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Petition to fix the upcoming Serenity Figures

POSTED BY: BIGREDBUTTON
UPDATED: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 15:59
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Thursday, May 12, 2005 1:38 AM

BIGREDBUTTON


http://www.petitiononline.com/Serefigs/petition.html

Simply asking Diamond Select Toys to fix those horrible head sculpts.


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Thursday, May 12, 2005 2:33 AM

SGTGUMP


There are now 5 signatures.

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Thursday, May 12, 2005 3:00 AM

INEVITABLEBETRAYAL


Six.

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Thursday, May 12, 2005 3:34 AM

DAIKATH


Weird, it said I was the sixth one.

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Thursday, May 12, 2005 4:42 AM

RABIT


Well, I was 11, according to the results page.

Rabit

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Thursday, May 12, 2005 5:57 AM

PLACIDITY


Quote:

Originally posted by Rabit:
Well, I was 11, according to the results page.

Rabit



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Thursday, May 12, 2005 6:52 AM

BRITCHICK


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Thursday, May 12, 2005 7:41 AM

SPIKEANDJEZEBEL


Honestly - not to offend anyone - but shouldn't we all just be incredibly grateful that there is a movie, comics, books, and toys coming out based on Firefly/Serenity? If we start complaining to the companies putting this stuff out before it's even released, doesn't that just make us look thankless and petty?

"I like smackin' 'em!" - Jayne Cobb

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Thursday, May 12, 2005 7:46 AM

MANWITHPEZ

Important people don't do field work.


To quote my daughter who forms a big W with her fingers..."What-EVER!"

If by the fix you mention in the title of the post, you mean fixing these figures so that they can't reproduce and create even uglier figures, I'm in!

Kaylee: "What's so damn important about being proper? It don't mean nothing out here in the black."
Simon: "It means more out here. It's all I have..."

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Thursday, May 12, 2005 8:06 AM

ATOMICJUMBO


21st .....

'I'll be in my bunk'

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Thursday, May 12, 2005 9:08 AM

GUNRUNNER

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Thursday, May 12, 2005 9:17 AM

SHINY


Quote:

Originally posted by BigRedButton:
http://www.petitiononline.com/Serefigs/petition.html

Simply asking Diamond Select Toys to fix those horrible head sculpts.




I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that those were unfinished prototypes...doubt they would sell much in their present form.

Jayne, your mouth is talkin. Might want to look into that.

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Thursday, May 12, 2005 10:07 AM

SNEAKER98


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Thursday, May 12, 2005 11:37 AM

SIKKUKUT


I remember the head sculpts were lousy, but can somebody link them so I can feel absolutely vindicated in signing the petition?

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Thursday, May 12, 2005 11:43 AM

JCKNIFE


I've never seen them--how bad are they? I'll hold off signing until I see them...

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Thursday, May 12, 2005 11:47 AM

BIGREDBUTTON

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Thursday, May 12, 2005 12:27 PM

SERENITYRISING


Hi everybody --

I've been a site member for awhile, just started getting involved in the forums.

Anyway, I looked at those pictures and the action figures are indeed quite ugly -- so ugly that it's kinda hilarious... until you wonder how many people would actually buy "action figures" of such idiotic-looking guys. Whatever happened to Mal's chin? Count me in.

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Thursday, May 12, 2005 12:35 PM

JCKNIFE


Well, the one Jayne is...cross-eyed! Otherwise I don't think they're THAT bad.

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Thursday, May 12, 2005 12:49 PM

BIGREDBUTTON


Sure, they're not THAT ugly, I suppose. But the technology and skill exists to make figures that look EXACTLY like the actors.

And the better the figures look, the better the chances are that people will buy them. And the more people that buy them, the better the chance that the NEXT wave of Firefly figures will have Book or River or Kaylee or Wash, etc... and maybe, if we're lucky, we can get a whole crew on our bookshelves.

And I'd like that very much.

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Thursday, May 12, 2005 12:53 PM

GREENFAERIE


I've signed it.

Have you made this post on the OB yet? I don't visit there as often as here, but you have the potential for a lot more sigs if you did.


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Thursday, May 12, 2005 1:03 PM

BIGREDBUTTON


OB?

I posted it on Raving Toy Maniac and got very little interest.

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Thursday, May 12, 2005 2:08 PM

RIVERNOT


Took a look and actually laughed out loud. They look like they're deer caught in headlinghts! I'm in.

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Thursday, May 12, 2005 3:25 PM

CARNYASADA


Geez, if you're going to ask them to fix the heads, ask them to make Mal's pants tighter while they're at it.

Actually, to me it appears both figures use the same head -- one just has a mustache painted on. These could well be prototypes that will be changed later.

Carny Asada

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Thursday, May 12, 2005 3:44 PM

CSSTROWBRIDGE


Is it just me ... or do they kind of look like Joss?

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Thursday, May 12, 2005 3:56 PM

LEELU777


number 55. wow same age as my mother

men are in lust women are in passion

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Thursday, May 12, 2005 3:57 PM

LEELU777


and LOL

men are in lust women are in passion

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Thursday, May 12, 2005 4:05 PM

TMURRIE


Numero 56.

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Thursday, May 12, 2005 6:05 PM

LORA


Any idea why they are offering two that seem to represent Jayne?

"Is there any way I'm gonna get out of this with honor and dignity?"

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Thursday, May 12, 2005 6:32 PM

MYSTICON


Quote:

Originally posted by Lora:
Any idea why they are offering two that seem to represent Jayne?



Well, they are doing two of Mal as well.. just industry exclusives

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Thursday, May 12, 2005 6:42 PM

CABRIDGES


63.

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Thursday, May 12, 2005 7:07 PM

CAPTBAGGYTROUSERS


Quote:

Originally posted by Shiny:

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that those were unfinished prototypes...doubt they would sell much in their present form.




That's the first thing I thought when I saw them. International Toyfair, where they show these to potential buyers to get them into stores, was in February, and these look like they're not-quite-complete to me (note the lack of articulation on anything but the arms).

I'm a sculptor so I have a lot of sympathy for the people who make toys. These look rushed to me and I'll be- and I hope- they don't reflect the final toys.

And yes, Jayne totally looks like Joss in one of those pictures.

History repeats the old conceits

http://topshelftvshow.com
Updated! Improved! Shiny!

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Thursday, May 12, 2005 7:20 PM

ACEHUNTER


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Friday, May 13, 2005 3:03 AM

CALLMEATH


When I clicked on this thread today, the "times read" was 666. And it's Friday the 13th! *makes spooky noises"

#71

"Invader's blood marches through my veins like giant radioactive rubber pants. The pants command me! Do not ignore my veins!"

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Friday, May 13, 2005 6:09 AM

QUICKBEAM


Quote:

Originally posted by BigRedButton:
http://www.petitiononline.com/Serefigs/petition.html

Simply asking Diamond Select Toys to fix those horrible head sculpts.




In other words, "Hi! I know nothing about the toy industry or how toys get made!"
What you saw are prototypes. When original sculpts are made for toy production the sculptor also has to factor in for shrinkage in production (since hot plastic shrinks when it cools) so often proto sculpts might look a bit odd but the finished production toy looks great.
The studio that did these sculpts has a TON of experience and their portaits are some of the best in the toy industry. They know what they are doing so don't ry to take credit when the toys come out and they look better than the prototype pictures they showed.

QB

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Friday, May 13, 2005 9:19 AM

ACEHUNTER


That doesn't guarantee that the final product will look right - I can point to at least 6 MCFarlane toys products that came out much worse than the prototypes, barely resembling what they purported to portray. Fortunately, their more recent products have greatly improved in quality, IMO.

At least with this petition, the manufacturer will know that there are people who care about the quality (and are presumably willing to pay more for higher quality). If you speak up, and it's unnecessary, then no harm is done (presuming you remain civil) - if you stay silent, you deserve what you get.

Respectfully,
-Matt P.

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Friday, May 13, 2005 9:42 AM

RED1332


I've been lurking for a while now, just registered the other day, so pardon for this being my VERY FIRST post...

But those things look like were built out of reject parts from the He-Man figure pile! You can only tell it's Mal because of the coat!

This isn't the first time they've done a horrible rendering on a real person...but this time I actually give a damn.

"Better a cruel truth than a comfortable delusion." ~Edward Abbey

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Friday, May 13, 2005 9:43 AM

INARALOVER


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Friday, May 13, 2005 10:16 AM

7SERENITY


Number 92. Don't I feel special.

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Friday, May 13, 2005 6:03 PM

BIGREDBUTTON


Thanks for all the support. We're up over 100 signatures.

I got this from Diamond today:

Hey Greg,

At Diamond Select Toys, we are fully committed to delivering amazing products with the best possible likenesses. The "Serenity" figures currently seen online and in print catalogues represent the very beginning of our production process. The journey from hand-painted resin prototypes to mass-produced plastic action figures is a long one with a great number of changes made before finally reaching consumers. When working with a major motion picture release, the production timetable is set in stone and cannot be altered. This means that pictures of prototypes, catalogue listings, press releases, factory quotes, etc have to be completed with no time left for round after round of sculpt and paint revisions. Those revisions will still occur, but will be completed during the production phase of development rather than the concept phase. Once updated samples are available, we will bring you the latest images and news.

Matt Peck
Diamond Select Toys

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Saturday, May 14, 2005 2:52 PM

TETHYS


I like the statement, but....



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Saturday, May 14, 2005 6:31 PM

UNDERTHEDARK


Quote:

Originally posted by BigRedButton:
There are pretty good pictures in this article:

http://www.action-figure.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=art
icle&sid=14888&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0




WOW. Well, I dunno about the Captain, but that middle pic of Jayne sure explains why he spends so much time in his bunk! That gun'll give Vera a run for her money...

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Sunday, May 15, 2005 6:13 AM

MER


To have it fixed or not, I'm still buying them! Lol. I mean, if these figs don't do well, they'll never make more, mostly better ones like Buffy/Angel. Let the petition stay. At least then they'll know that we know it kinda looks bad.

Also, I'm just content on getting the Serenity Comic in July. I REALLY didn't think it would exculate past Trading cards to an RPG game AND figurines. Now if they have posters, I'll be in heaven *__*

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Sunday, May 15, 2005 7:30 AM

CAPTBAGGYTROUSERS


More than figures, I want a toy- or better yet, model kit- of Serenity.

History repeats the old conceits

http://topshelftvshow.com
Updated! Improved! Shiny!

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Sunday, May 15, 2005 10:52 AM

BLINKER


Quote:

Originally posted by CaptBaggytrousers:
More than figures, I want a toy- or better yet, model kit- of Serenity.





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Sunday, May 15, 2005 12:24 PM

SAFEAT2ND


Quote:

Originally posted by CaptBaggytrousers:
More than figures, I want a toy- or better yet, model kit- of Serenity.



I agree. I had posted on another thread here (can't find it now) that I'd like to see 3 3/4" figures and an accompanying ship playset (for display purposes of course). But in today's market of over detailed, over articutalted "action" figures, I don't see that happening soo.... in lieu of that, I'd like to see a Micromachine Firefly along the lines of the Star Wars Action Fleet series.

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Sunday, May 15, 2005 3:21 PM

KRYTEN3


He he. Jayne looks more like Joss than like Adam.

Oh and ... 133

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Tuesday, May 17, 2005 11:50 PM

WINTERFELL


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Tuesday, May 17, 2005 11:59 PM

HARDY



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Wednesday, May 18, 2005 4:22 AM

CHEWIE


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Wednesday, May 25, 2005 3:59 PM

SAFEAT2ND


CaptBaggytrousers, I sent an email to Hasbro that you might be interested in:

Dear Safe@2nd,

Thank you for contacting us regarding the Micro Machines Action Fleet Line.
We appreciate your interest in our products.

Presently we have no plans in the near future of releasing any new Micro Machines.
I shall gladly share your interest with the appropriate department to share your comments for future consideration.

Thank you,

Patty Moye
Hasbro Canada Corp.
pmoye@hasbrocan.com
Customer (Safe@2nd) 05/16/2005 09:31 AM
Hi, I was wondering, like many others, if you plan to resurrect the Micro Machine Action Fleet line for any of the new space movies specifically the new Serenity movie. This movie has a HUGE fan following that would eagerly snap up anything to do with the movie or preceeding series, Firefly created by Joss Whedon of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel fame. See the following website for info www.fireflyfans.net. And here http://browncoats.serenitymovie.com/serenity/index.html?fuseaction=too
ls.cantstopthesignal
.
Thank-you for your time,
Safe@2nd.

You know what they say, "squeaky wheel gets the grease". Here's where if enough interested people email, it may change their minds and may see a miniture Serenity complete with mini people perfect size for the top a CPU.....



'nuthin' I hate more n' a Trekie/Warsie pi**in' contest.

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