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Summary of the 2017-2018 Influenza Season - CDC

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 11:33 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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It's too early to know what's going to ultimately happen with Covid-19, but interesting to look back to recent influenza data. Has our obsession with social media made rational virus concerns cross over into panic and then go viral?

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/season/flu-season-2017-2018.htm

What was the 2017-2018 flu season like?
The 2017-2018 influenza season was a high severity season with high levels of outpatient clinic and emergency department visits for influenza-like illness (ILI), high influenza-related hospitalization rates, and elevated and geographically widespread influenza activity for an extended period. In 2017, CDC began using new methodology to classify seasonal severity and applied the methodology to the 2003-2004 through 2016-2017 seasons. The 2017-18 season was the first season to be classified as a high severity across all age groups.

When did the 2017-2018 flu season peak?
During the 2017-2018 season, influenza-like-illness (ILI) activity began to increase in November, reaching an extended period of high activity during January and February nationally, and remained elevated through the end of March. ILI peaked at 7.5%, the highest percentage since the 2009 flu pandemic, which peaked at 7.7%. Influenza-like illness (ILI) was at or above the national baseline for 19 weeks, making the 2017-2018 season one of the longest in recent years.

For more information, see the MMWR: 2017-18 Influenza Activity Update or visit FluView Interactive.

How many people died from flu during the 2017-2018 season?
While flu deaths in children are reported to CDC, flu deaths in adults are not nationally notifiable. In order to monitor influenza related deaths in all age groups, CDC tracks pneumonia and influenza (P&I)-attributed deaths through the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) Mortality Reporting System. This system tracks the proportion of death certificates processed that list pneumonia or influenza as the underlying or contributing cause of death. This system provides an overall indication of whether flu-associated deaths are elevated, but does not provide an exact number of how many people died from flu.

During the 2017-2018 season, the percentage of deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza (P&I) was at or above the epidemic threshold for 16 consecutive weeks. During the past five seasons, the average number of weeks this indicator was above threshold was 11 (range of 7 to 15 weeks). Nationally, mortality attributed to P&I exceeded 10.0% for four consecutive weeks, peaking at 10.8% during the week ending January 20, 2018.

As it does for the numbers of flu cases, doctor’s visits and hospitalizations, CDC also estimates deaths in the United States using mathematical modeling. CDC estimates that from 2010-2011 to 2013-2014, influenza-associated deaths in the United States ranged from a low of 12,000 (during 2011-2012) to a high of 56,000 (during 2012-2013). Death certificate data and weekly influenza virus surveillance information was used to estimate how many flu-related deaths occurred among people whose underlying cause of death on their death certificate included respiratory or circulatory causes. For more information, see Estimating Seasonal Influenza-Associated Deaths in the United States and CDC’s Disease Burden of Influenza page.


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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 11:49 AM

1KIKI

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Whatever.


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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 12:20 PM

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Whatever.



The CDC = whatever?

You're such a child. "It's my topic! Only I post! No one else knows anything!"

Whatever indeed.




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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 1:32 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


No - YOU'RE such an ignorANUS.

You think your opinion at the top comparing 'flu season' and COIVD-19 - and attributing the reaction to social media (which btw I don't engage in at all) - means something.


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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 3:17 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
No - YOU'RE such an ignorANUS.



So clever! Such dynamic word play certainly signifies some underlying genius! Or... just some bitter old fart.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
You think your opinion at the top comparing 'flu season' and COIVD-19 ...



both of which are viruses... tick.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
and attributing the reaction to social media (which btw I don't engage in at all) - means something.



So you are completely ignorant of social media and yet have a definitive opinion of it? It doesn't get much more ignorant than that, Kiki. Totally in character though.

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 3:25 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
You think your opinion at the top comparing 'flu season' and COIVD-19 ...

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both of which are viruses... tick.
So is rabies. snicker Why don't you compare SARS-COV-2 to rabies? After all "both of which are viruses".
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
and attributing the reaction to social media (which btw I don't engage in at all) - means something.

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So you are completely ignorant of social media and yet have a definitive opinion of it? It doesn't get much more ignorant than that, Kiki. Totally in character though.
"Don't participate" doesn't mean "completely ignorant of". Your constant lying - totally in character though.

BTW - let's unpack your assumptions at the beginning fo your post - shall we?

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020 3:28 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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It's too early to know what's going to ultimately happen with Covid-19, but interesting to look back to recent influenza data.
Why? What's your ahem! reasoning?




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Has our obsession with social media made rational virus concerns cross over into panic and then go viral?
We'll get to this later after I school you about the flu.

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Thursday, March 12, 2020 9:18 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
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both of which are viruses... tick.
So is rabies. snicker Why don't you compare SARS-COV-2 to rabies? After all "both of which are viruses".



You're such a f-wad. Is rabies spread the same way the flu is?

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
"Don't participate" doesn't mean "completely ignorant of". Your constant lying - ...



Where's the lie? Do you know what a lie is? Lying about lying AGAIN? No, I think you are completely ignorant of the global effects social media can have. Maybe you're protecting Trump's victory? "It was a perfect election!"

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
BTW - let's unpack your assumptions at the beginning fo your post - shall we?



Still waiting for more of your stupid.

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Thursday, March 12, 2020 9:20 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
We'll get to this later after I school you about the flu.



I can't wait to see you embarrass yourself some more. Are you going to say they're not the same? Brilliant! We should wash our hands! OMG. Make sure you use the word "anus" so we know how smart you are.

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Friday, March 13, 2020 12:11 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
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It's too early to know what's going to ultimately happen with Covid-19, but interesting to look back to recent influenza data.
Why? What's your ahem! reasoning?

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Has our obsession with social media made rational virus concerns cross over into panic and then go viral?
We'll get to this later after I school you about the flu.



Still still waiting...

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Friday, March 13, 2020 12:12 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-southkorea/south-
korea-reports-more-recoveries-than-coronavirus-cases-for-the-first-time-idUKKBN210051


South Korea reports more recoveries than coronavirus cases for the first time
Hyonhee Shin

SEOUL (Reuters) - South Korea reported more recoveries from the coronavirus than new infections on Friday for the first time since its outbreak emerged in January, as a downward trend in daily cases raised hopes that Asia’s biggest epidemic outside China may be slowing.

The Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (KCDC) recorded 110 new coronavirus cases on Friday compared with 114 a day earlier, taking the national tally to 7,979. The death toll rose by five to 72 as of late Friday.

In contrast, 177 patients were released from hospitals where they had been isolated for treatment, the KCDC said.

This marks the first time that the daily number of recovered people exceeded that of new infections since South Korea’s first patient was confirmed on Jan. 20.

The latest figures are in line with a downward trend in new cases which has raised hopes that the outbreak may be easing in Asia’s fourth-largest economy.

The trend is expected to persist, with more self-quarantined patients being discharged in the coming days, KCDC chief Jeong Eun-kyeong said.

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Friday, March 13, 2020 2:35 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


posted from
Coronavirus Panic Must Stop, Press Needs to Be Held Accountable for Hurting People
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63541&p=2

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Not to you I couldn't - 'cuz you're an angry old fool.

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^See above.
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And I'm still waiting. I'm guessing you are googling "social media" so you can figure out what it is.
See? Not ONE WORD about your own topic! Since you ran away from discussing your previous thread and your OT, let's continue here!

This is what you posted:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
It's too early to know what's going to ultimately happen with Covid-19, but interesting to look back to recent influenza data. Has our obsession with social media made rational virus concerns cross over into panic and then go viral?

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/season/flu-season-2017-2018.htm

What was the 2017-2018 flu season like?
The 2017-2018 influenza season was a high severity season with high levels of outpatient clinic and emergency department visits for influenza-like illness (ILI), high influenza-related hospitalization rates, and elevated and geographically widespread influenza activity for an extended period. In 2017, CDC began using new methodology to classify seasonal severity and applied the methodology to the 2003-2004 through 2016-2017 seasons. The 2017-18 season was the first season to be classified as a high severity across all age groups.

When did the 2017-2018 flu season peak?
During the 2017-2018 season, influenza-like-illness (ILI) activity began to increase in November, reaching an extended period of high activity during January and February nationally, and remained elevated through the end of March. ILI peaked at 7.5%, the highest percentage since the 2009 flu pandemic, which peaked at 7.7%. Influenza-like illness (ILI) was at or above the national baseline for 19 weeks, making the 2017-2018 season one of the longest in recent years.

For more information, see the MMWR: 2017-18 Influenza Activity Update or visit FluView Interactive.

How many people died from flu during the 2017-2018 season?
While flu deaths in children are reported to CDC, flu deaths in adults are not nationally notifiable. In order to monitor influenza related deaths in all age groups, CDC tracks pneumonia and influenza (P&I)-attributed deaths through the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) Mortality Reporting System. This system tracks the proportion of death certificates processed that list pneumonia or influenza as the underlying or contributing cause of death. This system provides an overall indication of whether flu-associated deaths are elevated, but does not provide an exact number of how many people died from flu.

During the 2017-2018 season, the percentage of deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza (P&I) was at or above the epidemic threshold for 16 consecutive weeks. During the past five seasons, the average number of weeks this indicator was above threshold was 11 (range of 7 to 15 weeks). Nationally, mortality attributed to P&I exceeded 10.0% for four consecutive weeks, peaking at 10.8% during the week ending January 20, 2018.

As it does for the numbers of flu cases, doctor’s visits and hospitalizations, CDC also estimates deaths in the United States using mathematical modeling. CDC estimates that from 2010-2011 to 2013-2014, influenza-associated deaths in the United States ranged from a low of 12,000 (during 2011-2012) to a high of 56,000 (during 2012-2013). Death certificate data and weekly influenza virus surveillance information was used to estimate how many flu-related deaths occurred among people whose underlying cause of death on their death certificate included respiratory or circulatory causes. For more information, see Estimating Seasonal Influenza-Associated Deaths in the United States and CDC’s Disease Burden of Influenza page.




So let me highlight this first
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Covid-19, but interesting to look back to recent influenza data.
When asked why you thought to put them together into one sentence, you claimed it was because
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both of which are viruses... tick.
When I pointed out that rabies is also a virus you claimed it was because
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You're such a f-wad. Is rabies spread the same way the flu is?
I'm going to point out that the article YOU linked that we should pay attention to says NOTHING about how the flu is spread.

So, why would YOU post this article in relation to Covid-19? It's YOUR POST after all. Explain why YOU posted it!





http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63543&p=1



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Saturday, March 14, 2020 10:47 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

So let me highlight this first
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Covid-19, but interesting to look back to recent influenza data.
When asked why you thought to put them together into one sentence, you claimed it was because
Quote:

both of which are viruses... tick.
When I pointed out that rabies is also a virus you claimed it was because
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You're such a f-wad. Is rabies spread the same way the flu is?
I'm going to point out that the article YOU linked that we should pay attention to says NOTHING about how the flu is spread.



So? You really don't know how the flu is spread? Do you think rabies is spread the same way? Humans biting other humans maybe?

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
So, why would YOU post this article in relation to Covid-19? It's YOUR POST after all. Explain why YOU posted it!



For the last couple weeks I have had the nagging feeling that most news media were overhyping this virus. It started with the giant, scary micro pictures of the virus blown way up on screen behind every talking head. Really? You need to do that? They were everywhere. And yet, to me the numbers of infected seemed small, the mortality rate seemed relatively low. Just a hunch, though. I wondered how did this rate compare to past Big Bad viruses or even the average flu? So I posted numbers for infection and mortality caused by something we'd all be familiar with, something that happens every year. You have heard of the Flu, right?

I also posted wondering about the age of the deceased because it stood out to me that no one was saying it. Just "elderly and those with current health issues are high risk." That says nothing except that they probably aren't saying for a reason. If this is just very old then the story is less scary, the need to keep tuning in is less compulsive. Jack posted that the average age so far is 80. Which is the same part of the population that is always in danger of viruses. Novo virus hit a few senior care facilities in our city, some in care died, and they went on lock down. So nothing new there.

Plus: The infection curve for China - the hardest hit - has had a down turn. But you don't see stories about "the good news that is China."

I recently posted that for the first time in South Korea (the second hardest hit), the recovery numbers were greater than new infections. But you don't see stories about "the good news that is S Korea."

One of the few exceptions to the drama/panic news that stood out: CNN had a video of a women in Seattle who told her story of going to a party, coming down with the virus and then recovering. "You will get better - not much different than the common flu."

I think part of why we see the infection rates seem to ramp up so alarmingly is because more and more people are becoming aware of c-19 and seeking testing. And more and more tests are being done because more testing kits are becoming available. There are more people getting infected as well, of course - together they ramp up the numbers exponentially and created an artificial sense of a virus that is out of control.

kiki - let me know if you really don't understand how Social Media contributed to the near "panic buying" and slanted news coverage that has accompanied this virus. Or if you were just being an anus, 'mkay?

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Saturday, March 14, 2020 3:56 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
For the last couple weeks I have had the nagging feeling that most news media were overhyping this virus. It started with the giant, scary micro pictures of the virus blown way up on screen behind every talking head. Really? You need to do that? They were everywhere.

OK, you saturated yourself with the m$m. fwiw I think it was over-hyped BUT UNDER-EXPLAINED.
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And yet, to me the numbers of infected seemed small, the mortality rate seemed relatively low. Just a hunch, though. I wondered how did this rate compare to past Big Bad viruses or even the average flu? So I posted numbers for infection and mortality caused by something we'd all be familiar with, something that happens every year. You have heard of the Flu, right?
And that's your first mistake. There is no such thing as 'THE Flu'.

Every year the CDC tracks 5 of what they think of are the most important flu viruses going around. But there may be more that simply aren't being tracked, because each test requires its own primers etc. So there could be many other flus going around they just didn't test for. That death rate you see from 'THE Flu'? It's the COMBINED death rates from ALL FLUs going around that year, not just from 'THE Flu'. Each flu has a death rate that's smaller. Take 'THE' death rate and divide by 3 and you'll have the scariest death rate from any individual virus.
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I also posted wondering about the age of the deceased because it stood out to me that no one was saying it. Just "elderly and those with current health issues are high risk."
Where'd that "quote" come from, btw? One of your phantom sources?
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That says nothing except that they probably aren't saying for a reason.
??? incomplete sentence - not interpretable
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If this is just very old
In any case you couldn't even quote your own quote accurately.

But let's break your little piece of propaganda down. Nothing in your quote says JUST those people are at risk. YOU put that in. It says nothing about the VERY elderly. YOU put that in. And you completely missed addressing the 'current health issues' part entirely.

So, I'm going to address REALITY.

Healthy middle aged people, people in their 30s and 20s, and children have also died. As I already pointed out - it's not JUST one group as you so disingenuously stated. There are many factors that put people in the increased risk category. Smoking is one of them.

When it comes to age, the group at risk is over 60. Over 60 is VERY old, as you propagandized? "The ARDS patients had an average age of 61 ..." Some were younger. Some were older. And maybe that's you in that range.

And finally, why did you disingenuously fail to mention those pre-existing medical conditions? (high blood, pressure, diabetes, and cardio-vascular disease among others)

NOTHING ABOUT YOUR CLAIM IS TRUE.

And by the time you add it up - people around 60 and older, smokers, even young people with pre-existing conditions, it's a LOT of the population at SPECIAL risk. And then, everyone is at some risk as a baseline.
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then the story is less scary, the need to keep tuning in is less compulsive.
Not JUST 'very' old people ... but let's move on ...
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Jack posted that the average age so far is 80.
That's just cherry-picking in support of an agenda. You've heard of cherry-picking, right? Iraq? WMDs? Ring a bell about how dishonest that is?
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Which is the same part of the population that is always in danger of viruses.
Not true. One of the latest flus going around during flu season was Influenza b/ Victoria, where children and young adults were at special risk, so much so Los Angeles County declared a flu health emergency for it. Which renders this
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Novo virus hit a few senior care facilities in our city, some in care died, and they went on lock down. So nothing new there.
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Plus: The infection curve for China - the hardest hit - has had a down turn. But you don't see stories about "the good news that is China."
But it didn't just happen while China stood idly by and did nothing. Their measures were draconian. People who were even SUSPECTED of having SARS-COV-2 were hauled out of their homes by force and put in mass quarantine camps. Entire cities were put inside a militarily-enforced cordon sanitaire - no one was allowed in or out, with barricades and guards on the streets. Then entire provinces were shut down. Then the entire country was shut down.



Meanwhile, Italy, which DID sit by and do nothing so as not to inconvenience the people, is a lesson in how bad things can get.
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I recently posted that for the first time in South Korea (the second hardest hit), the recovery numbers were greater than new infections. But you don't see stories about "the good news that is S Korea."
But SK ALSO instituted intensive measures to stop the spread, including drive-through FREE mass testing (over 200,000 tested in a population of 50M, while the US has tested - at most - 20,000 in a population of 350+M) and mandatory mask-wearing in public to keep people from spreading the virus, and mandatory (police-enforced) home quarantine for people who tested positive.
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One of the few exceptions to the drama/panic news that stood out: CNN had a video of a women in Seattle who told her story of going to a party, coming down with the virus and then recovering. "You will get better - not much different than the common flu."
Snicker
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I think part of why we see the infection rates seem to ramp up so alarmingly is because more and more people are becoming aware of c-19 and seeking testing. And more and more tests are being done because more testing kits are becoming available. There are more people getting infected as well, of course - together they ramp up the numbers exponentially and created an artificial sense of a virus that is out of control.
If the virus hasn't been/ isn't spreading the numbers wouldn't be going up.


https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/03/who-is-getting-sick-and-how-sick-a
-breakdown-of-coronavirus-risk-by-demographic-factors
/
https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/health-environment/article/3065187/coro
navirus-south-koreas-aggressive-testing-gives

https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/health-environment/article/3074469/coro
navirus-south-korea-cuts-infection-rate-without

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-quarantines-south-korea-vi
etnam-more-die-outside-china-2020-2?op=1

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Sunday, March 15, 2020 10:06 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Ok, so I saw this long response from you and I was briefly encouraged that it might mean you would be thoughtful and not full of your STUPID ANGRY BITTER SH*T. Unfortunately, no. True to your shallow form, it didn't take long for you to bust that up. I'll respond to the first few things you posted, but once you go into KIKI ANGRY BUTTHOLE mode, I'm done. It would be pretty cool with so few people left here if you didn't go there so quickly. We might actually learn something.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
For the last couple weeks I have had the nagging feeling that most news media were overhyping this virus. It started with the giant, scary micro pictures of the virus blown way up on screen behind every talking head. Really? You need to do that? They were everywhere.

OK, you saturated yourself with the m$m. fwiw I think it was over-hyped BUT UNDER-EXPLAINED.



Um, "saturated?" That's your thing - look at you copying links from all over. No, never saturated with MSM. Don't trust it.

KIKI = so very wrong. Again, again, again....

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
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And yet, to me the numbers of infected seemed small, the mortality rate seemed relatively low. Just a hunch, though. I wondered how did this rate compare to past Big Bad viruses or even the average flu? So I posted numbers for infection and mortality caused by something we'd all be familiar with, something that happens every year. You have heard of the Flu, right?
And that's your first mistake. There is no such thing as 'THE Flu'.



KIKI = dumbfuk, not even being the least bit clever.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

But let's break your little piece of propaganda down...zzzzzzzzzzzzz....



Snore...f*ck off. What a waste of time.

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Sunday, March 15, 2020 10:08 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


AS USUAL - you can't argue the facts, so you lie ... and troll.

Got it.


But thanks for the bump!

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Sunday, March 15, 2020 11:39 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


The death percentage numbers are insanely skewed.

Literally TONS of people feel no effects and don't go to the doctor, let alone get tested.

Big nothing burger, like everything else the Legacy Media shills. lol at another failed attempt at attacking Trump because Democrat's can't find a decent candidate to run against him.

In a few weeks we'll look back at this and laugh.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 15, 2020 1:34 PM

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Tuesday, March 17, 2020 10:22 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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"Anyone who tries to crash this dinner party is going to get some copper coated candy for desert..." har har!

Funny Jo, - too bad they pulled the account before I could see it all!

What's happening?

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Tuesday, March 17, 2020 10:24 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
But thanks for the bump!



Bump for what??!?
How many people do you think come here?
Bump so people can see you being dumb ass?

Bump!

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Tuesday, March 17, 2020 10:27 AM

THG


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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

But thanks for the bump!



Bump for what??!?
How many people do you think come here?
Bump so people can see you being dumb ass?

Bump!



Too funny...

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