HELP! I'm gettin' pinched by Zazzle! by TenthCrewMember

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HELP! I'm gettin' pinched by Zazzle!

POSTED BY: TENTHCREWMEMBER
UPDATED: Friday, July 8, 2005 17:38
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Wednesday, July 06, 2005 5:17 AM

God was wrong. - Mr. Bright, DRIVE

Okay, well a little overdramatic I am, as I am not sure if they've pulled my stuff or what, but when I logged into my account today, EVERYTHING I HAVE DESIGNED OVER THE LAST YEAR WAS GONE!

Perhaps if enough people send "Please restore the TenthCrewMember Collection!" emails to support@zazzle.com it might get their attention, otherwise I am gonna have to go strictly with Cafe' Press and it's gonna take alot of time to get all the designs transferred over (a process I've already started, and it is a task, for sure!)

Any help would be appreciated! Thanks, Browncoats!

Sigh...it never goes smooth...

TCM

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Avail yourself of my trade! I have original (meaning: designed by me!) T-shirts, posters, mugs and more at http://www.zazzle.com/contributors/home/default.asp?cid=23847914695881
5760 (only if it gets restored) AND http://www.cafepress.com/10thcrew ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In or near Ohio? Join us! http://p097.ezboard.com/bohiofireflyfans http://groups.yahoo.com/group/firefly-ohio

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Wednesday, July 06, 2005 5:25 AM

SOULOFSERENITY

The Man They Call Soul...

WTF?!?!? All my stuff is gone too!!

Oh, wait. I never had a Zazzle account.

Nevermind.

I will e-mail them for yours, though.

______________________

Soul, Security Chief of the Sereni-Tree

Mantichorus: "So is there a reason they call you 'Soul'?" Soul (after a long pause): "Yeah. Because I have one."

http://havenofsouls.blogspot.com/

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Wednesday, July 06, 2005 5:25 AM

FRAY101

Surely they'd have given you a warning first if they thought you should remove any of your images? That's what CafePress do.

Hope you get it sorted :crap:

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Visit the Browncoats' Photo 'Verse at http://disneypix.tripod.com/photoverse

Over 100 Serenity screencaps now available at www.destinything.com.

www.cafepress.com/fireflyclass

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Wednesday, July 06, 2005 5:53 AM

TENTHCREWMEMBER

God was wrong. - Mr. Bright, DRIVE

You would think, but I know Gojiro once had all his stuff pulled and not so little as a kick in the crotch to warn him, so who knows?

Cilantro! TCM

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Avail yourself of my trade! I have original (meaning: designed by me!) T-shirts, posters, mugs and more at http://www.zazzle.com/contributors/home/default.asp?cid=23847914695881
5760 AND http://www.cafepress.com/10thcrew ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In or near Ohio? Join us! http://p097.ezboard.com/bohiofireflyfans http://groups.yahoo.com/group/firefly-ohio

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Wednesday, July 06, 2005 6:25 AM

ZOOT

Quite glad I already bought half your T-shirts ...

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Okay, I'm lost, I'm angry, and I'm armed.

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Wednesday, July 06, 2005 7:54 AM

FORRESTWOLF

Done - sent my email! Why do they THINK you do this stuff? If it weren't for your sorts of places on the Net, I'm not so sure we'd HAVE a BDM.

Good luck.

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Wednesday, July 06, 2005 9:34 AM

ANFA

I just sent my email - here's to a collective effort to get you back online!

" We're just too pretty for God to let us die."

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Wednesday, July 06, 2005 9:42 AM

CALLMESERENITY

I also sent an email.

Any idea of why this happened yet? Do you break some tiny, hard to find rule or something?

Hmm, well, let's hope we can complain loud enough to get you back in business!

"Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us." ~Jerry Garcia

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Wednesday, July 06, 2005 3:35 PM

ANFA

Hey, TCM, this is what I just got from Zazzle:

Quote:
Thank you for your email to Zazzle.com.

My suspicion is that Tenthcrewmember's products were removed from the public galleries at Zazzle because they contained copyright-protected images from the television show Firefly and the movie Serenity.

Zazzle believes strongly in the strict protection of an artist's intellectual property rights in his or her artistic work, and takes instances of infringement of these rights on the Zazzle website very seriously.

While it is certainly unfortunate that Tenthcrewmember's products are no longer available for purchase at Zazzle, we hope you will understand the necessity of our compliance with United States copyright and trademark laws. As a general guideline, Zazzle will not allow products with a copyrighted title, name, or image.

We here at Zazzle are working hard every day to secure the right to produce more and more of the world's digital content customized and on demand. We could use your help in encouraging Joss Whedon himself to add official Serenity and Firefly content to Zazzle!

We look forward to creating high quality products for you very soon.

Best Regards, Mike Karns Zazzle.com, Inc.

Sounds like corporation with hands of blue to me . . . I'd say stick with your cafe' press store, bud. We'll keep buyin'.

" We're just too pretty for God to let us die."

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Wednesday, July 06, 2005 4:15 PM

STILLSHINY

Sorry to hear it TCM. I just got an e-amil today telling me my shop would be shut down in 48 hours. This so sucks. I started a thread over here.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=11186

Check out my shop! Firefly & LOST products. http://www.zazzle.com/contributors/products/gallery/browse_results.asp
?cid=238187680745956238

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the road less traveled by and they CANCELLED MY FRIKKIN' SHOW. I totally shoulda took the road that had all those people on it. Damn." --Joss

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Wednesday, July 06, 2005 4:38 PM

SHINYMOM

Sent an email. Gorramit, I wanted to get a couple of new ones for the San Diego Comic-Con. Hope this gets straightened out. I've had lots of fun just window shopping, so to speak, not to mention wearing the shirts. I'll go look at CafePress now.

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Wednesday, July 06, 2005 5:16 PM

TENTHCREWMEMBER

God was wrong. - Mr. Bright, DRIVE

To ALL,

Thanks for your support. And yes, I JUST recieved the exact same FORM LETTER from Zazzle. I've told them I will no longer be doing business with them and that I am recommending no Browncoat do any business with them of any kind.

I WILL be putting all of my designs up on Cafe' Press as quickly as I can. If anyone has a special request for something they planned on buying on Zazzle, email me, and I will put them up, first come first posted, so you can have them as soon as possible. I will even email you when they are up.

to contact me: tenthcrewmember@gmail.com

Again, I thank all of you for being there to have my back, but alas, the arrogant khangs don't reason well, so I am taking my business elsewhere.

I just hope they pay me what they owe me, so I can reinvest it into what I am doing on Cafe' Press.

Still Flyin'! TCM

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Avail yourself of my trade! I have original (meaning: designed by me!) T-shirts, posters, mugs and more at http://www.cafepress.com/10thcrew ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In or near Ohio? Join us! http://p097.ezboard.com/bohiofireflyfans http://groups.yahoo.com/group/firefly-ohio

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Wednesday, July 06, 2005 6:38 PM

RANGRBOB

I wonder if Universal or F*x has anything to do with this. Maybe with the popularity of the screeings they now think that there is a merchendising posibility with this franchise now. Paramount did alot of the same things with Star Trek fans after it became real big. They shut down the fan stuff because they decided they could make money off of the fan base and didn't want the competition. At least thats how I remember it.

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Wednesday, July 06, 2005 9:46 PM

FRAY101

Similar problems posted over at the UB:

http://browncoats.serenitymovie.com/serenity/index.html?fuseaction=for
um.viewtopic&p=260815#260815

But at least Michellehz got a warning first.

Wonder how long it will be before CafePress cut down too?

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Visit the Browncoats' Photo 'Verse at http://disneypix.tripod.com/photoverse

Over 100 Serenity screencaps now available at www.destinything.com.

www.cafepress.com/fireflyclass

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Thursday, July 07, 2005 12:14 AM

JAINA

i dont think it will be long now. a lotta people hae started setting up shops there, me included. *sigh*

- http://angel-btvs.co.uk - Firefly meets Angel meets Buffy the Vampire Slayer - http://jewel-staite.net - All things Jewel! - http://cafepress.com/dtdfirefly & http://cafepress.com/dtdfirefly2- Firefly & Serenity slogans, wear them with pride! - http://cafepress.com/cantstopsignal - Can't Stop the Signal T-shirts and more!

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Thursday, July 07, 2005 2:22 AM

STILLSHINY

Here is a copy of my response to Zazzle.

This is a very sad turn of events. I must say I am very disappointed. In the whole time I have had this shop I have NEVER used copywritten artwork or images. Yes, I have referenced characters & quoted Joss Whedon. Who I will add would be in absolute favor of this shop & others like it. Firefly & Serenity are a TV show & a Movie that could not have happened without one thing...FANS. The reason we have been able to succesfully run our shops is because noone ever heard of Firefly except the true FANS. And because of the FANS it has become what it is. This was never an attempt to make cash off of Joss Whedon's ideas, this has always been a means to spread the word about Firefly and to celebrate the art that is Joss Whedon. It is only now that the fan base has grown to the point that a major motion picture is going to be released. And now someone, who would not have movie without us and our little shops, is going to slap us in the face, so that their CORPORATION can produce Firefly & Serenity products. To be honest I think Joss Whedon himself would be very disappointed with the way his fans are being treated. Our goal has always been to make Firefly & Serenity products available to the fans, we made them for ourslelves. Please, it's not like we went out & decided to take a bunch of Star Wars pics & make shirts. We chose to use inspiration from a show nobody heard of & nobody cared about & make products for us. Especially because CORPORATIONS did not want to. We tried appealing to the CORPORATE structure to have shirts & posters & figures done, and noone would. We got responses back like, "Firefly is simply not a well established show for us to consider liscensing products at this time" So we were left to make our own, our own figures, our own posters, and yes our own T-Shirts. I made Firefly T-shirts because I wanted one, and I didn't have the resources & technology to do so. Upon discovering your service we have had a great relationship. We the FANS provide you with fan based ideas & designs & we get our shirts. But now Firefly has grown, made our voices heard, and now people are listening. And suddenly these CORPORATIONS are going to take the ART & LOVE of Firefly & Serenity and turn it into one thing CASH & COMMERCIAL. How sad to say they would have no product without us. I do not feel this is fair. I am very upset. I am even certain that the basis of this is not from Zazzle. I do believe someone else is forcing this decision to you. I sincerely hope that perhaps we could continue to do business, if perhaps we could remove a few products, those that are deemed in violation, though I repeat I have never use images or artwork from the show. I really wish you didn't have to do this. I look forward to your response.

Find a crew, Find a job, Keep flying... -Rob aka (Still Shiny)

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the road less traveled by and they CANCELLED MY FRIKKIN' SHOW. I totally shoulda took the road that had all those people on it. Damn." --Joss

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Friday, July 08, 2005 5:38 PM

BLINKER

Quote:
Originally posted by Anfa: We'll keep buyin'.

"That's not much."

"It's enough."

_________ Sliders: Gate Haven - http://slidersweb.net/blinker

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