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Possible Alternate Reason FF was Cancelled

POSTED BY: TANSTAAFL28
UPDATED: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 17:44
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Monday, March 13, 2006 4:37 PM

TANSTAAFL28


I'm sure there's been a million of 'em thought up by now. What if world events had something to do with it?

Politics is is merely economics in action.

Think about it. In 2002, Bush was about to invade Iraq and Fox has always been an ardent supporter of all things Bush. The "Bushites" represent the Alliance in many ways.

The last thing they want to be promoting/supporting is a show centered around a group of rebels who buck the system every chance they get.

"You can't take the sky from me..."

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Monday, March 13, 2006 4:44 PM

MARMOSET54


Ummm...right. And Inara's liquid vial is for time-traveling.


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Monday, March 13, 2006 6:32 PM

ADAMWANKENOBI


I wouldn't doubt it, myself. The Bush Administration basically controls the media. And the entire FOX company is notorious for its collective Republican support and beliefs.

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Monday, March 13, 2006 6:39 PM

RAKARR


I think it is just cuz FOX is stupid.

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Monday, March 13, 2006 6:52 PM

DUG


The economy went in the crapper in 2001, if you remember. Way before September 11. We couldn't sell ads to save our lives at my radio station; Cheap Channel had already slashed staff by 30% twice before 9/11. After that day advertising was completely dead for over a year.

As stated earlier in this thread, something like politics is economics in action. And economics sometimes happen without politics. With no money coming in media execs were going batsh!t no matter what their politics were and were killing anything out of the ordinary in order to protect themselves with "cost-cuting measures". We don't need to look for right-wing conspiracies here, just incompetent decisions from suits worried about the bottom line and about covering their @sses.

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Monday, March 13, 2006 7:59 PM

BROWNCOATER


I don't doubt it either. Especially when the bad guys in FF were specifically referred to as "The Feds."

Same with The Lone Gunmen, the spin off of X-Files. Released just prior to 9-11 I believe, the pilot episode shows one of the LG looking a computer simulation of a plane flying into skyscrapers. Don't recall if it was the WTC or not.
Cancelled after 6 episodes.

Does that seem right to you?

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Monday, March 13, 2006 8:26 PM

PIRATENEWS

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Quote:

Originally posted by tanstaafl28:

Think about it. In 2002, Bush was about to invade Iraq and Fox has always been an ardent supporter of all things Bush. The "Bushites" represent the Alliance in many ways.

The last thing they want to be promoting/supporting is a show centered around a group of rebels who buck the system every chance they get.



You betcha. But it's even worse than you know - it usually is.

Sir George Bush Sr Knight of the British Empire (CIA) now OWNS Serenity TBDM, when his Pentagon Carlyle Group bought Universal Studios. Carlyle is also owned by the Bin Ladens (CIA/MI6) and the Queen of England (MI6 queen of the Anglo-Sino Alliance)...
www.thecarlylegroup.com
www.hereinreality.com/carlyle.html

Quote:

Carlyle Joins Davis in Vivendi Offer

Mar 1, 2003
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters)

The Carlyle Group, one of the world's top private equity firms, has joined with oil tycoon Marvin Davis and others in a bid to buy U.S. entertainment assets of media giant Vivendi Universal, the Los Angeles Times reported on Saturday.

The Carlyle Group, whose advisors have included former U.S. President George Bush and former British Prime Minister John Major, has teamed up with Davis and private equity firms Bain Capital and Texas Pacific Group to buy a controlling interest in Vivendi's assets.

The media giant's U.S. entertainment assets include Universal's movie studio, theme parks and music company.

www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=29358



Fox is owned by Sir Rupert Murdock Knight of the British Empire (MI6), from Australia, married to a Commie Chinese wife.

Australia is part of the 55-nation British Commonwealth, run by the Queen of England, for the British Empire that outvotes every nation by 55 votes to 1 in United Nations Corporation. The Communist Manifesto was written by Karl Marx in London, England. England defeated China in 2 Opium Wars, and has run China ever since, which is why they gave Hong Kong and Taiwan to the Commies. This is Joss' Anglo-Sino Alliance FOR REAL. Joss reads history books for inspiration...

USA is NOW merged with Canada and Mexico via NAFTA SHAFTA, so USA NO LONGER EXISTS AS A NATION. That's why there's 30-million illegal aliens in USA today, with immunity from arrest, with 70-million on the way. Canada is part of the British Commonwealth run by the German Queen of England, who is George Bush Jr's third cousin. SO USA HAS NOW LOST THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR TO THE BRITISH EMPIRE.

The Most Dangerous Game is a documentary about Cathy O'Brien and her electro-lobotomized daughter Kelly, who were some of Joss' models for River, in the CIA's Project Monarch MKULTRA slave program, which also produces robotic assassins - FOR REAL. The Blue Room torture of River in Serenity TBDM is straight out of O'Brien's books at www.Trance-Formation.com . But the Powers That Be spiked the movie, just like they spiked Firefly and Serenity. Presidential model prostitute and porn star O'Brien testified in Tennessee courts that Bush Sr, Cheney and other world dictators raped her and her daughter. White House lawyers confessed in court that was TRUE, and Tennessee judges ruled that rape, pedophilia, cocaine trafficking, torture-based mind-control and Satanic serial killings are now LEGAL "for (t)reasons of national security".

Clips from the censored movie:
www.gnn.tv/videos/3/The_Most_Dangerous_Game
www.piratenews.org/video-archive.html
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/piratenewsrss/message/131

FF and STBDM dredges all that up again, along with the underground resistance to the Bush Gang's New World Order Alliance. Joss made a gutsy move with FF, so it was censored before its first episode. Note that Bush/Universal/Interscope also bought out Eminem's Mosh and Jadakiss' Why? Both songs accuse Bush of perping the 9/11 terrorism, so Bush simply bought them out and spiked 'em - while still profiting from them.

Quote:

BROWNCOATER wrote:

I don't doubt it either. Especially when the bad guys in FF were specifically referred to as "The Feds."

Same with The Lone Gunmen, the spin off of X-Files. Released just prior to 9-11 I believe, the pilot episode shows one of the LG looking a computer simulation of a plane flying into skyscrapers. Don't recall if it was the WTC or not. Cancelled after 6 episodes.

Does that seem right to you?



Roger that. Yes, a US airliner was hijacked by CIA/Pentagon via remote control and targeted at the WTC, 6 months before 9/11/2001. This was based on a TRUE story of US history, Operation Northwoods, as declassified in 2000, and reported by ABC News on May 1, 2001. But no TV network is allowed to report this fact, since USA no longer exists, so its left up to Independents like me at PNTV. What Joss leaves out - so far - is the Resistance INSIDE the Alliance, which currently is waging a Civil War in what's left of USA. Ex-Alliance like Book, Inara, River and Dr T aren't the only one's fighting back, which is what really scares the Bush Gang. Insiders are the only ones who really know how the monster works. As an ex-fed myself, I empathize with Book - but without all the bloody dying.

Lone Gunmen video download with Pentagon Operation Northwoods
September 911 Surprise - Episode 2
www.september911surprise.com

Lone Gunman pilot episode video of WTC attack:
http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2005/09/6758.php

Lone Gunman pilot episode script of WTC attack:
www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/lonegunmen.html

Alex Jones Interviews X-Files/Lone Gunmen Star Dean Haglund about the Lone Gunmen episode that aired prior to September 11th in which an inside faction of the government posing as terrorists hijacks a 727 by remote control and targets the World Trade Center. Hagland says CIA fed ideas to X-Files scriptwriters.
www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2005/280105coasttocoast.htm

Wash: That sounds like something out of science fiction.
Zoe: My other husband was in The Matrix, Dear.

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Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:07 AM

AUSSAY


Fox cancelled dozens of shows during the Iraq invasion so I think it was just beacause Fox sucks

"Shake your head boy, your eyes are stuck"

www.fireflyfans.net
http://www.browncoatsriseagain.com/

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Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:24 AM

SERENITYFOREVER


Hey Pirate News,

Nurse skipped your meds?

I hate it when that happens.

I'm sure she'll realize the mistake and give you a double dose to catch up. Sweet dreams, cupcake.

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Tuesday, March 14, 2006 3:43 AM

CHRISMOORHEAD


Y'know, both parties have had delusions of themselves being "freedom fighters trying to make it in the world and give the government what for" over the past many many years. Back when Clinton was in office, the Ruepublicans were the "down and out" party that a lot of people went running two. All I see is two parties switching off control of an opressive empire and trying to appeal to their respective crowds of blind followers.

Firefly is very obviously loosely based off of what it has been admitted to being many times before: The Civil War. Back then, the Southern Democrates supported many issues that Republicans support today, and vice versa. One party feeling opressed by the other is a re-occuring event in US History, it's supposed to be that way, and I don't see how they justify painting themselves as "Freedom Fighters" just because they're the ones who currently have the short end of the stick.

No matter who goes into office, they're always gonna be a rich bastard with connections who live far outside the masses of people that they claim to represent. Supporting Bush is just as much supporting the evil empire as would be supporting Clinton, Bush Sr., or Kerry.

Here's to chaos and anarchy. Go see V for Vendetta!

Have you ever:
Used your teeth as wire strippers?
Given yourself stitches?
Made improvised munitions with no base supplies?
Pissed in a canteen?
Gone a month without bathing?

If so, you MIGHT just be a !HOOAH MOTHERF*CKER!

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Tuesday, March 14, 2006 4:52 AM

JONESTEIN


I really get tired of every gorram problem in the 'verse getting blamed on the Bush Administration, hypothetical or not. Yeah, Iraq was a ruttin' mistake...should have focused on Afghanistan. But if the US pulls out now, Bush-bashers will wail about the mess we left the country in; if we stay, the Hate Bush Cuz We're Supposed To Crowd will wail on about the "occupation".

It doesn't matter what the Bush Admistration does, bashers will find SOMETHING to raise indignant hell about and bash for the sake of bashing, period.

And no, I'm not a republican...I'm not a democrat either. I have no political party. The big two are BOTH a bunch of corrupt, uber-rich hwoon dahns. I'm just sick of the constant infusion of anti-Bush-this, anti-Bush-that into my entertainment.

And puh-leeze, you pseudo-intellectual politicos, don't bother trying to convince me otherwise.

Whew...thank gawd that rant is over with, where the hell did that come from?



-Jonestein
http://jonestein.blogspot.com/
*************************************
OPERATIVE: ...and I'm unarmed.
MAL: Good.
(BLAM!)

FIGHT TO RE-LIGHT!!
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Tuesday, March 14, 2006 5:20 AM

PHILYBURKHILL


I think it's for the poor ratings it got.

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Tuesday, March 14, 2006 5:20 AM

IHEARTFIREFLY


Holy crap, PirateNews. That cracked me the heck up. I love it!

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Tuesday, March 14, 2006 5:31 AM

CORNCOBB


Wouldn't surprise me in the least. I remember post 9/11, the US government specifically told Hollywood to avoid making anything unpatriotic. Also, many radio stations were banned from playing certain songs, including John Lennons 'Imagine' (wtf??). I havent heard of them poking their noses into what could be shown on TV, but if they interfered in the business of Hollywood, then I dont think TV would have escaped. Most likely FOX weren't specifically told to take FF off the air, they just did so out of fear of pissing someone off

"Gorramit Mal... I've forgotten my line."

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Tuesday, March 14, 2006 6:26 AM

DUG


Quote:

Also, many radio stations were banned from playing certain songs, including John Lennons 'Imagine' (wtf??)


There was no government ban on any songs, either demanded or even requested. Many individual stations decided not to air certain songs that they considered inappropriate and some large chains shared lists with their program directors in case some songs hadn't been thought of before they were aired...but the decisions were at our local leverls, not even corporate.

To give a completely non-9/11 comparison, when the Pope was shot one automated country station is supposed to have followed the newscast with the song "Drop-Kick me Jesus Through the Goal Post of Life". Would you want to be the guy responsible for that?

If you want to slam the media there's plenty to work with that is true; use the conference call that Clear Channel had with all of their program directors 2 or 3 days after the WTC fell where the head of the company instructed us to milk 9/11 for every ratings point we could.

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Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:44 AM

INDIANABANZAI


A wizard did it.

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Tuesday, March 14, 2006 10:27 AM

CORNCOBB



Quote:

There was no government ban on any songs, either demanded or even requested. Many individual stations decided not to air certain songs that they considered inappropriate and some large chains shared lists with their program directors in case some songs hadn't been thought of before they were aired...but the decisions were at our local leverls, not even corporate.




My mistake. This is most likely what I was thinking of. Similar situation though. And I'm sure about Hollywood.

"Gorramit Mal... I've forgotten my line."

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Tuesday, March 14, 2006 10:42 AM

WHOME


Quote:

Originally posted by dug:
Quote:

Also, many radio stations were banned from playing certain songs, including John Lennons 'Imagine' (wtf??)


There was no government ban on any songs, either demanded or even requested. Many individual stations decided not to air certain songs that they considered inappropriate and some large chains shared lists with their program directors in case some songs hadn't been thought of before they were aired...but the decisions were at our local leverls, not even corporate.

To give a completely non-9/11 comparison, when the Pope was shot one automated country station is supposed to have followed the newscast with the song "Drop-Kick me Jesus Through the Goal Post of Life". Would you want to be the guy responsible for that?

If you want to slam the media there's plenty to work with that is true; use the conference call that Clear Channel had with all of their program directors 2 or 3 days after the WTC fell where the head of the company instructed us to milk 9/11 for every ratings point we could.



Right. I was a reporter at a local newspaper at the time of 9/11/01, and I remember driving to town hall (or wherever the hell I was going- I was all over town that day) and hearing "Papa Loved Mama" on the radio. (For those who don't know Garth Brooks songs, this one involves a jealous husband driving his truck into the motel room his wife and her lover are using.) I was stunned. How could anyone play a song like that on a day like that? Then I realized that it was probably just part of a pre-set playlist, and everyone was too distracted by the developing news to think about the lyrics. I imagine they got more than a few complaints.
I am entirely against governmental censorship of controversial music/books/etc., but a little responsible self-censorship can be a good thing. People forget that media types are just human beans, who make mistakes that are NOT part of a conspiracy to melt your brain or take your gun or whatever.

Terrifying space monkeys!

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Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:25 AM

PIRATENEWS

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Quote:

Originally posted by Corncobb:

Wouldn't surprise me in the least. I remember post 9/11, the US government specifically told Hollywood to avoid making anything unpatriotic. Also, many radio stations were banned from playing certain songs, including John Lennons 'Imagine' (wtf??).



6 months before 9/11/2001, the local university radio station WUTK replaced all DJs with robots, and cancelled all news programs. One of their comedy programs was The Rich Flemball Show, by a local theater group. They were the only broadcaster in the region for Counterspin and The Nation, which attacked many of the genocides perped by US govt. They also heavily censored their song list. That was the same week that Pentagon's Operation Northwoods was reported by ABC News, about the US govt plan to hijack US airliners by remote control, blow them up by remote control, then blame an innocent nation to falsely justify invasion and war. My website includes Clear Channel's and BBC's lists of censored songs.
www.geocities.com/wutk_censored

Our town's pirate radio station KFAR (Jewish Commies) was raided by FBI right before the last election. They were playing many of those censored songs, plus the indy songs that are never played on network stations. Some of those songs accused Bush of perping the 9/11 terrorist massacres. They were not interfering with any licensed station, and FCC turned down every application for a license. They played the best music in town, since it wasn't endless rotation of the same old songs that drove you crazy years ago.
http://crok.org

The US govt does have a de facto ban on anything it wants, by withholding FCC licenses, and withholding "advertising" and "CAFR pension fund investments". Bush Jr has spent billions of taxdollars on covert propaganda in USA, paid only to those who follow orders. $70-trillion in CAFR pension funds are looted every year, much of it used to fund the garbage on TV and radio networks. Do you really think Jewish drug addict Rush Limbaugh is paid a $270-million contract because he tells the truth? That's called bribery.

That's why I have a weekly TV show broadcasting censored music videos to 110,000 sheeple. And I get a lot of censorship from ATT, COMCAST, Google, Yahoo and other website hosts and ISPs. My sponsors get telephone threats that cost them money when their wimpy sponsors get threats. Colleges have tried to ban my websites when I was a student, while other colleges require reading my websites for political science. I've gotten taperecorded telephone death threats from employees of Gangsta Govt, and bullet holes in my car for appearing on TV during trial of a US govt hitman convicted of murder. If you're not catching flak, you're not over the target. If you're not making waves, you're not rowin the boat fast enough. You can download my free music videos, but Homeland Security might take you away:
www.piratenews.org/video-archive.html

Quote:

Pirate News TV Music Videos #3

Your video does not comply with our policy guidelines.

-Video.Google.com, 2006-03-03



What about you? Am I gettin any prettier?
-Mal

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Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:30 AM

MICJWELCH


I don't think Joss Whedon was worried about politics at all when he created the show. I know Gene Roddenberry was always trying to make political statements, but I don't see those here. Sure, there are good messages to get out of it, but this show was not out to change the world. It's entertainment. Fox just made another stupid decision on this one. No consipiracy. Sorry.

"We may experience some slight turbulence, and then... explode."

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Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:42 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by SerenityForever:

Hey Pirate News,

Nurse skipped your meds?

I hate it when that happens.

I'm sure she'll realize the mistake and give you a double dose to catch up. Sweet dreams, cupcake.



Your homework assignment today is to read Operation Northwoods, and write a 1,000-word essay on what meds you prescribe for your dictators. Narcoterror kingpin Bush Sr was prescribed Halcion when he was officially president, in addition to his use of alcohol, cocaine, heroin and XTC. Junior is reportedly on numerous psychiatric medications now, in addition to alcohol and cocaine.


Mugshot of crack ho Noelle Bush
Mexican daughter of Governor JEB Bush
arrested for smoking crack in the Loony Bin
and arrested for "attempting to obtain
a controlled substance through fraud"
just like "Rush" Limbaugh
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noelle_Bush
www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/noellebush1.html

For extra credit, write a 500-word essay on the RICO Act lawsuits accusing the Junior White House of domestic terrorism on 9/11/2001. Presuming, of course, your head does not explode.

Quote:

"Operation NORTHWOODS may be the most corrupt plan ever created by the U.S. government. Operation Northwoods had called for nothing less than the launch of a secret campaign of terrorism within the United States in order to blame Castro and provoke a war with Cuba."
—James Bamford, ABC News, "Friendly Fire - U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Terrorize U.S. Cities to Provoke War With Cuba," May 1, 2001
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1
www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/doc1.pdf
www.financialoutrage.org.uk/911_mainstream_media.htm
www.mackwhite.com/northwoods.html (cartoon)

"The RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act) action lawsuit against President Bush and other high level members of his administration is based upon prior knowledge of 9/11; knowingly failing to act, prevent or warn of 9/11; and the ongoing obstruction of justice by covering up the truth of 9/11; all in violation of the laws of the United States."
—Philip Berg, attorney-at-law and former prosecutor in U.S. Attorney General's office, Press Release re Mariani v. Bush et al.
www.911ForTheTruth.com
www.SueTheTerrorists.net
www.September911Surprise.com



And you expect these gorram bastards to allow Firefly to fly again? When you deal all the cocaine and heroin in the world, retail price $1-billion/ton, you can afford to buy everything you want, including Hollywood. You think Mal is a smuggler, Bush Sr and the Queen of England are the king and queen of smuggling, but without the moral compass.

If arresting the Bush Gang and locking them up for life, or executing them at Gitmo, is what it takes to restart Firefly and Serenity, I'm all for it. If that's what Joss has to do, I'm sure he'll get it done.

Looks like we got some imminent violence!
-Jayne

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Tuesday, March 14, 2006 1:48 PM

PIRATENEWS

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Quote:

Originally posted by dug:

The economy went in the crapper in 2001, if you remember. Way before September 11. We couldn't sell ads to save our lives at my radio station; Cheap Channel had already slashed staff by 30% twice before 9/11. After that day advertising was completely dead for over a year.

As stated earlier in this thread, something like politics is economics in action. And economics sometimes happen without politics. With no money coming in media execs were going batsh!t no matter what their politics were and were killing anything out of the ordinary in order to protect themselves with "cost-cuting measures". We don't need to look for right-wing conspiracies here, just incompetent decisions from suits worried about the bottom line and about covering their @sses.



But Clear Channel had plenty of money to buy the Black Box Voting Machines to get their Republican family members elected to Congress:
www.infowars.com/print/misc/dacy.htm

They're whores.
-Mal

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Tuesday, March 14, 2006 4:19 PM

BROWNCOATCRUSADER


I agree, lately i've been thinking: "the teachings of FF make me think, are we meddeling in Iraq like the Alliance.

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Tuesday, March 14, 2006 5:44 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

MICJWELCH wrote:

I don't think Joss Whedon was worried about politics at all when he created the show. I know Gene Roddenberry was always trying to make political statements, but I don't see those here. Sure, there are good messages to get out of it, but this show was not out to change the world. It's entertainment. Fox just made another stupid decision on this one. No consipiracy. Sorry.



Poly ticks (many blood-sucking creatures) is always important in the sales business.

There are 2 ways to make big bucks fast in Hollywood. First, write scripts that suck up to the elitists currently in power, like Jerry Bruckheimer. Second, blow the whistle on elitists in power, then get a promotion to shut up, like Michael Moore.

I hope Joss wasn't forced to take the latter route. Maybe elitists still think the sheeple are so stupid that they can't see Serenity for what it's plot is about - CIA's Project Monarch MKULTRA zombie program.

Then maybe Serenity 2 or Firefly 2 will get funded, if only for elitists to laff at the stupid sheeple and take their money. Oops, I better shut up or the sheeple might WTF up. Doh!

Actually, I doubt the elitists have anything to worry about. And 7,000 dumb sheeple get slaughtered and cannibalized every day in USA, with no hope of waking up.


If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh and sew our skins into their clothing and if we're very very lucky, they'll do it in that order.
-Zoe

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