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I lost something special

POSTED BY: CAUSAL
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Tuesday, June 27, 2006 3:19 PM

CAUSAL


Don't know if anyone will even read this thread--or even what it would mean to if someone did.

Today I got home from work and discovered that my Navy-issued dog tags--which I've worn for 11 years--were gone. I went back to work and looked for an hour, to no avail. I went to every other place I'd been today--no luck. I even looked under the seats of my car, but found nothing.

I don't know if you can relate, but those were truly precious to me. Sure, they weren't especially valuable--probably only a couple of bucks. But they represented 10 years of service with honor.

I wore them in bootcamp, through my transformation from civilian to sailor. I wore them on my first cruise in the Mediterranean. I wore them all the way through a marriage. I wore them to Afghanistan (when I thought they might actually be used for the purpose for which they were designed) and in Iraq (ditto). And when I got out of the Navy, I kept wearing them. I quit shaving on Saturdays, but I kept wearing my dog tags. I quit carrying things in my left hand (never know when you might have to salute), but I still wore my dog tags. I even learned to use 12-hour time--but never did stop wearing those dog tags. They came to represent a very formative, and significant, time in my life--a time I'm extremely proud of.

I don't think losing any other possession would hit me this hard. I just don't know what to say.

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Tuesday, June 27, 2006 3:27 PM

ZZETTA13


I understand. keep looking and don't give up. You will find them I'm certain of it.

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Tuesday, June 27, 2006 3:58 PM

PENGUIN


Would the Navy reissue them to you??


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Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:13 PM

MINIME


I wish you had a magical wish-granting plank, too.

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Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:15 PM

ZISKER


Oh man - I lost my very first set of tags that I wore for four years two months ago, so while I didn't have them as long I empathize greatly.

I'm so sorry, and hope against odds that they surface somehow.



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Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:31 PM

SAVEWASH

Now I am learning about scary.


I have never earned anything that meaningful so I can't claim to relate. But I do sincerely hope you'll find them. Keep looking--or try this: stop looking, sit in a comfortable chair and let your mind wander back to the last time you saw them. Imagine seeing them and their surroundings. Something in the image might give you a clue. This sometimes works for me when I've lost something.

Good luck.



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Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:43 PM

MISSTRESSAHARA


I'm sorry about that Casual, I've lost a few things that were precious to me but to lose 11 years of memories that came with those tags.

My best advice is to think of the LAST time you can remember wearing them. I know a lot of people say this but it works. When you got up were they on? If not check under, around on the bed (check in between the frame and box spring)

Maybe when you were making breakfast, is your garbage an open lid? Were you doing dishes? Do your bottom cupboards have a little lip on the bottom?

Showered? Maybe under the mat (if you have one.)

Think if you had them at work what activity you were doing that would have made them slip off.

Your probably used to hearing them jingle when your working and walking. Can you remember (subconciously) when that familiar sound was not heard? You have to think hard on that one.

Your used to the feel and weight of them. Again subconciously can you remember when things felt a little off? You said you noticed when you got home but was there a time when the familiar feel of the chain wasn't resting on your neck?

You really have to go back through your day to try to see if you can pick up on the difference but I've found it helped. Many a times I've gone back over things. I've found them that way. I'd hate to think those tags of which mean so much are gone.

You have to sit down, relax, and go over your entire routine and using those tips hopefully you'll have an idea of where they may have disappeared to.

Good luck Casual, this Browncoat hopes you find them.

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Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:51 PM

LAUGHINGMUSE


Damn. I don't keep *things*, but I do keep memories, and I write things down. I would be devastated if I lost my scribble-book.

Adding my thoughts to your dogtags' finding their way back to you.

You may have lost your own personal symbol, but you still have the faith.

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Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:55 PM

DQBABY76


I sincerely hope that you find them soon. I know what its like to lose something really special and being a military spouse I understand. The whole "not knowing" issue will drive you crazy so try to stay calm, they could pop up when you least expect it. Take Care!

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Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:57 PM

CARTOON


Firstly, I hope you will eventually find them.

Secondly, having never served in the military, I'm wondering if there's anyway someone who found them could return them to you? I mean, is there info on them by which a stranger could return them to you -- in the eventuality that you misplaced them in a public place where someone else was likely to run across them?

Thirdly, thank you for your service. Those of us who haven't served, but enjoy the fruits of your sacrifce can never thank you enough.

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Tuesday, June 27, 2006 5:17 PM

NCBROWNCOAT


I know what you are going thru. I lost mine around the time I got divorced and my things were in a tizzy. I still wish I had them because I had my Episcopal Service Cross on the same chain.

Do dog tags still have your ssn# on them? If so you might want to call the credit reporting agencies and put a fraud block on your credit file. It's very easy to do-all 3, Equifax, Transunion and Experian have web sites where you can do this. They say that if you notify one all 3 will be notified but don't trust it. Do all 3 yourself.

I just had to do it myself when the Veteran's Administration lost all the personal info on everyone that served from 1978 until today-all 26 million of us. If anything it'll stop all those annoying credit card mailings.

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Tuesday, June 27, 2006 5:44 PM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


You did lose something special. But what you DIDN'T lose was the honor with which you wore those tags, the time you served and the thanks we all owe you for that service.

Thank you Casual. And thank you to anyone else here who has served.






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Tuesday, June 27, 2006 6:34 PM

SAMEERTIA


Well said, FutureMrsFillion!

I can relate totally. Long long ago, I got home from work to realize that the silver promise ring that my then lover (later husband, now ex-husband) was no longer on my finger. It had been handcrafted for HIS parents when they first fell in love, and was precious to ALL of us.

I spent hours going through every step of the restaurant. The entire garbage bin was emptied and dug through item by item- I took the pipes out of the sinks, checked the grease trap. I never found it.

Most people recognize how important a soldiers dog-tags are to them. If someone finds them I'm sure they'll make an effort to find you.

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Tuesday, June 27, 2006 7:07 PM

EMBERS


*hugs*
I'm really sorry to hear this...

be sure to check carefully through the laundry, sometimes when you pull a sweater or t-shirt off over your head something like that can tangle up in it (and if you are distracted you won't notice).

other possibilities is that the chain broke and it fell down at some point, phone any stores where you might have been...

I hope they turn up.

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Tuesday, June 27, 2006 8:19 PM

AGATSU


Aren't dog tags designed so you DON'T lose them? So SOMETHING must have happened... do you remember taking off your sweater somewhere, or getting caught on something? It's the only possibility that comes to mind if you didn't lose them at home - something must have had enough force to break the chain, which isn't really easy.
Or was the chain long enough so you could slip it over your head?
If you lost them, there's always hope because your name should be on them, and maybe the finder throws them in a mail box or something. I dunno how that works in the U.S.

I really hope you find them, and even if you don't, it will not diminish what you have done for your country, your people, and your fellow man. You wear that pride in your heart, not around your neck.

I know, I know, it still sucks.

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Tuesday, June 27, 2006 8:49 PM

MAGHAFFAR


Hey, Causal... If you believe in God, then know that He knows where they are.
In my faith, when we lose something precious, we say:
"Inna lillahi wa inna alaihi raj-ee-oon"
which means "to Him do we belong and to Him do we return."
Say this several times (in odd numbers) and just see if they don't turn up!
Can't hurt to try. Have the faith and keep it!


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Tuesday, June 27, 2006 9:15 PM

AGATSU


What religon is that, if you don't mind me asking?


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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 12:03 AM

GUYWHOWANTSAFIREFLYOFHISOWN


one thing that usually works when I lose something is to just stop looking for it.

for instance, I recently lost a game, looked everywhere around my bed, stoped looking andn2 days later there it was on the floor around my bed



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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:17 AM

CAUSAL


Thanks to everyone who's posted in here. You've proved again that the Browncoats are the best damned fandom around.

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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:28 AM

REDLAVA


Nothing is found until it wants to be found. But don't fret, you will see them again.

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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 3:51 AM

CHANNAIN

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Quote:

Originally posted by Causal:
I don't think losing any other possession would hit me this hard. I just don't know what to say.

I think you do, and you've said it quite eloquently.

I own a yin yang pendant that I wear constantly. Sterling silver, with an intricate spiral pattern in the yang side. Aside from the true representation of the symbol, it has become a physical representation of who I am, and my understanding of the universe. One day I intend to have "Romans 12:2" engraved on the back, to complete that representation. It is now joining me through some significant life-changing events.

I don't recall for sure how long I've worn it, although I still remember buying it at the little kiosk in a local shopping mall. At first I wore it just because I liked it, but in time it became significant. If I lost this pendant, I would be in the same state that you are now. Yet I can't take it off, because every time I've tried I feel like some part of me is missing. Someday one of my nieces will wear it and say, "It belonged to my crazy aunt."

However, it's not the same because as SaveWash said, I didn't earn it.

You're probably thinking, "If only I'd packed them away..." but things like that aren't meant to be kept locked away. They're meant to be worn to remind you of where you've been and maybe help you determine where you're going.

Someone may have told you already that maybe this means you're supposed to move on to some new stage of your life. It may also mean that you're supposed to make some kind of realization before the tags will come back to you.

I'll just start praying now that some kind soul has found them, and is working on getting them back to you.

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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 4:20 AM

MSG


HUGS- I hope you find them sweety. They have to be somewhere so don't give up hope. My mom once found a lost drivers license 10 years later and I have found stuff months or even year after I put them somewhere odd. We all have our fingers crossed for you!

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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 5:15 AM

CYBERSNARK


Well, they can't have disintegrated, so they must be out there somewhere. I hope you find them.

And, as others have said, thank you for serving.

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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 6:58 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


I can feel your pain Casual.

I have had my dog tags for 19 years. They saw me through boot camp, jump school, Ranger training, Operation Desert Shield, Operation Desert Storm and more than a few hard spots.

I wore them every day until about two years when they fell off on a hiking trip. I thought the were gone for good. We searched miles of trails and couldn't find them. It really bothered me as they had been with me so long.

Imagine my surprise when I get a package from the Dept of the Army with my tags in it six months after losing them. Seems another hiker found them and turned them over to a recruiter who tracked me down and had them shipped to me.

I really do hope you find your tags my friend.

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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:35 AM

HERA


I truly feel for you, Causal. As much as I try to not have my self worth tied up in material things, it is the objects that are wrapped up within the sentiments of time and distance traveled whose loss wounds me the most.

When I was 8 I lost the watch that belonged to my grandmother. I was playing in the leaves in the sideyard and took it off so I wouldn't harm it, leaving it wrapped around the antenna of the hood of the neighbor's car. They drove off without me noticing, and I never found it. I had to tell my mother. She had trusted that I would take care of it, and I let her down. It affected me greatly.

I truly hope you find your tags. They may yet come back to you.

"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas

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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:50 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


Quote:

Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
Imagine my surprise when I get a package from the Dept of the Army with my tags in it six months after losing them. Seems another hiker found them and turned them over to a recruiter who tracked me down and had them shipped to me.



bet that hiker was a Browncoat. Have faith Casual, someone will find them and turn them in!



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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 1:11 PM

RMMC


*hugs* I really can't add much that hasn't already been said, but I'll still give my sympathy and bend God's ear a bit praying they make their way back to you.

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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 1:43 PM

TRAVELER


I'm sure thatI am repeating what others have said. You didn't lose those ten years. they will be with always. I have been told that when one door closes another opens. I beleave another door is opening.

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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 1:46 PM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


Just adding my support. *hugs* and hope you find them soon. Maybe you can take out an ad in the paper?



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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 3:42 PM

CAUSAL


Well, I found them! I'd narrowed the losing of them to my work (in a warehouse until fall semester), and as I stood at my bench I was just overwhelmed by the thought that they were there in the building with me, but that I'd never find them. I said a little prayer, something like, "If it's not too much to ask, I'd like my dog tags back" and went back to work. Half an hour later I just felt the urge to look under some rollers by my bench. Keep in mind that my wife, myself, and a coworker had scoured every inch of my workstation and come up empty. But lo and behold, there they were, right under the rollers! What a relief.

Thanks to all for the kind words and the encouragement. Once again, what a great fandom we have!

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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 3:46 PM

MSG


That is so wonderful Causal!!!! HUGS and I am happy for you.

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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 3:49 PM

SHINYYUKARI


That's great that you found them. Sometimes, it takes a little faith and a second look around.

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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 3:54 PM

SAVEWASH

Now I am learning about scary.


What an excellent end to the story! I'm so glad you found them.

And, as the others have said, thanks for your service. We can never repay you for what you've given us.



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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 4:41 PM

CAUSAL


Thanks for saying!

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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 4:56 PM

HERA


YAY! So relieved for you. I'm glad there was a happy ending.

Now to install the ring bolt into your neck so they don't slip off again...I'll get Kaylee right on that.

"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas

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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 5:06 PM

CAUSAL


Actually, I'm seriously considering having a duplicate set made and wearing those. What do you think?

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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 5:18 PM

HERA


I think that is a splendid idea! Go for it.

"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas

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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:23 PM

MISSTRESSAHARA


YAAA Casual so happy to hear that. I keep coming back to this post hoping beyond hope the next time I read it it'll have good news and what do you know, there is. HAZZAH!

Though a Canadian I would like to extend my thanks for your time in action, you helped to keep freedom for me and mine over the border too. Thank you Casual for all you do. That sounds like a commercial. Have a brew? And this too, (if your wife doesn't mind)

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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:27 PM

MAGHAFFAR


Quote:

Originally posted by Causal:
Well, I found them! . . . . I said a little prayer, something like, "If it's not too much to ask, I'd like my dog tags back" and went back to work. Half an hour later I just felt the urge to look under some rollers by my bench.
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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 8:29 PM

PEULSAR5

We sniff the air, we don't kiss the dirt.


That is a very good idea to make a second set of dog tags. I have my grandfather's from the Korean War era, but I actually wear a duplicate set of them. It's one of the few things I have of his, and it would kill me if anything happened to them.

We actually have the same name and bloodtype, so if I'm in an accident it won't get me in trouble!

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Wednesday, June 28, 2006 9:59 PM

AGATSU


Glad you got your tags back, Causal!

The Serenity Summer Campaign is on, baby - prepare to kick some serious pigu!
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Thursday, June 29, 2006 3:35 AM

CHANNAIN

i DO aim to misbehave


WEEEE-OO!!

Ask and ye shall receive - yeah Baby!



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Thursday, June 29, 2006 3:41 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION


YAY.

Now put them away somewhere safe!



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Thursday, June 29, 2006 3:55 AM

CHRISISALL


Causal, good news! Knew you'd find 'em. And now that you did, I can tell you of my loss.
When I was 20 I somehow misplaced my virginity. Then I found out my girlfriend had taken it!

Actually, not quite a tale of woe...

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Thursday, June 29, 2006 4:14 AM

CYBERSNARK


Congrats Causal. Glad you found 'em.

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Thursday, June 29, 2006 6:04 AM

ZZETTA13


I think thats a very good idea CASUAL and btw I'm glad that you found them. Had a feeling in my gut that you'd locate them. Something that meaningful just can't stay hidden forever.

Z

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Thursday, June 29, 2006 6:54 AM

MSG


Chris- if you wait long enough I'm sure it'll come back:)
Causal- sounds like duplicates are a great I idea, but may I also suggest a safe deposit box to make sure nothing happens to them no matter what:)

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Thursday, June 29, 2006 11:09 AM

RMMC


YEA!!!!!

Glad to hear you got 'em back. I also think the duplicates would be a dandy idea, as is msg's thought of putting the originals in a safe deposit box.

*hugs*

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Thursday, June 29, 2006 1:20 PM

CAUSAL


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Originally posted by chrisisall:
When I was 20 I somehow misplaced my virginity. Then I found out my girlfriend had taken it!



BWAHAHAHAHA!!

Chrisisall: always good for a laugh.

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Thursday, June 29, 2006 1:20 PM

CAUSAL


Move along, people, nothing to see here in this deleted double post. These aren't the droids you're looking for.

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