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Sunday, September 19, 2021 10:17 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

Just one more reason not to get married is all that is.

It's time to ditch the bitch, dude.

Your advice is inside out, upside down. Better advice:
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I think you should start to consider leaving this relationship with an irrational man who is making subtle threats and likely putting your children at risk in all kinds of ways—do you really want his kind of thinking influencing them more than it already has?


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, September 19, 2021 10:18 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


That's pretty low, to BOTH of you. Shame.

This is a thread about DREAMTROVE's health and illness, not a thread to be bringing politics and nasty comments.

I'm still worried about him.

I know at one point he kind of mentally derailed (after making a number of unusual claims about his background, such as ... he was a tomato farmer who hailed from wealthy European family. He had been to all the best/worst clinics in Europe IIRC) before he disappeared.

I hope his disappearance is just a mental health vacation, not a permanent one.

If so, he's left a number of internet friends behind.

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Monday, September 20, 2021 1:15 AM

DREAMTROVE



Been out of commission for a bit. was in the hospital, out now, in a recliner in my house. they have me hooked up to a heart monitor. no long getting covid inflammations, but now i have a serious heart problem, idk if that's covid related but probably, also related to that dexamethasone. they put me on metoprolol, i hope i can find a way out of this because i know medical care is the downward spiral

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Monday, September 20, 2021 1:27 AM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
That's pretty low, to BOTH of you. Shame.

This is a thread about DREAMTROVE's health and illness, not a thread to be bringing politics and nasty comments.

I'm still worried about him.

I know at one point he kind of mentally derailed (after making a number of unusual claims about his background, such as ... he was a tomato farmer who hailed from wealthy European family. He had been to all the best/worst clinics in Europe IIRC) before he disappeared.

I hope his disappearance is just a mental health vacation, not a permanent one.

If so, he's left a number of internet friends behind.

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lol no it's fine, and no i didn't lose my mind and make unusual claims, those are pieces of conversation that are unrelated, i posted some things about tomatoes and did not endorse the theory that i had a tomato farm, more of an expanded garden. but it was like your garden rain thread, as for grandfather i don't even know how it came up, but it wasn't a weird obsession, it's just family. there's no wealth or power associated with that because they were jews, and european jews after 1945 didn't own squat. i probably mentioned it in reference to nazis, because they keep coming up. Or maybe pirate news' jews rant, yes, we were one of those jewish families, but it's meaningless now, especially since everyone's dead. just trying not to join them. but not doxing myself, though hard to not, i have a brick and mortar business, and that's hard to hide.

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Monday, September 20, 2021 7:49 AM

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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
That's pretty low, to BOTH of you. Shame.

This is a thread about DREAMTROVE's health and illness, not a thread to be bringing politics and nasty comments.

I'm still worried about him.

I know at one point he kind of mentally derailed (after making a number of unusual claims about his background, such as ... he was a tomato farmer who hailed from wealthy European family. He had been to all the best/worst clinics in Europe IIRC) before he disappeared.

I hope his disappearance is just a mental health vacation, not a permanent one.

If so, he's left a number of internet friends behind.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake




lol no it's fine, and no i didn't lose my mind and make unusual claims, those are pieces of conversation that are unrelated, i posted some things about tomatoes and did not endorse the theory that i had a tomato farm, more of an expanded garden. but it was like your garden rain thread, as for grandfather i don't even know how it came up, but it wasn't a weird obsession, it's just family. there's no wealth or power associated with that because they were jews, and european jews after 1945 didn't own squat. i probably mentioned it in reference to nazis, because they keep coming up. Or maybe pirate news' jews rant, yes, we were one of those jewish families, but it's meaningless now, especially since everyone's dead. just trying not to join them. but not doxing myself, though hard to not, i have a brick and mortar business, and that's hard to hide.

See, Signym, DT is back and as good as ever. You worry too much, Signym.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, September 20, 2021 8:14 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
That's pretty low, to BOTH of you. Shame.



Not low. True.

Scumbag wife insinuating that he's possibly threatening violence when all he could have meant was that he was leaving her.

And the courts will back HER 100%, as they always do. She'll get the house, the car, the kids half his money and a huge portion of his paychecks until the kids graduate, and then he'll have to put in for a huge chunk of their college education he couldn't afford to save for since she blew all his money on bullshit. His back is to the wall even if he thinks he has the upper hand.

That's why you don't sign a government contract with a woman.

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This is a thread about DREAMTROVE's health and illness


No it's not. See below.

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, not a thread to be bringing politics and nasty comments.

I'm still worried about him.

I know at one point he kind of mentally derailed (after making a number of unusual claims about his background, such as ... he was a tomato farmer who hailed from wealthy European family. He had been to all the best/worst clinics in Europe IIRC) before he disappeared.

I hope his disappearance is just a mental health vacation, not a permanent one.

If so, he's left a number of internet friends behind.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake





Just like Covid, I was never worried about DT either.

He's a troll, but a highly imaginative one that is quite entertaining to behold.

I really enjoyed our conversations going on 5 years ago. Then he up and left and came back and pretended none of those ever happened.

I trust his stories about as much as anything the NYT writes. But at least there is intelligence behind it.

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Monday, September 20, 2021 9:24 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Glad to see you posting, DREAMTROVE.

Welcome back.


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Wednesday, September 22, 2021 11:49 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



I've been inconsistently here, but when I'm here I do check in to see of DT is still posting.

I'm glad to see you've been posting recently, DT. Take care of yourself! Post-COVID-19 can be a long haul - well, as they call it, long-COVID. So keep the long term in mind, most especially don't overdo. A short-term binge of effort isn't worth the long-term negatives.

And please post back here now and again, if nothing else to say HI! and let us know how you're getting on.



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Wednesday, September 22, 2021 6:12 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:

Been out of commission for a bit. was in the hospital, out now, in a recliner in my house. they have me hooked up to a heart monitor. no long getting covid inflammations, but now i have a serious heart problem, idk if that's covid related but probably, also related to that dexamethasone. they put me on metoprolol, i hope i can find a way out of this because i know medical care is the downward spiral

Does this mean you were in hospital twice? And escaped a NY hospital without them killing you, twice? Was it the same hospital, or different?
Your lucky stars seemed to be aligned.

I would love to hear updates on how your heart is progressing, as well as other problems.
Do you now think you had only covid, or something esle as well?


I used to have4 myself connected to heart monitor (for work), and was a bit surprised how often my heart skipped beats, the most I saw was 4 beats skipped. Less than 4 skipped beats, never sensed it in a physiological way.


I hope you get better.

After this 3rd time of covid, I had a very hard time getting my appetite back - still don't fully. But i just started forcing myself to eat more foods, bigger quantities, and variety. Remeber to get some yogurt in to kick start all that gut biotics that like4ly suffered. I found Sunkist soda and A&W Cream soda, in the plastic bottles with caps, worked like magic to help me keep food down. And jello with fruit in it.


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Wednesday, September 22, 2021 7:23 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


DT's maladies are about as legit as Second's cowboy business.

Why are you humoring him?

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Friday, September 24, 2021 4:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
DT's maladies are about as legit as Second's cowboy business.

Why are you humoring him?

6ix, there is book about you called The Psychology of Pandemics.

Wondering why society went off-kilter during the pandemic? It was all predicted in this book

By Danny Westneat
Seattle Times columnist

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/mental-health/wondering-why-
society-went-off-kilter-during-the-pandemic-it-was-all-predicted-in-this-book
/

When I wrote last week about how northern Idaho was surging with COVID cases, to the point that hospitals had triggered a plan to ration medical care, I got a slew of correspondence from people there saying: No we aren’t.

“We don’t have any outbreaks here,” one insisted. “I know a few people working in Kootenai Health, the largest hospital in the area, and they are not busy at all. They are actually overstaffed in the ER.”

Wrote another: “I am in Coeur d’Alene and serve hundreds of customers and I’ve heard of nobody that’s been hospitalized, or who has even got COVID. I am disgusted at the inaccuracy of your article.”

Said a third: “More fearmongering by the media about our so-called ‘pandemic.’”

I wrote back to these Idahoans, attaching an alert from Kootenai Health itself, the main hospital in their own town, Coeur d’Alene. It’s entitled “Kootenai Health implements crisis standards of care as COVID-19 cases soar.” It details how the hospital is so jammed it converted its conference room into an overflow field clinic for COVID patients.

One of the Idahoans wrote back, not to say he may have misjudged the situation, but to instead accuse the hospital of now being part of my conspiracy: “My initial thought on reading this is the hospital may be falsely reporting to get more COVID funding. I will dig into it.”

Is this normal? More than a year and a half into our pandemic odyssey, I find this ongoing behavior to be the most baffling part of the story — that there remains a group of citizens, not sure how large, who refuse to acknowledge that a major health event is even happening. Or if it is, that it’s a big deal.

We’re approaching 700,000 dead in the U.S., and yet every day I still get feedback from readers who insist it’s all overblown. Or that it’s no worse than the flu. (I long ago stopped responding to the flu comparison people, but if I did, I would note that it takes 20 years for the flu to kill this many people.)

This past week, the entire state of Idaho has moved to crisis standards of care, in which resources are stretched so thin that patients may be treated based on who has the best chances of survival. Still, that news, which seems alarming enough to me, isn’t necessarily getting through. I’ve noticed that hospitals increasingly are inviting reporters directly into the ICU wards, in a maddening bid to try to convince the public, after all these months, that the pandemic even exists.

But it turns out this denial behavior is not only normal, it was totally foreseeable, according to Steven Taylor, a psychologist at the University of British Columbia in Vancouver, B.C.

Taylor would know because he predicted it. He wrote a remarkable little book back in 2019 called “The Psychology of Pandemics.” Its premise is that pandemics are “not simply events in which some harmful microbe ‘goes viral,’” but rather are mass psychological phenomena about the behaviors, attitudes and emotions of people.

The book came out pre-COVID and yet predicts every trend and trope we’ve been living for 19 months now: the hoarding of supplies like toilet paper at the start; the rapid spread of “unfounded rumors and fake news”; the backlash against masks and vaccines; the rise and acceptance of conspiracy theories; and the division of society into people who “dutifully conform to the advice of health authorities” — sometimes compulsively so — and those who “engage in seemingly self-defeating behaviors such as refusing to get vaccinated.”

He has no crystal ball, he says, it’s just that all of this has happened before. A lot of people believed the Spanish flu pandemic of 1918 was spread by the Germans through Bayer aspirin. It’s all based on basic psychology as to how people react to health emergencies.


The denialists and refuseniks today are engaging in what the psychology field calls “psychological reactance.” It’s “a motivational response to rules, regulations, or attempts at persuasion that are perceived as threatening one’s autonomy and freedom of choice,” the book describes. Think what happens when someone says “Eat your broccoli.”

Following onto that is what psychologists term “motivated reasoning.” That’s when people stick with their story even if the facts obviously are contrary to it, as a form of “comforting delusion,” Taylor says. The book covers “unrealistic optimism bias,” in which people in pandemics are prone to convincing themselves that it can’t or won’t happen to them.

The book also gets into “monitoring versus blunting.” Monitoring is when you dive deeply into the details of a health threat, sometimes obsessively (raise your hand if you’ve checked the COVID case and death counts 10 times in a day). Blunting is avoidance, setting the bad news off to the side or pretending it isn’t happening at all.

“Pandemics bring out all these extremes in behavior,” Taylor told me. “Anxiety, fear, denial, racism, conspiracy theories, the popularity of quack cures, the ‘you’re not the boss of me’ backlash to health directives — these things have all been seen dating back to the medieval plagues.”

Even the screaming at school boards? Surely that can’t be normal. But yes: Taylor notes there was an Anti-Mask League of San Francisco during the Spanish flu pandemic that held protests involving thousands.


This pandemic has probably been worse for behavioral extremes, despite all our modern advancements, Taylor said.

“It’s the first big pandemic in the era of social media, so the disinformation just spreads faster and wider,” he said. “Plus down there you had Donald Trump, who himself engaged in reality denial on a grand scale. I did not account for the possibility of political leadership like that in my book.”

Taylor had the fundamental insight that pandemics are first and foremost experienced socially, more so than they are medically. He wrote the book to try to ready folks for this, for when the next pandemic happened. That turned out to be only about a month after his book was published.

Still, one publisher warned him: “No one’s going to want to read it.”

Are we really this predictable? It seems it was baked into our natures, our essential variety, that we would get owned by any pandemic that came along. And probably will again.

I don’t know if this makes me feel better or worse. But as a monitoring person, not a blunter, at least I feel now like I sort of understand it.

Download the free book by Steven Taylor The Psychology of Pandemics from the mirrors at https://libgen.unblockit.ws/search.php?req=The+Psychology+of+Pandemics

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, September 24, 2021 8:28 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
DT's maladies are about as legit as Second's cowboy business.

Why are you humoring him?

6ix, there is book about you called The Psychology of Pandemics.



Nah.

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Sunday, September 26, 2021 10:55 PM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Does this mean you were in hospital twice? And escaped a NY hospital without them killing you, twice? Was it the same hospital, or different?
Your lucky stars seemed to be aligned.

I would love to hear updates on how your heart is progressing, as well as other problems.
Do you now think you had only covid, or something esle as well?


I used to have4 myself connected to heart monitor (for work), and was a bit surprised how often my heart skipped beats, the most I saw was 4 beats skipped. Less than 4 skipped beats, never sensed it in a physiological way.


I hope you get better.

After this 3rd time of covid, I had a very hard time getting my appetite back - still don't fully. But i just started forcing myself to eat more foods, bigger quantities, and variety. Remeber to get some yogurt in to kick start all that gut biotics that like4ly suffered. I found Sunkist soda and A&W Cream soda, in the plastic bottles with caps, worked like magic to help me keep food down. And jello with fruit in it.





Sorry, haven't been online. spent three days unable to move, I'm semi moving again. I was in the hospital five times. The system has completely fallen apart. They don't even try anymore for the most part, corporate money mills, finally I ended up at a small hospital that was basically a corridor. I'm on beta blockers now.

The multiple time covid thing worries me, like there are really seven bioweapons roaming about. I think I had covid plus a secondary infection, which might have been a second covid, could have been any respiratory illness, and then a massive drug reaction to the dexamethasone. I'm worried about the post covid ace2 deficiency. I read a decent article that suggests ibuprofen upregulates ace2, considering it, but I have a horrible reaction to all drugs atm, they send my pulse through the roof. my first attempt at ibuprofen send it to 140. I might keep trying though, it looks solid. Also humorous possibility that advil cures the effects of a bioweapon 20 years in the making. I just kind of want that to be true

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ctm2.371



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Sunday, September 26, 2021 11:52 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Ibuprofen causes kidneys to retain sodium and water, and therefore raises blood pressure. People sometimes have blood pressure crises from ibuprofen, where bp is up in the range of 200+/150+.

I suggest that you treat the disease that you have without creating symptoms that you don't need.






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Monday, September 27, 2021 1:08 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



DT, it sounds like the hospitals have a revolving door.

I pretty much agree with Signy, don't take things that give you a bad reaction.

Yanno you'd THINK since humans have such consistent DNA we'd be like Dewey rats, uniform in our characteristics. But while we share the same basic DNA with each other, we all have our own variations, and then on top of it our own epigenetic fillips. So what might be good in theory for the average DNA seems to not work very well in your particular system. As they say, listen to your body.

Other than that, thanks for coming by!


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Monday, September 27, 2021 7:35 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


So you've gone to the hospital 5 times and they didn't kill you.

That's good news.

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Monday, October 4, 2021 6:45 PM

DREAMTROVE


Hospitals have a revolving door. And they didn't kill me. Some of them tried. one was good. 3 sucked. Anyway, still alive. As of this writing. Had some really close calls.

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Monday, October 4, 2021 6:53 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Hospitals have a revolving door. And they didn't kill me. Some of them tried. one was good. 3 sucked. Anyway, still alive. As of this writing. Had some really close calls.

Glad to hear you survivied them.

Were they 5 different places? And the good one was a clinic type thing?

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Monday, October 4, 2021 9:45 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Hospitals have a revolving door. And they didn't kill me. Some of them tried. one was good. 3 sucked. Anyway, still alive. As of this writing. Had some really close calls.




I'd tell you that nobody is trying to kill you, but I guess it all depends on what you signed.

Kiki and Sigs were just discussing a study the other day where they murdered dozens of people in the name of Science, but it's okay because they signed the reams of legalese that were required before they entered the study.

21% of Americans are functionally illiterate, meaning that outside of being able to read and write their own name, the only thing they might be good for is reading Hop On Pop to their kids at night.

Now ask yourself if you think the people who died in that study were murdered or not.

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Monday, October 4, 2021 9:48 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


P.S. I long for the days where I had to give people shit for complaining about the "unfair" terms that they were stuck under when they had a shit ton more bottles of purified water sent to their house than they'd ever drink when they got that "free" dispenser.

Now, if you're not careful, they'll just kill you because you signed on the dotted line.

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Monday, October 4, 2021 9:51 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Hospitals have a revolving door. And they didn't kill me. Some of them tried. one was good. 3 sucked. Anyway, still alive. As of this writing. Had some really close calls.

Welcome back!

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Saturday, November 20, 2021 5:58 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


The Delta has become the Globally Dominant Variant now spread to over 163 countries

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Wednesday, December 1, 2021 9:52 AM

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New mutant evolved verison of Covid now, that's the latest news they say.

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