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new converts

POSTED BY: FRANKIE
UPDATED: Saturday, January 28, 2006 09:27
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Friday, January 27, 2006 8:58 PM

So... I've been converting heathens, and I'm growing conserned with the results.

All those I've shown Firefly to, have taken to it. They laugh at the right moments, gasp at the right moments and cry at the right moments. The most common phrase I've been hearing lately is "Put the next disc in!"

Sounds great, right?

So what's the problem?

None of them seem to have that... browncoat spirit. Excepting my family, none of them seem to care enough to join the battle. I don't for a second believe any of five friends I've converted will buy the DVDs. They either don't have the money or don't care enough, or both (probably both).

I don't know what to do. Am I going about it wrong? Are my friends just losers? Or do they just need time to come around to our side?

I'm feeling a little downhearted, and need some advice from any older, wiser browncoats.

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this is the captain. we have a little problem with our entry sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence and then... explode.

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Friday, January 27, 2006 10:13 PM

MATTIE

I'm not older, nor am I wiser. I've actually having a similar problem. What is it with some people? The way I see it, if I'm gonna share something that I love SO much with my firends, I expect some degree of osmosis from them. My sprirt and passion is supposed to rub off on them. It doesn't seem to work, though. Am I over zealous?

Wacky fun!

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Friday, January 27, 2006 10:18 PM

METALINGUS

I may be biased but I don't think you are overzealous. It's hard getting new people to enjoy the show. I mean they love it but they don't want to go the extra distance. All I do is make it casual and let them see what they are missing.

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Saturday, January 28, 2006 4:32 AM

RAVENHAIR

With the series over and the movie finished (for now), I wonder if it's just that newbies don't feel the urgency and hope that those who discovered it earlier had when the episodes were still on Fox or the movie was in production. We had something tangible to look forward to and the anticipation was energizing.

I didn't watch the original showing on Fox, but rented it from Netflix and the disappointment that it was over when I got to the last disk was devastating, but then I heard the movie was coming out and it just fueled my need to own it all!

It may be the new newbies just don't want to get excited over something they see as over.

Just my 2 cents.

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Saturday, January 28, 2006 4:47 AM

GRIMJACK21502

My philosophy is, "If you introduce ten people to Firefly and two of them buy the series and the BDM, your mission is accomplished.

Not everyone will become zealots, but if they enjoy it, then they are people we can utilize in the future.

For instance, a few brilliant people on this forum have suggested enlisting people to simply turn on, tape, or Tivo the Firefly marathon on Sci Fi in March. You aren't asking your "converts" to go the extra mile and spend money, but you will be expsoing them to more Firefly, while at the same time boosting ratings on a potential successor network.

A good plan for both "lukewarm" Browncoats and *cough*financially challenged*cough* Browncoats.

We will hold...we hold till Mal gets back.

"And once you're gone, you can never come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black"
-Neil Young

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Saturday, January 28, 2006 5:00 AM

MCALLEN

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For instance, a few brilliant people on this forum have suggested enlisting people to simply turn on, tape, or Tivo the Firefly marathon on Sci Fi in March. You aren't asking your "converts" to go the extra mile and spend money, but you will be expsoing them to more Firefly, while at the same time boosting ratings on a potential successor network.

This brings up a question I had the other day. I thought the same--regardless of where I am or what I'm doing, I must have a tv turned onto the SciFi channel during the Firefly marathon in March, and I must get others to do the same, to boost ratings. Then someone told me that unless you have a Nielsen box, it doesn't matter.

I admit I'm completely ignorant when it comes to how the ratings game is played, but does anyone know what effect (if any) it will really have if all of us non-Nielsens tune in to the marathon??

MAL: We're still flying.
SIMON: That's not much.
MAL: It's enough.

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Saturday, January 28, 2006 5:36 AM

NYWOE

Don't be discouraged-- You're doing just fine! Not every person is going to be *ahem* crazy about the show like us. But almost every person LIKES and most LOVE the show... That's plenty. I think our only goal as Browncoats should be to introduce Firefly to the whole world, so everyone can enjoy this wondeful gem.

As regards sequels, etc, we'll leave all that to the PTB. We're doing our job, and as long as we keep showing our DVDs and sharing our love and Browncoat spirit, then Firefly will never really die...

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If you're an Arizonan and a Browncoat, come join us:

www.azbrowncoats.com
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/AZ_Browncoats/

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Saturday, January 28, 2006 5:55 AM

NOVASTARCLOUD

At the risk of being perceived a zealot, I went to Oprah.com and went to the section where you suggest a show and wrote that I'd like to see Joss Whedon on her show. You only have about 2,000 characters to write, so I had to cram. Anyway, Oprah has always been supportive of the
"under dog" and I thought Joss and his Browncoats were a perfect show for her.

But I was just one voice, if everybody here went to Oprah.com and wrote....? What do you think?

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Saturday, January 28, 2006 6:47 AM

FRANKIE

What's a Nielsens box?

I thought of the Oprah thing... but never did it. Actually... I'm a little scared of Oprah at the minute. lol. But it does seem like the kind of thing she'd support if she knew about it... maybe someone should send her a copy of Firefly.

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Saturday, January 28, 2006 7:16 AM

RIVER6213

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Originally posted by NovaStarCloud:
At the risk of being perceived a zealot, I went to Oprah.com and went to the section where you suggest a show and wrote that I'd like to see Joss Whedon on her show. You only have about 2,000 characters to write, so I had to cram. Anyway, Oprah has always been supportive of the
"under dog" and I thought Joss and his Browncoats were a perfect show for her.

But I was just one voice, if everybody here went to Oprah.com and wrote....? What do you think?

Its a good, and noble idea, but I don't think Oprah will go for it, but you are given an "A" for effort.

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Saturday, January 28, 2006 7:17 AM

RIVER6213

Double post!
I must be hitting the post button too fast
sorry

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Saturday, January 28, 2006 8:32 AM

SCARLETBEGONIA

Re: Nielson boxes

These are used to measure ratings for TV shows in the US. Only a small percentage of the population has them and they are managed by a private marketing firm (Nielson) that gives the gathered info over to the networks. I have no idea how one goes about becoming a "Nielson family", and have never met one (although they are a bit like the CIA in their secrecy). So basically a (relative) handful of the population is deciding what all of us get to watch....I've actually been quite bitter about this for a long time since almost all of my favorite shows inevitably get cancelled

Frankie, I can totally relate about the lack of zealousness among new converts...I've shown quite a few people (at least 20) the series and/or movie and, while all of them have truly enjoyed or loved it, only one has actually gotten the series on dvd. I did give out a few movie dvd's for Christmas, which were all greatly appreciated. But yeah, no one has become obsessed like myself.

Must be I have an obsessive personality

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Saturday, January 28, 2006 9:27 AM

NUCLEARDAY

Per the Nielson's and stuff...

I never had a box, but as it happens I was contacted by them a few years back, right around the time Firefly was airing. What they did with me was sent me a couple booklets where I'd manually fill out what I was watching and when, etc... Then I'd send it in to them. Came postage-paid and all that, and I think they sent me like $10 cash or something for motivation.

Looking back, I wish I'd done more, but I'd only caught maybe three episodes at the time. (I work nights, so it always aired when I was at work, and didn't always remember to set the VCR.) For my part, there was a section at the end of each book for the week, where you could write whatever, and they'd ask you about what shows you'd missed but planned to watch. I remember mentioning Firefly, and wishing it had been given a time schedule that was easier for me to catch. Looking back, I wish I'd written more for that, but I didn't REALLY get the bug until the DVD came out and I was able to see the rest of the episodes...

With TiVo and such, it almost seems like they'd have some way to keep track of the shows you record. I don't have one yet, so I wouldn't know though. Sounds like if they did have a way to track your viewing, though, that they'd say so somewhere...

And back to the original post, I've have the same problem with some converts. They might be fans, but I've found very few browncoats in the people I've exposed to the 'verse. Every little bit helps though, we'll always be the underdogs. But even enlisting one to the cause can help tip the balance. (And don't forget that if that one person helps to recruit just one more, and so on...)

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