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Sunday, March 1, 2020 1:37 PM

JO753

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Blowout by Rachel Maddow iz about the oil & gas industry and how destructiv it haz been to the economy, goverments uv the world and the envirement.

The history and storyz within show the dark side uv the industry that suppliez a major chunk uv the enerjy powering civilization. You think you know alredy? I did.

No, I didnt. You may hav an inkling, but you dont know.

Even the election uv Trump haz its roots in oil soaked Russian dirt.

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Sunday, March 1, 2020 1:39 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nobody believes anything Maddow has to say about anything in 2020.

You should find a better spokesperson if you want something to be taken seriously.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 1, 2020 1:43 PM

JO753

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By 'nobody' you mean the gullibullz inside the Fox eko chamber.

Stupidity iz an expensiv hobby, 6.

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Sunday, March 1, 2020 1:59 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Oh yeah? How's that? I'm doing fine. I'm not worried about losing my house like you are while you hang on Maddow's every word.

I don't make my money lying to stupid people every night either.



How's your boy Olbermann doing now, BTW?

After all the lies he peddled his brain finally broke and he can't think about anything but rescue dogs with what's left of his broken double digit IQ.



Maddow too, will get what's coming to her.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 1, 2020 3:31 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody believes anything Maddow has to say about anything in 2020.

You should find a better spokesperson if you want something to be taken seriously.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
By 'nobody' you mean the gullibullz inside the Fox eko chamber.

Stupidity iz an expensiv hobby, 6.

After the past 3 years, you have the insipid urge to call somebody else gullible?

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Sunday, March 1, 2020 9:37 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Just checking in on our boy Olbermann...

https://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/status/1234304941348528128

Quote:

ADOPTION FEES WAIVED FOR VANNA WHITE! Blood was caked on her legs and in her eliminations; human claimed she’s sick. No. She was ABUSED. “Classic people dog” crashing in shelter, dies Tuesday #SaveThisDog Vanna 87539; pledge via @TomJumboGrumbo
PLEASE RT! https://newhope.shelterbuddy.com/Animal/Profile



Do you suppose he means "please retweet"?

Or is he begging Russia Today news for help?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 1, 2020 11:41 PM

JO753

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Trying to think... hoo woud be afraid uv Maddow enuf to go into attak mode wenevr she iz mentioned?

hmmm. Such a puzzling mystery.

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Monday, March 2, 2020 12:43 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I'm about as "afraid" of Maddow as I am the Coronavirus, Putin and AIDS.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, March 2, 2020 1:53 AM

WISHIMAY


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


Or is he begging Russia Today news for help?




God, you get dumber by the day.


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Monday, March 2, 2020 8:13 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


Or is he begging Russia Today news for help?




God, you get dumber by the day.




I thought it was cute.

Something nobody has ever once said about you.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, March 2, 2020 10:22 AM

JO753

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Distraction duznt work so well on peepl hoo dont hav a bunch uv time to waste.

Even if you hav no particular interest in the oil & gas industry, read Blowout to understand Putinz motivationz for the 2016 election operation.

It revealz Rex Tillerson'z role, wich wuz much more sentral than I knew.

You get a good overview uv Russia'z situation and how it iz really victim #1.

The Ukraine extortion attempt iz just the most resent chapter in the same story.

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Monday, March 2, 2020 11:28 AM

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Even if you hav no particular interest in the oil & gas industry, read Blowout to understand Putinz motivationz for the 2016 election operation.

“In possibly the greatest show of political power ever to attend the grand opening of a gas station,” the New York Post would offer, “Russian President Vladimir Putin showed up in Chelsea yesterday with Sen. Chuck Schumer to help inaugurate the first Russian-owned chain of petroleum stops in America.”

The Post’s rival tabloid, the New York Daily News, countered with “Fill ’er up, Vlad,” under the headline “No Fueling, That’s Putin.”

Blowout / Rachel Maddow

https://bit.ly/3akWhpd or
https://1337x.unblockit.red/torrent/4031045/Rachel-Maddow-Blowout-Corr
upted-Democracy-Rogue-State-Russia-and-the-Richest-Most-Destructive-Industry-on-Earth-ePUB
/

Russian Oil Company Buys U.S. Gas Station Chain
Nov. 4, 2000
www.nytimes.com/2000/11/04/business/international-business-russian-oil
-company-buys-us-gas-station-chain.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, March 2, 2020 11:48 AM

THG


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Monday, March 2, 2020 1:42 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Originally posted by JO753:
Trying to think...

Yes, please do!
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hoo woud be AFRAID uv Maddow enuf to go into attak mode wenevr she iz mentioned?
As far as I can tell NOBODY is "afraid" of Madcow. I sure don't believe her, tho!
OTOH, you seem to be awfully touchy about her.

*****

Yanno, I worked in the environmental regulatory field for years, and my older sister was an oil and gas geologist. Highly aware of Deepwater Horizon, she has told me stories about oil platforms that just ... disappeared into the ocean. And when a gas storage field nearby had a monthlong blowout, all I could think of was "It's like Deepwater Horizon, except on land". And then there's fracking ... had a very interesting conversation with someone who runs a big fracking operation, and some problems with oil recovery operations in old oil fields including blown out pipelines that left gas-and-oil-filled sinkholes in downtown city streets.

I doubt there's anything Madcow could tell me that I don't already know.

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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Monday, March 2, 2020 3:09 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Just checking in on our boy Olbermann...

https://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/status/1234304941348528128

Quote:

ADOPTION FEES WAIVED FOR VANNA WHITE! Blood was caked on her legs and in her eliminations; human claimed she’s sick. No. She was ABUSED. “Classic people dog” crashing in shelter, dies Tuesday #SaveThisDog Vanna 87539; pledge via @TomJumboGrumbo
PLEASE RT! https://newhope.shelterbuddy.com/Animal/Profile



Do you suppose he means "please retweet"?

Or is he begging Russia Today news for help?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I heard that Larry King now works for RT.
Now I know to never believe anything RT says.

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Monday, March 2, 2020 6:03 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I doubt there's anything Madcow could tell me that I don't already know.

Did you already know this from Blowout, Rachel Maddow, Chapter 27, "All They Have Is This":

Go back further than that, back to the root of the thing, back to when Vladimir Putin first became president of the Russian Federation, when it still had the makings of a potential superpower revival. Whatever its hard knocks on the way out of communism, this was the largest country on the face of the earth, with the only nuclear arsenal to match the United States of America. This was the country that gave us Tolstoy and Bolshoi and Pavlov. This was the country that launched the first man-made satellite into space. Launched the first man into space! And Russia, at the beginning of our century, also had the most impressive reserves of the most prized and remunerative commodities on earth—oil and natural gas. It was the sort of inheritance that, husbanded wisely and well, could have funded a border-to-border revival: education, infrastructure, health services, even fair elections. Could have financed new industry and technological advances. Could have provided a rich and loamy bed in which a modern republic capable of serving the general welfare of the Russian people would grow. Russia had the wherewithal to remake itself, again, into one of the most influential and powerful nations on the planet. A free, first-world Russia would have been a fearsome and worthy competitor in commercial and international affairs.

President Putin chose a different path, not least because establishing a diversified economy in post-Soviet Russia would have been really hard, requiring Russia to build and sustain a lot of things it hadn’t ever had on a national scale: a reasonable expectation of the impartial rule of law, a reasonably competent government responsive to its people, reasonable public investment in the kind of physical and financial infrastructure that allows businesses to get established and grow, reasonable prospects for upward mobility and maybe even getting rich if you had talent and gumption and a little good luck. Results may vary as to what counts as “reasonable” in any one time and place. But a few things were certain: building that kind of a Russia would take a ton of work. And it would provide no guarantee of a lifetime leadership job for any one ruler—no matter how good he looked shirtless on a bear.

Putin opted for a shorter and easier path, which solved two problems: it gave him permanent job security, and it saved Russia the pain in the butt of actually building itself a modern twenty-first-century economy and government. Putin’s most fateful decision for his country was that oil and gas wouldn’t just be the profitable crown jewel in Russia’s diversified economic array; it would be Russia’s everything. And Putin would exercise almost complete control over it and use it in whatever way he saw fit.

It turns out to have been a colossal mistake, with grotesque consequences. For Russia, for the United States, for pretty much everyone except the oil and gas industry, and maybe Putin himself.

Now in his twentieth year running the show, Vladimir Putin presides over a metaphysical unforced error: the tragic scuppering of one of the potentially great nations in the world. Russia has been assiduously engineered into a sclerotic dictatorship; its economy wholly dependent on its one indispensable industry, which is by design almost solely monopolized by its big, lousy, noncompetitive state-controlled oil and gas companies, which are all run by spies or thugs or judo guys, and almost exclusively for the benefit of Vladimir Putin and his global aims. Their companies are not exactly soaring on the strength of their R&D prowess. And there’s a good reason for that. No one, in any major Russian enterprise, has been allowed to succeed or prosper legitimately and on his own terms. Anyone who rose to any station must owe that ascent to Putin, and answer to him for it. That has been doubly true in the energy sector, which has been Putin’s crucial lever of power. No one in that industry held on to money or power or property except with his say-so and on his ugly terms. If you were trying to become a clean businessman, running a capable and profitable energy company outside the control of the Kremlin, you were going to lose that business. Goodbye, Yukos. And maybe do a prison term. Hello, Mikhail Khodorkovsky. Alternatively, if you were a businessman or a crony who played along and served a useful purpose, you’d be rewarded with stolen goods. And you’d better stay loyal or you could do a prison term, too—look, you’ve got stolen goods!

That’s how Russia’s premier natural gas company, Gazprom, earned its reputation as “the worst managed company on the planet.” And that’s how the most Putin-loyal yes-man in Russia, Igor Sechin, became one of the most powerful figures in Russia. And how his company, Rosneft, became the behemoth of the country’s oil industry—the Death Destroyer of Worlds, eating Yukos and Bashneft and any other cash-making morsels. It is not incidental that as an oil company Rosneft sucks. It wasn’t as if it got big and powerful by streamlining its supply chains and inventing stuff. Rosneft sucks all the time, but especially lately, when—because of sanctions against Russia for its terrible international behavior—it no longer has access to all that nifty Western Arctic- and shale-drilling technology it needs to reap that increasingly hard-to-get Russian oil.

The country, meanwhile, has eroded into a stultifying economic sinkhole for average Russians. “Despite receiving $1.6 trillion from oil and gas exports from 2000 to 2011, Russia was not able to build a single multi-lane highway during this time. There is still no interstate highway linking Moscow to the Far East,” Karen Dawisha wrote in her richly detailed 2014 book, Putin’s Kleptocracy. “The inability of well-trained young graduates to succeed as entrepreneurs and innovators in Russia has stimulated emigration and plans to emigrate.” Dawisha went on to quote a pollster in Moscow on the plight of young Russians: “They have nowhere to go, nothing to do, and nothing to hope for.”

“The lack of adequate medical care produces five times more deaths from cardiovascular disease among women in Russia than in Europe,” the professor wrote. “More Russian women die annually from domestic violence than the number of soldiers the USSR lost in the entire Afghan war. For Russian men, the situation is even grimmer. Poor workplace and road safety standards, plus high rates of suicide and homicide combine with the negative health effects of high alcohol consumption to make life especially precarious…. According to the World Health Organization, the life expectancy of a fifteen-year-old male is three years lower in Russia than in Haiti.”

Let that sink in for a second: if you’re a fifteen-year-old boy, your life expectancy is three years longer if you are in Haiti than in Russia.

Russia under Putin has become warped and stunted—a gigantic multi-continental country of 150 million souls, living on an economy considerably smaller than Italy’s, with male life expectancy so low that you might think the national pastime really was Russian roulette.

This is a manifestation of a recognizable and widespread phenomenon—the Resource Curse—which has happened over and over again, with varying degrees of despair, from the Gulf of Guinea to the southern Great Plains.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, March 2, 2020 6:12 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


A) Sounds like a lot of supposition and very little evidence

B) Who cares about Russia anyway?

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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Monday, March 2, 2020 6:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
A) Sounds like a lot of supposition and very little evidence

B) Who cares about Russia anyway?

The book is all about oil. Russia is all about oil. This is what oil did to Russia. This is a manifestation of a recognizable and widespread phenomenon—the Resource Curse—which has happened over and over again, with varying degrees of despair, from the Gulf of Guinea to the southern Great Plains.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, March 2, 2020 7:22 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
A) Sounds like a lot of supposition and very little evidence

B) Who cares about Russia anyway?

Maybe it's Trump's fault?

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Monday, March 2, 2020 9:51 PM

JONGSSTRAW


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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
A) Sounds like a lot of supposition and very little evidence

B) Who cares about Russia anyway?

Maybe it's Trump's fault?


Has to be. Under his administration the U.S. has become the largest oil producer in the world, ie. we don't need to rely on one drop of Arab oil (OPEC) ever again, and U.S. gas prices have remained low and stable for years.

Democrats hate all those results of course. They hate that Trump opened up ANWR for drilling. They hate the success of the new pipelines, and they really hate fracking. But those of us that drive cars, fly in planes for business and vacations, and heat our homes are grateful.

Of course the oil, gas, and coal haters still have the option available of sticking a long-stemmed pinwheel in their ass to get around.


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Tuesday, March 3, 2020 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

Has to be. Under his administration the U.S. has become the largest oil producer in the world, ie. we don't need to rely on one drop of Arab oil (OPEC) ever again, and U.S. gas prices have remained low and stable for years.

Democrats hate all those results of course. They hate that Trump opened up ANWR for drilling. They hate the success of the new pipelines, and they really hate fracking. But those of us that drive cars, fly in planes for business and vacations, and heat our homes are grateful.

Of course the oil, gas, and coal haters still have the option available of sticking a long-stemmed pinwheel in their ass to get around.


It is guys like me in Texas that did it. That fat fucking bastard Trump had nothing to do with it.

You can see the results out of Texas and how production grew year after year. Again, it had nothing to do with that fat bastard Trump:
www.rrc.state.tx.us/oil-gas/research-and-statistics/production-data/te
xas-monthly-oil-gas-production
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, March 3, 2020 11:41 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
A) Sounds like a lot of supposition and very little evidence

B) Who cares about Russia anyway?

The book is all about oil. Russia is all about oil. This is what oil did to Russia. This is a manifestation of a recognizable and widespread phenomenon—the Resource Curse—which has happened over and over again, with varying degrees of despair, from the Gulf of Guinea to the southern Great Plains.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Oh, the Resource Curse? I've known about that for decades. Russia has got the Resource Curse?

So what?

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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Tuesday, March 3, 2020 11:45 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

Has to be. Under his administration the U.S. has become the largest oil producer in the world, ie. we don't need to rely on one drop of Arab oil (OPEC) ever again, and U.S. gas prices have remained low and stable for years.
Democrats hate all those results of course. They hate that Trump opened up ANWR for drilling. They hate the success of the new pipelines, and they really hate fracking. But those of us that drive cars, fly in planes for business and vacations, and heat our homes are grateful.
Of course the oil, gas, and coal haters still have the option available of sticking a long-stemmed pinwheel in their ass to get around.


SECONDRATE: It is guys like me in Texas that did it. That fat fucking bastard Trump had nothing to do with it.
You can see the results out of Texas and how production grew year after year. Again, it had nothing to do with that fat bastard Trump:

Oh, YOU'RE The Guy we get to blame for environmental degradation, and Trump had nothing to do with it! Yep! Knew it all along!


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Tuesday, March 3, 2020 11:49 AM

THG


U.S. oil exports are up to 1.6 million barrels a day, according to a recent Reuters report. That’s 9 percent of total refining capacity: 17.6 million barrels, no one is sure why.

These are the same morons who think the price of gas is what’s listed at the pump Second. At least two thirds of our Middle Eastern military budget since WW11 goes to protecting that oil. And the transportation routes to get that oil here. Add that to the price at the pump and see what our local trolls think then.

My point, renewables, not coal and oil is the way to go.


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Tuesday, March 3, 2020 1:18 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
A) Sounds like a lot of supposition and very little evidence

B) Who cares about Russia anyway?

The book is all about oil. Russia is all about oil. This is what oil did to Russia. This is a manifestation of a recognizable and widespread phenomenon—the Resource Curse—which has happened over and over again, with varying degrees of despair, from the Gulf of Guinea to the southern Great Plains.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Oh, the Resource Curse? I've known about that for decades. Russia has got the Resource Curse?

So what?

Rachel Maddow told you what: From looking at Russia's past achievements, it has all the potential to be the greatest country in Eurasia, yet Putin stole/squandered/wasted the oil wealth and ruined the possibility of greatness. What is Putin doing, instead? He is dragging all other countries down to his level. The description of how is right there in the Blowout book. Short version: it is far easier to sabotage another country than to build up Russia, which would require careful planning, management, investment, and massive effort. After hesitating, Putin decided that what was easiest for himself was best and too bad if Russia could not look after itself because Putin would be busy taking care of himself first, last, always. "He has accumulated $200 billion."
https://qz.com/1594989/vladimir-putins-financial-disclosure-claims-lit
tle-wealth
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, March 3, 2020 9:01 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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U.S. oil exports are up to 1.6 million barrels a day, according to a recent Reuters report. That’s 9 percent of total refining capacity: 17.6 million barrels, no one is sure why.

These are the same morons who think the price of gas is what’s listed at the pump Second. At least two thirds of our Middle Eastern military budget since WW11 goes to protecting that oil. And the transportation routes to get that oil here. Add that to the price at the pump and see what our local trolls think then.

My point, renewables, not coal and oil is the way to go.


T


Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.




Hook up an exercise bike to a battery and charge your computer with that, you fat fuck.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, March 4, 2020 1:14 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

SIGNY:
A) Sounds like a lot of supposition and very little evidence

B) Who cares about Russia anyway?

SECOND: The book is all about oil. Russia is all about oil. This is what oil did to Russia. This is a manifestation of a recognizable and widespread phenomenon—the Resource Curse—which has happened over and over again, with varying degrees of despair, from the Gulf of Guinea to the southern Great Plains.]

SIGNY: Oh, the Resource Curse? I've known about that for decades. Russia has got the Resource Curse?

SECOND: Rachel Maddow told you what: From looking at Russia's past achievements, it has all the potential to be the greatest country in Eurasia, yet Putin stole/squandered/wasted the oil wealth and ruined the possibility of greatness.

So what? Are you a Russia-booster now? So worried about Russia you want to see it reach its greatness?

Quote:

SECOND ]: ... What is Putin doing, instead? He is dragging all other countries down to his level. The description of how is right there in the Blowout book. Short version: it is far easier to sabotage another country than to build up Russia, which would require careful planning, management, investment, and massive effort. After hesitating, Putin decided that what was easiest for himself was best and too bad if Russia could not look after itself because Putin would be busy taking care of himself first, last, always. "He has accumulated $200 billion."
https://qz.com/1594989/vladimir-putins-financial-disclosure-claims-lit
tle-wealth/

Describe this "dragging down" that Russia supposedly foisted on other nations. What did Putin do? Which nations were targeted? How did he accomplish his goals (whatever they were).

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Wednesday, March 4, 2020 7:19 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Describe this "dragging down" that Russia supposedly foisted on other nations. What did Putin do? Which nations were targeted? How did he accomplish his goals (whatever they were).

You will have to read the book. Meanwhile:

www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51719764

Russian President Vladimir Putin wants marriage to be defined as the union of a man and woman in a revised constitution, ruling out gay marriage.

It is among several constitutional amendments proposed by Mr Putin, which are set to be put to a public vote.

Critics see the proposals as a move by Mr Putin to keep a hold on power after his presidential term ends in 2024.

The package includes a proclamation of Russians' faith in God and a ban on giving away any Russian territory.

The territorial amendment would strengthen Russia's hold on Crimea - a Ukrainian region it annexed in 2014 - and the Kuril Islands, disputed with Japan since World War Two, according to Vladimir Mashkov, a renowned actor-director involved in drafting the new constitution.

Crowd-pleasers to get public approval

Why does Vladimir Putin suddenly feel the need to write all this into Russia's constitution?

It has less to do with reflecting current values in society and more to do with creating talking points that conceal the suspected chief reason behind the constitutional rewrite: providing a legal basis for President Putin to remain in a position of influence or power after 2024 - if not as president, then in some other role.

Among the proposed changes that get little mention in the state media here is the inclusion in the constitution of a little-known body called the State Council. It's believed this could be a possible future power base for Mr Putin.
Other amendments will end up strengthening the power of the president.

But since Mr Putin has decided he wants Russians to vote on the proposals, he needs to find a way of getting people excited about the changes - and getting them to the ballot boxes on 22 April. That's where the populist slogans come in - and subjects like God, family and marriage - as well as promises to include in the constitution support for wages and pensions.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, March 4, 2020 9:21 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


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Originally posted by JO753:
Distraction duznt work so well on peepl hoo dont hav a bunch uv time to waste.

Even if you hav no particular interest in the oil & gas industry, read Blowout to understand Putinz motivationz for the 2016 election operation.

It revealz Rex Tillerson'z role, wich wuz much more sentral than I knew.

You get a good overview uv Russia'z situation and how it iz really victim #1.

The Ukraine extortion attempt iz just the most resent chapter in the same story.




It's a great read. I confess to getting a bit bored in places, but then it is pretty heavy going. As usual, Maddow gets so much right and sees so much more than most of us could hope to - highly recommend, glad you read it.

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Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:16 AM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
As usual, Maddow gets so much right



HA!



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, March 4, 2020 11:44 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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SECOND: Rachel Maddow told you what: From looking at Russia's past achievements, it has all the potential to be the greatest country in Eurasia, yet Putin stole/squandered/wasted the oil wealth and ruined the possibility of greatness.

SIGNY: So what? Are you a Russia-booster now? So worried about Russia you want to see it reach its greatness?

You forgot to answer this question, SECOND.

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SIGNY Describe this "dragging down" that Russia supposedly foisted on other nations. What did Putin do? Which nations were targeted? How did he accomplish his goals (whatever they were).

SECONHAND: You will have to read the book.

In other words, you don't know because YOU haven't read the book either, all you've been doing is spouting inane talking points, like you always do

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SECONDHAND: Meanwhile:

www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51719764

Russian President Vladimir Putin wants marriage to be defined as the union of a man and woman in a revised constitution, ruling out gay marriage.

It is among several constitutional amendments proposed by Mr Putin, which are set to be put to a public vote. Critics see ...

... blah blah blah (let me throw this shit against the board to distract from the fact that I have no idea what I'm posting about) and more blah blah blah ...



Again, why the big concern with "RUSSIA!"? You seem anguished that Putin is screwing up, almost as if you're a big Russia fan and are terribly concerned that it does well.

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