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Some thoughts about buying the DVDs only from Amazon...

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Monday, April 17, 2006 4:55 PM

11THHOUR


I realize that everyone is working hard to consolidate the ideas for the June 23rd Serenity DVD buying day, but I got to thinking how buying only from Amazon could hurt us... P.R. wise...

The Browncoats are going to being throwing A LOT of money at the Serenity DVD, and Amazon will reap the profits. How do you think all the other DVD vendors are going to feel? All that money getting spent, and a big retailer like Amazon got it ALL?!

It could very well be that all those other retailers are going to resent the Browncoats for organizing such a big purchase and shutting out the little guys.

That's right. We're going to give all our money to the BIG guy, and all the small companies and independents won't get nuthin'.

Does that sound like the way Browncoats do things?

We could quite possibly get complaints from retailers and BAD press because we only purchased from ONE outlet.

We want as many retailers as possible to feel positive about the Serenity DVD and keep it in stock. We could get a backlash of retailers who limit (or stop) ordering the DVD because they figure we're gonna give all our business to Amazon... might turn into a retaliation thing. Been known to happen, and it's not pretty.

When the Firefly DVD was first released, it wasn't stocked in a lot of stores... which made it an uphill battle to get folks to discover it. Even when Serenity was released, it wasn't always well stocked in stores. We want retailers to order BIG quantities of the DVDs so they'll always be a supply when folks go to find it. So we need to stay on good terms with a wide range of retailers so they'll want to benefit from our promotion of the DVDs.

Now I'm not saying don't buy from Amazon, just that we need to spread the sales around more. It will also be more impressive to the studio that a lot of us actually got up from our computer and maybe bought some DVDs from stores, and *ahem* the Universal website. (Universal probably makes more money when the DVDs are purchased directly from their home entertainment division.) Think how Universal will feel if they see all that money spent at Amazon, and they coulda made more if we bought the Serenity DVD directly from them?! Uh oh...

PLEASE give the idea of spreading the sales around some consideration... we don't want to inadvertently create a whole lotta resentment from retailers, and Universal... we NEED all these folks on our side.

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Monday, April 17, 2006 5:11 PM

AGATSU


O_o

Gorramnit, I think you're right.
So, purchase it any way possible?

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On June 23rd, we aim to misbehave.

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Monday, April 17, 2006 5:17 PM

SAMEERTIA


I agree.
Whenever I can I buy from local independent video stores. Its not enough for just Amazon to get the pitch. We should use this as a demonstration that we have buying power in our own neighborhoods as well.


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Monday, April 17, 2006 5:25 PM

11THHOUR


Quote:

Originally posted by Agatsu:
Gorramnit, I think you're right.
So, purchase it any way possible?



Well, off the top of my head I would say that buying the DVDs in store and from several different online DVD vendors would be a very good thing.

Since we're looking for publicity on this, think how shiny so many retailers will feel about Browncoats when they are included in the big Serenity/Firefly DVD buying day!

Some folks are actually planning on buying multiple copies, so for them I'd suggest (as time allows) buy some in-store AND puchase them online... maybe throw some business to the little guys... they'll LOVE the Browncoats. We'll create a lot of loyalty and good feelings that way. Also, don't forget Universal Home Entertainment... they will think mightly kindly of the Browncoats if we throw lots of coin directly to them.

For those who will be buying from Amazon (and I think crashing their website would be fun... heh... heh...), then by all means use the link on FFF.net to do it. That way you'll also be supporting this shiny forum.

Spread the Serenity/Firefly DVD love folks!

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Monday, April 17, 2006 5:27 PM

11THHOUR


Quote:

Originally posted by SameErtia:
I agree.
Whenever I can I buy from local independent video stores. Its not enough for just Amazon to get the pitch. We should use this as a demonstration that we have buying power in our own neighborhoods as well.



I also try to support independent businesses, many types, whenever possible. Guess Firefly/Serenity fans have fondness for independents, huh?



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Monday, April 17, 2006 6:11 PM

ROLANDREYNOLDS


"Not to be negative, but..."

If it's a statement we're trying to make, will the visibility/effectiveness of that statement be compromised if we spread our eye-popping number of purchases over a ton of different retailers? I agree with the principle of supporting smaller businesses, but not concentrating the movement in one spot may make it, well... entirely overlookable.

What's more eye-catching? 1,000,000 sales, or 100,000 sales spread over 10 places, 8 of which are much less likely to be seen?

I don't claim to know how all this works, I'm just trying to throw out constructive thoughts.

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Monday, April 17, 2006 6:36 PM

11THHOUR


Quote:

Originally posted by RolandReynolds:
"Not to be negative, but..."

If it's a statement we're trying to make, will the visibility/effectiveness of that statement be compromised if we spread our eye-popping number of purchases over a ton of different retailers? I agree with the principle of supporting smaller businesses, but not concentrating the movement in one spot may make it, well... entirely overlookable.



"Entirely overlookable" may be an overstatement. Mass purchases WILL be noticed.

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What's more eye-catching? 1,000,000 sales, or 100,000 sales spread over 10 places, 8 of which are much less likely to be seen?


Depends on which retailers. They're are all different sizes of businesses. "Reports from all over" about Firefly and Serenity DVDs getting swept up has a certain excitement to it.

Again, part of my concern is the P.R. backlash that could happen when retailers see that they didn't get to share in all the money to be made.

Quote:

I don't claim to know how all this works, I'm just trying to throw out constructive thoughts.


We all want what will work best for the endeavor. People offering their constructive thoughts helps the plan to take shape. I realize there's always the "too many cooks" risk, but if a certain aspect of the plan needs some more consideration, then it's worth it to discuss the pros and cons a bit more.

Sometimes the most well intentioned ideas can have unintended negative consequences. It's best to try and avoid those pitfalls ahead of time, rather than have to dig ourselves out afterward!

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Monday, April 17, 2006 6:37 PM

HERA


Quote:

Originally posted by RolandReynolds:
What's more eye-catching? 1,000,000 sales, or 100,000 sales spread over 10 places, 8 of which are much less likely to be seen?



I understand your point, RolandReynolds. I'm a great lover of databases and the power of numbers. But my independent side sees the democratic argument for spreading the joy (and revenue).

Also, I have a nightmare vision of myself driving around town to buy a hands-on DVD, only to find everyone sold out or unstocked and the 23rd drawing to a close. Yipes!

At that point I would run home quick like a bunny and do the online thang. As Mal would say, it's a good idea to have a Plan B.

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Monday, April 17, 2006 6:46 PM

11THHOUR


Quote:

Originally posted by Hera:
Also, I have a nightmare vision of myself driving around town to buy a hands-on DVD, only to find everyone sold out or unstocked and the 23rd drawing to a close. Yipes!

At that point I would run home quick like a bunny and do the online thang. As Mal would say, it's a good idea to have a Plan B.



I have a theory... it could be bunnies...

Well, one thing we do know is that the Amazon route will always be there in case other options fall through.

I'm wondering how Amazon does its sales ranking thing? I mean, are DVD sales ranked each day separately? Meaning, a wildly high amount of Firefly and Serenity DVD sales on June 23rd won't carry at all into the next days? That is, Serenity would be Number 1 on June 23rd whether it sold 2,000 or 20,000 units... and then the count starts all over again from zero on June 24th?

We wouldn't need every purchase to send the DVDs to #1 on Amazon for June 23rd, and if we spread the sales around we could get Serenity and Firefly at #1 on several other sites. That would be great!

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Monday, April 17, 2006 7:04 PM

SCAMETTI


I agree, we should spread out the sales a bit. For more reasons then one, get multiple places to sell out on the same day. The sales will get back to the “big players” in this game. I am sure this has been addressed, but is someone going to send a letter/email to Universal & Fox letting them know about our plan. That way it won’t matter at all where we buy, because they will be looking for it.


That’s my 2 cents….


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Monday, April 17, 2006 7:16 PM

GUYWHOWANTSAFIREFLYOFHISOWN


good 2 cents, I agree especially with the letter thing someone (not me as I have horrific handwriting) should send a letter to all the big players (fux, universal) telling them to look out for it

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Monday, April 17, 2006 10:34 PM

11THHOUR


Just wanted to add...

For those folks who feel that the only way to show big sales numbers is to concentrate all purchases on Amazon, well, don't worry none about that.

Amazon isn't really the one keeping tabs on ALL the Serenity DVD sales... that's Universal's job. They're the ones who keep count of all the orders and sales, the numbers will ALWAYS get back to them.

By buying from different retailers, they will have to reorder... and if enough of them see big upswings in sales, then there's a strong possibility they will reorder in BIGGER quantities. With all this big blast of attention on the Firefly and Serenity DVDs, the retailers will want to stay stocked. It's important to keep the DVDs a hot item all over the place.

Again, also keep in mind that buying the Serenity DVD directly from Universal most likely gives them more profit than sales from retailers. And you can be sure that when we buy from Universal, they'll know right away how big the numbers are.

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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 2:01 AM

DONCOAT


Here's a plan:

Those who are able to buy only one copy of Serenity that day, buy wherever you prefer.

Those who can afford more than one copy, buy one from Amazon, and the other(s) at Universal, Best Buy, local stores, or anyplace you can get your hot little hands on it.

I don't know whether this will be anything more than a blip on the radar, but I'm planning to do my bit as above.


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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 2:19 AM

XEYRA


You also have to consider any international fan that might want to contribute to this project. Buying from Amazon.com is not the best option, considering Region coding, shipping costs AND the possibility of having to pay costums duties. Of course, there's always the international Amazons (Amazon.co.uk, Amazon.de, etc.), but it still tends to add a lot to shipping price. It's easier, perhaps, to just buy it from a store.

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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 2:22 AM

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May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


11th Hour is right browncoats. Concentrating our efforts on Amazon may seem like a good idea, but I don't think it will be nearly as effective as spreading the sales around to multiple sources. Giving some of those sales to brick & mortar retailers will create orders from multiple sources to the distributor which is bound to spark some attention. As 11th said, Universal will see the DVD sales, regardless of what source they come from.

Buy the DVDs locally at retailers. This provides an enterprising browncoat w/ the opportunity to talk up the series & BDM to salespeople or owners, perhaps even other patrons. With the permission of the owner you can even hang up some of 11th shiny fliers to further promote the DVDs.

Think of the broader, long term strategy my friends. We want to create a surge of sales activity, but we also want to spread the word. We need longevity in order to reach our goal. A huge spike in sales that dissapears quickly is not likely to be as noticed as a huge peak in sales followed by a steady stream of sales brought about by our enthusiasm, spreading the word to new people, and convincing others to give the BDM a shot.

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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 2:26 AM

GLUEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Scametti:
The sales will get back to the “big players” in this game. I am sure this has been addressed, but is someone going to send a letter/email to Universal & Fox letting them know about our plan. That way it won’t matter at all where we buy, because they will be looking for it.





If the big retailers know about june 23rd, they might gear up for it by ordering more DVD's and placing them on a end aisle etc and promoting it for us.

I'm on vacation june 23rd and will not be able to place a order online with Amazon. I planned on locating a Best Buy to buy my disks.

One day.
One plan.
One army of Browncoats.

On June 23rd, we aim to misbehave.

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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 9:12 AM

PIRATA


I understand the concern, but simply put:

we wouldn't have an event.

And we need one.
So I follow what has been said already:
Let's order it directly from Universal!!

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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 11:00 AM

11THHOUR


Quote:

Originally posted by pirata:
I understand the concern, but simply put:

we wouldn't have an event.

And we need one.
So I follow what has been said already:
Let's order it directly from Universal!!



Well Universal was definitely included in the list of those I thought we should be buying the DVD from.

But, you may have an interesting point. IF we are only going to buy from one source, it needs to be Universal.

However, I still think we need to spread the sales around. Activity with a lot of retailers stirs things up ALL OVER. And again, buying them from different stores triggers more reorders, and possibly bigger reorders. We want lots of stores to notice the sales of Serenity and Firefly DVDs JUMP!

Regarding the one source purchase plan: I think someone suggested on another thread that if folks can buy more than one DVD, get one from the main target source, and then buy the additional copies from whichever retailer you want. Another possible route to take.

We're having good discussions on this plan. There's still some refining here and there needed on the mission, but overall... IT ROCKS.

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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:06 PM

OLDFOGEY


oh for heavens sake, just what i needs - another reason to go out and buy more Serenity DVDs.

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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:21 PM

KOVENANT


Im giving all my current DVDs to my kid brother and am restocking on 23. Im going to buy one of each type of Serenity and then the Firefly box set. After all, I can just give out the extras as gifts later on.

I don't think we should ALL purchase from the same retailer. If we do only that retailer will feel the effects and could simply consider it a good day, Nothing more. Now if sales go up all over, Press will sniff around and eventually get wind of what happened.

Skrew sending word to Universal, How do we get in contact with Joss to tell him of our plans?

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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:28 PM

11THHOUR


Quote:

Originally posted by Kovenant:
Im giving all my current DVDs to my kid brother and am restocking on 23. Im going to buy one of each type of Serenity and then the Firefly box set. After all, I can just give out the extras as gifts later on.



That's the beauty of keeping DVDs on hand for gifts... they don't need refrigeration and stay fresh FOREVER!

Quote:

I don't think we should ALL purchase from the same retailer. If we do only that retailer will feel the effects and could simply consider it a good day, Nothing more. Now if sales go up all over, Press will sniff around and eventually get wind of what happened.


Agreed. My first inclination is to spread the sales around, the media will notice... especially since fans are planning all kinds of related promotional events.

But if we do a "one source" deal, then it needs to be Universal.

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Skrew sending word to Universal, How do we get in contact with Joss to tell him of our plans?


Joss has minions who bring him tidings of new rumblings in the 'verse. Plus, his Jossness has been known to lurk message boards...

No worries, Joss will know of this, if he doesn't already that is... heh...

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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:39 PM

KURYA


Hey there.
I havent contributed much or at al to this(Im more worried about the charity screening...yikes :S I hope it can happen...). Anyways just wanted to give out a few thoughts, dont offer any solutions, but things to consider.

I think 11th hous is right in the sense is that if anyone should benefit(besides the independents..)is Universal ,so buying from their website would be best... but then the advantage of Amazon, the sales rank is seen by people...and so if its rising to the top of the charts on the first page, people may notice.... But in terms of negative PR and sentiment that may be more
important.

In terms of Amazon, I think its not day to day changing... .it actually changes over the hours, but its averaged over time...so the DVD will climb the charges slowly and then drop off slowly as the demand increases and decreases. At least I think thats how it works with books.

Now the other things are fears of mine. (they may have been addressed before) I am not trying to discourage...but just somethings popped into me head. First, we have an active online fandom group, but are we large enough? Is there nough of us? The fact is there wasnt high ticket sales forthe movie, because the fandom wasnt big...anbd al lthe online chatter, it felt like the fandom was of a decent size. Now I am scared that we do all this...and then after the day there was barely a blip, b/c the fandom isnt big... Its just a fear of mine.

And in terms of getting Universal to notice... if they are aware beforehand or find out after the day... they may just view it as just an amateurish gimmick. Would they take itseriously? It is true this has to be long term, and even if the sales bump up and there is a dent...I dont think that alone will convince them to green light a sequel. If people expect a sequel to be green lighted by this action, then I think people should think again. However, if this is a way to remind Universal that the fandom is still there... waiting, we aint going anywhere, then it may influence their future decisions(if its even in a slightly positive way then i would consider it mission accomplised). It may even convince them to release a suped up specia ledition (for R1 I hope).

Anyways, didnt want to be party pooper.. it sounds like a great plan and kaele et al. are doign a great jpob. I just hope people are not expecting a sequel to come out of this, but a show of fait hand goodwill to Universal that we are still here , care and we are not going away.
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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:41 PM

KURYA


In terms of getting Joss invovled... I think people have already said that Joss should not be anyway involved. He will find out about it and be pleased... but it has been mentioned that if Universal feels that Joss is in control or directly associated with this"army" or "crew", they may be really pissed off. This has to be a fan only thing.....
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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:57 PM

KOVENANT


What we need is a new poll, See which way people would prefer to buy their Firefly/Serenity DVDs. BTW do they sell Serenity in VHS format?

Oh, And I don't have any CD's yet, Anyone know if theirs a Soundtrack or (and preferably) an Original Movie Score?

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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:01 PM

11THHOUR


Quote:

Originally posted by kurya:
Now the other things are fears of mine. (they may have been addressed before) I am not trying to discourage...but just somethings popped into me head. First, we have an active online fandom group, but are we large enough? Is there nough of us? The fact is there wasnt high ticket sales forthe movie, because the fandom wasnt big...anbd al lthe online chatter, it felt like the fandom was of a decent size. Now I am scared that we do all this...and then after the day there was barely a blip, b/c the fandom isnt big... Its just a fear of mine.



An important point... which is why I pointed out on another thread that who we're battling isn't so much Universal to give us more Firefly/Serenity (which sometimes appeared to the tone from some well-intentioned fans.) Rather, we are battling the fact that SO MANY people are still unaware of Firefly and Serenity... tons of people who would be fans if they only knew. It will be the voices, and money, of legions of fans that will get Universal's attention.

So part of this endeavor isn't just getting everyone who already knows about FF/S to buy DVDs on June 23rd, it's also about doing lots, and lots, and lots, and LOTS of promoting to bring Firefly and Serenity to the attention of the general public. A lot of fans are planning screenings and other events which will be great for increasing awareness.

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And in terms of getting Universal to notice... if they are aware beforehand or find out after the day... they may just view it as just an amateurish gimmick. Would they take itseriously?


Universal might possibly view it as an amateurish gimmick... but it's an amateurish gimmick WITH MONEY! This isn't the fans dressing up in Firefly costumes and picketing their headquarters... this will be folks buying their product... they'll LOVE that part.

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It is true this has to be long term, and even if the sales bump up and there is a dent...I dont think that alone will convince them to green light a sequel. If people expect a sequel to be green lighted by this action, then I think people should think again. However, if this is a way to remind Universal that the fandom is still there... waiting, we aint going anywhere, then it may influence their future decisions(if its even in a slightly positive way then i would consider it mission accomplised). It may even convince them to release a suped up specia ledition (for R1 I hope).


This event may not immediately get the wheels in motion to start production on the next incarnation of Firefly. However, it WILL do wonders for increasing FF/S awareness to new fans, throw good faith and money at Universal, and be a big message that we're still holdin'.

This event will bring in new fans and attract media attention. Building our fan base increases the momentum to create a clamor for more Firefly/Serenity.

We may not win this campaign with one big battle, but it's all the successful battles and skirmishes put together that'll get us there.

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Anyways, didnt want to be party pooper.. it sounds like a great plan and kaele et al. are doign a great jpob. I just hope people are not expecting a sequel to come out of this, but a show of fait hand goodwill to Universal that we are still here , care and we are not going away.


Well reasoned, thoughtful, constructive feedback is always a good thing. I'm glad you are adding your thoughts to the mix. It's very tricky to get so many fans to agree on the details of how to conduct the campaign, but we all want the same outcome... more Firefly/Serenity. Let's just keep our heads and remember this is a long term battle where enthusisam and passion are a must, but reason and thinking several steps ahead are just as important.

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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:28 PM

AGATSU


I think it's very important to point out that this whole thing could backfire and turn into a total desaster.
If at the end of the day, there'll just be a few hundred DVDs bought and the screenings half attended after we boasted about how big this is gonna be (especially to Universal), we're dead.
If all Browncoats literally put their money where their mouth is and try to pull in as many new people as possible, on the other hand, then we could be making fandom history (- again for those around for round 1, I salute you. ).
So stay focused and stay motivated, guys. 2 months may not be that much to organize a global event, but it's a lot of time to lose motivation or get distracted. Although this is a lame Braveheart rip-off, I'd like to later be able to tell people that I was THERE when that Big Damn Fandom Thing happened back in '06, wanna see the scar?


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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 8:13 PM

KURYA


Hey
(I just have to say i posted more often on this site today then all the time before :P). Anyways thank you 11th hour for dealing with my concerns. I have read more of the threads(dang there are sooo many!!) and you guys seem quite devoted and not deolusional hehe. I already posted on the browncoats crew thread so kaele and others can see...as long as the goals are realistic(dont expect a sequel to be greenloighted b/c of the campign), then I think this campaign will be something. Plus it will give the newbies something to do...and dang they neeed to be useful! And it could easily involve the rest of the fandom, and helphave a second(third fourth whateva) push for people to poster, to advertise to show friends/relatives to donate to libraries the dvds(and help make Universal money).

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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 9:10 PM

UKSOUTHBROWNCOAT


Hiya all, I'll be buying dvds from universal on 23rd but really take your point about the supporting of local traders and the chance to create some friendly feeling through telling them a bit about the backing the series and BDM has on the net and how we're promoting sales/rentals on 23rd, giving them posters and talking them into putting them up. Feels like we need to explore this a bit more to get the most from it somehow. Think we should send our Kaylee, Wash and Inara types on this job;-)

Got any more thoughts on this? Putting their store names on a roll call of honour on the site somewhere if they put up the posters and going back later to ask how they did on the day and thanking them?

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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 4:44 AM

KURYA


Thats an interesting idea. Basically it seems there are various venues & outlets and ways to participate in this campaign, and supporting local vendors is a good thinking. And having Inara types? uhhh that might be a bit expensive.. :P



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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 5:22 AM

PIRATA


Quote:

I think it's very important to point out that this whole thing could backfire and turn into a total desaster.
If at the end of the day, there'll just be a few hundred DVDs bought and the screenings half attended after we boasted about how big this is gonna be (especially to Universal), we're dead.


No, I don't think this can happen.
WORST CASE Scenario, it'll be a neautral effect.

The sequel WILL get done, if Serenity sells a lot, overall.
If Serenity sells not_so_well, it might still be done if the producers try and bet again on the franchise, this time investing something in promotion.
This "event" may show them how crazy the audience can become over the 'verse, and thus push them a little to the "good" side.
At worst, we'd be ineffective, but have a backfire?! Not possible, imho.

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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 5:42 AM

KURYA


Yeah.... in terms of backfire...I doubt it...especially ifthe fans can keep levelheaded and on the goal of marketing this thing locally and buying the Serenity dvds do charity screenings etc(even writing nice letters/postcards to Universal), then it wont backfire. As long as people participating in this see it as a long term fight and dont expect a sequel to be greenlighted like the day after.


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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 5:52 AM

AGATSU


Well, it's going to strongly discredit the Browncoat community in any case, and most importantly, stomp the motivation into the dust. It would also show that there's less of us than we thought, and ultimately, that we are indeed not that mighty. Maybe even the execs at Universal are gonna be surprised at the LACK of participation and go, ah, well, good thing we haven't talked to Joss about that new offer we wanted to make him. You never know. If you raise expectations, be sure you can keep them.
Someone should have told that to George Lucas.

Anyways, since I had only been thinking about what good could come out of this, I pondered a bit about what bad could come out of it.


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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 6:10 AM

PIZMOBEACH

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Quote:

Originally posted by Agatsu:
Anyways, since I had only been thinking about what good could come out of this, I pondered a bit about what bad could come out of it.



Certainly a lot more bad can come out of NOT doing this

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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 7:08 AM

BRITCHICK


Quote:

Originally posted by Kovenant:

Oh, And I don't have any CD's yet, Anyone know if theirs a Soundtrack or (and preferably) an Original Movie Score?

::-K-O-V-E-N-A-N-T-::



Movie Soundtrack http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000AYYUGQ/sr=1-1/qid=1145466258/ref=
sr_1_1/103-9595002-3441443?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=music


FIREFLY SOUNDTRACK
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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 7:37 AM

HERA


Quote:

Originally posted by pizmobeach:
Certainly a lot more bad can come out of NOT doing this



I agree, Pizmobeach.

I mentioned in another thread that Universal should understand that we are actively RECRUITING new purchasers of the Serenity DVD, so they will have a larger fan-base to watch the sequel and buy it's DVD. Not just the same fans buying additional copies to sit on their shelf.

We recruit them, they will join us, they will watch the sequel with us.

"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas

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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 7:51 AM

AGATSU


Of course. I was just saying...

One day.
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One army of Browncoats.

On June 23rd, we aim to misbehave.

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