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Thursday, October 24, 2019 7:49 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Hold on to your butts.


@ShannonBream


BREAKING: DOJ IG Horowitz sends letter to Congressional leaders. Says report is going through declassification ("nearing completion"), is lengthy, and he anticipates few redactions. Doesn't foresee "a need to prepare and issue separate classified and public versions."

6:36 PM · Oct 24, 2019

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Thursday, October 24, 2019 8:46 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Hold on to your butts.


@ShannonBream


BREAKING: DOJ IG Horowitz sends letter to Congressional leaders. Says report is going through declassification ("nearing completion"), is lengthy, and he anticipates few redactions. Doesn't foresee "a need to prepare and issue separate classified and public versions."

6:36 PM · Oct 24, 2019

Libtards puckering.

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Thursday, October 24, 2019 9:06 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I just hope it's thorough, so there are no unanswered questions left.

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Thursday, October 24, 2019 9:17 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Libtards puckering.

You have been watching too much FOX News, JewelStaiteFan. Libtards don't watch.

On Monday morning, Fox News published a story asking where the FISA report was. “Anticipation builds as DOJ watchdog still hasn’t released review,” the headline proclaimed.

To those outside the conservative news bubble, “the FISA report” might not mean much—let alone be “highly anticipated,” as the story described it. But those who watch Fox News have been primed to think of this report as something that will show that the FBI and Justice Department were reckless, or even acted illegally, in their efforts to undermine Donald Trump.

More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/10/inspector-general-fisa-rep
ort-carter-page-russia-investigation.html


Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz informed Congress on Thursday that the Justice Department and the FBI's classification review of the report on alleged Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act abuses is "nearing completion."

A letter sent to House and Senate leaders said the draft report is "lengthy" and "concerns sensitive national security and law enforcement matters."

More at www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/doj-inspector-general-says-report-on-a
lleged-fisa-abuses-nearing-completion


The report will eventually show up at the Office of the Inspector General
U.S. Department of Justice: https://oig.justice.gov/reports/all.htm

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, October 24, 2019 11:12 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


There will be no end to my laughing if Trump and his team set all of this up to embarrass a LOT of people.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, October 25, 2019 6:44 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Two schools of thought here... We're being told that, much like with the Mueller report ( and the transcript w/ Ukraine's President ) there will be few redactions. Which means everything will be out on the table could mean there's very little of substance there to begin with,

OR

IG isn't playing around.

Also, there's this -


DOJ opens criminal investigation of Russia probe; impending IG report ‘will shed light on why’


U.S. Attorney John Durham’s probe into the origins of the Russia investigation has now shifted to a criminal inquiry, two sources familiar with the matter told The New York Times which indicated that the move would give the prosecutor “the power to subpoena for witness testimony and documents, to impanel a grand jury and to file criminal charges.”

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/10/25/doj-opens-criminal-investigati
on-of-russia-probe-impending-ig-report-will-shed-light-on-why-843674

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Friday, October 25, 2019 7:59 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Libtards puckering.

You have been watching too much FOX News, JewelStaiteFan. Libtards don't watch.

On Monday morning, Fox News published a story asking where the FISA report was. “Anticipation builds as DOJ watchdog still hasn’t released review,” the headline proclaimed.

To those outside the conservative news bubble, “the FISA report” might not mean much—let alone be “highly anticipated,” as the story described it. But those who watch Fox News have been primed to think of this report as something that will show that the FBI and Justice Department were reckless, or even acted illegally, in their efforts to undermine Donald Trump.




T


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Friday, October 25, 2019 8:03 AM

THG


Russian spy Maria Butina, 30, will be released from jail on Friday and escorted by two ICE agents back to Moscow

Russian spy Maria Butina will be released from prison on Friday and will be escorted back to Moscow, Russia, her lawyer revealed.

Butina worked as a pro-gun activist who infiltrated conservative political circles in the U.S. on behalf of the Kremlin around the 2016 election.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/russian-spy-maria-butina-30-will-be-
released-from-jail-on-friday-and-escorted-by-two-ice-agents-back-to-moscow-after-serving-16-months-of-her-18-month-sentence-as-her-life-behind-bars-of-five-mile-runs-and-working-at-the-prison-cafeteria-is-revealed/ar-AAJjRp5?ocid=spartanntp



T


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Friday, October 25, 2019 8:34 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Russian spy Maria Butina, 30, will be released from jail on Friday and escorted by two ICE agents back to Moscow

Russian spy Maria Butina will be released from prison on Friday and will be escorted back to Moscow, Russia, her lawyer revealed.

Butina worked as a pro-gun activist who infiltrated conservative political circles in the U.S. on behalf of the Kremlin around the 2016 election.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/russian-spy-maria-butina-30-will-be-
released-from-jail-on-friday-and-escorted-by-two-ice-agents-back-to-moscow-after-serving-16-months-of-her-18-month-sentence-as-her-life-behind-bars-of-five-mile-runs-and-working-at-the-prison-cafeteria-is-revealed/ar-AAJjRp5?ocid=spartanntp



T






So... ICE are the good guys now, right T?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, October 25, 2019 10:06 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Two schools of thought here... We're being told that, much like with the Mueller report ( and the transcript w/ Ukraine's President ) there will be few redactions. Which means everything will be out on the table could mean there's very little of substance there to begin with,

OR

IG isn't playing around.

Also, there's this -


DOJ opens criminal investigation of Russia probe; impending IG report ‘will shed light on why’


U.S. Attorney John Durham’s probe into the origins of the Russia investigation has now shifted to a criminal inquiry, two sources familiar with the matter told The New York Times which indicated that the move would give the prosecutor “the power to subpoena for witness testimony and documents, to impanel a grand jury and to file criminal charges.”



I hope it's better than the turd Nunes laid in public. Remember his "Memo" that Gaetz said would blow up and start putting Democrats etc in jail? Gawd, what a joke.

This sh*t is another desperate stunt by the GoP. If you were ever a true Republican or Conservative this new group of clownish f-wads should make you want to vomit. I hope you guys get your party back, because real Conservatism has value and is an important push back to some of the over reach many Liberals desire. We need 2 strong, ethical partys.

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Friday, October 25, 2019 11:31 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


You guys keep using the word "desperate".

I think you need to look up the word in the dictionary.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, October 25, 2019 12:54 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


The mueller investigation wasn’t a massive stunt?

This is the real deal.

Brace for impact.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Friday, October 25, 2019 2:43 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
The mueller investigation wasn’t a massive stunt?

This is the real deal.

Brace for impact.

It was October 2nd when Trump said he will likely sue some people who were involved in Mueller probe. I certainly hope he does. Trump did not name names but has long expressed frustration at some of the central figures in the investigation such as former FBI Director James Comey. Good. A Republican being sued by a Republican. While Trump is at it, he should sue Attorney General Jeff Sessions, his Deputy Rod Rosenstein, and former FBI Director Mueller, all Republicans involved in the probe. Lock. Them. Up!

The Mueller probe found the Russian state did run a hacking and propaganda operation to disrupt the U.S. election.

www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-whistleblower-lawsuit/trump-says-
he-will-likely-sue-some-people-who-were-involved-in-mueller-probe-idUSKBN1WH29K


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, October 25, 2019 2:59 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Neither of you remember the Nunes Memo? Or just trying to forget it?

Do you remember:
Pizzagate? Obama birther joke? Clinton is a pedophile? Benghazi? Clinton's emails? Storming the SCIF? (What a stupid stunt - figures Gaetz would be there). Will you remember Quid Pro Quo? "Russia didn't hack the election - Trump"? Michael Flynn? "pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI." Paul Manafort & Michael Cohen? They got locked up! I can't think of anything with Trump's imprint that hasn't been a total f*ck-up.

You really need to listen to judge Napolitano more.
https://bit.ly/32IvY9b

"Judge Napolitano Schools ‘Fox & Friends’ on Impeachment: Schiff Just ‘Following the Rules’ Written by GOP
Fox News’ judicial analyst disappointed his colleagues by explaining there’s nothing wrong with “secret” impeachment hearings."

If you listen to him you'll be ahead of most GOP congressmen.

Or maybe Gary Kasparov? Someone who knows something about strategy, defend and attack, and Russia, specifically Putin. Also seems to know a lot about Trump:

"As predicted, Trump has moved from using the Justice Department for obstruction to going after opponents. Unable to defend the indefensible, he attacks.

It's a move from obstruction to active. There will likely be criminal cases against whoever gets the most attention. A campaign of destruction, distraction, and to intimidate potential witnesses.

This is a step, a new phase. They are moving from abusing Justice powers to cover up their previous abuses to targeting potential threats to intimidate and discredit them, a new category of abuses."

I think his predictions and understanding is perfect.

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Friday, October 25, 2019 3:26 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Do you remember:

My memory goes all the way back to when Trump's lawyer was Roy Cohn, who was also Senator Joe McCarthy's lawyer. McCarthyism was a vociferous campaign against alleged communists in the US government and other institutions carried out under McCarthy in the period 1950–54. Many of the accused were blacklisted or lost their jobs, although most did not in fact belong to the Communist Party. Trump learned lying from Cohn, who learned from McCarthy.

Roy Cohn Is How We Got Trump
www.nytimes.com/2019/09/20/opinion/roy-cohn-trump.html
From McCarthyism to the mob to Trump, Cohn enabled evil. Why did elites embrace him?

Near the beginning of “Where’s My Roy Cohn?” the new documentary about the lawyer and power broker who mentored Donald Trump, an interviewee says, “Roy Cohn’s contempt for people, his contempt for the law, was so evident on his face that if you were in his presence, you knew you were in the presence of evil.” He wasn’t being hyperbolic.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, October 25, 2019 3:57 PM

OLDGUY

What Would Mal do ?


mcuh as I'd enjoy watching a good house cleaning...I don't expect any major hits...no matter what gang color they wear..all politicians understand that you can't dare try to stain the legacy of our first black president..and all roads eventually lead back to him and his illegit seat as POTUS...so..yeah..they'll make some ugly statements about some whoever that was in some whatever office down in the basement and say it was just plain wrong...but for whatever reason...the actions of the Hilda will never be brought to justice..cause what she did..she did under full cover of folks much too powerful..and if you burn her...and brother she needs a full bbq...then she'll take em down with her like the demons of hell itself grabbing at the legs of the living to pull them into the firey abbys....so.. I don't think I'm even going to pop a bag of ORvilles buttery flavor for this one...rather rewatch an episode of Firefly...

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Friday, October 25, 2019 4:11 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Nunes is irrelevant to this. Dunno why some keep trying to hang their hat on his theatrics.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Friday, October 25, 2019 4:40 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Quote:

?Pizzagate? Obama birther joke? Clinton is a pedophile? Benghazi? Clinton's emails? Storming the SCIF? (What a stupid stunt - )


I don’t know that any of those aren’t real, in part or in full. Clinton’s 27 flights on AirLolita can’t be ignored, if nothing else.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Friday, October 25, 2019 6:33 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Neither of you remember the Nunes Memo? Or just trying to forget it?

Do you remember:
Pizzagate? Obama birther joke? Clinton is a pedophile? Benghazi? Clinton's emails? Storming the SCIF? (What a stupid stunt - figures Gaetz would be there). Will you remember Quid Pro Quo? "Russia didn't hack the election - Trump"? Michael Flynn? "pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI." Paul Manafort & Michael Cohen? They got locked up! I can't think of anything with Trump's imprint that hasn't been a total f*ck-up.

You really need to listen to judge Napolitano more.
https://bit.ly/32IvY9b

"Judge Napolitano Schools ‘Fox & Friends’ on Impeachment: Schiff Just ‘Following the Rules’ Written by GOP
Fox News’ judicial analyst disappointed his colleagues by explaining there’s nothing wrong with “secret” impeachment hearings."

If you listen to him you'll be ahead of most GOP congressmen.

Or maybe Gary Kasparov? Someone who knows something about strategy, defend and attack, and Russia, specifically Putin. Also seems to know a lot about Trump:

"As predicted, Trump has moved from using the Justice Department for obstruction to going after opponents. Unable to defend the indefensible, he attacks.

It's a move from obstruction to active. There will likely be criminal cases against whoever gets the most attention. A campaign of destruction, distraction, and to intimidate potential witnesses.

This is a step, a new phase. They are moving from abusing Justice powers to cover up their previous abuses to targeting potential threats to intimidate and discredit them, a new category of abuses."

I think his predictions and understanding is perfect.

Nunes Memo What memo is that?


LINK NEEDED.

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

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Saturday, October 26, 2019 9:43 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Meh.

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Saturday, October 26, 2019 11:23 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


As usual, the Trump supporter responses avoid everything I brought up. No explanations, no understanding, just "ignore it." Sorry, Nunes Memo is relevant to this because it is yet another example of the dumb shittery the GOP dreams up as a defense of Trump. I can't imagine how anyone could support this lying sack of shit. He embarrasses our entire country every single day. Come on, we can do better.




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Saturday, October 26, 2019 11:36 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Because we've been lied to and manipulated for three years.

Nobody gives a shit.

We're just waiting for this all to play out to the eventual conclusion of nothing happening.

Trump 2020.


You lose.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, October 26, 2019 1:02 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Barr let Epstein be murdered, and if he didn't he's certainly responsible for a complete investigation that goes all the way up the ladder. So far I haven't seen much action on that front. Like I posted, it looks like its going to end in mumbles and excuses.

Barr is willing to investgate SOME things but other things he won't touch with a 10-ft pole. So I'll be interested to see what comes of this.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY

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Saturday, October 26, 2019 1:54 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


After the Mueller show, there's PLENTY for objective people to ignore when the Dems and their fake accusations are concerned.

After 3 years you're still asking why America supports Trump ?

It's easy. His policies are more in sync w/ REAL Americans than the socialist unicorn crap the Left keeps pimping.

No on wants it and until #NeverTrumpers wake the hell up, it'll just be more MAGA comin your way.

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Saturday, October 26, 2019 3:19 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
As usual, the Trump supporter responses avoid everything I brought up. No explanations, no understanding, just "ignore it." Sorry, Nunes Memo is relevant to this because it is yet another example of the dumb shittery the GOP dreams up as a defense of Trump. I can't imagine how anyone could support this lying sack of shit. He embarrasses our entire country every single day. Come on, we can do better.

What memo is that?


LINK NEEDED.

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

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Saturday, October 26, 2019 3:38 PM

THG


Company with ties to Trump’s brother Robert awarded $33 million government contract

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/company-with-ties-to-trumps-br
other-robert-awarded-dollar33-million-government-contract/ar-AAJpmRB?ocid=spartandhp


Is this it? Is this the report you Trumpers are waiting on?

T



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Saturday, October 26, 2019 4:15 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Hold on to your butts.


@ShannonBream


BREAKING: DOJ IG Horowitz sends letter to Congressional leaders. Says report is going through declassification ("nearing completion"), is lengthy, and he anticipates few redactions. Doesn't foresee "a need to prepare and issue separate classified and public versions."

6:36 PM · Oct 24, 2019

But will this interfere with the Witch Hunt Fishing Expedition and Fake Impeachment story arc?

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Saturday, October 26, 2019 4:48 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Hold on to your butts.


@ShannonBream


BREAKING: DOJ IG Horowitz sends letter to Congressional leaders. Says report is going through declassification ("nearing completion"), is lengthy, and he anticipates few redactions. Doesn't foresee "a need to prepare and issue separate classified and public versions."

6:36 PM · Oct 24, 2019

But will this interfere with the Witch Hunt Fishing Expedition and Fake Impeachment story arc?



Are you kidding? Not as long as they can get ad revenue by getting idiots to click their links to fake news.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, October 26, 2019 5:54 PM

THG


Is this it? Is this the report you Trumpers are waiting for?
T



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Saturday, October 26, 2019 6:28 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I'm just really curious what the report will show.

What I HOPE is that there's no loose ends dangling from it. I'd hate to have it rise zombie-like after the fact, like the Mueller report, which DID exonerate Trump of any collusion with Russia.

But speaking of which, as I think about it, the Mueller report WAS a political hack-job. Since they couldn't find anything about Trump / Russia they did take a lot of extra time compiling what may (or may not, Mueller specifically was neutral about any conclusions) have been obstruction. So he created the loose ends that democrats have been trying to grasp for political reasons.

GOOD JOB MUELLER! You couldn't find anything, so you created something!

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

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Thursday, October 31, 2019 4:05 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


1 + week and … I've not seen it drop.

Maybe tomorrow ?

And in an unrelated development, why has gasoline gone up 22 cents in the past few days ? What'd I miss ?

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Thursday, October 31, 2019 8:36 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
1 + week and … I've not seen it drop.

Maybe tomorrow ?

And in an unrelated development, why has gasoline gone up 22 cents in the past few days ? What'd I miss ?

This is horrible that Deep State Criminals are in jeopardy of being investigated.

We should start some Impeachment Resolutions to distract and deflect. Oh, wait....

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Friday, November 1, 2019 7:21 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Bill Clinton wagged the dog by cruise missiling an empty building and killing a night janitor in Iraq.

Deep State is always good for a fake distraction.

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Thursday, November 7, 2019 2:42 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


OOOoooo, can't wait!


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Hold on to your butts.


@ShannonBream


BREAKING: DOJ IG Horowitz sends letter to Congressional leaders. Says report is going through declassification ("nearing completion"), is lengthy, and he anticipates few redactions. Doesn't foresee "a need to prepare and issue separate classified and public versions."

6:36 PM · Oct 24, 2019


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Thursday, November 7, 2019 2:44 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Could you be so kind to remind me....who is the Deep State again? Who runs it?
Is there a decoder ring? Uniforms and the like?


sgg


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Bill Clinton wagged the dog by cruise missiling an empty building and killing a night janitor in Iraq.

Deep State is always good for a fake distraction.


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Thursday, November 7, 2019 2:48 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


OMG, the IG Report.....what ever will we do if the Deep State gets their hands on it? Kiki, quick send up the Bat (shit crazy) signal!

Ha!


sgg


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I'm just really curious what the report will show.

What I HOPE is that there's no loose ends dangling from it. I'd hate to have it rise zombie-like after the fact, like the Mueller report, which DID exonerate Trump of any collusion with Russia.

But speaking of which, as I think about it, the Mueller report WAS a political hack-job. Since they couldn't find anything about Trump / Russia they did take a lot of extra time compiling what may (or may not, Mueller specifically was neutral about any conclusions) have been obstruction. So he created the loose ends that democrats have been trying to grasp for political reasons.

GOOD JOB MUELLER! You couldn't find anything, so you created something!

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.


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Thursday, November 7, 2019 10:10 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
blah blah blah

fify

A billion flies eat shit.

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Thursday, November 7, 2019 11:42 AM

THG


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Thursday, November 7, 2019 3:43 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Hold on to your butts.


@ShannonBream


BREAKING: DOJ IG Horowitz sends letter to Congressional leaders. Says report is going through declassification ("nearing completion"), is lengthy, and he anticipates few redactions. Doesn't foresee "a need to prepare and issue separate classified and public versions."

6:36 PM · Oct 24, 2019



Can we let go of our butts yet?

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Thursday, November 7, 2019 4:01 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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You haven't let go of your butt since February 14th, 2017 when the Countdown thread started.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, November 7, 2019 4:10 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Can we let go of our butts yet?



Is the IG report out yet ?

No?

There's your answer.

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Saturday, November 9, 2019 3:22 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Partial content from this link:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/11/07/is-pending-ig-report-o
n-fisa-abuse-being-held-up-to-facilitate-nsa-bulk-data-re-authorization-that-expires-december-15th
/


Is Pending IG Report on FISA Abuse Being Held-Up To Facilitate NSA Bulk Data Re-authorization That Expires December 15th?…
Posted on November 7, 2019 by sundance

With impeachment headlines absorbing most attention, there is a quiet background story happening in DC where re-authorization of the USA Freedom Act is needed prior to expiration on December 15th. Techno Fog points out the bulk NSA data collection and FISA(702) surveillance programs are part of this reauthorization.

Just yesterday, November 6th, the Senate Judiciary Committee held hearings on the reauthorization. “Senators expressed their displeasure Wednesday with the Trump administration’s inability to answer questions about the National Security Agency’s collection of data records” (link). Which begs the question:

Is the current Inspector General report on FISA abuse being delayed due to the need for congress to reauthorize the very same programs the IG is about to criticize?

For context to this question, and considering the potential for some surprising revelations within the IG report on FISA, it is worth noting the Office of the Director of National Intelligence held back the the findings of FISA Judge James Boasberg that strongly criticized the FISA-702 process for a year.

The Judge Boasberg report was written in September of 2018 but not released (redacted) until last month.

There is a serious problem here…

FISA Court judges Rosemary Collyer (declassified 2017) and James Boasberg (declassified 2019) both identified issues with the NSA database being exploited for unauthorized reasons. We have a large amount of supplemental research to see through most of Collyer’s report and we are now starting the same process for Boasberg. However, an alarming possibility makes it important to outline a rough draft of what appears present.

Initially when Collyer’s report was declassified in April 2017 we were able to start assembling additional circumstantial and direct evidence. Two years of releases allowed us to see a more detailed picture.

Additional documents, direct testimony from NSA Director Mike Rogers, and later connected material from court filings, classified releases and ODNI statements made the understanding much clearer. What became visible was a process of using the NSA database for political surveillance. [SEE HERE]

With the Boasberg report we do not yet have enough supportive material to identify specific purposes. However, directly from the report itself there is a lot of information that shows a continuum of database activity that did not stop after Collyer’s warnings, and the NSA promises. It seems, the political exploitation continues; and with that in mind some recent events are much more troubling.

Boasberg notes the “about” query option that NSA Director Mike Rogers halted, technically didn’t stop. Instead operators used the “to and from” option almost identically as the “about” queries for downstream data review and extraction. The FISA Appellate Court appointed amici curiae to review Boasberg’s opinion and reconcile counter claims by the FBI. Boasberg was never satisfied despite the FISC-R amicus assurances. His opinion reflects valid judicial cynicism within his reluctant re-authorization.

One of the weird aspects to both Collyer and Boasberg is that both FISC judges did not ever seek to ask the “why” question: why are all these unauthorized database searches taking place? Instead, both judges focus on process issues and technical procedural questions, seemingly from a position that all unauthorized searches were done without malicious intent.

Accepting that neither judge had the purpose of benefit to overlay any other information upon their FISA review, their lack of curiosity is not necessarily a flaw but rather a feature of a very compartmentalized problem.

Boasberg and Collyer are only looking at one set of data-points all centered around FISA(702) search queries. Additionally, the scale of overall annual database searches outlined by Boasberg extends well over three million queries by the FBI and thousands of anonymous users; and the oversight only covers a sub-set of around ten percent.

As a result of the number of users with database access; and as Boasberg notes in his declassified opinion there is no consistent application of audit-trails or audit-logs; and worse yet, users don’t have to explain “why”, so there’s no FISC digging into “why”; the process is a bureaucratic FUBAR from a compliance standpoint; perhaps that’s by design.

All of that said, and accepting the FISC review is not engaged in the ‘why’, here’s the part where seemingly disparate dots start to connect and things are concerning.

REMINDER from the Mueller Report:

My strong hunch is that behind this process we would find the reason why the ‘Steele Dossier” was so relevant to Mueller. You see, investigating the dossier made the 2017 Mueller investigation an extension of a 2016 counterintelligence investigation and not a criminal investigation (later, those were spun off).

By maintaining the counterintelligence process for Mueller, the FBI was able to continue exploiting the NSA database as a FISA(702) tool for their investigation. The foreign actors played a key role in this process. So long as the Mueller investigation was targeting foreign actors they could collect downstream evidence on the “702” (American persons) returns.

In essence, the “small group” could stretch the NSA database rules to conduct electronic warrantless searches and massive electronic surveillance on targets direct (“to/from”) and indirect (downstream).

The violations that Boasberg is identifying (March 2017 through March 2018) must also include FISA database searches conducted by Mueller’s FBI team. It is all within the same system of electronic surveillance. The pattern, frequency and specifics of the Boasberg report are identical to the 2017 Rosemary Collyer report. Same violations. Same processes.

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Saturday, November 9, 2019 3:33 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


shit

They can think of a million ways to screw us.

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Saturday, November 9, 2019 4:37 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


Oooo, clever!

such is the leader; Lord of the Flies!


sgg


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
blah blah blah

fify

A billion flies eat shit.


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Saturday, November 9, 2019 5:15 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


And here is troll #4, launching personal attacks, as always, and completely devoid of anything to say OT.

So, while a billion flies eat shit, SHITTY is a fly, shitting shit.



BTW, it must really 'bug' you - so to speak - that I'm smarter than you.

A billion flies eat shit.

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Sunday, November 10, 2019 4:15 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
shit

They can think of a million ways to screw us.

That portion which I posted was apparently less than one tenth of what was on the page at that linky.
I did not read the entirety of info at that link.
Did you?

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Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:21 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
shit

They can think of a million ways to screw us.

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
That portion which I posted was apparently less than one tenth of what was on the page at that linky.
I did not read the entirety of info at that link.
Did you?

No ... sorry to say I didn't. I'm kinda' a fast reader, but I have my limits as to how much I'll go through.

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Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:31 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


But speaking of the IG report ...

... here's a prognostication (highly edited - see complete writings at link).
Quote:



https://saraacarter.com/horowitz-report-will-be-damning-criminal-refer
rals-likely
/

Horowitz Report Will Be Damning. Criminal Referrals Likely.

Department of Justice Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s much anticipated report on his investigation into the FBI’s probe into President Trump’s campaign is expected to be made public before Thanksgiving and the outcome is alleged to contain several criminal referrals, according to sources who spoke with SaraACarter.com.

Horowitz’s investigation ... will more than likely result in the declassification of documents — requested by senior Republican lawmakers for more than several years. ...

Those documents will contain several classified pages of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act on former Trump campaign advisor Carter Page, exculpatory evidence that was withheld from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, the so-called ‘Gang of Eight’ folder (which contained exculpatory information), as well as the email chain between FBI investigators in the Russia probe and then-FBI Director James Comey. ... As previously reported, the email chains will contain information that prove the FBI knew prior to obtaining a warrant to spy on Page that former British spy Christopher Steele’s information in his infamous dossier on Trump could not be proven.

It is also expected to reveal that the FBI knew that Steele was leaking to the media but then used those media reports as separate evidence in their request for a FISA warrant, known as circular intelligence reporting. ...

Horowitz’s report is also going to contain evidence that the FBI handled Hillary Clinton’s campaign differently than that of President Trump’s campaign. It will reveal that she had received a detailed debriefing from the FBI on foreign attempts to make contact with her campaign. It will reveal the deep bias and animus those FBI officials had toward the Trump campaign.

It is the most highly anticipated Horowitz report during the Trump administration’s tenure. Why? Because for more than three years the American people have not had closure or resolution to what exactly warranted the FBI investigation to spy on a presidential campaign, or for that matter on the President.

“It would also fatally undermine the credibility of Schiff, who argued vehemently that there were no FISA abuses — it will mean that, as Intel Committee Chairman, (Schiff's) ignoring severe abuses for purely political purposes.”

Those political purposes lead to the most important question lingering in Horowitz’s investigation: Did senior officials within the FBI and U.S. intelligence apparatus weaponize the system for political purposes against a candidate for the presidency and did they continue to do so after Trump had been elected?

Here’s what to expect: According to several sources the report will be ‘damning’ and will allegedly contain criminal referrals on former FBI officials. The report will apparently have at least two criminal referrals, said two sources, with knowledge. One of those criminal referrals is expected to be Comey. However, the Inspector General’s office has not been providing comments on the report.

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Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:38 PM

THG



T

Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.




Kiki's a child. She doesn't know that in the world of adults the adults can tell when a child is acting out. For instance, kiki only posts about flies to certain people in certain threads. Like a child having a tantrum.

She won't admit it but that is trolling. It doesn't matter what the rest of her post is. Her intent is clearly to troll the person her post is directed to.

As always, the adult has to tolerate the child. It's Ok kiki, we understand.

Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Oooo, clever!

such is the leader; Lord of the Flies!


sgg


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
blah blah blah

fify

A billion flies eat shit.




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Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:42 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I really got under your skin! Good.

A billion flies eat shit.

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