GENERAL DISCUSSIONS

Greg Edmonson at the Flanvention

POSTED BY: ETHAN
UPDATED: Monday, December 19, 2005 14:45
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Monday, December 12, 2005 10:33 PM

ETHAN


There were so many great moments at the Flanvention, planned and impromptu as I'm sure will be posted and read about in the coming weeks.

Well I guess the most special moment for me was when Greg Edmonson popped in on the BDH's autographing session just to visit the crew. He didn't come in announced and I'm sure many of the planners and even cast members were caught off guard by the sudden appearence. I had just recieved an auto from Nathan, when he excused himself from autographing to greet Edmonson (Nathan was the next to last in the 'auto' assembly line, with Adam Baldwin being last) effectively holding hundreds of fans in the lurch. I was privy to the ensuing conversation just a few feet away. It was perfect timing and quite rare serendipity for me!

Anyhow I was very touched about what I heard. Nathan apparently had never met Edmonson before and was quite eager to share with him how touched by his music he was. Both made comments heard in public before, but it was the first time they've actualy said them to each other directly.

As we all know by now Nathan can be quite a ham, and one honestly begins to wonder if the man can ever have a sincere moment...Well Nathan suddenly assumed an air of solemn sincerity that was well, almost 'Mal-like.' What was really interesting was how Nathan and Edmonson seemed to be talking over each other with things they seemed very long eager to unburden.

Nathan was trying to tell Edmonson how moved he was by the music composed for 'Out of Gas,' while at the very same time Edmonson babbled about how he was trying to say goodbye to the crew with his score to 'The Message.' But what really struck me was just how much of fan Edmonson seemed to be right then...Edmonson was just needing to express (like any crazed Flan in the room) just how much he himself was moved and needed to express in any way possible his love for the 'Verse...and in so doing somehow hoping to claim a stake in it for himself. No matter how quixotic that love can be for the fans, it didn't seem necessary for Edmonson, who is so much a part of the Fire Fly cannon as any of our BDH's. Nathan was clearly moved by Edmonson's passion at that moment, and Nathan came through like a mench by announcing to the distracted crowd Edmonson's presence and thus drawing an applause. Nathan complemented him again but apologized as he had to get back to autographing. Then I saw Nathan pat the sagely old composer on the shoulder the same gentle sweet way 'Mal' used to only do for Serenity on Firefly.

Perhaps I have an over active imagination I don't know...but I couldn't help nonetheless sense a tacit hurt in Edmonson's demeaner.

If there was, it could be through no fault of anyone in the room...and as such no bitterness was conveyed. But perhaps a creative decision made by someone else...somewhere else a while ago and now unspoken...lead to a choice and a sentiment to exclude this man from Serenity..which still casts a long shadow over him. And here he was now, trying to emerge from that shadow, looking to find if he in some way still belonged. If this was true, it was but a whisper in the wind. But I think Nathan sensed a little of it, and was very kind.

Not wanting to leave anything to chance, I got my last auto from Adam and immeadiately went up to Edmonson. Several fans where already engaging him, and I think he'd signed a couple of CD's. I wanted and did nothing more but tell him "I am a big fan of your work and that as far as I am concerned...you are the 10th member of the crew." Edmonson's reaction was worth everything. He put a hand up to his chest and said, "You may not know it, but that means so much to me, so much." I said, "Well I mean it." And I did. He said "Thank you so much. Thank you."

Later that evening I bumped into two fans who spoke to Edmonson after our exchange. They told me I made his day. I just hope he truly understands how much he means to FireFly. And I hope the fans can continue to let him know.











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Monday, December 12, 2005 11:09 PM

PAINISSCARY


What a great story! I didn't even know GE was there till Nathan mentioned him during the last panel. At what point was he in the autograph room?

Thanks for expressing to GE exactly what many of us feel about him and his wonderful FF score (and let's not forget his fantastic music for "King of the Hill"). Even after having watched every episode probably at least ten times, the music (along with the acting, writing, directing, etc.) never ceases to move me, whether it's making me cry (e.g., "The Funeral," "Boom," etc.) or filling me with joy ("Spaceball" and "River's Dance," among many others).

I remember how disappointed I was (and still am) that Greg wasn't brought aboard for the movie, since his music was such a huge part of making the show so perfect. Wish I could've also told Greg how much his music means to me, but very happy you conveyed to him what you did and that he was so touched by it.

"Hamsters is nice."

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Monday, December 12, 2005 11:09 PM

PAINISSCARY


What a great story! I didn't even know GE was there till Nathan mentioned him during the last panel. At what point was he in the autograph room?

Thanks for expressing to GE exactly what many of us feel about him and his wonderful FF score (and let's not forget his fantastic music for "King of the Hill"). Even after having watched every episode probably at least ten times, the music (along with the acting, writing, directing, etc.) never ceases to move me, whether it's making me cry (e.g., "The Funeral," "Boom," etc.) or filling me with joy ("Spaceball" and "River's Dance," among many others).

I remember how disappointed I was (and still am) that Greg wasn't brought aboard for the movie, since his music was such a huge part of making the show so perfect. Wish I could've also told Greg how much his music means to me, but very happy you conveyed to him what you did and that he was so touched by it.

"Hamsters is nice."

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Monday, December 12, 2005 11:17 PM

ETHAN


I'm guessing he was in the festival room at around 6:00 pm, Sunday. I was on line so long...lost sense of time. My pass was number #286!

Yes, I'm very thankful for having the chance to express that to him! :)

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Monday, December 12, 2005 11:25 PM

PAINISSCARY


I was about a hundred behind you (#395!)

Wonder if GE was still in the room when I went through. I was so intent on the BDH's, though (and not dropping my stack of comics I was getting signed), I probably wouldn't have noticed anyone else.

It's weird, 'cause I thought about bringing my FF CD along, thinking and/or hoping that GE might show up (so I could babble like a fan-boy about how great his music is) but then I didn't and he did. The important thing, however, is that he knows we love his music and appreciate how much it contributed to the show.

"Hamsters is nice."

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Monday, December 12, 2005 11:25 PM

PAINISSCARY


I was about a hundred behind you (#395!)

Wonder if GE was still in the room when I went through. I was so intent on the BDH's, though (and not dropping my stack of comics I was getting signed), I probably wouldn't have noticed anyone else.

It's weird, 'cause I thought about bringing my FF CD along, thinking and/or hoping that GE might show up (so I could babble like a fan-boy about how great his music is) but then I didn't and he did. The important thing, however, is that he knows we love his music and appreciate how much it contributed to the show.

"Hamsters is nice."

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Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:01 AM

ERICO


Awh, this makes me so happy! I'm so glad he showed up. Believe me, I made it very clear to him how crazy we are about what he did for the show.

His interview will appear in next week's Firefly Talk.

Eric




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Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:41 AM

PAINISSCARY


Hopefully for the next Flanvention, they'll schedule Greg as a guest and have him speak on a panel. It would be great to hear him talk in-depth about the music, and to get a chance to thank him for his wonderful score.

"Hamsters is nice."

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Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:41 AM

PAINISSCARY


Hopefully for the next Flanvention, they'll schedule Greg as a guest and have him speak on a panel. It would be great to hear him talk in-depth about the music, and to get a chance to thank him for his wonderful score.

"Hamsters is nice."

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Tuesday, December 13, 2005 4:17 AM

CHRISISALL


You said to Greg exactly what I would have, thanks for the story

Chrisisall, Edmonson fan

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Tuesday, December 13, 2005 4:43 AM

FOLLOWMAL




Ethan, I'm so glad you said that to him. His music has touched me so much, and I was sorry they didn't have him do the score for Serenity.

You spoke for many of us Browncoats, thank you.

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Tuesday, December 13, 2005 5:16 AM

DONCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by FollowMal:


Ethan, I'm so glad you said that to him. His music has touched me so much, and I was sorry they didn't have him do the score for Serenity.

You spoke for many of us Browncoats, thank you.

Ditto for me!

They really should have brought him up on stage during the last Q&A. He deserved at least that much recognition. I looked around when Nathan mentioned him, but didn't know what he looked like so I never spotted him. It would have been nice to say hello.



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Tuesday, December 13, 2005 5:24 AM

NYWOE


Yes, GE is amazing. His music makes the spirit of the show. I think that's a large part of the reason why Serenity, although a great movie, was not Firefly.

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Tuesday, December 13, 2005 7:29 AM

DANREGAL


Quote:

Originally posted by erico:
Awh, this makes me so happy! Greg didn't know about the Flanvention till I told him right beforehand, during an interview. I'm so glad he showed up. Believe me, I made it very clear to him how crazy we are about what he did for the show.

His interview will appear in next week's Firefly Talk.

I'm getting into heaven now.

Eric




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He was nice enough to sign some CD's for us on Friday for the Food Drive raffle. He mentioned not knowing about the Flanvention until very recently. He wasn't sure he was going to make it, since he was working all weekend. I spoke to him again on Sunday and he decided to show up.

He had never met the cast before and just wanted the chance to tell them how much he enjoyed the show. He said that no matter how many times he watched the show, he never got tired of it. I think that's part of the reason that the music is so special, it didn't seem like it was just a job to him.

Thank you Ethan for being there and sharing what was said. And also for what you said, he truly was an integral part of making the show what it is.

James

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Tuesday, December 13, 2005 7:57 AM

CHINDI


Ethan

That was a great story and a great moment. I too am glad that you seized that opportunity... does anyone know how to send a letter to GE? I would like to thank him as well...

I am sorry he was a bit hurt by Nathan having to return to his contractural obligations.. but Edmundson should have no lasting pain.. Nathan has said often and with great sincerity that he is moved by the music.... he said in one of the commentaries that he goes back to watch the episodes just to listen to the music.

With all respect to Newman (who Universal probably selected becausee of his impeccable Hollywood composing pedigree) Edmundson would have been a better choide.. he had the feel..

Thanks again Ethan.

Chindi

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Tuesday, December 13, 2005 9:34 AM

JINGTSAI


Lovely, lovely story. Thank you for sharing...and for sharing feelings with Greg Edmonson that many of us share. I never get tired of listening to the music. It is so rich and many-layered and meaningful and sometimes just plain fun. So, there's going to be an interview on Firefly Talk? Shiny. His interview on The Signal was wonderful--his passion for the 'Verse really comes through. I can't wait to hear it.

JingTsai

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Tuesday, December 13, 2005 9:46 AM

ERICO


It's a two-part interview, actually, you'll get around 30 minutes this coming week and 30 the next week. Greg is a really wonderful guy.


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Wednesday, December 14, 2005 4:13 AM

KISPEXI2


That brought tears to my eyes!

Well done you! For saying what you did. You put it beautifully. Greg's music is fabulous. I don't hate what we got for the BDM but I would still rather Greg had been the composer.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2005 4:19 AM

PSYCHICRIVER


He was really nice, and seemed to love talking to the fans, and he's so modest!

PsychicRiver

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Wednesday, December 14, 2005 6:49 AM

ZNACHKI


There is a link to this story over at Whedonesque, in which Ravenu adds to the story.

http://whedonesque.com/comments/8968

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Wednesday, December 14, 2005 9:59 AM

CHINDI


I add my thank you to Greg too. Wish I had met him... but maybe someday.

Music is always important to me and it surely was in this show... I hope Greg sees the posts at Wedonesque...



Chindi with humble thanks for the great score...

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Sunday, December 18, 2005 1:17 PM

JULESONG


Thank you so much for relaying your experience! He contributed so very much to Firefly - it astounds me that more folks don't know/understand how important his music was.

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Sunday, December 18, 2005 3:08 PM

NCBROWNCOAT


I'm sitting here listening to the soundtrack for the first time. It is amazing!

If you just listened to the soundtrack you would want to see what goes with this brilliant score.


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Sunday, December 18, 2005 3:38 PM

SERGEANTX


Wow... it's great to see so many people appreciating GE's work. When the DVD's first came out, many of us where talking about how emotional it was to see it again, especially the interviews. I remember the first one I watched had a segment with him talking about the score for 'The Message'. It brought a tear to my eye listening to the music and understanding what it meant to him.

It was one of the things I missed most watching the movie. This isn't the place to gripe about Serenity, but I don't mind saying that the sound track for the movie was mediocre at best, especially when compared to Greg's work on the series.

SergeantX

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Monday, December 19, 2005 2:45 PM

ETHAN


I'm glad so many people got something from this account. I am humbled by your responses.

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