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Fantastic Speech

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UPDATED: Friday, August 6, 2004 14:54
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Thursday, July 29, 2004 8:11 PM

Kerry's speech, energy and ideas were the strongest thing to come out of a Democratic convention in all the years I've been voting.

Watch the speech if you haven't yet!

President Kerry.

'nuff said!

mattro

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Thursday, July 29, 2004 9:31 PM

RUXTON

I agree. I've been Republican most of my life, but can't stand the current administration. Voted for someone else in 2000. Didn't think Kerry was the solution, but he may be a good step in the right direction. I caught Kerry's acceptance speech tonight on PBS. Not only did he acquit himself well; Lo! He could pronounce all the words!

........Ruxton

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Thursday, July 29, 2004 11:05 PM

SGTGUMP

I just read his speach on the net. He made mention of not having to have family members pitch in to buy body armor for soldiers. Didn't he vote against spending money on more body armor for soldiers?

Bush vs. Kerry: whoever wins, we lose.

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Friday, July 30, 2004 4:21 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

At least Kerry won't call dissenters "traitors" and alienate us from the rest of the world and base war on a lie and try to win it on the cheap (while lining his buddy's pockets with billions of dollars of no-bid contracts).

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Friday, July 30, 2004 5:47 AM

MILORADELL

Quote:
sgtgump wrote:
Thursday, July 29, 2004 23:05
I just read his speach on the net. He made mention of not having to have family members pitch in to buy body armor for soldiers. Didn't he vote against spending money on more body armor for soldiers?

Well, let's be careful here. There is never just ONE item on any bill - something very important to remember. If you want a blow-by-blow account of this issue, try this:

http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=155

Politics sure are confusing...

****
“The greatest price of refusing to participate in politics is being governed by your inferiors.”
Plato, The Republic

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Friday, July 30, 2004 6:06 AM

FORD

I watched the whole speech at 3:00 AM in England. The BBC news presenters were saying how Kerry wasn’t renowned for his speeches, always wearing a stern face without a flicker of a smile, but he disproved both theories.

Kerry: “America can do better, help is on the way”

Let us hope John Kerry lives up to his energy and ideas if he manages to become president. Kerry was talking about building bridges between the US and its former alliances, something Bush can’t even comprehend these days

Jayne: "I got post?"
Book: "Might we all want to step back a few paces before he opens that?"
Jayne: "Ha ha. It's from my mother."

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Friday, July 30, 2004 7:26 AM

HERO

Speaking as a conservative and Republican voice I say this. The speech was good. He started silly, with that whole 'reporting for duty' bit. Then he stumbled in his usual fashion, but five minutes in he hit stride and, for the most part, gave the best speech I've seen him give.

I take issue with a number of things he said, factually on some and politically on most, but I wont deny the strength of his message or the skill at its presentation. Too bad the discourse can't remain at this level.

As of now I'm still undecided but leaning Republican (not that I'd vote Democratic, its either vote Bush or abstain like I did in '96 when I was swayed away from Dole). Kerry did little to sway me away from Bush. I think Bush has handled the fallout of Clinton's economic bungling from the last two years of his Presidency, he is successfully fighting a war with a military that was drastically slashed by Clinton's peace dividend, and has many promising plans in the works. My biggest Republican failing is a complete lack of a health care plan.

Kerry, on the other hand, has been running for President since he volunteered for Vietnam. He promises a return to 20th Century thinking, something I sincerely doubt we need for this new century's challenges. All in all he's heads above ALGORE in terms of ability, but no Clinton and certainly no Kennedy.

So lets all sit back, relax and give Bush and the Republicans an honost listen.

H

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Friday, July 30, 2004 3:11 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

Quote:
I think Bush has handled the fallout of Clinton's economic bungling from the last two years of his Presidency, he is successfully fighting a war with a military that was drastically slashed by Clinton's peace dividend, and has many promising plans in the works.

We must live in parallel universes.

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Friday, July 30, 2004 3:37 PM

SOUPCATCHER

I won't comment on the content of the speech itself except to say that I wasn't disappointed (how's that for an endorsement?

). I did notice, however, that whenever he was interruped by cheering he didn't wait for the noise to subside but instead rode over the end of the cheers and continued on with his speech. I thought it made him come off as a less styled speaker than some of our previous presidents (Clinton and Reagan come to mind right off the top of my head). But I guess I prefer more substance than style anyway - which is probably why I usually read transcripts rather than watch the video - so I kind of liked what he did.

I shaved off my beard for you, devil woman!

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Friday, July 30, 2004 3:46 PM

SHINY

Kerry's was good, but Obama's ROCKED!!!

Jayne, your mouth is talkin. Might want to look into that.

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Friday, July 30, 2004 7:39 PM

ELAKEN

I love the fact that although Clinton had 8 years of economic strength, left us with a surplus and then Bush comes in and our country now has economic difficulties with no improvement in four years and yet somehow some people seem to think it is no Bush's fault but due to Clinton. (really badly worded sentence, sorry!) Apparently it just took 8 years to manifest itself and poor Bush is stuck with the cleanup. Of course I guess we can always say that it is actually fallout from Bush Sr. " economic bungling" that the current "president" is dealing with. Republicans scare me.

Suicide is the sincerest form of self-critiscm - Heinlein

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Friday, July 30, 2004 7:56 PM

RANGRBOB

I was a bit disapointed with him cutting over the cheering as well. Later I found out that he did that so his speach would be finished in time for the 11pm local news programs.

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Saturday, July 31, 2004 8:21 AM

FORRESTWOLF

Obama's the man. That boy will be the first black President one day.

- Forrestwolf

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Saturday, July 31, 2004 7:14 PM

DOUBLETHINK84

I dont like bush, and i dont like Kerry.

But i'm not scared of Kerry. I'm terrified of Bush.

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Tuesday, August 3, 2004 9:56 AM

KNIBBLET

Quote:
Originally posted by Ford:
... Kerry was talking about building bridges between the US and its former alliances, something Bush can’t even comprehend these days

[bold]You're talking about George Dubya. A man so basically stupid he can't be trusted to cross the street without someone holding his hand. How the hell is he supposed to build a bridge? Would you trust him with that many legos? He'd take an eye out or something.[/bold]

"Just keep walkin, preacher man."

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Tuesday, August 3, 2004 10:08 AM

HASLINGER

I don't care for either one of them. I am voting Liberterian. They won't win, but it justifies my complaints over the next four years.

GW doesn't really appeal to me. His finacial logic is somewhat skewed - - insert corporation.

Like GW Kerry doesn't have a clue. Right now his campaign seems to be about bashing bush. What is going to do if he wins? He's to fickle.

someone on this site wrote

whoever wins....we lose.

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Tuesday, August 3, 2004 10:28 AM

SHINY

Quote:
Originally posted by haslinger:

someone on this site wrote

whoever wins....we lose.

Actually, that comes from the new movie "Alien versus Predator": http://www.avp-movie.com/us/html/aboutfilm.html

I never thought to apply it to the presidential election...there's certainly some interesting prospects for AvP movie promotions there, though...

Jayne, your mouth is talkin. Might want to look into that.

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Friday, August 6, 2004 9:35 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

Quote:
Originally posted by Forrestwolf:
Obama's the man. That boy will be the first black President one day.

- Forrestwolf

You might want to reconsider the phrasing??

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Friday, August 6, 2004 9:38 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

Quote:
Originally posted by Knibblet:
[bold]You're talking about George Dubya. A man so basically stupid he can't be trusted to cross the street without someone holding his hand.[/bold]
"Just keep walkin, preacher man."

Do you have a cite for that?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Friday, August 6, 2004 10:36 AM

FORRESTWOLF

Naw. I'm kinda imagining a couple of old...well...geezers :) talking to each other at the Convention, or maybe on their porch..."That boy's gonna be president one day" - that sort of thing. Of course he's a grown man, but he does have a young, vibrant look to him.

Go Obama :)

- Forrestwolf

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Friday, August 6, 2004 12:57 PM

DARKJESTER

Quote:
Forrestwolf wrote:
Friday, August 06, 2004 10:36
Naw. I'm kinda imagining a couple of old...well...geezers :) talking to each other at the Convention, or maybe on their porch..."That boy's gonna be president one day" - that sort of thing. Of course he's a grown man, but he does have a young, vibrant look to him.

Go Obama :)

- Forrestwolf

No Forrestwolf, I think Geezer was pointing out that back many years ago, a black male slave was often addressed as "boy". In my lifetime (i.e. late 60's - early 70's) calling a black man a "boy" was an insult on the same level as using the proverbial "N"-word.

MAL "You only gotta scare him."
JAYNE "Pain is scary..."

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Friday, August 6, 2004 2:21 PM

THUNDAR

Kerry..

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Friday, August 6, 2004 2:54 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

Quote:
Originally posted by DarkJester:
No Forrestwolf, I think Geezer was pointing out that back many years ago, a black male slave was often addressed as "boy". In my lifetime (i.e. late 60's - early 70's) calling a black man a "boy" was an insult on the same level as using the proverbial "N"-word.

MAL "You only gotta scare him."
JAYNE "Pain is scary..."

Got it first time. Still an insult. Walk up to Obama (a fine man IMHO, BTW) and call him "boy", and you'd probably find out how bad.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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