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Whedon on Firefly in Salon

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Tuesday, May 20, 2003 5:51 AM

SHINY


http://www.salon.com/ent/tv/int/2003/05/20/whedon/print.html

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This season you've had to come up with the ultimate villain, and the First, being disembodied, presents some challenges. Now you have introduced an evil priest as its main henchman, and I think he could be the scariest bad guy so far.

He's pretty creepy, isn't he? I love Nathan [Fillion]. He's an extraordinary actor who would not have been available had a certain door not shut, however temporarily [a reference to Whedon's series "Firefly," starring Fillion, which was canceled last year]. I want to come down against the patriarchy and there was simply no more potent image. At the same time, I'm not coming down against priests. This guy clearly is not one. He's very bad at it.



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What's next on the agenda for you? You made an allusion to the demise of "Firefly" being only temporary.

I have hopes that there may be another venue for "Firefly," although I don't have any proof yet. But I've been fighting to find a place to do a version of that because I like the story so well and the actors so well.



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Was that a big change to do a show that was centered on a grown man instead of a young woman?

It's so funny, because I have a lot of movie ideas and they all tend to revolve around young adolescent female superheroes. But not "Firefly." This one is about Joe Schmo, everyday life, and then of course I introduce River, the young female superhero. Let's face it, I'm just addicted. But it was nice to have a show that was about different perspectives and to really get to explore all of them. I was excited that I was going to have a happily married couple that was not boring. Because that's just so rare in fiction and it's such an important thing in life. And yet apart from [Dashiell Hammett's] Thin Man series, I think it's never really been adequately represented. And I had a preacher on board, to explore the concept of faith, people who don't have it and people who do. And of course the captain was the me figure because he's very tall and handsome, but cranky and also slim.





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Tuesday, May 20, 2003 6:19 AM

SARAHETC


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To me its interesting that he refers to River as a "superhero." Makes me think that all of us with our heads tight together would never be able to conceive of the arc he had/has planned for her.

Sarah

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

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Tuesday, May 20, 2003 6:49 AM

SLOWSMURF


Well I think the whole instantly killing 3 people without looking was good enough :)

Do that on command and I'll call you a super hero!

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Tuesday, May 20, 2003 6:58 AM

LIVINGIMPAIRED


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And of course the captain was the me figure because he's very tall and handsome, but cranky and also slim.


See? This is why Joss Whedon is my hero; he's so modest! *Sob* Why, oh why, does he have to be married and out of my age bracket?

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Tuesday, May 20, 2003 8:24 AM

CHRISTHECYNIC


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Originally posted by Sarahetc:
Thanks for sharing your subscription stuff with us, Shiny.

To me its interesting that he refers to River as a "superhero." Makes me think that all of us with our heads tight together would never be able to conceive of the arc he had/has planned for her.

Sarah

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case



I don't know, River definitely looks to be able to be quite heroic. If you like comics then you might know that Daredevil was a super hero and he only had really good senses (except sight) River is psychic, and that could be put to good use by an otherwise normal person making them super hero like.

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Tuesday, May 20, 2003 8:31 AM

SARAHETC


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Thanks for sharing your subscription stuff with us, Shiny.

To me its interesting that he refers to River as a "superhero." Makes me think that all of us with our heads tight together would never be able to conceive of the arc he had/has planned for her.

Sarah

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case



I don't know, River definitely looks to be able to be quite heroic.



Right. But the details, man! The details!

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Tuesday, May 20, 2003 9:30 AM

SIGNYM

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For a dead series, it sure generates a lot of press! heheheheh

Thanks ever so much for the info!

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Wednesday, May 21, 2003 8:13 AM

SHINY


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Thanks for sharing your subscription stuff with us, Shiny.



You're welcome, but I'm not really subscribed, Salon gives you free day subscriptions if you are willing to sit through a 20-second advertisement window (sigh, the things I'll do for Firefly news!) ;)

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Wednesday, May 21, 2003 8:23 AM

NONOLUNA


There's also that reference to 'The Thin Man' series...:-) It's so amazing!

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Wednesday, May 21, 2003 8:28 AM

RIVERSIDE


The Thin Man!
I love Joss!
And I love Nick and Nora.

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Wednesday, May 21, 2003 8:53 AM

MATWANG


I saw River as "The Agenging Angel" -- starting in the episode where she shot the 3 guys in about 5 minutes (was it Ariel? I'm not sure help me out here kids)

Although perhaps "Agenging but mentally-stable? not-so-much Angel" is a better description.

I mean, they'd just broken her story out of the hat when Fox canned the series.

That was what made me the saddest. I really wanted to follow River's character development. She could have been our next Buffy, only less predictable, which is potentially more interesting.

We'll just have to wait a bit longer to hear the story, is all. It's in Joss' head, so we can be sure it's coming...

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Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:57 AM

SHINY


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Originally posted by MaTwang:
I saw River as "The Agenging Angel" -- starting in the episode where she shot the 3 guys in about 5 minutes (was it Ariel? I'm not sure help me out here kids)



Do you mean "Avenging Angel"? Anyway, it was in War Stories and it was more like 3 guys in 1.5 seconds.

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