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Serenity up to #3

POSTED BY: GEEJAKE
UPDATED: Monday, December 19, 2005 05:05
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Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:01 AM

GEEJAKE


As of thurs 12/15 at 4pm ..Serenity is at #3 and Firefly(the series) is at #12 on Amazon.com's top sellar list...
This is significant for several different reasons..
1. They are both competing against some hugely popular titles(March of the Penguins,Revenge of the Sith,Madagascar,Lost season 1,Family Guy vol. 3,Seinfeld,Simpsons,Oprah,40 year old Virgin etc....)
2. Firefly came out 2 years ago and Serenity has not been released yet.. All of the other titles in the top 20 have already somewhat recently been released..
3. A cobination of #1 and #2 and its current rankings on the Amazon top seller list (amongst others)should be opening some eyes..
4. My understanding from a Whedon interview as recently as Dec 10th 2005 is that the future of the Firefly/Serenity franchise depended on the success of the DVD sales (i dont want to hear that the movie killed hopes of any sequels ) I am going by Whedon's words as of Dec 10th of this month...From what I can tell the DVD is already on its way to being successful so what is next??


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Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:09 AM

MEIMEIMEG


Woo-hoo!!! This news just made my day. Thanks for the report.

Joss himself said it - DVD sales are going to be key in determining the future of our beloved 'verse. If we keep it up, that future could be shiny, indeed.

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:41 AM

THESTEVE


Excellent!!

My copy of Serenity arrived today from movietyme.com

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:42 AM

HARSHCRITIC


I am glad to see someone being positive for a change.

I noticed that today as well. It is right behind Star Wars. That is great advertising right there! I search amazon all the time to look for rentals and movies to see at the $1 theater.

Can we make it to #1?


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Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:53 AM

SCHIZORABBIT


thanks geejake for the good news!

although a lot of trolls (any of ya visit the imdb boards?--jeez) like to consider serenity a flop, i kinda view it as the little engine that could. (crosses fingers). ah, wouldn't it be nice if serenity becomes a dvd blockbuster (no pun intended), warranting a...dare i say it?...sequel? (crosses fingers harder).

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:55 AM

PSOLARIS


This is wonderful news!! Makes me a little more hopeful each time news like this is brought up.

Psolaris

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:06 PM

JADEHAND


GeeJake,
Thanks for the update, I'm one of those that's just plannig to run out and buy it on Tues. instead of ordering it. Getting it in the store gives me a chance to run around holding it up and screaming, or something to get others to look at it. I was just wondering if you or anyone else could post a link to the top sellers. I'm curious how another cult "tv show" with a recent movie is doing. Are the Aeon Flux DVDs anywhere to be seen in the top sellers? Just interested in comparing.

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:06 PM

SPECTER


yeah saw that today on amazon, good/great news to be had.

check the status of the dvd ranking everyday =P, happy to see it at #3

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:57 PM

NIKNAK


Check this out:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/15762421/ref=d_best_1_2/
103-9360425-2465405


Firefly is Amazon.com's 16th bestselling DVD for the whole of 2005. It was 61st in 2003 and 60th in 2004 (It was released 9th December 2003). Can't be sure but I'd guess that it has sold more copies because of Serenity than it did because of airing on Fox.

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:11 PM

CUB


Quote:

Originally posted by niknak:
Check this out:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/15762421/ref=d_best_1_2/
103-9360425-2465405


Firefly is Amazon.com's 16th bestselling DVD for the whole of 2005. It was 61st in 2003 and 60th in 2004 (It was released 9th December 2003). Can't be sure but I'd guess that it has sold more copies because of Serenity than it did because of airing on Fox.



Yeah, and people are still quoting that "500,000 Firefly sets sold" figure, which was the total BEFORE 2005.

So I'd have to guess the Firefly set has at least topped 1.5 million sold by now.

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:17 PM

STAKETHELURK


Quote:

Can't be sure but I'd guess that it has sold more copies because of Serenity than it did because of airing on Fox.
Possibly. If you look at Haken's Amazon sales tracker, "Firefly" got to the number one spot based solely on pre-orders, but by about six months after its release it had dropped into the 100s, where it remained until the Serenity trailer was released online in April 2005. That day, it shot from around 150 to 93, and by the next day it was in the 20s. From then on, it's almost never dropped below the 20s. With such a long period of high sales, it's possible "Firefly" has sold more copies due to the Serenity buzz than before the BDM talk started up.

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:19 PM

AEGIS


Noticed yesterday on one of Australia's biggest DVD retailer's sites:

http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/dvds

Top Selling DVD Home
1. Firefly (Season 1) (Box Set)
2. Fantastic 4
3. Sin City
4. Batman Begins (Exclusive Slipcase)
5. Madagascar
6. Kill Bill Vol 1
7. Kill Bill Vol 2
8. Star Wars Episode 3
9. Da Kath & Kim Code
10. Little Britain (Series 2)

Which is pretty impressive considering we've only JUST had Firefly on in some areas here (graveyard shift mind you - our TV stations suck crusty bits) - not that my city had it *mumble* *mutter*

--- Aegis
www.legalwarfare.com

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:49 PM

CLEANER


Sadly there is a high quality DVD rip already available for download. How did this happen? Is the DVD already out in another region?



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Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:50 PM

CBY


It isn't that shiny in Germany I'm afraid. They released the Firefly Box just a few weeks ago (somewhere in November). One tv channel bought the rights to send it some time ago but obviously it's too risky for them to actually air it.

At Amazon Germany the box is listed at 168, the BDM DVD is not announced yet. I guess they will release it in summer 06 (it always takes that long here).

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:55 PM

AEGIS


Cleaner, I don't think the rip is a bad thing. Personally, I got into firefly because i stumbled over the series on the net having never heard of it... watched the first 2 episodes, then was heartened to find that K-Mart here had it for $50 AU!! bought it in a shot :)

I really think this is one of those movies people will get for the extras as much as the movie itself too, the people involved are just too damned cool!

--- Aegis
www.legalwarfare.com

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:26 PM

FCYBERDRAGON


Quote:

Originally posted by Aegis:
Cleaner, I don't think the rip is a bad thing. Personally, I got into firefly because i stumbled over the series on the net having never heard of it... watched the first 2 episodes, then was heartened to find that K-Mart here had it for $50 AU!! bought it in a shot :)

I really think this is one of those movies people will get for the extras as much as the movie itself too, the people involved are just too damned cool!

--- Aegis
www.legalwarfare.com



Me too I downloaded Serenity on the net and Firefly too. Now I'm a really big Fan and I'll buy the DVD's for sure, even if I have all the extras. I'll buy them to hope that there will be a sequel to the series if they got enough cash.

"I will not fear, fear is the mind killer. I will face my fear, I will let it pass trough me" -Leto Atreides

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:42 PM

RIVERGODDESS


Seriously, best news I've heard all day. I mean, doing this good on pre-order! Way to go! I'll be one of those camped outside our Blockbuster the morning its released. I honestly can't wait for our impossibly slow mailman to drop it off. And did you all look at Firefly and Serenity's rating compared to the other hits? Come on, that's got to get some notice by picky movie/tv critics, too. The more sales, the better. I know what I'm giving for Christmas presents this year, that's for sure!

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:54 PM

EMBERS


great news!
And I know that a lot of local stores that never carried 'Firefly' are going to carry 'Serenity'...

which I hope will lead to even MORE 'Firefly' sales down the road!

I'm sure our verse will keep on growing,
slowly but surely.

**********************************************
watch the R. Tam Session vids: http://www.hittarivertam.nu/
and buy the 'Serenity' comics published by Dark Horse,
and have you joined the Browncoats yet?
http://browncoats.serenitymovie.com/serenity/?fuseaction=tools.invlink
&u=embers&linkID=36

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 4:19 PM

AEGIS


I still can't believe a film like *spit* Titanic can do so well, and yet one like Serenity did so poorly. There's no sodding justice in this world i tell you!

--- Aegis
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Thursday, December 15, 2005 5:06 PM

CAIUS


Note that this is on the SciFi/Fantasy bestsellers list not the more general DVD list.

Currently 4 and 7.

-Caius

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 5:13 PM

RIVERGODDESS


Actually, it is the general list. In the science fiction/fantasy section it's #2, and Firefly is #4!

*~*~
Summer's response to Nathan getting his very own action figure:
"I tried to pull his head off."

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 6:12 PM

AEGIS


Annnnnd just to aid the few aussies reading the list:

http://www.serenitymovie.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=1968

be sure and pick carefully where you buy your copy of the movie from! or, hell, just buy all 3!

--- Aegis
www.legalwarfare.com

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 6:32 PM

RIVERGODDESS


Lucky dogs!!! I want a Serenity tin, gorrammit! Oooo, or a mouse pad. Maybe I can have my buddy in Australia wire one over!

*~*~
Summer's response to Nathan getting his very own action figure:
"I tried to pull his head off."

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 9:46 PM

ANDRE83


Is that 3rd spot? Really? I must be dreaming, pinch me!

But really, this is great. Its surely moving in the right direction.



Jayne: All those years of preacher training, getting knocked out by one bounty hunter
Book: Oh, dont get me wrong. I gave him a hell of a fight
Jayne: Epic i'm guessing

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Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:07 PM

SENSHICAT


That has to be the greatest news ive heard in a long time!!!

firefly and serenity have to be on top of my favorite series and movies ever

thank you Joss Whedon

Marry a Marsh.....Breed more Deep Ones

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Friday, December 16, 2005 2:52 AM

SHINYBROWNSHORTS


Quote:

Originally posted by Senshicat:
That has to be the greatest news ive heard in a long time!!!

firefly and serenity have to be on top of my favorite series and movies ever

thank you Joss Whedon

Marry a Marsh.....Breed more Deep Ones



For those of us who would really like the series to return we should purchase multiple copies of the movie as gifts. This will inflate the sales figures and will "johnny appleseed" the series ---Think about it

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Friday, December 16, 2005 3:06 AM

ANDRE83


Seriously, this IS great. Firefly is now number 11, and lost (you know - the super mega popular show that every executive loves because of the income) is number 10. Shouldnt that ring a huuuge bell for the decision makers?

I meen, after 3 years on DVD it is only marginaly beaten by lost... Take that!

We rule! :P

Jayne: All those years of preacher training, getting knocked out by one bounty hunter
Book: Oh, dont get me wrong. I gave him a hell of a fight
Jayne: Epic i'm guessing

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Friday, December 16, 2005 3:20 AM

FLYWITHMECAPTN


We do Rule!!!!!




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Friday, December 16, 2005 4:32 AM

JERRYT


I'll be banging on the store door next Tuesday bright and early to let me in so I can get my BDM!

JerryT
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Friday, December 16, 2005 6:27 AM

SAMUELK


Please keep in mind that the Amazon list is the top selling movies for the DAY, so DVDs mentioned in this post (Madagascar, March of the Penguins, etc.) that have already been released are not likely to sell as many copies on the same day as a pre-order.

Still, seeing Serenity at #3 is great news. :)

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Friday, December 16, 2005 7:07 AM

KINGMATTRESS


It's changed. Firefly's now at 11. Sadly, Serenity has dropped to #4, behind both versions of March of the Penguins (WHY IS THIS MOVIE GETTING SO MUCH CREDIT?!?!?!?!? IT WAS BORING!!!) and Star Wars. Overall, it's the #3 movie, #4 seller.

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Friday, December 16, 2005 9:35 AM

EMBERS


I just got an e-mail from Amazon, they are shipping my copy of 'Serenity' NOW!!
Yay!
AND I just saw an ad for the 'Serenity' DVD on TV,
it was short, but looked great....

Tonight 'Firefly' is on Sci-fi, I hope they'll run ads too

but I have to say, I didn't find 'March of the Penquins' boring at all
but I wasn't that excited about that Sith movie...

**********************************************
watch the R. Tam Session vids: http://www.hittarivertam.nu/
and buy the 'Serenity' comics published by Dark Horse,
and have you joined the Browncoats yet?
http://browncoats.serenitymovie.com/serenity/?fuseaction=tools.invlink
&u=embers&linkID=36

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Friday, December 16, 2005 10:02 AM

GEEJAKE


Be more positive people..Its hard for me to accept that the strong sales #s for Firefly/Serenity has any negative side to it....I am not confident that the franchise will go on , I am hopeful.. I think there is evidence of a recent popularity boost for Firefly/Serenity...I am evidence of this , I first watched the show on Dec 1st of this month and last night i saw Serenity for the 2nd time at a lex KY theatre..I have also turned 5 or 6 people onto the show in just the last week..I think the # of fans has increased dramatically in just the last 60 days...
I have a question for the person who posted the message about serenity being a pre-order and that is why it should be selling better dailly on Amazon then DVD's that have already been released(i think that was the jist of it).. I have 2 questions really #1 How does that explain the Firefly DVD success(#11)?
#2 How come there are no other pre-orders on the top-sellar list if pre-orders always sell more then released titles??

Regardless I am encouraged by the DVD #'s.Remember it does not have to be the best selling DVD of all time it just needs to make the Film a financial success...
Though i think i could live with it being #1...



GeeJake

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Friday, December 16, 2005 10:13 AM

BEAR1313


Shiny, Just rented it today. (my local mom & pop video place puts it out the day they recive it. whee) Made my freinds watch it and I plan to give a few copies to my freinds as gifts.
Keep flying!

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Friday, December 16, 2005 10:20 AM

ANDRE83


edit. hhaha

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Friday, December 16, 2005 10:29 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by bear1313:
Shiny, Just rented it today. (my local mom & pop video place puts it out the day they recive it. whee) Made my freinds watch it and I plan to give a few copies to my freinds as gifts.
Keep flying!



You might warn Mom and Pop that if there's any other rental places in the area that don't appreciate the competition putting things on the shelf before street date, they might get reported to the studio. Mom and Pop could be fined a few grand, or not receive future Universal releases untill long after street date.

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Friday, December 16, 2005 10:33 AM

ANDRE83


Quote:

Originally posted by bear1313:
my local mom & pop



You have many?

Jayne: All those years of preacher training, getting knocked out by one bounty hunter
Book: Oh, dont get me wrong. I gave him a hell of a fight
Jayne: Epic i'm guessing

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Friday, December 16, 2005 10:38 AM

LINA


I actually bought a copy of it a week ago at Forbidden Planet in downtown NYC, definitely a legitmate store, and technically a chain.

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Friday, December 16, 2005 10:48 AM

VIKING


this makes me sooooooooo happy :D

what is this pengiunes movie about never heard o it and it has the 2 firt places in the sellers list

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Friday, December 16, 2005 5:06 PM

ROBBIE


I recently saw the television advertisement for the Serenity DVD. It is excellent - attention grabbing, intriguing, makes you want to see the complete story. If this sort of advertising had been part of the campaign for the theatrical release, I believe the Serenity box office take would have been millions higher.

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Friday, December 16, 2005 5:23 PM

LIZWHIZ


Serenity's #2 at amazon.ca.
:)

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Friday, December 16, 2005 5:32 PM

SENSHICAT


Quote:

Originally posted by shinybrownshorts:
Quote:

Originally posted by Senshicat:
That has to be the greatest news ive heard in a long time!!!

firefly and serenity have to be on top of my favorite series and movies ever

thank you Joss Whedon

Marry a Marsh.....Breed more Deep Ones



For those of us who would really like the series to return we should purchase multiple copies of the movie as gifts. This will inflate the sales figures and will "johnny appleseed" the series ---Think about it




Thats a very good idea, ive talked to my roomates and we'll be buying our own copies anyways. EVERYONE should do this!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Friday, December 16, 2005 6:09 PM

GEEJAKE


Just saw Firefly reached #10 on amazon...That is the highest I have seen it...Serenity at #4

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Friday, December 16, 2005 6:19 PM

CUB


Quote:

Originally posted by geejake:
Just saw Firefly reached #10 on amazon...That is the highest I have seen it...Serenity at #4



The Firefly set has been in the top five at Amazon for the past few months. It's only recently that it fell out of the top 10.

In fact, the Firefly set is the number 12 overall best seller for the entire year.

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Saturday, December 17, 2005 1:21 AM

ANDRE83


Funny it has passed lost. Oh this makes me happy! :)

Jayne: All those years of preacher training, getting knocked out by one bounty hunter
Book: Oh, dont get me wrong. I gave him a hell of a fight
Jayne: Epic i'm guessing

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Saturday, December 17, 2005 2:24 AM

VIKING


firefly 9 and sernity 4 know YAY:D

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Saturday, December 17, 2005 4:39 AM

GEEJAKE


Does anyone know how to find UPDATED figures for how many Firefly and Serenity DVD's have been sold?? I have tried boxofficemojo as well as google searches and found nothing...I also wanted to ask CUB where you find the top sellar of the year list on Amazon(i can only locate the dailly list)??

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Saturday, December 17, 2005 5:49 AM

STFLETCH


Here is the Amazon top 2005 sellers (however, Firefly is 16th not 12th - still pretty darn good though)

[url] http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/15762421/ref=d_best_1_2/
002-7673156-5999215



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Saturday, December 17, 2005 7:41 PM

CALVINANDHOBBES


hey y'all,

i've been a lurker of the boards for a while and a recent firefly convert (i've recruited many more),

just wanted to update you guys. BOTH Firefly and Serenity are in the Top 10 Best selling DVDs at amazon (Serenity is #2 (beating Star Friggin Wars) and Firefly is #9)

Now that's some good advertising

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/new-for-you/top-sellers/-/dvd/all
/ref=pd_ts_d_nav/104-8872838-0121534

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Sunday, December 18, 2005 12:03 AM

VIKING


man this makes me feel soo good 2 for sereity and 8 for firefly

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