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If Firefly's your favourite show of all-time, what's your second favourite?

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 5:22 AM

CHRISISALL


We've seen the endless lists; boil it down- 2nd favourite to FF only!

And to those of you for whom FF is not their favourite...YOU SUCK!!! (just kidding! everyone's so sensitive, I swear)

If FF's not your fav, tell us what is, and if FF is your second or not.

ME: Firefly's my total favourite, with Dark Angel a fairly close second. Both series share a writer and a director and more than a little in common with Blade Runner, my favourite film until Serenity came out.

Next please?

Chrisisall, maker of lists

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 6:33 AM

SHIRLOCKC


I liked Dark Angel but I think my next favorite series (after FF) is Babylon 5. As one of the first sci-fi with a defined story arc, it also gave me the sense that when I turned off the TV, the universe and characters still lived somewhere. The acting was not on par with FF or even Dark Angel but the plot/story had scope and vision. Much like FF.

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 6:41 AM

PURPLEPIRATE


Firefly is my favorite, and ST: Enterprise is second.

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 6:59 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:

Next please?



F-Troop. Because the indian fights were colorful sights and nobody took a lickin...

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 7:05 AM

DECLAN


Oh, man! F Troop really goes back aways!

I used to know the theme song by heart when I was in 4th or 5th grade.

Say, is there a DVD out there, do you suppose?

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 7:05 AM

DECLAN


Oh, man! F Troop really goes back aways!

I used to know the theme song by heart when I was in 4th or 5th grade.

Say, is there a DVD out there, do you suppose?

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 7:10 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Are we talking current shows ? If so I don't think I have one :? Maybe a thing here in the UK called SCRAPHEAP CHALLENGE if that counts. But it's not a drama or nothing... just peeps be building things outa junk and challenging each other with it....

Otherwise It'll have to be Northern Exposure

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 7:17 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by Declan:
Oh, man! F Troop really goes back aways!

I used to know the theme song by heart when I was in 4th or 5th grade.

Say, is there a DVD out there, do you suppose?



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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 7:24 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:

Otherwise It'll have to be Northern Exposure

I used to joke that if it didn't have martial arts, OR it wasn't set in space, I wouldn't like it. Maybe Joss heard me....

Northern Exposure is a fine 2nd choice, Somnambulist, we own the first season on dvd. Similar love poured into the writing of the characters. You is definitly eclectic, all right.

Alaskan Chrisisall

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 7:32 AM

EVILBUNNIES


Firefly first, obviously. It replaced my old first choice, Buffy, which I would say is my second. I still love that show with all my heart.

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 7:39 AM

KT


I'd have to go with Buffy as well - with Angel tying...

Outside of the Joss 'verse -

Who's Line Is It Anyways...just for something different!!! What can I say - love both well-written shows - and shows that aren't written at all! It's that mediocre crap I can't take.

KT

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 7:40 AM

LADYSHELLEY


Oh my, I don't know if I can pick just one.

Shows I bothered to actually buy DVD's for (besides Firefly):

Stargate:SG1 (only through season 4 don't know how they still have anything left and they just got renewed again)

Northern Exposure (all three so far)

Horatio Hornblower

Nero Wolfe (Tim Hutton and Maury Chaykin)

Richard Sharpe series

Monty Python

Arrested Development

Of that group it would probably be the early Stargate stuff, though Sharpe would be right there as well. The only show currently running that I care a whit about would be NUMB3RS.


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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 7:47 AM

KAZZAHDRANE


Futurama: a sci-fi comedy cartoon for adults with far-reaching story arcs, and great writing.

Firefly is #1! :D

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 8:08 AM

JACQUI


Well, of course FF is number one, with Buffy and Angel coming in second and third (tying for place actually), but outside of the Jossverse I'd have to say...

Profiler, Friends, Scrubs, Dark Angel, The Pretender, Tru Calling, American Gothic.

Sorry, can never stop at just one.

You'll notice that only one of them is still running: Scrubs. The rest of current tv sucks so much donkey balls the RSPCA is launching an investigation as we speak.

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 8:26 AM

ZOOT


He he! Just saw the title of this thread and thought – that’s gonna be CIA and he’s gonna say FF followed by DA – and what a coincidence – that’s exactly what it is!!!

Thinking about it, I think my liking for shows is inextricably connected to my preference for the underdog – hence I tend to like shows that were fairly short lived and I feel got cut off in their prime … I am therefore tempted to say Wonderfalls is number two, but if I’m totally honest Wonderfalls comes below season 1,2,5 and 6 of West Wing …

DA I loved but don’t think I could watch more than about twice … unless I gave it a year or so …Let’s face it, it’s just too silly (and Logan is SUCH a sap) … (red rag to CIA's bull ...)


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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 8:29 AM

BOOMCHICK


Firefly's my fav. (of the moment) and my second fave... it's divided between three candidates. I just can't choose between Buffy, Wolf's Rain, and Cowboy Bebop!

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 8:44 AM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:

Otherwise It'll have to be Northern Exposure

I used to joke that if it didn't have martial arts, OR it wasn't set in space, I wouldn't like it. Maybe Joss heard me....

Northern Exposure is a fine 2nd choice, Somnambulist, we own the first season on dvd. Similar love poured into the writing of the characters. You is definitly eclectic, all right.

Alaskan Chrisisall



Hi Big "C"

Yeah Northern Exposure used to tug the ol' heart strings alright... I loved that show. Used to fantasize about being snowbound in a log cabin with 'my' Maggie O'connel...

Ok Chrisisall pop quiz:
Your Favourite character?

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 8:55 AM

STORYMARK


I don't know that I can say FF is my fav, just because it didn't last long enough to claim that title.

Though I might say it's definitly my favorite mini-series.

But truth be told, I don't know that I have any 1 favorite, so FF ranks as high as any others...

...Into which list I would have to include Babylon 5, Farscape, Highlander: The Series, Buffy/Angel, and Batman: The Animated Series.

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 8:57 AM

SPRINGFAERY


>>Stargate:SG1 (only through season 4 don't know how they still have anything left and they just got renewed again)>>

I agree. There are good episodes here and there in the later seasons (Abyss, from Season Six, is one of my favorites), but I don't think the show is consistently as good as it used to be in its first four years.

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 9:35 AM

UNREGISTEREDCOMPANION


I m afraid to say what I like. Things I like have a nasty habit of ending up cancelled....

Firefly, Profit, Mystery Science Theatre, John Doe, Dark Angel...

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 10:03 AM

OBIWAN


Very difficult question.

Firefly is certainly my favorite of the moment.

The Original Star Trek is the most important TV Series to me. Does that make it a favorite?

I thought Young Indiana Jones was incredible. It had the same fate as Firefly, but not the fandom.



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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 10:12 AM

FISHSPEAKER


Babylon 5

although Battlestar Galactica TNS is coming on strong!

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 12:09 PM

NWUKSTEVE


If we're only allowed one more show, I'm gonna have to go with Arrested Development. Anyone who hasn't seen it MUST check this show out, it's clever, extremely funny and not like any other sit-com you've ever seen.

And if you have seen it, but didn't like it, then try again. I can appreciate that some might not "get it" at first. But all the hype for this show is fully deserved and if you're missing it, you're missing out.

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 12:24 PM

HELL'S KITTEN


Quote:

Originally posted by PurplePirate:
Firefly is my favorite, and ST: Enterprise is second.

... how... how can you exist...? Not going for the meanness thing here, it's just that those two shows, in my mind, are so... so not anywhere near one another. I guess the extreme diversity of this fandom fascinates me.

Anyway, to Chrisisall's question: yeah, I can't pick one. Would it count if I put all the names into one long title? Such as: BattlestarHouseLostFarscapeGalactica.

...
Not captioned for the sarcasm impared.

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 12:37 PM

COZEN


Get Smart.

Although, gorrmam it if TheSomnambulist (& others?) & I don't agree it's NExp.

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 1:04 PM

STAKETHELURK


It's really hard to pick a single favorite from my top three fave shows, but if I had to, I'd say...

Angel gets first place. No insult to Firefly, but I was more emotionally invested in Angel than any other show I've seen. I luvs the darkness!

Firefly and Buffy the Vampire Slayer tie for second place. Firefly was the first Joss show I ever saw, but BtVS had enough time to spread its wings and really be great. So, they're neck and neck at number two.

Don't even make me try to pick a number three!

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 1:19 PM

MATWANG


Why, there can be only one:

C A R V I V A L E

My take on it: "It's not a show, it's a DRUG."

Footnote to Post, HBO, the biggest drug-dealer on television today, has got millions strung out on Carivale, then drops them flat.

Is this move stupid? Was it made buy NETWORK EXECUTIVES who care more about MONEY than INTEGRITY or, Gawd Forbid....ART?

You bet is was!

Those GORRAM BASTARDS!!! "Oh, it was too expensive... Oh, it "never found it's audience...Oh, gosh, the fans have sent us 50,000 emails every weekend complaining and "threatening us" and Oh! Oh! Isnt' ROME GREAT???

Actually it is, but you see, there's one thing that's really wrong with it: IT AIN'T CARNIVALE!!!!



My my, I fell MUCH better now.

It wouldn't be so bad if we Carnivale Junkies had any hope of finding someone else to conitnue the story.

HBO owns every single right to Carnivale and refuses to sell it to anyone else.

At the close of Season two, they were only at the end of the first "book" that Daniel Knauf wrote... there are two more whole volumes of story to be told. Knauf can't even sell the "book" as a book. HBO owns it hook line and sinker.

HBO + FOX, we HATES them....

YEAH SERENITY!!!! i'M SO GLAD SHE'S FLYING AGAIN!!!!

WHOO 0- W O O O W O O !!!

Okay, I'm done now.

I promise.

MaTwang

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 1:42 PM

QUEENOFTHENORTH


Besides Buffy, it'd be a three way tie between Simpsons, Inuyasha, and Futurama. I really like animated shows apparently.

I give to you the Seeker of Serenity, the Valkyrie Warrior, the Gourmet Cook and the Truth Scoper.

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 1:52 PM

ALLARTICULATE


Prior to Firefly, I would have said X-Files is my all-time favorite, then Buffy, in spite of the faltering quality toward the end of both series.
I flirted with dropping into the abyss of internet fandom when I first fell in love with XF (in season THREE - note to stupid stupid Fox - and, with no DVDs then, had to rely on re-runs and friend's tapes to catch up), but ultimately resisted since I didn't have the kind of access back then to fully indulge. Ironically, it's easier to be a FF junkie because of it's limited run.

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 2:16 PM

CAIUS


B5 hands down. Like Firefly it was about something, had interleaved story arcs and great characters.

-Caius

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 2:34 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Ok Chrisisall pop quiz:
Your Favourite character?


Why, Chris in the morning, who else?

Chrisisall

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 2:46 PM

GIXXER


Bugger. Or rather, congratulations. Beat me to the Babylon 5 punch.

The Singing Detective (old BBC series) was brilliant.

Twin Peaks was funny and deepest pitch black. You can see the likes of Desperate Housewives smugly thinking they're soooooo daring and edgy. Blown out of the water, m'friends.

(If she's just bought some, my wife will still wiggle her toes and say "New Shoes." She's awfully cool.)

G

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 3:10 PM

CLIOMUSE


Homicide: Life on the Street (until season 7) is the only other show I have ever obsessed about.

I guess I just love gritty, real characters, interesting dialog, and handheld camera work.

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 3:36 PM

AMYGDALA


Surprised Veronica Mars hasn't come up yet. I'd give it second place on my list. Another one of those shows when you hear the premise (high-school drama, chick who does PI work in her spare time), think it sounds like arse and vow never to watch it.

You catch five minutes for some reason or another and BAM! - you're hooked. Buffy, Angel and even Firefly were also like that for me.

It's so good I'm surprised it's still playing on New Zealand TV.

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 3:39 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


maybe Twin Peaks ( very weird ), murder of Laura Palmer - does it make sense? Well, more than the Average David Lynch film.

B5 ( great sci-fi stroyline ) - The writing is consistently good with excellent characters, plot twists and flashbacks, and story arcs - however Babylon-Five starts off slow but develops into a great show

or
the ...Outer-Limits ( spooky twlight zone type series )OuterLimits is an anthology science fiction show in which each episode is a self-contained story with a plot twist, it originally ran in the 60s on a U.S. broadcast network

honourable mention for the original Trek and Flash Gordon


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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 3:52 PM

LIMINALOSITY


Monty Python.
It makes me laugh no matter how many times I've seen it, and those boys singlehandedly changed so much of popular culture...
Photoshop! Imagined by Terry Gilliam, funded by the N'tnl Enquirer.

I have heard the siren call of Dark Angel, from every corner of this site, so I went and bought season 1 today. *rubs hands with glee*

Shiny Trees! Yavanna made Shiny Trees!

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 4:06 PM

SHINYCRYSTAL


1st post (yay)

Firefly is definitely my first favorite, but it's hard to say what my second fav would be. Of shows that are currently on TV I would probably say Arrested Development. Of shows that are off the air, it'd be a toss-up between Buffy and M*A*S*H (as odd a coupling as that is).

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 4:37 PM

FILLIONFLAN


I'm another Twin Peaks geek...DEFINITELY my fave (after FF, of course)...I pull it out about once a year and lose myself in the craziness and creepiness all over again. Just amazing television.

X-Files Seasons 1-5 would definitely be next. Jumped the shark with Season 6 (IMHO).

Simpsons after that. It's comfort food to pop one of those in...

ZOE: “It’s just, the Captain’s so tense…”
WASH: “Of course he’s tense. He’s awake.”

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 5:22 PM

JOSSISAGOD


If I HAVE to stop at just one, I'd say
1. Firefly, hands down my favorite show EVER!
2. I'd say Buffy, up to the end of season 6

and now to unecessarily continue the list,
3. Dark Angel, really only because I thought Jessica Alba was hot.
4. Futurama, for best animated Sci-fi
5. Angel, because I liked Buffy

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 5:26 PM

VELOXI


Firefly is my all-time favorite TV show. The Rockford Files is #2 for me, followed by Batman: The Animated Series as #3.

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 5:38 PM

VISITINGMYINTENTIONS


Firefly is far and above the best show out there, but second?

Hmmm...let me shock you all by saying Buffy. Monty Python, Ultra-Violet, and Rocky & Bullwinkle all deserve praise, but Buffy is longer running and more coherent, thus better able to make a case for my affections.

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 5:57 PM

SERENYTY


OK, Number one is Firefly.

Number two is fantastic show, also cancelled way too early. I'm talking about Joan of Arcadia. There were deep meanings in all the shows, and it was so different. Got cancelled, and replaced with Ghost Whisperer. Gah!

~A message from Serenyty~

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 6:03 PM

CANTTAKESKY


Firefly is perfection.

"Yes, Prime Minister" is near perfection.

Can't Take My Gorram Sky

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Tuesday, November 1, 2005 6:27 PM

MOHRSTOUTBEARD


Freaks & Geeks and Spaced are tied for second place on my list. After that it's Sports Night.

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Wednesday, November 2, 2005 8:24 AM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by liminalosity:
I have heard the siren call of Dark Angel, from every corner of this site, so I went and bought season 1 today. *rubs hands with glee*


Ooooo, now you've done it! You'll like it, I'm sure, but you'll be doomed to buy season 2, and let me warn ya, it changes gears real sudden-like for the second season. Not all together in a bad way, they just move from little intimate stories to include bigger and more science-fictiony elements.
Keep us posted on how you like it.

Gotta blaze.

Transgenic Chrisisall

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Wednesday, November 2, 2005 8:43 AM

HAZE


Spaced, I really don’t think I need to explain why.

Who do you suppose is in there?

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Wednesday, November 2, 2005 9:39 PM

LIMINALOSITY


Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Keep us posted on how you like it.
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says so on a t-shirt.



Shiny Trees! Yavanna made Shiny Trees!

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Wednesday, November 2, 2005 11:12 PM

ZOOT


Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:

Otherwise It'll have to be Northern Exposure

I used to joke that if it didn't have martial arts, OR it wasn't set in space, I wouldn't like it. Maybe Joss heard me....

Northern Exposure is a fine 2nd choice, Somnambulist, we own the first season on dvd. Similar love poured into the writing of the characters. You is definitly eclectic, all right.

Alaskan Chrisisall






Hi Big "C"

Yeah Northern Exposure used to tug the ol' heart strings alright... I loved that show. Used to fantasize about being snowbound in a log cabin with 'my' Maggie O'connel...

Ok Chrisisall pop quiz:
Your Favourite character?



The
Somnambulist



www.cirqus.com


Omigosh - am just watching NE series 2 on DVD - had to buy from the US Region 1.

Got to say Holling Vincoeur is my fav character by far!!!

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Wednesday, November 2, 2005 11:53 PM

THESOMNAMBULIST


Quote:

Originally posted by Zoot:
Got to say Holling Vincoeur is my fav character by far!!!



Hey Zoot

Holling was always my favourite character too :) As the show goes on his back story is real genius!!!

Keep me informed of your progress - I'd love to chat about Northern Exposure.

The
Somnambulist

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Thursday, November 3, 2005 12:05 AM

ZOOT


Aggghhh! So many double posts its scary!!!

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Thursday, November 3, 2005 12:06 AM

ZOOT


And again!!! …


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Okay, I'm lost, I'm angry, and I'm
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