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Sunday, August 27, 2006 6:57 AM

PATIENCE


Has anyone spotted any bloopers in our BDM or BDS?

One I see from the BDM is when Simon gets shot, and Inara holds pressure on his wound, the fingernails of one hand are polished and those on the other hand aren't. (I don't *think* that's deliberate...could be a Companion thing, but I don't think so.)

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Sunday, August 27, 2006 7:46 AM

CRUITHNE3753


One I spotted straight away in The Message, was Jayne's hat suddenly reappearing on his head a moment after taking it off in respect for the apparently dead Tracy.

Yep, this sort of thread's been done before, but then there's always newbies so why not.

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Sunday, August 27, 2006 6:07 PM

ASORTAFAIRYTALE


Okay, I know that everyone already knows this one but I just had to post it 'cause it's so silly. In the pilot right after they escape from the reavers Wash is holding his hands out like he's controlling the ship, but he's not actually holding anything, he's only pretending.

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Sunday, August 27, 2006 6:26 PM

FREDGIBLET


Quote:

Originally posted by asortafairytale:
Okay, I know that everyone already knows this one but I just had to post it 'cause it's so silly. In the pilot right after they escape from the reavers Wash is holding his hands out like he's controlling the ship, but he's not actually holding anything, he's only pretending.



They did that because Joss wanted to get a specific shot and they couldn't get it any other way. He actually mentions it in the commentary.

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Sunday, August 27, 2006 6:27 PM

HAILFAX


Easy one: When the Operative is looking at Mal's record, his first name gets spelled incorrectly twice.


Another one is when the crew first went inside the Maidenhead, if you look at one of the sercurity feeds, Mal and Jayne are already there.

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Monday, August 28, 2006 5:14 AM

RHYIANAN


Let's not forget the cameraman visible in the background in OMR and the doll in HoG

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Monday, August 28, 2006 5:46 AM

TEACHDAIRE


The doll in HoG? I must have missed that one. Where is it?

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Monday, August 28, 2006 6:10 AM

HAILFAX


The "baby" Burgess holds after he shoots Nandi and points the gun at Inara and Mal.

We're deep in space, corner of No and Where.

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Monday, August 28, 2006 6:13 AM

RHYIANAN


Right when Rance is walking out of the room with the "baby" before Nandi gets shot, you can clearly see that it's a doll for a second, then they cut away and it's a baby in the next shot.

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Monday, August 28, 2006 6:53 AM

OUT2THEBLACK


Quote:

Originally posted by fredgiblet:
Quote:

Originally posted by asortafairytale:
Okay, I know that everyone already knows this one but I just had to post it 'cause it's so silly. In the pilot right after they escape from the reavers Wash is holding his hands out like he's controlling the ship, but he's not actually holding anything, he's only pretending.



They did that because Joss wanted to get a specific shot and they couldn't get it any other way. He actually mentions it in the commentary.



Oddly , I noticed that straight away when the episode first aired . Likewise the bit where Inara is holding the yoke 'upside down'. In the first instance she's holding a black inverted yoke similar to Wash's , but in a subsequent episode , she has a white yoke , right side up , and it's mounted in a different location .

I always thought the empty-handed Wash bit was just to illustrate that Wash was still unconsciously 'in the Zone' after making their escape with the crazy Ivan . If Joss had never said anything about it in the commentary , I would have continued to think that , because 'zoning' with the flying is so much a part of Wash's character !

A little 'continuity' error from the BDM is in the Mal and Book 'death scene' . There's a bit of white debris on the side of Book's head . First it's not there , then it is , then it's not . Really not a big deal , but I noticed it on the first screening of the BDM .

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Monday, August 28, 2006 7:34 AM

WHOOPS


Quote:

Originally posted by hailfax:


Another one is when the crew first went inside the Maidenhead, if you look at one of the sercurity feeds, Mal and Jayne are already there.

We're deep in space, corner of No and Where.



What episode was this in?

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Monday, August 28, 2006 7:39 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


That would be in the BDM? I never noticed that one!

Actually, has anyone spotted anything funny on any of Mr. Universe's many TV screens? I've always meant to check them out and see what's on them.

Yes, I am that obsessed.




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Monday, August 28, 2006 7:54 AM

ELDUSTO


Quote:

Originally posted by hailfax:
Easy one: When the Operative is looking at Mal's record, his first name gets spelled incorrectly twice.


Another one is when the crew first went inside the Maidenhead, if you look at one of the sercurity feeds, Mal and Jayne are already there.

We're deep in space, corner of No and Where.


In the BDM, when the Operative was looking at Mal's war record, didn't it list him as a Captain, but he was really a Sergeant, as stated in the BDS?


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Monday, August 28, 2006 8:28 AM

SHINY


Here's a collection of bloopers from the series and movie:

http://www.browncoats.com/index.php?ContentID=42e6e0aad9f9b

http://www.browncoats.com/index.php?ContentID=433ed68443f0d

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Monday, August 28, 2006 8:48 AM

ARCLIGHT


Quote:

Originally posted by Rhyianan:
Let's not forget the cameraman visible in the background in OMR...



That was the video photographer for the wedding.

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Monday, August 28, 2006 8:53 AM

PENGUIN


Quote:

Originally posted by arclight:
Quote:

Originally posted by Rhyianan:
Let's not forget the cameraman visible in the background in OMR...



That was the video photographer for the wedding.







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Monday, August 28, 2006 12:06 PM

HAILFAX


One of the screens shows the Blue Sun commerical as seen in the "Message" and then a lot of the screens show the old, 40s cartoon, " Max Fleischer's Superman". it's really cool to see.

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Monday, August 28, 2006 12:35 PM

SHROUDED


I found this one on browncoats.com:

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The Big Red Button established in Out of Gas is missing in one scene (Alan mentions in the commentary that had stolen it from the set after he thought they were done shooting, but had to go back the next day to shoot pickups and left the button at home. He later sent the button to Joss with a note that said "when your miracle gets here, pound this button and we'll all come back"...*sniff*)


Made me cry.

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Monday, August 28, 2006 2:20 PM

TRAVELER


Hello Eldusto:

Some people think Mal was given the rank of an officer while he was in prison camp or just as he was mustered out. This gave him more pay so he could afford Serenity. I'm not sure if this conjecture or actual known fact.

Traveler

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Monday, August 28, 2006 2:43 PM

ELOISA


That'd be weird if it happened. In the UK army in World War 2 at least, men tended to drop a rank when they retired rather than gain one.

I see it as making life easier for the people who weren't series fans. The sergeant vs. captain thing is only spelt out in the pilot episode and could be confusing to anyone who hadn't seen that for one reason or Foxother.

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Monday, August 28, 2006 2:51 PM

TRAVELER


I think my father got promoted while in prison camp in Germany. I think it was for time served more than anything else. Can you believe he was shot down on his final mission? Our family is known for it's unusual luck.

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Monday, August 28, 2006 6:11 PM

WHITEFALL


I know someone mentioned something about a white spot by book's head, my pet peeve is also about Book's death scene. The FIRST time I saw the movie, I remember thinking, 'whoa, book's hand is really bloody when he puts it on mal, mal's gonna have a nice handprint for the rest of the scene', and book puts his hand on mals face, leaves a mark around his fingers, and then in the next instant, mal's face is COMPLETELY clear. I notice this every time, I noticed it the first time, it's such a shame cause it really takes me out of the death scene.

The real kicker tho, is in the very next scene, with Mal and the Operative-in-screen, Mal has a big bad blood stain on the proper side of his face. So it's there when book's hand is there, it's there afterwards, when mal needs to look cool, but it's not there for that critical moment where Mal looks at dead book, his handprint still glistening on his face. That might have looked cool, instead, it bugs me.

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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 1:18 PM

OUT2THEBLACK


Yep , Traveler , I find it completely plausible that your father was shot down on his 'final' mission . Happened to a lot of pilots ; a frequent occurrence , as a matter of fact .

I'm just happy that he survived to tell about it and be your dad .

Being that you're in Milwaukee , you ever get up to the 'big show' in Oshkosh in the summer ?

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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 1:49 PM

TRAVELER


Hello Out2theblack:

I was very fortunate to have arrived at the Oshkosh show when they had a B17 sitting there for people to walk through. I went to the front where my father was stationed as navigator.

There was nothing between him and the sky but plexiglas. Talk about out on a limb. Even with the plane on the ground I got dizzy.

How a Nebraskan that was never higher than the second floor of his home could sit there 1000's of feet in the air I can't imagine.

I would tell the story of how he got shot down but it would fill several pages.

Thanks
Traveler


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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 4:40 PM

ASORTAFAIRYTALE


Another one that is frequently pointed out is in the pilot when Inara is flying her shuttle, and she's holding the steering wheel upside down.

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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 6:10 PM

OUT2THEBLACK


Quote:

Originally posted by traveler:
Hello Out2theblack:

I was very fortunate to have arrived at the Oshkosh show when they had a B17 sitting there for people to walk through. I went to the front where my father was stationed as navigator.

There was nothing between him and the sky but plexiglas. Talk about out on a limb. Even with the plane on the ground I got dizzy.

How a Nebraskan that was never higher than the second floor of his home could sit there 1000's of feet in the air I can't imagine.

I would tell the story of how he got shot down but it would fill several pages.

Thanks
Traveler




I've been in a couple of B-17's myself , but of course , never quite like that !

Recall the first time I ever saw one , dropping retardant on a grass fire in California . Truly a majestic flying machine . And fairly tiny , at least on the inside .

I'll take a look at the url you provided . Thanks for that ! My family's flying stories would fill a few pages also . My father and grandfather both worked for Mr. Hughes' aircraft company ; and my father worked for Douglas as well . Me ; third gen flyer . Fortunate to know a lot of pilots , test pilots and astronauts myself .

Navigator ; quite an esoteric art , particularly before the modern navaids and automation . In junior high school , my algebra teacher was an ex-Air Force Navigator . Quite an interesting fellow . An influence on my own choices . I went to school for celestial nav , due to my interest in astronautics .

I used to know an engineer who worked first for Seversky , then Republic , then Consolidated , then Hughes , then FAA , then retired . Was aboard the Spruce Goose inflight . Once the CAF brought a B-24 here , on which he was a design engineer . While everyone else was distracted with the -24 , I climbed the nosewheel ladder to the CAF B-29 , got into the cockpit , and leisurely took my time sitting in all the seats !

Another teacher I had was a bomber instructor-pilot , first in B-25's after his combat tour , then in B-29's on the island-hopping campaigns in the Pacific , also as an I-P . Once a smart-ass kid in my class asked him , " Mr. W- , Why are you so ugly ? " Mr. W- responded , " I've been in 2 airplane crashes , what's your excuse ? " - And after the war , he was a CHP trooper when the Spruce Goose was brought from Culver City to Long Beach . Then , in his most daring career move , he became a drafting instructor to ungrateful schoolkids !

There was an infamous incident a number of years ago , when an impatient air traffic controller berated an old-timer pilot from America for being somewhat unfamiliar with the layout of the Tempelhof airport . " Haven't you ever been to Berlin before ? " , he raged , to which the American pilot coolly responded , " Yes , I have , but the last time was in a different Boeing , a B-17 ! "


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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 6:49 PM

TRAVELER


Hello Out2theblack:

We kind of went off the original thread. But nobody is yelling at us.

Berlin was where my father got shot down. But by the time he landed he was miles away in some farmers field. After the war he left flying to others. I think he had enough for one lifetime.

I have not come across many airmen, mostly run into infantry. I suck them dry for their stories. I can be a leach sometimes. But first hand knowledge beats reading it in a book.

There are only a handful of B-17's flying now. Couldn't make a good movie. Would need computer graphics to make it look a full squadron.

I'm sure if you Google B17 would get even more pictures.

Well I got to get to bed, but this has been nice.

Take Care;
Traveler

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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 7:39 PM

MOOSE


Quote:

Originally posted by traveler:
I would tell the story of how he got shot down but it would fill several pages.



Don't let that stop ya!


Quote:

Originally posted by traveler:
We kind of went off the original thread. But nobody is yelling at us



Well, that's because ya'll are talking about B-17s. Who in their right mind would yell at someone for talking about B-17s?

Out2theblack, cool story about getting onboard that B29. I've always wanted to climb aboard one of those.

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Wednesday, August 30, 2006 3:04 PM

MARINE


Well Traveler, Between you and Out2theblack there are some stories that could be told. I think its crazy that you two know so many cool people. I don't know anyone compared to the job titles you two know.

In Iraq OIF I and OIF II, we (Marine Corps) were running out of grenades when we were clearing houses. So we started to use rocks instead. Throwing in a grenade every few houses. No the rock didn't explode or anything, but it was enough to make people hesitate and that's all we needed.

Unfortunately, we lost a lot of good men because we would kick the door, and they would rig the door for it to explode as soon as it was opened. Head to head we could walk on most countries including Iraq. If it wasn't for IED's and rigged doors we wouldn't have near the casualties we have now.

Sure we could have shot the door with a M203 grenade launcher, but what if there was civilians' inside? I was in OIF III, but I have spoken with the Marines who were there. These are their stories, I have my own but this one came to mind. MY 2 CENTS :) (by the way, unless it is shot from a gun, grenades don't blow up, it shoots metal in different directions, up and out)

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Wednesday, August 30, 2006 3:07 PM

MARINE


What is BDM or BDS?

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Wednesday, August 30, 2006 3:15 PM

YINYANG

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Quote:

Originally posted by Marine:
What is BDM or BDS?



BDM - Big Damn Movie (reference to "Safe")

BDS - Big Damn Series

EDIT: I put them into the context of the thread. Now it makes more sense.
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Wednesday, August 30, 2006 3:34 PM

TRAVELER


I don't know that many people. I'm 54 so I probably have met more than you. Because of my father I grew an interest in the personal conflict the people face who protect us from harm.

I have also read some very good books.
The one that really got to me was "Ghost Soldiers" by Hampton Sides.

I'm sure you know enough to fill volumns. This iswhat I've learned from listening to veterans.

God Bless You All
And Keep You Safe



Traveler

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Wednesday, August 30, 2006 6:17 PM

MARINE


Fair enough, I wish that more people had the same respect for people like your father, as you do.

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Thursday, August 31, 2006 7:42 AM

TRAVELER


Hello Marine:

When I learned what my father did during WWII, I said to my mother, "Dad was a hero."

She replied, "They all were."

My mother has surpized with her deep wisdom on occasion.


Traveler

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