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HEART OF GOLD SCRIPT ONLINE NOW!

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Thursday, February 27, 2003 3:36 PM

HAPLO721


http://forums.prospero.com/foxfirefly/messages?msg=6627.1

Early: You ever been raped, Kaylee?
Kaylee: You know, it's funny you should mention that... ever heard of the Fox network?

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Thursday, February 27, 2003 3:48 PM

CYRIDEL


I'm gonna go curl up in the fetal position in a corner and cry for awhile. Why Fox? For the love of God why? How could you cancel this show?

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Thursday, February 27, 2003 4:10 PM

BRTICK


now, where are those other two scripts!

Keep Flying!

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Thursday, February 27, 2003 4:16 PM

MOOSE


Thank You!


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Thursday, February 27, 2003 4:25 PM

HAPLO721


The other scripts are forthcoming. The poster of the thread over at the official forums is getting it from somebody who bought the scripts off of eBay. Side note: I've copied & pasted the script into a word doc and spellchecked, as well as removing production notes and swapping around a scene that was shot out of sequence. Haken, if you're seeing this, you wanna post it here?

Early: You ever been raped, Kaylee?
Kaylee: You know, it's funny you should mention that... ever heard of the Fox network?

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Thursday, February 27, 2003 4:27 PM

SUCCATASH


I almost don't want to see them, 'cuz I KNOW Fox will air the eps this summer, right?



Has YOUR mom seen Firefly, lately?

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Thursday, February 27, 2003 4:39 PM

ZENROOM


An absolute curse on Fox! When and why did programmes designed for intelligent viewers become so painfully marginalised?

Even now, I can't watch past episodes of Firefly without growling and ranting at the walls.

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Thursday, February 27, 2003 5:04 PM

DUNDEE


I copyed the script to a word doccument and saved it incase it gets taken off but i didn't read it, im still waiting to SEEE it and goramit i WILL see it

Dear diary, Today I was pompous and my sister was crazy,
Today we where kidnapped my hill folk never to be seen again, it was the best day ever.

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Thursday, February 27, 2003 6:52 PM

SARAHETC


Oh. My. God.

I so kirked out in the Fox thread.

I'm still kirked out!

I feel like screaming!!!!

Sarah

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

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Thursday, February 27, 2003 7:18 PM

SUCCATASH


Sarah, thank you for Kirking out on me and everyone else. You add such a wonderful flavor to Haken's site.


P.S. No need to tell me that I do the same, 'cuz I already know.




Has YOUR mom seen Firefly, lately?

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Thursday, February 27, 2003 7:33 PM

TALRIUS


I... I... I couldn't help myself I peeked at the presents in the closet. I know it's not in the spirit of the hollidays but I just couldn't help myself. My hair is now completely white and my hair looks similar to Book's. I still shudder with excitment. It's like that Steven King short story the "Jaunt" I'm that little kid that stayed awake.

I'm even more severly pissed at Fox now after reading the script it had what mindless sex and vilence driven people wanted and a touching story that made you just sit there with your mouth on the floor after each event in the climax. I won't riun it but this episode was great now if I can only see it out side my head.

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Thursday, February 27, 2003 7:35 PM

SUCCATASH


I won't read it until I'm sure I won't see it.....

Has YOUR mom seen Firefly, lately?

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Thursday, February 27, 2003 7:40 PM

SARAHETC


Quote:

Originally posted by Talrius:
I... I... I couldn't help myself I peeked at the presents in the closet. I know it's not in the spirit of the hollidays but I just couldn't help myself. My hair is now completely white and my hair looks similar to Book's. I still shudder with excitment. It's like that Steven King short story the "Jaunt" I'm that little kid that stayed awake.



Word! That's exactly it! I feel like that kid! My first thought was 'Holy Crispy Crap!'

That poor kid.

But I have no regrets! Not a one!

Succatash, sugar, you'll get to see it. I know you will.

Sarah

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

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Thursday, February 27, 2003 7:47 PM

TALRIUS


Haplo721,

Which scene is out of order from the 'official' posting. Don't describe it just give me the scene heading in the production notes.

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Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:13 PM

JERRY


Without getting spoilery, this episode (which was supposed to fall between Ariel and Objects in Space) casts a new light on River's view of Mal and Inara in OiS, I think.

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Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:17 PM

TALRIUS


What?

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Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:54 PM

SUCCATASH


I believe that Jerry made a comment about the script, "Heart of Gold."

He tried not to spoil anything, though.



Has YOUR mom seen Firefly, lately?

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Friday, February 28, 2003 3:09 AM

SARAHETC


Quote:

Originally posted by Jerry:
Without getting spoilery, this episode (which was supposed to fall between Ariel and Objects in Space) casts a new light on River's view of Mal and Inara in OiS, I think.



I think it's War Stories and Objects in Space.

(been wrong before)

Sarah

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

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Friday, February 28, 2003 4:10 AM

MELEE


*reads the script... falls off her swivle chair and twitches a bit*

Geeeeeeehhh...

*recovers enough to sit up, but it still twitching in hyperactivity*

Eee! Wonderful! Wash! Zoe! Baby! ALL IN THE SAME CONTEXT! YEEHOO! *dances in an idiotically happy circle*

Oh why FOX?! WHYYYYY GORRAM IT?!

*sets her mongoose loose upon the FOX exectutives*

Go Mr. Fluff! KILL! KIIIIILL!

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Friday, February 28, 2003 4:12 AM

LOSTANGEL


Without getting spoilery....

Never been an Inara fan, but

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

______________________
Lost Angel

WASH: Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction.
ZOE: We live in a space ship, dear.
WASH: So?


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Friday, February 28, 2003 4:31 AM

TZEGHA


Quote:

I think it's War Stories and Objects in Space.


You are right, Sarah. Heart of Gold takes place after WS, but before OiS.

So what Inara/Mal moments are different with this new spoilery knowledge? Nothing from WS, but OIS?

Whoa, hey now: first,from OiS:

Inara, "I don't know why I haven't left already."

Mal, "I don't know what's keeping you/forcing you to stay." (me being lazy and not looking up the exact words)

So um, without being explicit, that makes no sense in light of this missing ep . . .

So, in case the title of the thread wasn't spoiler warning enough:

**********SPOILER WARNING!************

. . . unless Inara has made her statement to leave, and now she has reneged on that comment because she is just weak in the knees, and waiting for Mal to tell her no. Perhaps procrastinating, giving Mal plenty of time to keep her from leaving at all? She's definitely afraid of herself/her emotions . . . it just seems odd that they would go back to their song and dance after that.

Second, In the kitchen scene discussing River, Inara busts in to the snickering saying that it isn't a laughing matter, that what they are discussing is their lives, and River's life. Now, if she was gonna go ahead with what she claimed (I'm trying to be all discreet here), then wouldn't she just have said, "This is River's life we're talking about?" or "River and your life"?

Third, the final scene where Mal checks out her cut lip, and she pushes his hand away, and Mal has a big 'whoops, I just crossed that line that I have no right to cross' look on his face.

That actually still makes sense. That was actually the scene that said something happened between them in HoG. That some new progression in their relationship happened, and it backfired badly. Now we know what it was.

Is it safe to discuss the actual script here? Should we do big spoilery warnings at the top of each post? What's this sites etiquette on such things?

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Friday, February 28, 2003 5:57 AM

KAYTHRYN


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I don’t know if I was the only one, but when I read this script it didn't sound all that Firefly-like to me. It did have a few jokes that sounded great, but I'm trying not to say too much and spoil it for other fans. I think a lot of what makes Firefly so wonderful is the cast and the acting, not just the script, so maybe that was why it didn’t quite click for me. But just to argue and question, how do we know that this is the actual script? I think everyone knew that Heart of Gold had a plethora of whores and a bordello on a dusty planet, so it could be faked. Maybe I’m just paranoid. Did anyone else notice the same things?


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Friday, February 28, 2003 6:02 AM

TZEGHA


Ahah! So that's how you do it!

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I agree that there is a potential for falsification, either in its entirety, or even in missing scenes or changed dialogue. There's nothing stopping the guy who transcribed this for us to alter it, either to f*ck with us, or to save some really big surprise for when we finally see it


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Friday, February 28, 2003 6:16 AM

TZEGHA


Is this gonna turn into a completely blank thread?

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See, I thought it sounded very Firefliery to me.



I was reading it, going . . . I should never have attempted to write a fic . . . my feeble attempts to fill the void since FF's untimely demise pale in comparison to this, fake or genuine . . .

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Friday, February 28, 2003 8:01 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


This is GREAT!!!

I am going to go home and read this tonight! I am so happy to be able to at least read one of the three unaired episodes if nothing else.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."


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Friday, February 28, 2003 8:03 AM

HAPLO721


Scene 30 has a note indicating that Scene 31 should be shown first. I juxtaposed them and swapped the scene numbers.

Early: You ever been raped, Kaylee?
Kaylee: You know, it's funny you should mention that... ever heard of the Fox network?

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Friday, February 28, 2003 8:31 AM

JAKE7


I can't get in. The site appears to either be down, or the traffic has gotten out of control.

Is this script posted anywhere else?

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Friday, February 28, 2003 9:00 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Jake 7 wrote:

Quote:

I can't get in. The site appears to either be down, or the traffic has gotten out of control.


It is working okay for me. Try again.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."


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Friday, February 28, 2003 10:38 AM

JAKE7


I did. It's the link that wouldn't work.

If I went to the actual site and got into the thread it worked.

Should there have been more than just up to Act Two? If so, I can't get to it.

Was pretty impressed with what I did read.

Got a good Firefly fix there but I'd like to read more, if it's available!

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Friday, February 28, 2003 10:59 AM

TALRIUS


The second post on that thread is the continuation of the script or you can just go to post queue tab on this sites home page, it was posted here too.

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Friday, February 28, 2003 11:16 AM

HAPLO721


If you want the edited script, contact me haplo781 at adelphia dot net and put "Heart of Gold" in the subject line.

Early: You ever been raped, Kaylee?
Kaylee: You know, it's funny you should mention that... ever heard of the Fox network?

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Friday, February 28, 2003 11:23 AM

TALRIUS


Just e-mailed you.

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Friday, February 28, 2003 12:47 PM

SARAHETC


Quote:

Originally posted by Tzegha:
Is this gonna turn into a completely blank thread?

Select to view spoiler:


See, I thought it sounded very Firefliery to me.



I was reading it, going . . . I should never have attempted to write a fic . . . my feeble attempts to fill the void since FF's untimely demise pale in comparison to this, fake or genuine . . .



Let's no going saying things we can't take back!

It's very, very good. It entertained me and made me happy and made me think. It's an echo--it'll never be the real thing, but that's okay.

So, hush now.

Sarah

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

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Friday, February 28, 2003 1:12 PM

KAYTHRYN


I’m sorry to post this, but that Heart of Gold script brought it on.
I know a lot of fan’s are not going to like it, but as much as I love Firefly, I feel like it was almost nice that we only got to see a few episodes. We were all given a small look into the lives of these characters and their world. Most of us learned the lingo, and can all relate to something or someone. We were given just enough information to keep imagining what might of happened next, and for each fan the future scenarios are different. (Personally I foresee Simon falling madly in love with a red head named Kaythryn and Zoë teaching her to shoot. ) But, and I only say this because I don’t see Firefly coming back, if we were able to see ten years of Firefly it wouldn’t be the same as we see it now. I have a bad feeling that the amazing, original ideas would waver. Everyone would sleep around with everyone, people who die off and come back, or worse, be replaced by a different actors. Example: Years down the road Jubel Early comes back on the show, joins the gang, and then has years of an on and off again sexual relationship with Kaylee who he had threatened to rape earlier. I don’t know if I could take that. (In that story line Jubel is like Spike from Buffy the Vampire Slayer- don’t get me wrong, I like that show, but I don’t think it would work in the wild world of Firefly.) This doesn’t change the fact that I would still watch Firefly religiously, but I like how it has stayed in my mind.
***SPOILER!***

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Here's the part that actually has something to do with Heart of Gold. At the end when Inara says she’s leaving-- maybe it’s a joke-- but it didn’t fit with the picture of Firefly I’ve had in my mind for so long. I knew she tried to keep separate from the criminal life on Serenity, but I figured her to stay around with her “family”.


Just another example of why I like keeping Firefly the way I’ve seen it in the aired episodes. Alright, I figure that’s enough of that. Sorry for how all that ended up sounding, I'm really not anti-Firefly, just a lover-of-firefly-and-not-wanting-it-to-change.

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Friday, February 28, 2003 1:39 PM

TZEGHA


Quote:

Originally posted by Kaythryn:

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At the end when Inara says she’s leaving-- maybe it’s a joke-- but it didn’t fit with the picture of Firefly I’ve had in my mind for so long. I knew she tried to keep separate from the criminal life on Serenity, but I figured her to stay around with her “family”.




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She's not 'leaving' because of criminal activities. She's leaving because being near Mal is too painful. Her decision is exactly in keeping with how I view Firefly, and Inara's character.


LOL, this is going to be an empty thread.

I'm in a rush, sorry if that came out curt, gotta run and get my Colin Farrel fix

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Friday, February 28, 2003 1:49 PM

SARAHETC


Quote:

Originally posted by Kaythryn:
I’m sorry to post this, but that Heart of Gold script brought it on.
I know a lot of fan’s are not going to like it, but as much as I love Firefly, I feel like it was almost nice that we only got to see a few episodes. We were all given a small look into the lives of these characters and their world. Most of us learned the lingo, and can all relate to something or someone. We were given just enough information to keep imagining what might of happened next, and for each fan the future scenarios are different. ([clip]
Just another example of why I like keeping Firefly the way I’ve seen it in the aired episodes. Alright, I figure that’s enough of that. Sorry for how all that ended up sounding, I'm really not anti-Firefly, just a lover-of-firefly-and-not-wanting-it-to-change.



Hey, Kaythryn, I dig you. While right now I seriously believe that our series has a chance, I've thought what you wrote.

This is a little how it is in my head--we were given a little something precious. If that's all we get, it's enough. Yes? No? They're a family on Serenity (insert your own Inara thought here) and we're a family out here now, too, I think. Even if we never meet each other and nothing ever happens, I feel like being here in this now with y'all is also a precious thing.

No matter how much more we get, I'm holding to this and to the sacredness of it.

Do I make any sense? I hope so.

Sarah

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

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Friday, February 28, 2003 8:50 PM

RIVERSSHOT


Sarah,
You make perfect sense. This board is my home away from home, and I think it is the same for several others. Serenity created a family (at times might be dysfunctional ) but it is a wonderful family that we all learned to love.

I love our family, here, now. And I will never forget or leave it.


~Rivers_Shot~

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Friday, February 28, 2003 8:51 PM

DESERTDRAGON


I just tried to reach the script at Prospero and it says this discussion does not exist. Can anyone send me a complete copy ?? Or point me in another direction? Thanxs!

~Misty
gentlehunger@hotmail.com

... see you Space Cowboy.
(-Cowboy Bebop)

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Friday, February 28, 2003 9:09 PM

HAKEN

Likes to mess with stuffs.


Hey, you're right. They took it offline. I wonder if they're going to hunt down all the copies that are floating out there.

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Saturday, March 1, 2003 6:10 AM

MOOSE


I hope it doesn't affect the possibility of the other two episode scripts getting on-line.

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Saturday, March 1, 2003 6:19 AM

JAKE7


Talrius, I didn't get a button to continue reading the script, which I thought was odd.

HALPO, I've emailed you for a copy.

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Saturday, March 1, 2003 1:34 PM

HJERMSTED


On the subject of 'Heart of Gold's' placement between 'War Stories' and 'Objects in Space':

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Notice how Kaylee is still twitchy around River? ...not knowing quite yet whether she can trust her friend or not... the resolution presented in 'OiS' obviously has yet to happen.

Also, I was wondering why Inara was so grumpy in 'OiS' and now I have a better idea having read what went down in 'HoG'.



Looking forward to reading the two remaining scripts.

Stay shiny!

mattro

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Monday, March 3, 2003 5:38 AM

KISBUNDAS



D'oh...
I saw the link yesterday but my eyes were too tired to read it on the computer screen...having the world's slowest printer at home I figured I'd just wait til today to print it out at work, but alas, now it is gone.

If anyone else downloaded a copy I'd love to read it too. My email address is jennifer@rockman.com.

Thanks a bushel and a peck!

-kisbundas

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Monday, March 3, 2003 7:08 AM

KETHRYVERIS


Quote:

Originally posted by Melee:
*reads the script... falls off her swivle chair and twitches a bit*

Geeeeeeehhh...

*recovers enough to sit up, but it still twitching in hyperactivity*

Eee! Wonderful! Wash! Zoe! Baby! ALL IN THE SAME CONTEXT! YEEHOO! *dances in an idiotically happy circle*

Oh why FOX?! WHYYYYY GORRAM IT?!

*sets her mongoose loose upon the FOX exectutives*

Go Mr. Fluff! KILL! KIIIIILL!



You forgot
SPOILER WARNING (sorry I don't know how to do that hidden text thing)
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NAKED CAPTAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

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Monday, March 3, 2003 10:14 AM

LJC

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Monday, March 3, 2003 10:18 AM

RANDY


Kisbundas, I just e-mailed you the script. I hope it is the whole thing... I didn't do the scene switching that someone else did above. Enjoy!

"...morbid and creepifying, I got no problem with" - Mal

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Monday, March 3, 2003 10:18 AM

RANDY


Kisbundas, I just e-mailed you the script. I hope it is the whole thing... I didn't do the scene switching that someone else did above. Enjoy!

"...morbid and creepifying, I got no problem with" - Mal

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Monday, March 3, 2003 10:38 AM

KISBUNDAS


as always...firefly fans rock...

was i wrong in thinking that there was a link to the script on a listserv yesterday...did someone actually make them take down that post? I know the one on the fox forum had disappeared somewhat suddenly, but I thought for sure it would have stuck around longer on this board.

I don't think there is going to be much that they can do to keep it from fans now that it has found its way onto the Internet.

I look forward to reading it (both versions) tonight!

-kisbundas
you can't take the script (er, sky) from me!

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Monday, March 3, 2003 3:25 PM

DRAKON


both version????

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Tuesday, March 4, 2003 5:25 AM

KISBUNDAS


Two kind folks sent me copies...supposedly there is one version with rearranged scenes (this is what i was told...but I have no idea which scenes and to what extent there are differeneces since I haven't compared them both yet). Someone more in-the-know than I may be better off fielding this question. I just picked one at random and then I'll look at the other one once I'm done. ...I'm just glad to have a copy at all...I've read some of the spolier/discussion posts and it looks like its a wonderful episode.

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Thursday, March 6, 2003 1:32 PM

LORA


Kisbundas, would you describe the differences between the two you have? I only found one version and enjoyed it much. Are there significant differences in those you have?

Has anyone heard when we might get to SEE this episode?

Gorramit, FOX!

"Is there any way I'm gonna get out of this with honor and dignity?" Zoe, War Stories

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