more data comes available (time passes and variables get accounted for).

Quote:

...At the rate, could we be in first by early next year?


Not likely. Even if they quit voting. By early next year we should be in the number 3 slot, and closing. Current projections show Bonanza passing Xena before we catch them, but that's a long range projection based on a linear model (seemed reasonable at the time), with the new projection... we'll see.

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Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:30 PM

SISTER


..voted/bump

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Wednesday, November 15, 2006 1:36 PM

DERANGEDMILK


I thought your answer would be something like that, but still, that guesstimation would be cool to see.
Its comforting to know that a lot of those variables could work in our favor though. As a student I know the upcoming holidays will mean more votes out of me, plus we have Dec 1st to look forward to!
KEEP VOTING!
-e

"Storms getting worse."
"We'll pass through it soon enough."

Dec 1st: Big Damn Browncoat Vote http://richlabonte.net/tvvote/index.html

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Wednesday, November 15, 2006 3:08 PM

ASORTAFAIRYTALE


Voting and bumping!

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Wednesday, November 15, 2006 4:22 PM

FLATTOP


Bump!
Vote!


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Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:04 PM

DERANGEDMILK


bump

"Storms getting worse."
"We'll pass through it soon enough."

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Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:31 PM

STOWEAWAY


Last vote for me tonight

BUMP

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Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:04 PM

EVILBUNGLE


Up and forth vote over in the UK

loving the new thread, I was going to make one but couldn't find the other thread!

I have a very basic spreadsheet that calculates days to overtake and increase on votes (only from my first vote mid-late october) I have our Average rising from 650ish to 700ish a day (I don't have full figures broken each day hence the confusion) that puts us third by new year but will give us a very hard couple of years to gain on Xena and Bonanza. If we can hit 1000 a day (not sure it is possible but spread the word) we can be first by June (assuming the Bonanza boys don't step up their campaign)

Surely though we have the greatest chance as all the Bonanza fans will be moving into retirement homes soon!!
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Thursday, November 16, 2006 1:03 AM

FLATTOP


Bump and then off to work.

VOTE!

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Thursday, November 16, 2006 1:22 AM

QUIETUDE


Can't believe Xena is No.1, I am from New Zealand and thought it was a good show, but it isn't anywhere near as good as Firefly. Who is voting for it?!!

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Thursday, November 16, 2006 1:24 AM

EVILBUNGLE


Apparently they new about it for a year before everyone else or something, they still have the on average the third most support so they have some support but that is why they are so far ahead.

on a different note, over here (UK) there is a Bonanza chanel, WTF, has anyone else got one?

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Thursday, November 16, 2006 2:05 AM

NYARL


Trying to maintain 10-14 votes a day!

We will prevail.

*Bump*

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Thursday, November 16, 2006 2:29 AM

EVILBUNGLE


Just entered the figures for yesterday into my sheet:

Xena 589
Bonanza 661
La Femme 156
Farscape 171
Firefly 803

and it shows us overtaking Farscape (21) Nikita (31) Bonanza (310) and Xena within 377 Days or 1 year and nine days, it seems like a lot but not when you consider if I input the figures from November the 1st we get a final date to overtake Xena on 8/10/2009 that's the difference two weeks makes so we will get there aslong as we don't let up.

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Thursday, November 16, 2006 2:38 AM

SISTER


voted..bump

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Thursday, November 16, 2006 3:00 AM

THATWENTWELL


voted again.....

Morbid and Creepifyin I can handle.

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Thursday, November 16, 2006 4:05 AM

FLATTOP


Mornin' all!

About the new guestimations...
Projections based on growth of votes per day show that Xena will win. They started out with a very low number of votes per day, and jumped up to be almost competitve with us. This means they have more growth than we do, therefore Xena will win.
Same for Bonanza. The Bonanzai take second.


Now that I have your attention...
Those projections do not account for there being an upper limit to the number of votes per day, or fan fatigue (Bonanza and Xena appear to have peaked and fallen off from their daily high's, but is that a trend or just a plateau before they jump to 1,200?).

Projections based on a rolling 1 week average are much more promising, but potentially no more accurate. Of course being a Browncoat, and having a stubborn streak, I choose to believe the projections that show us in first place. Eventually.

Todays numbers:
Vote increase today (7 day average)
Firefly: 790 (720)
Bonanza: 708 (636)
Xena: 616 (601)
LaFemme: 201 (167)
Farscape: 166 (176)

Days to intercept based on weekly average
Xena: 670
Bonanza: 519
LaFemme: 33
Farscape: 21

Days to intercept based on overall average
Bonanza: 996
Xena: 569
LaFemme: 38
Farscape: 24

I like the weekly average numbers better

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Thursday, November 16, 2006 4:13 AM

FLATTOP


Quote:

Originally posted by EvilBungle:
Just entered the figures for yesterday into my sheet:

Xena 589
Bonanza 661
La Femme 156
Farscape 171
Firefly 803

and it shows us overtaking Farscape (21) Nikita (31) Bonanza (310) and Xena within 377 Days or 1 year and nine days, it seems like a lot but not when you consider if I input the figures from November the 1st we get a final date to overtake Xena on 8/10/2009 that's the difference two weeks makes so we will get there aslong as we don't let up.

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Our intercept dates for Farniki match pretty well, but my Xena & Bonanza are about double yours... interesting. I'll recheck my math Could just be different methods generating different results. I hope yours are right; it'd be much nicer to be in first place in ~ 1 year rather than 2.

Keep Voting!


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Aww hell, I'm a big fan of all seven.

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Thursday, November 16, 2006 4:21 AM

JLIN


Quote:

Originally posted by Jadehand:
thanks for speeding up the load times.

Current totals:
SHOW / VOTES - Total Top 40 votes recorded as of 11/15/06
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Xena: Warrior Princess 147377
Bonanza 110880
La Femme Nikita 85896
Farscape 79047
Firefly 67227
Gunsmoke 56301
Queer as Folk 55032
Roswell 48227




SHOW / VOTES - Total Top 40 votes recorded as of 11/16/06
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Xena: Warrior Princess 147993 (+616)
Bonanza 111588 (+708)
La Femme Nikita 86097 (+201)
Farscape 79213 (+166)
Firefly 68017 (+790)


Almost 800 votes, good work everybody. I'm voting 10-15 times a day.

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Thursday, November 16, 2006 5:01 AM

CANTER


voted...

We need momemtum

Any other ideas as to how to spread the word?

Burn the land and boil the sea...

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Thursday, November 16, 2006 5:04 AM

JLIN


I try to put it at the top of the MySpace Firefly group I'm in everyday. I also posted there about Dec. 1 but I haven't seen anyone respond.


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Thursday, November 16, 2006 5:08 AM

EVILBUNGLE


Quote:

Originally posted by FlatTop:


Our intercept dates for Farniki match pretty well, but my Xena & Bonanza are about double yours... interesting. I'll recheck my math Could just be different methods generating different results. I hope yours are right; it'd be much nicer to be in first place in ~ 1 year rather than 2.



unfortunatly I would go with yours which use a measured average, mine are worked out simply on if we do that exact day another X times - obviously not going to happen, with todays figures I have Farscape (21) Nikita (34) Xena (463) and Bonanza (536) my data only goes to november 1st so it is very basic calculations.

Quote:

Originally posted by JLin:

Almost 800 votes, good work everybody. I'm voting 10-15 times a day.



14 Votes so far today and only 3pm, hoping for 26 votes all day today as I am going out tonight.
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Thursday, November 16, 2006 5:09 AM

FLATTOP


Quote:

Originally posted by Canter:
voted...

We need momemtum

Any other ideas as to how to spread the word?

Burn the land and boil the sea...



Make sure to put the vote link in your signature(s).

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Aww hell, I'm a big fan of all seven.
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Thursday, November 16, 2006 5:24 AM

DERANGEDMILK


Quote:

Originally posted by Canter:
voted...

We need momemtum

Any other ideas as to how to spread the word?



We need to make sure other firefly fan sites know about it and are voting.
-e

"Storms getting worse."
"We'll pass through it soon enough."

Dec 1st: Big Damn Browncoat Vote http://richlabonte.net/tvvote/index.html

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Thursday, November 16, 2006 6:07 AM

FLATTOP


bump

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Thursday, November 16, 2006 7:03 AM

KINGKAI


bump!

"Yeah, that went well..."

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Thursday, November 16, 2006 7:10 AM

DERANGEDMILK


Voted again and posted a new thread over on the scifi.com forums.
http://forums.scifi.com/index.php?showtopic=2254268
If anyone is a member over there and can give it a bump, that'd be much appreciated. I'll try another board later.
-e

"Storms getting worse."
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Thursday, November 16, 2006 7:44 AM

SISTER


vote...bump

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Thursday, November 16, 2006 8:06 AM

DERANGEDMILK


Canter, I saw that you posted about Dec 1st, over on serenitybrowncoats.org. Good job, it wouldn't let me, says my membership is still being validated even though I joined two weeks ago...
KEEP VOTING!
-e

"Storms getting worse."
"We'll pass through it soon enough."

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Thursday, November 16, 2006 9:32 AM

STOWEAWAY


BUMP

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Thursday, November 16, 2006 9:48 AM

FLATTOP


Bump!

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Thursday, November 16, 2006 1:01 PM

SISTER


got home...voted...and bumped

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Thursday, November 16, 2006 2:53 PM

STOWEAWAY


Boted and Vump

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Thursday, November 16, 2006 6:58 PM

CANTER


Quote:

Originally posted by derangedmilk:
Canter, I saw that you posted about Dec 1st, over on serenitybrowncoats.org. Good job, it wouldn't let me, says my membership is still being validated even though I joined two weeks ago...
KEEP VOTING!
-e

"Storms getting worse."
"We'll pass through it soon enough."

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I've tried to post on as many boards as possible, but I'm not able to bump the threads everywhere.
I've not started a chain e-mail to my friends (who're not aware of firefly) and asking them to help, as a favour to me...

Maybe this will even tweak their interest a bit to start getting into the show.

Burn the land and boil the sea...

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Thursday, November 16, 2006 7:28 PM

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"Storms getting worse."
"We'll pass through it soon enough."

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