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Tuesday, February 28, 2006 11:45 AM

WHISKEYJAKE


Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJester:
Man. Bitter much Xero?

You don't like the new BSG, we get that. The old BSG would have been great(er) if the networks hadn't meddled, we get that too. But you called my friend a jackass for no good reason, 'cept perhaps she poked fun at you.

I was willing to read to your arguments, even though I disagree with most of them. The way you polarize the issue - something is either the greatest ever, or the absolute worst - is a great attitude for blind polemics, not so much for a discussion among friends.

Let's just watch the namecalling, eh? No, I'm no-one important. No penalty for telling me to go to hell. I'm just a Browncoat, asking for a little civility.





MAL "You only gotta scare him."
JAYNE "Pain is scary..."

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Afreakinmen. I have noted a tendency on any forum type site I'm on that you will always find someone who is overly opinionated and under socialized enough to flame anyone who disagrees with them.

As to BSG, I'm going to be catching up with it once the second season rolls over into reruns. It's a good show if you don't make the mistake so many obviously have. It's not the original. Don't compare it to the original. The original was good for it's time but it would fail miserablly in today's market.

"These are cold blooded killers, they ain't cuddly like me."

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Tuesday, February 28, 2006 11:47 AM

HIXIE129


BSG is my favorite. That episode of SCAR was really good And Scar will be back which is even better.



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Tuesday, February 28, 2006 12:15 PM

BISHOP76


Unfortunately, Scar won't be back. Remember, they destroyed the Ressurection Ship? It was one of the few (very few) standout episodes of Season 2.5, though. Since it's restarted for season 2.5, I've enjoyed Ressurection Ship (both parts), Scar, and now Downloaded - everything else in there was pretty lousy.

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Tuesday, February 28, 2006 12:44 PM

ALMIGHTYWOOKIE


Quote:

Originally posted by Bishop76:
Unfortunately, Scar won't be back. Remember, they destroyed the Ressurection Ship? It was one of the few (very few) standout episodes of Season 2.5, though. Since it's restarted for season 2.5, I've enjoyed Ressurection Ship (both parts), Scar, and now Downloaded - everything else in there was pretty lousy.



They destroyed A resurrection ship, chances are like with all things Cylon, there'll be another. You don't think they'd spend 40 years of planning galactic domination and only build one surely?

"The man they call...MEEE"

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Tuesday, February 28, 2006 12:47 PM

WHISKEYJAKE


Quote:

Originally posted by XeroGravity:
Darkjester:

Hmm let's see. Knibblet calls me ignorant and bigoted. Doesn't add any substance to the debate. Just calls me names. So I called her a jackass. Why? Because she's a jackass.

Enter stage left:

You come charging to the rescue (you're so very heroic). There's always your type out there... cloaked in false group-hug humanitarianism ~ can't debate the facts before you gotta step in and announce "let the healing begin." Oh... let's not forget you get your digs in, insult me, and try to couch it in a fakey-ass heartwarming aura of wholesome goodness. I love the subtle insinuation that somehow I've already stated the facts of my case (which I hadn't). Perhaps your debating tact seems smart to you, but I can see you've been mercifully spared the ravages of intelligence. You're an idiot.

I know your type.. you can be found in Starbucks buying $5 cups of coffee (double-tall cafe latte decaf with soymilk), you hang out with alienated nihilists and existentialists (wannabes that run in packs), you have pseudo-intellectual discussions where everyone is categorized as "obtuse" or "bourgeoisie" or "blind polemics".

I have a picture of you in my mind... ponytail, wire-rim glasses, turtleneck, black beret and goatee, probably playing the bongos.

XG


No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.



Stereotype much? If we were to follow the same thought process I'd have to say you're either a suit wearing tightwad conservative or maybe the other direction and the angry neogoth that calls their poor social potty training "angst" or "moral outrage". Maybe you're just spoiling for the stimulation of an argument?

"These are cold blooded killers, they ain't cuddly like me."

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Tuesday, February 28, 2006 12:50 PM

BISHOP76


Well, it is my understanding that because there was no Res Ship, Scar wouldn't have been able to download to anywhere. I'm sure they could bring another Res ship in given enough time, but not in enough time to save Scar.

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Tuesday, February 28, 2006 1:25 PM

FIRESTALKER


I've watched the show a couple of times and I love it, but... I can't get past the "Fracking" instead of "F***ing" language. Farscape had Frell and Firefly has Gorramn. They fit well, but "Frack" makes my cringe when I hear it.

What the last episode? The one whne Boomer is reborn and the resistance blows up the cafe? Anyway... Boomer yells something like "Why?! Because I'm a Fracking Cyclon!!" It made me cringe and ruined the whole scene for me.

Just my opinion.

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Tuesday, February 28, 2006 1:53 PM

RIVER6213


Quote:

Originally posted by Firestalker:
I've watched the show a couple of times and I love it, but... I can't get past the "Fracking" instead of "F***ing" language. Farscape had Frell and Firefly has Gorramn. They fit well, but "Frack" makes my cringe when I hear it.

What the last episode? The one whne Boomer is reborn and the resistance blows up the cafe? Anyway... Boomer yells something like "Why?! Because I'm a Fracking Cyclon!!" It made me cringe and ruined the whole scene for me.

Just my opinion.

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"You know what the definition of a hero is? Someone that gets other people killed."



Well, just be glad that the writers didnt choose the original BSG swear word and insult....what was it, oh, yes, it was Phelgercarb, or something like that. I'm so GLAD that the new BSG didnt decide to use this!

River



Where is the salt?

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Wednesday, March 1, 2006 3:57 PM

XEROGRAVITY


Ok. Over time. I'm gonna respond to all of this. This is just alot to respond to.

I thought I was having a private pissing war with Frau KNIBBLET and her heathen horde of band-wagon minions.

Apparently not.

River90210:

"Frack" was the major curseword from the original BSG.

Don't ever forget that. This ain't some invention of the almighty Moore-whore. He lifted it from the original show.

XG



Totally overwhelmed with information overload. And oh ya...

No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.

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Wednesday, March 1, 2006 5:18 PM

RIVER6213


Quote:

Originally posted by XeroGravity:
Ok. Over time. I'm gonna respond to all of this. This is just alot to respond to.

I thought I was having a private pissing war with Frau KNIBBLET and her heathen horde of band-wagon minions.

Apparently not.

River90210:

"Frack" was the major curseword from the original BSG.

Don't ever forget that. This ain't some invention of the almighty Moore-whore. He lifted it from the original show.

XG



Totally overwhelmed with information overload. And oh ya...

No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.




*River90210? LoL!*

Oh god! Here we go!
Yes Xerogravity, I know Frak was a swear word that they used in the original BSG, but Phelgercarb was a running 2nd. I recently watched the whole season of the original BSG just for old times sake, and Phelgercarb was used a lot! I'm SO glad they decided not to use it in the new series because is sounds SO stupid. Frak is passable, Phelgercarb is just plain icky. And yes, I know the writers of the new BSG lifted "frak" from the old series.

Also, in the original series, Pyramid was a card game not a ball/court game in case you didnt notice. You should show up in the Sci-Fi Forum and try your arguments out in the BSG room...it would be fun to watch those die-hard BSG fans smack you around....I'll bring the popcorn.

By the way, comparing the old BSG with the new BSG is just like comparing the 1960s series Batman with the latest movie Batman Begins. You can't compare them, and if you do indeed like the old BSG better than the new one, which you stated that you didnt, well, I really don't know what to say to you regarding that, but I can say this...you are missing out, you really are.


Xerogravity, I'm a strange one, but you are even stranger...whats your story? I don't expect an answer to that since you are so uptight, but I thought I would give it a try. I know you have to maintain your image as The Savior of Rome.

River



She fell, and fell, and fell...

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Thursday, March 2, 2006 2:35 AM

KNIBBLET


It does boggle the mind doesn't it?
Xero doesn't like the original.
Xero doesn't like the new series.
Why are we having the conversation?

I don't like liver.
I don't like head cheese.
I have NEVER had a argument about how liver could be better if only nature hadn't interfered and made it ucky. And I've never followed up with how head cheese is just a sad version of ucky liver.

I'm thinking Xero needs a hobby. A hobby outside of wasting bandwidth comparing two things he doesn't like that is.


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Thursday, March 2, 2006 5:08 AM

RIVER6213


Quote:

Originally posted by Knibblet:
It does boggle the mind doesn't it?
Xero doesn't like the original.
Xero doesn't like the new series.
Why are we having the conversation?

I don't like liver.
I don't like head cheese.
I have NEVER had a argument about how liver could be better if only nature hadn't interfered and made it ucky. And I've never followed up with how head cheese is just a sad version of ucky liver.

I'm thinking Xero needs a hobby. A hobby outside of wasting bandwidth comparing two things he doesn't like that is.




Yes, it is weird! If he doesnt like the old and new BSGs, why even bother kicking up a fuss in this thread? The answer to that is because it gets our goats. We rush in to defend our show because we love it so much and find it interesting. I BET Xerogravity secretly watches the new BSG and actually likes it himself...he just won't admit it I bet, he's just way into the Devil's Advocate thingy.

The new BSG is a shiny show, and I havent missed an episode. I have every episode of BSG, Serenity, and Firefly on my ipod video. The new BSG is quality programming; good entertainment, and there is no force in the 'verse that could ever make me dislike the show.
So there!

River



Kickin in the Burn!

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Thursday, March 2, 2006 6:09 AM

FIRESTALKER


I love the show also [I haven't watched enough of it to say I'm devoted to it yet], don;t get me wrong. I just thought that Frack sounded rather wierd in the show. I can get by it, if thewy didn't use it so freaking much!

I'm watching the season finale on friday and I'll decide if it deserves my devotion then.

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Friday, March 3, 2006 10:38 AM

XEROGRAVITY


Storymark:

Dirk Benedict's picture on my pillowcase?

Nah Storymark. Not quite. But I would gladly tack up a poster of him in my garage on my hero-worship wall of manly-men. In the old BSG, he's a fly-boy jock, fearless warrior, and adventuring rogue who kicks in doors with his laser pistol in hand. He's ready to go down fighting. Fuck ya! I'd tack that SOB's picture up on my wall of idols. If he fell in battle, I'd commemorate his ass with viking-like warrior songs around the council fire. His name would live in legend. Why? Because he's a man and a warrior. I'd tack his picture up where it could be honored.

But never on my pillowcase... the only pics I'd tack on my pillow have breasts, no penis, and are 100 percent women. I don't swing that way. I wouldn't be suprised if you are they type who tacks a pic of "Gaius Baltar" on your pillow though. You secretly gay dude? Sounds like it.




Bishop76: You agree with me (or so you say) yet you think the "new" Vipers are great looking (then you counter my POVs).

The "new" Vipers are the ONLY thing in the show they didn't "re-imagine". Outside of the a lil more dirt-&-grime and wear-&-tear (good ole CGI graphics), and a handfull of decals and minor details... the new vipers are identical to the old. If they had done the same with cylon ships and bots I'd bite my upper-lip and endure the hideous acting, the bad storyline, etc.

Other's have said what you are now saying (a quote from Storymark more-or-less... "the original intention of science fiction is to use fantastical, fictional settings and circumstances to reflect and/or comment on current political and social issues.").

I haven't tackled this issue yet, but I will now. I take issue with all of you on this notion that (as you put it Bishop76) "the point of science fiction is to make you think about modern day issues while masking it in a fantastical world."

That's absurd you buncha fools. That's insanely stupid and false. Sci-fi is not about proving how this or that point of view in modern-day politics will be demonstrated correct in the future. It's about pure fuckin fantasy WITHOUT the hindering effects of politics. It's about HOW science will reshape the future. Not how it'll prove some ideological load of modern-day horseshit correct. These partisan whores who would argue otherwise are "die-for-the-cause" hacks who never loved scifi to begin with (like Spielberg and his remake of H.G. Wells "War of the Worlds".. he should stick to archaeologist with a whip and pistol fighting nazi-flicks, but then his creativity was been tapped out long ago and he's nothing but big-budget politics anyhow).

The political whores who dicatate what's allowable scifi want their cause shoved down scifi fan's throats because they think it'll get their candidates more votes. Left and Right. More left than right (since "blacklisting" of the right is alive and well ~ the pendulum swings, and is about to swing in the opposite direction, once again -- eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, an endless cycle of revenge, etc.). I just love seeing politics argues in the arena of science and science fiction. Can't get enough, please gimme more.

It's all just a tool for a bunch of phoney-ass political whores to promote their "important" issue of the hour. Fuck them! I hate the whole damned lot of them. I wish they'd keep their politics out of my fuckin scifi but that just ain't ever gonna happen. But hey... Bishop76 and crew, believe what you want. As LEEH says (who blasphemes and says the new-BSG is better than FF), the new show is "socially-conscious" according to her. Ya ya sure sure.

Fuckit. If that's the case then I'm gladly, happily, and proudly "ANTI-socially-conscious". I'd prefer Mal kicking Viking-dude into the engines 8 out of 7 days a week (OMG the violence must stop. lets hold hands and say a prayer for world peace) versus the girly menfolk of new BSG. Mal the man-warrior, I would die for... the "warriors" of new-BSG I would die laughing at.

Combo of bad actors and bad scriptwriting. But hey... fanbois&gals are gonna shout down and attack anyone who disagrees with them. Majority opinion rules (regardless of how that opinion was formed). But then Larson is "Glen Larceny" according to you. I can see you're infected with partisan propaganda.


Knibblet:

I have so much shit to argue with you about yet too little time to articulate a decent argument.

I'll tackle the logical main thrust of your most recent hare-brained assault...

Yes. I hate the "old" BSG. AND, I even more intensely hate the new one.

BUT (and this is the point lost on you)...

I loved the "old" BSG when I was a kid. It was great!

So was "The Flintstones" and "Scooby-Doo" cartoons. But if you make me sit down and watch them now, guess what... I will hate them. I watched a marathon of the old BSG on SciFi chan a couple years back and spent the whole time wondering "WTF did I love about this when I was a kid? It's so ridiculously fakey".

But hey... that was 25-some years ago. Now that I don't enjoy it as I did when I was a kid invariably invalidates my opinion of the "new" cheese-dick version of BSG. I currently hate "The Flintstones" if I'm forced to watch it nowadays. Should I be chastised for that as well? How strange perspective changes from childhood to adulthood.

You're so deeply insightful and super-cunning in your debating abilities. I'm just ready to hoist up the white flag and surrender.

XG


ps - and yes I know I haven't addressed everyone and everything, BUT, I will. This is a lot to respond to. I'm pressed for time ATM.


No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" is cylon-occupied by weightless robotic arguments.

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Friday, March 3, 2006 5:33 PM

XEROGRAVITY


Ah. I've been doing some searching on the net. Apparently I'm not the only person who thinks the new BSG sucks... Cute lil rant I found:

(will reprint it here w/link)



Plotlines of new Battlestar Galactica episodes (spoilers)

At least 6 episodes of the "new" Battlestar Galactica are being produced for the scifi channel. Our spies tell us about the following plotlines:

1) The Cylons launch a surprise attack, disrupting Starbuck and Boomer's lesbian wedding.

2) A Cylon operative slips a secret ingredient in Commander Adama's chilupa which makes him both indecisive and impotent.

3) President Roslin goes through menopause, getting hot flashes that set off warning indicators on the Galactica.

4) A new Cylon model is revealed, in the form of Robin Williams. He comes aboard the Galactica offering a peace treaty, but is secretly paving the way for an attack by demoralizing the crew with his unfunny humor.

5) Athena, played by Jennifer Lopez, makes an appearance. She wants to wear sports bras and short shorts on the bridge against the Commander's express orders, causing a crisis.

6) A cylcon suicide bomber crashes into the landing bay and starts a huge fire, cutting power and disrupting Starbuck's sex change operation, raising doubts as to whether her new male genitalia will work properly.



original link... (citing my source)
http://www.allscifi.com/board.asp?BoardID=22591

The defending responses are so reminiscent of the the type of slanderous crap I've had to defend against since I voiced my hatred of the new-BSG.

XG


No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.

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Friday, March 3, 2006 6:19 PM

RIVER6213


Xerogravity got that so-called "source" out of ONE forum on Sci-Fi's, BattleStar Galactica board that's for people who STILL think that the old BSG is STILL the best. Those people are complete retards and are the total minority of the BSG board.

Xerogravity must type with his chin.

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Saturday, March 4, 2006 6:46 AM

CYBERSNARK


I try not to get involved in flamewars. I really do. . .

Quote:

Originally posted by XeroGravity:
I take issue with all of you on this notion that (as you put it Bishop76) "the point of science fiction is to make you think about modern day issues while masking it in a fantastical world."

That's absurd you buncha fools. That's insanely stupid and false. Sci-fi is not about proving how this or that point of view in modern-day politics will be demonstrated correct in the future.

I don't think that's what the "thinking about modern issues" implies. "Social commentary" is not necessarily "propaganda."

Sci-fi is about arguing how this or that point of view in modern-day politics can be demonstrated wrong in whatever circumstances (the future, an alternate timeline, an "alien" situation, or even in the present).

Ultimately, Sci-fi is something that should help people think, for better or worse. Much like The Daily show, it's not about expressing approval of any one stance, but about pointing out weaknesses all around, urging people to consider their stances rather than just accepting them.

Frankly, I don't see any "proving" going on in new Galactica. The Cylons do or don't have souls, God is or isn't helping the Cylons, security is or isn't more important than freedom, religion is or isn't more about hope than truth. . . Lot of questions being raised, lot of people dealing with them in their own unique ways that may or may not work for them as individuals.


Quote:

Fuckit. If that's the case then I'm gladly, happily, and proudly "ANTI-socially-conscious". I'd prefer Mal kicking Viking-dude into the engines 8 out of 7 days a week (OMG the violence must stop. lets hold hands and say a prayer for world peace) versus the girly menfolk of new BSG. Mal the man-warrior, I would die for... the "warriors" of new-BSG I would die laughing at.
You mean Mal, who exists on the edge of a society (which contains both good and bad extremes), and who is doing so because of his political stance against centralized bureaucracy and in favour of individual freedoms (and yet who must enforce his own leadership philosophy --that of a meritocracy-based voluntary-dictatorship-- over his crew, despite their own varying outlooks and philosophies)? Mal who believed sufficiently in this political truth that he was willing to fight for it, and who frequently expresses ethical (Inara's chosen vocation, Niska/Badger/Fanty&Mingo's mobocratic communities, Kaylee's pacifism) and political opinions (Simon's port of origin, Jayne's followers on Canton, the Alliance's crimes against humanity) both of and to his crew? That Mal?

Yeah, Firefly doesn't have any political commentary at all.

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Saturday, March 4, 2006 8:44 AM

T3L


I liked Battlestar am still watching the second series.
Just watched all the Firefly series this week and then watched Serenity last night. Have to say I was quite saddened by the fact that I had watched them all and there would be no more :(

So i thought i would seek out others who loved the show. Hello all

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Saturday, March 4, 2006 10:34 AM

CYBERSNARK


Then let me be the first to welcome you. Flag down FollowMal (or Kaele, or just break into the storage room on your own) to get your browncoat, grab a seat and whatever chow drifts into view. We're all family here, don't let the bickering put you off.

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Saturday, March 4, 2006 6:16 PM

UNREGISTEREDCOMPANION


Hey IRONSPY,

I am thinking along the same lines as you. The new Baltar is NOT a stereotypical "mustache twirler", he is a deep, complex individual where the old Baltar was rather 1 dimensional. Hell, there are even times when you LIKE the guy, and then he goes and does something wrong for the right reasons, or something right for the wrong reasons.

I think the actor who plays him is a FRACKING GENIUS!

~~~~~
"Funny and sexy. You have no idea. And you never will."

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Sunday, March 5, 2006 4:01 PM

XEROGRAVITY


Cybersnark:

That is absolutely the most concise and clear-cut analysis of Mal I've ever read. And no, I'm not being cynical or sarcastic. You hit the nail on the head. My compliments to you.

All his foibles aside, I find Mal heroic. I haven't seen a main character on any show in ages who has that kind of brass. Doubtful I will again. To me, it's no wonder the show got deep-sixed.

T3L:

Welcome to the fray. Everyone here has been through that hopeless feeling of emptiness that comes when you realise you've just watched the last episode of FF.

Might I suggest a bottle of vodka? Works for me.

UNREGISTEREDCOMPANION:

The "new" Baltar is a superb actor. No doubt about it. I just hate the way his character is written. I also can't get past the fact that he looks like A. Siddiq (the guy who played Doctor Julian Bashir on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine). The resemblance is uncanny. And both were written to be equally meek.


XG


No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.

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Sunday, March 5, 2006 4:17 PM

CHRISISALL


XG, you're certainly pretty feisty on this particular thread, no?

Let me put it all in perspective.

Battlestar Galactica is all about the Vipers.
Awsome in the original series, awsome in the new one. Everything else is just the felgercarb in between shots of the most perfect one-man space fighter ever designed.

Don't bother to fight me on this; it is unqualified, indisputable fact.



Well, IMHO Chrisisall

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Sunday, March 5, 2006 8:22 PM

XEROGRAVITY


I'm not gonna dispute you dude.

Yes. BSG is all about the vipers. You've uncovered the 1-dimensional and transparent nature of my posting.

Take a bow.

You've put it in perspective. Someone please assfuck me till my head explodes. I did'nt realise I was so shallow.

Thank god (if such a thing exists) that Chrisisall put it into perspective for me.

Holy fuck I've been so blind.

XG


Godless and friendless viking

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Monday, March 6, 2006 4:05 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by XeroGravity:

Holy f**k I've been so blind.

XG



Um...you want to be alone right now, don't you?

Time out for you, young man.
No Vipers for you today!

There is no gravity, your posts suck Chrisisall

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Monday, March 6, 2006 4:26 AM

KNIBBLET


We truly need to learn to stop feeding the trolls.

The proper response is to turn your back on the troll. Ignore the pathetic whinging and complaining. Pay no mind to the expletives and explosions. Overcome the urge to pet the slimy creature.

Just let it be. Ignore it. Soon, lack of food will force the troll to find another bridge (or board) to torture.

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/MN-Firefly/ Big Damn Shindigity Good Time
http://www.fireflytalk.com - Big Damn Podcast


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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 3:00 AM

XEROGRAVITY


I feel like I'm at a very 3rd rate tent revival of new-BSG fanboiz/galz.

You all find someone who disagrees with your conventional (and predictable views)... you don't debate... you just attack.

And you attack, and you attack, and you attack.

Lemme summarize...

(1)

I'm "repetitive" (as storymark would put it) (I'd love to hear him give a singular concrete example of me repeating myself, but hey... why bother?)

I'd like to think the only thing repetitive in my line of thinking is my hatred of the new show.

But nah... I'm just a broken record who repeats the fuck out of myself. Anyone, and I mean ANYONE, care to show me a single example of repetition in my posts? ...ya once or twice I reiterated what I'd already said IN RESPONSE to a direct question in this same thread (for idiots who didn't get it the first time)...

but please show me where I'm repeating myself. You can't (cuz I don't).

(2)

I call people names. Odd... the only people I call names are the public figures who make this crappy show.

Yet, fanboiz/galz call me names, and when I call them names back, they say "Oh hey wait hey now stop that c'mon no need for namecalling..." ~ even though they struck first. Of course, they deny it (even though it is simply disproven by going back and re-reading this same fuckin thread).

But hey.... people believe what they want to believe... they rise up and defend idiots like this because they haven't read this entire thread.

They just wanna chime in with their opinion... fuck the facts, it's all about being a mindless fanboi/gal of the show.

(3)

Chrisisall:

I've seen every retarded form of low-brow debating tactic in this thread 2X at least. You're the first to isolate a singular insignificant fact and pretend it's the whole thrust of my argument. Your stupidity is unique in this thread in that respect (although not unique among feebleminded debaters).

Go watch "Planet of the Apes" ~ the original. Pay close attention to the courtroom scene where Heston is proven guilty in the ape court of law.

It's relevant to that tiny little brain of yours. You could learn something.

Knibblet:

You're managing to win this argument on pathos alone.

You know what "pathos" means don't you?

Go look it up in a dictionary. Oh... please don't feed the trolls. Starve them out.

Just don't dare debate them. And PS ~ I could SO annihilate you on the facts if I didn't have to deal with all your bootlicking whore assassins.

new-BSG sucks (unless your brain is the size of a pebble).


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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 3:12 AM

THUNDER


It's a good show. Serenity is in the back ground in the mini series & in the extras they say almost the same thing as Joss about the way it was filmed.

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 3:29 AM

THUNDER


I remember the original series the 2nd is a lot better

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 5:14 AM

MSCKAREN


The new BSG is very good and worth your time. The second season has had a few stumbles but I'm sticking with it and hoping these were just experiments that didn't go well. (I like a show that takes chances even if they don't always pan out.)

The missing element compared to FF is the funny, although I've noticed a (very) few moments in the last few episodes.

Overall, this is the best SF on TV right now.

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 5:34 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by XeroGravity:


I've seen every retarded form of low-brow debating tactic in this thread 2X at least. You're the first to isolate a singular insignificant fact and pretend it's the whole thrust of my argument. Your stupidity is unique in this thread in that respect

I didn't say it was the thrust of your argument; in point of fact the thrust of your argument is the argument itself. You want a war (are you Cheney?).
And you overlook the most important aspect of the shows, the glorious Viper.
You're not a fan of the original series, or you'd know this. You probably don't even have a plastic modle kit of the Viper (w/home made cockpit-not included) like I do, do you?
{ad hominim} You are a pathetic, Viper-less loser.{/ad hominim}

P.S.:
"you attack, and you attack, and you attack.
I'm "repetitive"
me repeating myself,
the only thing repetitive
I'm just a broken record who repeats
repetition in my posts?
I reiterated
show me where I'm repeating myself.
2X at least."

You're funny.
Do you mean to be?






Chrisisall, feedin' the Trolls

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 6:48 AM

UNREGISTEREDCOMPANION


The main reason the new BSG is better than the old BSG...no Muffy the Daggit and no Boxy!




P.S. This thread is example 2 of why we need an IGNORE MEMBER option.



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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 6:51 AM

GIXXER


Truly, Spacehoppah, it is written that an inner calm awaits the seeker of de-caffeinated drinks....

Ommmmmmmmmmmmmm.

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 6:52 AM

GELASSENHEIT


BSG is one KICK-ASS SHOW.

Too bad sci fi channel couldn't show it together with a new season of Firefly. That would be HEAVEN.

The new BSG is better than the old BSG for one reason in particular to satisfy my feminist roots: Women play much bigger and more in depth roles, and there are more of them.

The 70s show maybe had THREE (count the fingers on one hand) memorable female characters that did not get killed off: Cassiopea, the reformed hooker with a heart of gold, a character named Athena who I am not quite sure what she did, and Sheba, the ONE token female viper pilot. And that was it.

Not much for a growing scifi fan girl to emulate.

Gelassenheit means Serenity

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 7:04 AM

RIVER6213


Oh, Boxy is on the show. He was there in a couple of scenes in the miniseries, and also in one scene during Season 1. He's a depressed, bitter, and surly kid who lost both his parents in the Cylon attack on Caprica.

River


Xerogravity's a big wimp!

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 8:26 AM

SICKDUDE


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Battlestar Galactica is all about the Vipers.



Cisall, if it's a tussle you're looking for.... This thread seems to be the best place for one. Here, let me just clear out a little space, and let the pugilism begin!

I would've agreed with you on the original. But one of the numerous strongpoints to the new show is that I am developing quite the admiration for 'the bucket'. Never liked the original, but this new one is something. IMHO, the vipers can't hold a candle to the Battlestar itself. (Then again, candles wouldn't last long in space... )

And I love the way they call them the bucket and the beast!!

So, Cisall, if you got some viper adorin' to do, bring it!

"It's a cow."

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 11:06 AM

TERRIFRIED


hey guys, i finally got the BSG mini-series(me being the one who originally asked whether i should check out the series or not). checked it out, and i liked it a lot. i definitely agree that BSG and firefly can't really be compared because other than the fact that they're space operas, they're two COMPLETLEY different shows.

anyway i've been reading through the arguments between the old series die-hard fans and the new ones; i like the new one just fine and don't plan to check out the original series unless something really sparks my interest to. i don't think of it as a remake, it's a new series with the same original idea of humans vs. cylons and name. like one person said, it's the same difference between batman begins and adam west's batman.

so..next question! farscape? what do you think.

"I don't think of myself as a lion..."

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 11:24 AM

CYBERSNARK


Quote:

Originally posted by RiveR6213:
Oh, Boxy is on the show. He was there in a couple of scenes in the miniseries, and also in one scene during Season 1. He's a depressed, bitter, and surly kid who lost both his parents in the Cylon attack on Caprica.

He also does "What are you, stupid?" looks almost as good as River.

Naturally, they create a Boxy who's actually entertaining, then they leave him out of the show.

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Tuesday, March 7, 2006 5:54 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Sickdude:

So, Cisall, if you got some viper adorin' to do, bring it!


Sickdude, you're no better than Xerogravity in your lack of Viper-appreciation.(Except that you're better mannered, and make more sense in your arguments, and don't act like a troll, and spell words better, and...)

Glory be to the Viper, and to the Holy Turbo-launch. Now and forever, it makes heaven out of space.
Lo, you infantile boobs that appreciate not it's power and design. You will be blasted from the stars like so many impotent Firefly-class garbage scows.
As it is written, so shall it be vaporized.



Bring it, you clumbsy Battlestar worshipers Chrisisall

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 3:16 AM

KNIBBLET


I did enjoy the whole 'the bucket and the beast' scene.

Of course, I'd call Pegasus, "the place where security does not exist and flag officers die under mysterious circumstances".

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 6:53 AM

CYBERSNARK


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Glory be to the Viper, and to the Holy Turbo-launch. Now and forever, it makes heaven out of space.
Lo, you infantile boobs that appreciate not it's power and design. You will be blasted from the stars like so many impotent Firefly-class garbage scows.
As it is written, so shall it be vaporized.

Can I get a "So say we all?"

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 7:16 AM

SINGATE


Chrisisall,

I usually agree with you but here I must take exception:


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
...impotent Firefly-class garbage scows.

Bring it, you clumbsy Battlestar worshipers Chrisisal



In my best Stewie Griffin voice: "Garbage scow?! How dare you! I should find something to strike you with!"

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 7:59 AM

SICKDUDE


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Sickdude, you're no better than Xerogravity in your lack of Viper-appreciation.(Except that you're better mannered, and make more sense in your arguments, and don't act like a troll, and spell words better, and...)


Oh, I may not look like one, but I still smell like a troll, believe you me...

It kind of comes down to the classic "Which came first: the viper or the battlestar" riddle. Without the battlestar, the vipers would have no base of operations. But without the vipers, the battlestar would have no range of operations. Hmmmm, tough one....

On closer examination, we see that I am in fact right. No doubt at all. Yep!

Quote:

You will be blasted from the stars like so many impotent Firefly-class garbage scows.

Cisall, I think you're on to something here! Maybe the Firefly class are for garbage haulin'. That explains the duel main doors on the "cargo" deck, with the outer pair having those big hydraulic rams. It explains the cargo being on the bottom of the ship, just perfect for skimming junk off of a landfill. The catwalks over the "cargo" deck, because you wouldn't want to walk through that stuff. Come to think of it, I've always been interested in garbage trucks since I was a little tike! It all makes sense now.

"It's a cow."

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 8:02 AM

SICKDUDE


Quote:

Originally posted by Knibblet:
"the place where security does not exist and flag officers die under mysterious circumstances".


(a la Homer) Yeah, funny flag officers....

"It's a cow."

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 8:05 AM

ALGUS


I see the workings of an excellent episode here

Kaylee: Don't you think you should rephrase that?
Cisall: You're right, I should, I didn't mean to say Serenity should be hauling garbage, I meant to say it should be hauled away as garbage!
Cisall: *evil laugh*

*cue barfight scene as Kaylee punches Cisall out*

Brilliant, we could throw in these furry little balls of...fur, and something about aliens trying to take over some planet named after Sherman by poisoning wheat!

Man, how do I come up with this stuff?

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 8:35 AM

TIVO25


Quote:

Originally posted by Algus:
I see the workings of an excellent episode here

Kaylee: Don't you think you should rephrase that?
Cisall: You're right, I should, I didn't mean to say Serenity should be hauling garbage, I meant to say it should be hauled away as garbage!
Cisall: *evil laugh*

*cue barfight scene as Kaylee punches Cisall out*

Brilliant, we could throw in these furry little balls of...fur, and something about aliens trying to take over some planet named after Sherman by poisoning wheat!

Man, how do I come up with this stuff?

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Where's the KABOOM?! There was supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom! *sigh* Delays...delays...



ROTFL!

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 8:50 AM

HAZE


I quite like the New Battlestar Galactica.

It came as a massive shock the first time I heard Irish music playing on the show. You wouldn’t think they would mesh. But some how it works.


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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 10:38 AM

JONESTEIN


I try to avoid comparing Firefly to other SciFi...it's so unique.

But the new BSG rocks! It's the best show on the tube right now. And don't EVEN try to compare it to the old campy, 70's BSG. The new one has frakkin redefined and reimagined what BSG should be.

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 5:21 PM

CHRISISALL


Mal (to Kaylee):
You mean to say, you punched Cisall because he called Serenity a garbage scow, and not because he called me a bobbly-head doll wrangler?

Kaylee:
I mean to say.

Mal(out take-like):
TRAP!!!!


Chrisisall

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Wednesday, March 8, 2006 5:23 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Cybersnark:
Can I get a "So say we all?"


Ahh, finally. One who is at one with the Viper!
*Bows*

Apollo Chrisisall

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Thursday, March 9, 2006 3:56 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Sickdude:


Maybe the Firefly class are for garbage haulin'. That explains the duel main doors on the "cargo" deck, with the outer pair having those big hydraulic rams. It explains the cargo being on the bottom of the ship, just perfect for skimming junk off of a landfill. The catwalks over the "cargo" deck, because you wouldn't want to walk through that stuff.

I think we're close to getting kicked off this site here...


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