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His OWN security advisor says Chump is guilty, writes a book about it. Chump cult STILL in denial.

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Tuesday, January 28, 2020 7:05 PM

WISHIMAY


Can you imagine if everyone on trial got to influence what evidence was admitted in their own prosecution??


Chump cult answers "Ooooh, can we?"







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Tuesday, January 28, 2020 8:06 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


“Nothing in the Bolton revelations, even if true, would rise to the level of an abuse of power or an impeachable offense,” Dershowitz said. “That is clear from the history, that is clear from the language of the Constitution. You cannot turn conduct that is not impeachable into impeachable conduct, simply by using words like quid pro quo and personal benefit.” What Dershowitz’s argument failed to note, however, is that the quid pro quo Trump is specifically charged with centers on his leveraging of military aid to obtain personal political favors for his reelection.

www.vox.com/2020/1/28/21111107/alan-dershowitz-john-bolton-bombshell-i
mpeachment-trial


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, January 28, 2020 8:43 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Can you imagine if everyone on trial got to influence what evidence was admitted in their own prosecution??


Chump cult answers "Ooooh, can we?"









Oh. You mean John Bolton?

The architect of all of the Middle Eastern wars we've been in since GWB and a large reason of why The Patriot Act exists.

Yeah. I've been making fun of T for sucking his dick for about a week now.

Did you just find this out or something?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, January 28, 2020 9:37 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:




Did you just find this out or something?




My new thing is just boiling down concepts (for those here with ADD) into a headline, because I know you have to sort through headlines to find things and that means reading it over and over every day. Maybe it will sink in that the people Trump PICKED spend five minutes with him and say "I'M OUT".

Maybe not. But I've made it clear.


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Tuesday, January 28, 2020 9:40 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
“Nothing in the Bolton revelations, even if true, would rise to the level of an abuse of power or an impeachable offense,” Dershowitz said. “That is clear from the history, that is clear from the language of the Constitution. You cannot turn conduct that is not impeachable into impeachable conduct, simply by using words like quid pro quo and personal benefit.” What Dershowitz’s argument failed to note, however, is that the quid pro quo Trump is specifically charged with centers on his leveraging of military aid to obtain personal political favors for his reelection.

www.vox.com/2020/1/28/21111107/alan-dershowitz-john-bolton-bombshell-i
mpeachment-trial





See, boil it all down for them. You use too many words. They can't process more than a sentence at a time... I'm also not sure they can process more than four words at a time....


Like on this one, just...

The quid pro quo Trump is specifically charged with centers on his leveraging of military aid to obtain personal political favors for his reelection.

Boil it down!

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Tuesday, January 28, 2020 9:44 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Bolton lied about WMD. Repeatedly and with malice.

Why should I believe him?

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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Tuesday, January 28, 2020 10:00 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Well, even Bolt-on isn't confirming it's in the book.

When it comes to WMDs, I guess he thought he could skate on them until either something showed up or people forgot.

But that book ...

... if he testifies AND HE CAN'T TESTIFY UNDER OATH IT'S IN THERE - and he even HINTED it was in there - it's an immediate credibility problem. So he can't confirm anything ahead of time. He's going for plausible deniability. Let everyone else spread the lies while he stays mum. Then when he gets up on the stand, he can say he never made that claim, and talk about everything but. Yanno, have his mouth shit more rumors, more gossip, more non-events.

The fact that he's not confirming it's in the book is the reason why I think this is just a set-up to shoehorn him onto the stand for more bullshitting.


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Tuesday, January 28, 2020 10:03 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:


Why should I believe him?




What reason do you have for him to lie??

Going against The Cult isn't going to do him any favors, yanno.

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Tuesday, January 28, 2020 10:13 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

SIGNYM: Why should I believe him?

WISHY: What reason do you have for him to lie?? Going against The Cult isn't going to do him any favors, yanno.

TRUMP FIRED HIM.

That's a pretty good reason to lie, right there.

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Tuesday, January 28, 2020 11:01 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
What reason do you have for him to lie??



Because his name is John fucking-burn-the-world-down Bolton.

Everything that man says is a lie. Democrats used to know that.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, January 29, 2020 12:13 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
TRUMP FIRED HIM.




He's fired half of Washington, who gives a shit anymore??

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Wednesday, January 29, 2020 4:12 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

SIGNYM: TRUMP FIRED HIM.

WISHY: He's fired half of Washington, who gives a shit anymore??

Well, apparently Bolt-on does. He has a plausible motive to lie AND a history of lying. So, why should I believe him, again?



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Wednesday, January 29, 2020 7:04 AM

THG


Anatomy of a ‘smear’: How John Bolton became a target of the pro-Trump Internet

“John Bolton Took Money From Banks Tied To Cartels, Terrorists, Iran,” it read.

On Monday, the blog entry gained sudden popularity. That’s because its central claim — based only on innuendo and half-truths — proved useful to President Trump’s most fervent online supporters, who rushed to discredit the former United Nations ambassador and national security adviser

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/analysis-how-john-bolton-becam
e-a-target-of-the-pro-trump-internet/ar-BBZqf5U?ocid=msedgntp


T

Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.

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Wednesday, January 29, 2020 8:00 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

SIGNYM: TRUMP FIRED HIM.

WISHY: He's fired half of Washington, who gives a shit anymore??

Well, apparently Bolt-on does. He has a plausible motive to lie AND a history of lying. So, why should I believe him, again?

Trump Lawyer Says Bolton Should Testify

Jay Sekulow makes the case:

Sekulow read several statements denying Bolton’s allegation that Trump directly tied the withholding of military aid to Ukraine to investigations into his political rivals.

Sekulow then sought to emphasize what remains unknown about Bolton’s still-unpublished book, calling it “an unpublished manuscript that maybe some reporters have an idea of maybe what it says.” Sekulow continued: “I mean, that’s what the evidence — if you want to call that evidence — I don’t know what you’d call that — I’d call it inadmissible — but that’s what it is.”

Well, that might be true. I suppose it could be hearsay, but only because courts will reject evidence if a more direct source is available. For example, a book might be inadmissible if the author is available to testify.

Which is true in this case. So I agree with Sekulow: Bolton’s book is inadmissible. The only proper source for this evidence is testimony from Bolton himself.

Thanks, Jay! I’m glad we’re all in agreement about this.

More at www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/01/trump-lawyer-says-bolton-should
-testify
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, January 29, 2020 9:14 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Anatomy of a ‘smear’: How John Bolton became a target of the pro-Trump Internet

“John Bolton Took Money From Banks Tied To Cartels, Terrorists, Iran,” it read.

On Monday, the blog entry gained sudden popularity. That’s because its central claim — based only on innuendo and half-truths — proved useful to President Trump’s most fervent online supporters, who rushed to discredit the former United Nations ambassador and national security adviser

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/analysis-how-john-bolton-becam
e-a-target-of-the-pro-trump-internet/ar-BBZqf5U?ocid=msedgntp


T

Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.




lol. Yup. Bolton was a great guy.

He's being smeared now.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, January 29, 2020 10:41 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

SIGNYM: TRUMP FIRED HIM.

WISHY: He's fired half of Washington, who gives a shit anymore??

Well, apparently Bolt-on does. He has a plausible motive to lie AND a history of lying. So, why should I believe him, again?



You really think “the greatest deal maker Eva” didn’t use the opportunity of a new president in Ukraine who was in line to get much needed military aid, to work a deal for himself? lol
Don’t bother answering, I know you aren’t that stupid! I’ll wager very few Trump supporters are that stupid. They know he extorted/ twisted the Ukraine president’s arm to work dirt on Biden - it would be more unforgiving for True Trump fans IF he hadn’t! Shit stinks, hon.

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Wednesday, January 29, 2020 11:27 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


lol

What is the ROI of digging up dirt on Biden?

From the beginning, Biden was the Democrat candidate with any viability that Trump was least afraid of facing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, January 29, 2020 11:29 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


So basically you'd convict Trump on the SUPPOSITION that he did something wrong?

"He's guilty because I think he's just that kind of guy?"

Well, that's pretty much in line with you believing that I'm a "Russian troll" altho I know for a fact that I'm neither Russian nor troll. So IMHO you've pretty much discredited yourself by being disconnected from reality when it comes to politics.

Frankly I think this is all political theater, more made-up stuff just like the Steele "dossier". THAT was a series of big fat lurid whoppers ... just one fantasy after another ... made up whole cloth by some British twit. Can you imagine the gall of the deep state, that they tried to pin "Russian collusion" on the President using fabricated "evidence"? I mean, really, the chutzpah of those people! They obviously have no moral or ethical boundaries to cross!

Why should I believe this is any different?

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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Wednesday, January 29, 2020 5:50 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


OH!

Lookee here.

Another crazy thread for Queen Misery of Nilbog.

Not exactly a troll-feeding frenzy here.

But let's just not feed Nilbog, m'kay?


Everything about the title pretty much screams that nothing but crazy will be posted inside. IF the title even stays the same for more than a day. Who knows how many hours pass in the day of such a delusional psycho?

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Thursday, January 30, 2020 1:33 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


This just in...!

Quote:

Spy Expert: The Steele Trump-Russia Dossier Was “Fabricated”

In some not so surprising news, a spy expert has come out saying what most of us already knew: the Steele dossier was completely “fabricated.” Nigel West, one of Britain’s leading experts on espionage, was hired to examine the dossier written by his friend Christopher Steele. He concluded it was all manufactured falsehoods.

West, hired to examine the dossier back in 2017, quickly concluded that “there is… a strong possibility that all Steele’s material has been fabricated,” according to the Sunday Times...

West told RT that he was surprised Steele made such obvious errors in the dossier. Some of the most glaring mistakes were those such as treating one particular source as an expert in three entirely different fields or making up the existence of the Russian consulate in Miami, Florida. The source in question starts out as a middle-manager at the Ritz-Carlton in Moscow, but is later described as an expert on cyber warfare, and later yet as an expert on money-laundering by Russian immigrants in the US, West explained. “On the face of it, it looked inherently improbable that this single source was as proclaimed.”

MORE AT https://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/spy-expert-the-steele-trump-rus
sia-dossier-was-fabricated_01282020






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Thursday, January 30, 2020 2:16 PM

WISHIMAY


Bolton, when working for Trump and trying to cover his ass says Ukraine call was "Warm and Cordial"


Bolton fired less than a month later.


What he really meant was "Warm and cordial quid pro quo".


Chump tries to block Bolton's book quoting "National Security concerns" when Chump himself released memo notes of the call.


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Thursday, January 30, 2020 2:20 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:


West, hired to examine the dossier back in 2017, quickly concluded that “there is… a strong possibility that all Steele’s material has been fabricated,” according to the Sunday Times...




You probably should read the comments in the articles you post.




Nigel West is NOT any expert in anything related to spying.
He is a British author that writes spy novels.
He’s never been a spy nor in ANY security or intelligence role or job.
Please fact check. Easy to see Nigel West’s entire bio from birth, education and jobs.
On top of which it’s pretty easy to google the books he’s written.



You do know the difference between a fiction author and and ACTUAL EXPERT, right?

No of course you don't...you only care about making more propaganda


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Thursday, January 30, 2020 2:43 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


lol

Nilbog telling somebody to fact check is the funniest thing posted to RWED today... so far.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, January 30, 2020 2:47 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nilbog telling somebody to fact check is the funniest thing posted to RWED today... so far.



Nah, you saying none of the Dem candidates "are good with money" is a whole lot funnier.

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Thursday, January 30, 2020 3:19 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nilbog telling somebody to fact check is the funniest thing posted to RWED today... so far.



Nah, you saying none of the Dem candidates "are good with money" is a whole lot funnier.



lol

Okay. Show me one example.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, January 30, 2020 6:53 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Okay. Show me one example.



Well, it ain't YOU, babe

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Thursday, January 30, 2020 7:22 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

Nilbog telling somebody to fact check is the funniest thing posted to RWED today... so far.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

lol

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Thursday, January 30, 2020 7:31 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Okay. Show me one example.



Well, it ain't YOU, babe



No shit, Nilbog. I'm not a Democrat.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, February 1, 2020 2:04 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


No shit, Nilbog. I'm not a Democrat.




Yer not great with money either... just gonna sit around with yer tax return and wait out the coronavirus that no one should be worried about, right?

Sounds awful worried to me


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Saturday, February 1, 2020 3:46 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

SIGNYM: West, hired to examine the dossier back in 2017, quickly concluded that “there is… a strong possibility that all Steele’s material has been fabricated,” according to the Sunday Times...

WISHY: You probably should read the comments in the articles you post.

There are so many errors in the "dossier" that MANY people have concluded it was a fake, from mentioning the same contact in three different Russian agencies to referring to the Russian consulate in Florida (none exists) to using the wrong (non-Russian) date format to misspelling common words.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2017/01/13/the-trump-
dossier-is-false-news-and-heres-why
/

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/435872-mueller-confirms-the-st
eele-dossier-belongs-in-the-dustbin-of-history


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/25/christopher-steele-ad
mits-dossier-charge-unverifie
/

Only a naive person would have given it any credibility when it first came out, and only and extreme idiot would continue to defend it now.

It's one thing to be naive, it's another to learn nothing at all from experience. I'm approaching anything Bolt-on says with all the skepticism it deserves.



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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Saturday, February 1, 2020 5:40 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


No shit, Nilbog. I'm not a Democrat.




Yer not great with money either... just gonna sit around with yer tax return and wait out the coronavirus that no one should be worried about, right?

Sounds awful worried to me




Nah... Just going to stay at home and work on my house and avoid working some place where nobody calls in sick because they don't get paid time off and prevent myself from getting the flu again for the third year in a row.

I'm able to do that because I'm awesome with money, honey. ;)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, February 1, 2020 8:09 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


I'm able to do that because I'm awesome with money, honey. ;)



LOL. "Awesome with money." You mean "fixed income granny" level good with money because your work ethic is the worst of all the adult males I know. I know people who are literally mentally ill that are better off than you.

3 yrs in a row?? Have you thought about WASHING YOUR HANDS?? Maybe you should consider getting a flu shot?

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Saturday, February 1, 2020 8:45 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Enjoy your weekend Princess.

Then it's back off to your wage slave camps for five days.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, February 2, 2020 1:33 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Enjoy your weekend Princess.

Then it's back off to your wage slave camps for five days.




I can't wait for your first major health problem where you need surgery and you can't even pay the reduced bills and collections people call night and day...

You'll wish you were a good little wage slave.

I promise...one day I will see you eat your words

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Sunday, February 2, 2020 2:23 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I'm never going to be an old man, Nilbog.

Not worried about that in the slightest.


Have fun worrying about whether or not that little nest egg you think you're building is going to be worth anything by the time you retire if the US Dollar ever gets untied from petrol.

Imagine that. All that working and slaving away, all for nothing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, February 2, 2020 7:51 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm never going to be an old man, Nilbog.




You lacked the courage TO LEAVE THE HOUSE SOBER FOR FIVE YEARS, there isn't a person here who thinks you'd have the balls to end it.

At least we've done something with our lives.
All you've done is produced and endless pile of shit and shitposts


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Sunday, February 2, 2020 9:48 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You keep bringing up my past because you're obsessed with me and you resent that I'm turning my life around and you are stuck in a situation you hate with people you can barely tolerate and who can barely tolerate you.

Don't worry about my future, Princess. I've got that covered. You worry about doing something about the things in life you can actually have some control over and stop worrying about all the things you are powerless to do anything about and you might not be such a bitch all the time.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, February 3, 2020 12:57 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You keep bringing up my past because you're obsessed with me and you resent




6ix, I swear to whatever higher powered being may or may not be in this 'verse...

If you were to not come back tomorrow I would not EVER ask where you've gone.

Truly, nothing about you intrigues me.

I find your attitude to women sad, your overall lack of character sick, and your hypocrisy most disturbing... and I think you need to find a therapist, like YESTERDAY.

I do not care what you own, what you drive, or what you do.


Is there ANY way I can make it totally clear to a narcissist that I find them repugnant??
Would they ever understand that someone could be NOT fascinated with them??


You think I talk to you because I am obsessed?????

That would be hilarious if it wasn't so bizarre!!

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Monday, February 3, 2020 1:11 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


And yet, you just can't help yourself. Can you, Nilbog?

Thou doth protest too much, Princess.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, February 3, 2020 6:25 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And yet, you just can't help yourself.




Say the idiot who can't stop talking.



I fucking hate you, la la la... LOSER.

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Tuesday, September 5, 2023 6:25 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Bolton on Ramaswamy’s Ukraine position: He ’emulates Trump every time he can’
https://www.aol.com/entertainment/bolton-ramaswamy-ukraine-position-em
ulates-160112810.html


Ex-Proud Boy head Enrique Tarrio gets longest Jan. 6 sentence yet: 22 years
https://globalnews.ca/news/9940501/proud-boys-jan-6-enrique-tarrio-sen
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