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What is your favourite historical or war film/television show???

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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 4:29 PM

20THCENTFOXHATER


So, what is your favourite historical or war film?

Movies/programs to consider:

Spartacus
Ben Hur
Gladiator (or extended edition)
Braveheart
Saving Private Ryan
Apocolypse Now (or Redux)
King Arthur (or director's cut)
Black Hawk Down (or director's cut)
Kingdom of Heaven (or director's cut)
Rome (HBO)
Deadwood (HBO)
The Last Samurai
Full Metal Jacket

by no means stick to this list....

my personal favourite is Gladiator extended edition.

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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 5:23 PM

FREDGIBLET


Movie: probably Gladiator
TV Show: Battlefields, I believe that it used to be on PBS but I've seen it on Military Channel as well.

EDIT: Battlefields is non-fiction by the way

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Thursday, April 20, 2006 2:26 AM

DONCOAT


A few of my faves:

Saving Private Ryan
Schindler's List
Das Boot
Apollo 13
Paths of Glory
The Great Escape (overly Hollywoodized but still good)
Playing for Time
Danger: UXB
30 Seconds Over Tokyo
Midway (would be a lot higher on the list if it didn't have the silly romantic sub plot about Chuck Heston's son)

I'm certainly forgetting many good ones...

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Thursday, April 20, 2006 2:36 AM

JONUS


Gladiator, definitely. I love that stuff. I love that era in history. Wish I was there.

Also Saving Private Ryan. I can't see this one enough.
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Thursday, April 20, 2006 2:52 AM

NUCLEARDAY


Couple of my top ones:

Gone with the Wind
The Roaring Twenties (with James Cagney, and I always like when Humphrey Bogart plays the bad guy.)


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Thursday, April 20, 2006 2:59 AM

J6NGO1977


My fave war show is 'Band of Brothers'. My fave war movie is 'The Longest Day (B&W version)'. Private Ryan and Black Hawk are a close 2nd.


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Thursday, April 20, 2006 3:33 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


I couldn't narrow it down to just one, so here are several:

- The Longest Day
- Saving Private Ryan
- Gone with the Wind
- Braveheart

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Thursday, April 20, 2006 4:05 AM

JMB9039


I'm not sure if I'd call some of those movies "films"... Gladiator? really? Man, I thought that was awful. Braveheart was much better, in my opinion. Patton was good too. Apacolypse Now. yeah.

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Thursday, April 20, 2006 6:29 AM

WEREALLJUSTFLOATING


I love Gladiator, and I'd call it a film, although I don't really differentiate between film and movie anyway. I have a thing for sword'n'sandal epics like Ben Hur and Spartacus. I also love Deadwood.

I've just watched the first season on dvd and it's brilliant, very reminiscent of Firefly, some of the episodes even had David Boyd as DP. It's beautifully shot. One character even uses the word 'shiny' and my ears pricked up, so you've got to love it for that alone. The characters are brilliantly written and acted. Rome is another great historical TV Show that HBO did. I look forward to the next season when it finally gets here.

Gone with the Wind is a classic too. The Thin Red Line is another beautifully shot film, very visually memorable. Full Metal Jacket - starring a young Adam Baldwin, is a great war film too.

Thats all I can think of at the moment.





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Thursday, April 20, 2006 6:44 AM

SICKDUDE


Wow, this is a pretty broad category! War AND historical movies, film AND TV. That covers a lot of ground.

Limiting this to war only, for TV I'll take:
Combat
Piece of Cake

For war movies, mine would be:
Gallipoli
The Light Horsemen
The Beast
Enemy at the Gates
Gettysburg (haven't seen Gods and Generals yet)
Glory

Would Rob Roy and Last of the Mohicans (remake)count?


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Thursday, April 20, 2006 11:34 AM

20THCENTFOXHATER


Oh, and for my favourite historical television show it would have to be Deadwood.

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Thursday, April 20, 2006 4:29 PM

KWICKO

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Some great ones have already been mentioned, but I'll add a few of my faves that I haven't seen listed here:

A Man For All Seasons
Lawrence of Arabia
The Lion In Winter
The Grand Illusion
A Bridge Too Far
A Bright, Shining Lie
Apocalypse Now
The Big Red One
The Bridge On The River Kwai
The Sand Pebbles
The Killing Fields

The first one is on my list of all-time best movies, period. Simply stunning. It's not a war film, but it is simply one of the best historical films I've ever seen.

Another film that shouldn't be left out:

The Battle Of Britain

You can even see a young Ian McShane in it, if you're a Deadwood fan. :) And what could be better than skies full of Spitfires and Hurricanes?

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Thursday, April 20, 2006 5:20 PM

LISSA


Last of the Mohicans, easily. It has been my favorite movie since I was like 7 (about 13 years ago...ack!).

I also grew up as a big fan of Gettysburg and Dances With Wolves. And I remember loving Midway...although I'm fairly certain I had no idea what was going on other than "cool planes!" I had strange taste in movies for a little girl...

I love a lot of newer movies like Gladiator, but you just can't replace the emotional attachment of growing up with a movie. Last of the Mohicans is MY movie:)

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Thursday, April 20, 2006 5:20 PM

RAVENHAIR


Band of Brothers, Black Hawk Down, Gallipoli, Breaker Morant, Gone with the Wind, Last of the Mohicans, just off the top of my head...

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Thursday, April 20, 2006 5:57 PM

KHYRON


Quote:

Originally posted by Jonus:
Gladiator, definitely. I love that stuff. I love that era in history. Wish I was there.



That was what I thought too, until I saw 'Rome'. After that I thought that living in that era maybe wouldn't be so much fun after all, and that watching Firefly while in my comfy chair is much better amusement than watching people killing each other in an arena. It's still a fascinating part of human history, and I really did enjoy Gladiator (although not necessarily for its historical content, which I remember thinking was very wrong in some places).



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Thursday, April 20, 2006 6:43 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL


There are so many good ones. Rome was my favorite show for the duration that it was on. I’m hoping they come out with a second season, though I suspect they will not, sadly.

I liked Gladiator as well, and it has some very authentic stuff in it, but I’ve never considered it a historical film. It’s purely fictional. I loved the first part of Gladiator. The beginning scenes where the Roman Legion fought the Marcomanni is very well presented, but the tactics, I wonder about.



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Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

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Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:49 PM

FLAUTISTFIRST


Does Monty Python's "Holy Grail" count? If so, I liked that one.

Seriously though, lots of well done films in this genre.

I really didn't expect to like Black Hawk Down, but I was quite surprised. Saving Private Ryan--again very compelling regarding some of the horrors of war. Shindler's List--again compelling and important for people to always remember.

The Killing Fields
Good Night and Good Luck (very important history IMHO)


I like the series "American Experiences" on PBS as well.

Edit: I don't have cable, but I do live in South Dakota. Deadwood just received several feet of snow this week. A previous post mentioned liking sword and sandle movies and liking Deadwood. I couldn't help but picture no sandals in Deadwood this week, and shovels, not swords, will be in hand.



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Thursday, April 20, 2006 11:17 PM

WEREALLJUSTFLOATING


Quote:

Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
There are so many good ones. Rome was my favorite show for the duration that it was on. I’m hoping they come out with a second season, though I suspect they will not, sadly.



They are making a 2nd season of it, it's just that it takes a long time to shoot, understandably. They shoot it in Rome actually, or at least outside the city proper. Here's a news story about the 2nd season

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news06/060420c.php


Oh and I definitley count both The Holy Grail and Life of Brian as historical films, albeit satires. They're hilarious.
I forgot Lawrence of Arabia, that's a brilliant film too, one of my all-time favourites.

Ps I didnt mean to confuse Deadwood with sword'n'sandals epics, there's defintely none of those in Deadwood. I'm waiting anxiously for the 2nd season to arrive in the post.... Any day now:)



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Thursday, April 20, 2006 11:49 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL


Quote:

Originally posted by werealljustfloating:
They are making a 2nd season of it, it's just that it takes a long time to shoot, understandably. They shoot it in Rome actually, or at least outside the city proper. Here's a news story about the 2nd season

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news06/060420c.php

That’s awesome news. The second part of the story is where things get good. Marc Antony and Octavius crush the remaining supporters of the republic and then fight each other for supremacy.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Friday, April 21, 2006 12:13 PM

20THCENTFOXHATER


HBO also has plans on making Rome into a full blown television series (albiet only 10 to 12 episodes per season) that chronicles the rise, decline and fall of the western Roman empire.

If it goes on long enough, they plan on taking it all the way to when Odoacer overthrew the "last" Roman emperor Romulus Augustulus in A.D. 476. That is going to be sweet .

"I aim to misbehave."
"Can't do something smart, do something right".

HOMER: "Oh Lisa, you and your stories; Bart is a vampire, beer kills brain cells. Now lets go back to that... building thingy... where our beds and T.V.... is".

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Friday, April 21, 2006 1:12 PM

AENGUS


Lots of excellent films mentioned so far. Some of my favs are:

Saving Private Ryan
Zulu(probably my fav)
Braveheart
The Vikings
The Warlord
Flesh and Blood
The "Sharpe's" movies
Alexander Nevsky
Spartacus
Henry V(an older version from the 1950's I think)
Alfred the Great
Cross of Iron
Sgt. York
Becket

I am sure there are more, but I can't remember them right now. :)

I am sure there are more, but

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Friday, April 21, 2006 1:20 PM

AENGUS


Lots of excellent films mentioned so far. Some of my favs are:

Saving Private Ryan
Zulu(probably my fav)
Braveheart
The Vikings
The Warlord
Flesh and Blood
The "Sharpe's" movies
Alexander Nevsky
Spartacus
Henry V(an older version from the 1950's I think)
Alfred the Great
Cross of Iron
Sgt. York
Becket

I am sure there are more, but I can't remember them right now. :)

I am sure there are more, but

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Friday, April 21, 2006 2:50 PM

DONCOAT


Oh yes... for the sandal set, there's the amazing "I, Claudius" series. I'd say that's my fave from that historical era.


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Friday, April 21, 2006 4:41 PM

NCBROWNCOAT


All of the above.

Plus one that hasn't been mentioned. When I was a teenager PBS showed an excellent multipart documentary by the BBC on WWII called "World at War".

What made it so good was the use of many of the actual participants. One of the most earie was an interview with Hitler's secretary and her account of what happened in the bunker when he killed himself.

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Friday, April 21, 2006 5:15 PM

JAGFAN98


Lots of good ones mentioned already. Just some off the top of my head:

Gettysburg
Platoon
Full Metal Jacket
Path to War
Saving Private Ryan
Enemy At The Gates
Black Hawk Down
Ken Burns Civil War (PBS)
Coming Home
Apocalypse Now
Go Tell The Spartans
Three Kings
Gladiator
All The President's Men
Nixon
JFK
Born on the Fourth of July
1492
Indochine
The Untouchables
The Thin Red Line
Wyatt Earp
Salvador


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Saturday, April 22, 2006 9:06 AM

LISSA


Quote:

Originally posted by jagfan98:

Three Kings



I forgot about Three Kings! I love that movie.

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Saturday, April 22, 2006 10:40 AM

KIZYR


I'm not much into TV, so I mostly have movies to list. But, I'm gonna organize them by how directly they deal with war...

Dealing with war itself:
- Apocalypse Now
- Saving Private Ryan
- Glory

Dealing with the effects of war:
- Schindler's List
- The Killing Fields

War (or wars) as a background:
- Into the West (TV)
- Spartacus

Fictitious Wars:
- Gladiator
- Serenity {^^}. KF



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Tuesday, November 22, 2022 8:26 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Some great examples in the thread, I think Band of Brothers still ranks there

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Tuesday, November 22, 2022 1:09 PM

BRENDA


I love "I, Claudius".

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