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Tuesday, October 22, 2019 11:40 AM

BRENDA


The Liberals have won but they are a minority government this time around. Conservatives are the Loyal Opposition.

The Liberals will be joining with the NDP to make up the Federal government.

I'll get you the numbers later of breakdown of seats.


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Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:13 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yeah. Trudeau won, but the liberals in general really didn't.

My guess is that his own government opposition will stymie him until the next election and he'll be out of office next election.


Meh. Even the conservatives in Canada are liberals though.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:45 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I think Trudeau is driven too much by political-correctness but I have no idea what the alternatives would be, so maybe he is the best choice.

My Canadian friend would like to see someone other than Liberal/ Conservative/ NDP. He doesn't like any of them because their collective foreign policy resides somewhere with our deep state, plus they don't mind supporting Israel's apartheid policies IIRC. Foreign-policy-wise seems like not much difference between them ...they all support NATO, Israel, and the EU ... correct?

So probably Canadians politicians run on domestic policies and I wouldn't be surprised if health care spending was a perennial issue. Budget deficits and energy policies also issues, since Canada makes a fair bit of money exporting tar-sands oil? Don't know much about your Conservative party in general; I imagine it would be strongest in the "plains" provinces (Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and possibly the NW Territories and Yukon). Do they run on getting rid of Canada's single-payer health plan? I can't imagine that would be a winning plank! The last conservative that I heard about was the late mayor of Toronto, Rob Ford. He was entertaining as hell, but that's only because he wasn't my mayor! I assume the other Conservative politicians aren't as colorful but would be curious how you see the differences between the Liberals, the Consevatives, and the NDP.


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Tuesday, October 22, 2019 2:36 PM

THG


More than that Brenda, nobody who opposed Trudeau was jailed or poisoned. Fair and free elections, what a concept.

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Tuesday, October 22, 2019 3:05 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I know. The Clintons over on this side of the border are insane.

Canada should probably build a wall to keep them out.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, October 22, 2019 5:02 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. Trudeau won, but the liberals in general really didn't.

My guess is that his own government opposition will stymie him until the next election and he'll be out of office next election.


Meh. Even the conservatives in Canada are liberals though.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



You, my dear Jack weren't listening to Scheer. And it is he who will be out as Conservative leader since he couldn't beat Trudeau when he was down.

This time round again it is better red than blue in Canada. We do not need a Trump wanna-be in Parliament.

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Tuesday, October 22, 2019 5:20 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I think Trudeau is driven too much by political-correctness but I have no idea what the alternatives would be, so maybe he is the best choice.

My Canadian friend would like to see someone other than Liberal/ Conservative/ NDP. He doesn't like any of them because their collective foreign policy resides somewhere with our deep state, plus they don't mind supporting Israel's apartheid policies IIRC. Foreign-policy-wise seems like not much difference between them ...they all support NATO, Israel, and the EU ... correct?

So probably Canadians politicians run on domestic policies and I wouldn't be surprised if health care spending was a perennial issue. Budget deficits and energy policies also issues, since Canada makes a fair bit of money exporting tar-sands oil? Don't know much about your Conservative party in general; I imagine it would be strongest in the "plains" provinces (Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and possibly the NW Territories and Yukon). Do they run on getting rid of Canada's single-payer health plan? I can't imagine that would be a winning plank! The last conservative that I heard about was the late mayor of Toronto, Rob Ford. He was entertaining as hell, but that's only because he wasn't my mayor! I assume the other Conservative politicians aren't as colorful but would be curious how you see the differences between the Liberals, the Consevatives, and the NDP.


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Compared to the Conservative leader Andrew Scheer, Trudeau is the better option.

Canadian politics is driven by domestic policy. Healthcare spending does come up. Yes, deficits and energy because of Alberta and the tar sands. They get the oil out of the sands before it is shipped.

You are correct, the Prairies did got pretty blue. Alberta is always very conservative.

NO Canadian politician would run on getting rid of our healthcare system. That would sign their death warrant for sure.

Ontario has a Conservative Premier Doug Ford and he is the brother of Rob Ford. None of the Conservatives wanted him near their campaigns as that would have seen them going down in flames. Ford is not popular in Ontario with all of cuts.

The Conservatives ran a nasty campaign and had several candidates across the country that have made openly racists and homophobic comments that came back to bite them. Andrew Scheer himself was constantly attacking Trudeau on anything he could think of.

The shine may have come off Trudeau but I think the people accepted his apologizes for the stupid things he did in the past. And his not ducking the questions that came from them.

Jagmeet Singh, I liked. He's the head of the Federal NDP. He handled himself well when confronted with racist remarks from people. He was back east when an older gentleman walked up to him and said something nasty. Mr. Singh said that Canadians all look different. The older man shook his hand and said, "I'll still vote for you."


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Tuesday, October 22, 2019 5:21 PM

BRENDA


Very true THG.

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Tuesday, October 22, 2019 5:26 PM

BRENDA


There are 338 seats in the House of Commons(Parliament) To have a majority government you must win 170 seats.

Break down for this election goes as follows:

Liberals 156

Conservatives 121

NDP 25

Green Party 3

Bloc 2

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Tuesday, October 22, 2019 6:15 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Wow. That's not just a bit shy of a majority, it's a LOT short!

Thanks for the numbers, Brenda!

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Tuesday, October 22, 2019 8:06 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I see 307 liberals there.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, October 22, 2019 8:43 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Wow. That's not just a bit shy of a majority, it's a LOT short!

Thanks for the numbers, Brenda!



You're welcome Kiki.


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Tuesday, October 22, 2019 8:44 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I see 307 liberals there.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



You would be wrong Jack. The Conservative party in Canada is not a good one.

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Wednesday, October 23, 2019 10:52 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
The Liberals have won but they are a minority government this time around. Conservatives are the Loyal Opposition.

The Liberals will be joining with the NDP to make up the Federal government.

I'll get you the numbers later of breakdown of seats.




Brenda, can you send some Canadians down here for our next election?

Canada’s climate election

Multiple scandals threatened his re-election, but Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau managed to narrowly defeat his Conservative opponent in the country’s federal elections on Monday. However, his Liberal Party—the equivalent to mainstream Democrats in America—lost more than 30 seats and its majority in Parliament.

But Canada isn’t a two-party system, so Canada’s Conservative Party—the Republican party-equivalent—isn’t suddenly in control of Parliament. Indeed, the results simply mean that Liberals in Parliament will have to negotiate with elected members of the smaller, further-left New Democratic Party to gain enough support to pass progressive legislation. (See here for a more specific breakdown of the results).

This is great news for the climate, said Catherine Abreu, executive director of Climate Action Network Canada—in fact, the whole election was.

“We got a pretty resounding signal that Canadian voters are on board with climate action,” she said. “Sixty-three percent of people voted for parties with very strong climate plans.” At the same time, only two percent of the population voted for the only Canadian party that denies climate change, the right-wing People’s Party of Canada. The PPC failed to elect a single member of Parliament.

And climate change “dominated the election,” reported Canada’s Global News, adding that the issue “occupied a more prominent space in the election discourse than any previous campaign in Canadian history.”

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Saturday, June 12, 2021 2:50 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I recently ran across a mention of the Canada Conservative Party. I know that each nation has different definitions of parties with the same names. I was wondering what the differences were between Canada Conservative Party and American conservatives.

The 2019 Canada Conservative Party Platform:
https://ospe.on.ca/advocacy/2019-conservative-party-platform/

https://clean50.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Party-Platform-CPC.pdf

It seems that the Canada Conservative Party (CCP) is almost the opposite of American conservatives (AC), except for raw sewage dumps, indigenous peoples, Child Tax Credits, etc.

Seems CCP is more like America's Green Party, a lot of Democrat Party.
No wonder folk get confused if they imagine Conservative Party in Canada is anything like conservatives in America.







Another thread, similar topic:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=19236
Copied from that thread, 15 years ago:
Quote:

Originally posted by FunctionX:
If Republicans were actually Republicans - you know:

- Fiscal Responsibility
- Staying the F out of people's lives
- Supporting small business / anti-monopoly
- Making a government so small it can barely be seen
- Privatizing all government services because the government can never compete / be as efficient as a coporate service for profit.

You know... the whole REPUBLICAN thing - then yes, I think they'd be the natural party for many Americans.

If the Democrats were actually Democrats - you know:

- Supporting honest living wages for American workers
- Rejecting illegal immigration because it takes from American jobs and goes against union working laws and conditions
- Treating Social Security, Welfare, and the possibility of socialized health care as a hand up, not a hand out

You know, the whole DEMOCRAT thing - then yes, they'd be the natural party for many Americans.

//Wondering if Libertarian = Browncoat?


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Sunday, June 13, 2021 9:35 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I saw a YT video from a youngish guy in Canada. Maybe in his mid-thirties. He went into quite a lot of detail of the history of Canada and Canadian politics and certainly seemed to know what he was talking about.

It sounds like their "New Democratic Party" is nothing like our Democrats here, and their "Conservative Party" is not anything like our Republicans either.

I think the most interesting take away from that video is that their Democrat party (NOT the Liberal Party) is the most Nationalistic party of the bunch.


He also made the point that although the media worldwide seems to laud Canada as really having it together and that everyone in Canada is somehow in agreement that the politicians are doing the right thing that there is actually a lot of disagreement between people and politicians. As much as there is anywhere else at least.


Before Justin took control, Canada had been running a budget surplus for quite some time after Canada was on the brink of collapse from over-spending for so long. Justin ran on a platform of spending again and giving out all the freebies and won. They're nowhere near the asinine spending levels of the US now, but the deficit spending in Canada is rather large now under his leadership.

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Sunday, June 13, 2021 9:01 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I saw a YT video from a youngish guy in Canada. Maybe in his mid-thirties. He went into quite a lot of detail of the history of Canada and Canadian politics and certainly seemed to know what he was talking about.

It sounds like their "New Democratic Party" is nothing like our Democrats here, and their "Conservative Party" is not anything like our Republicans either.

I think the most interesting take away from that video is that their Democrat party (NOT the Liberal Party) is the most Nationalistic party of the bunch.


He also made the point that although the media worldwide seems to laud Canada as really having it together and that everyone in Canada is somehow in agreement that the politicians are doing the right thing that there is actually a lot of disagreement between people and politicians. As much as there is anywhere else at least.


Before Justin took control, Canada had been running a budget surplus for quite some time after Canada was on the brink of collapse from over-spending for so long. Justin ran on a platform of spending again and giving out all the freebies and won. They're nowhere near the asinine spending levels of the US now, but the deficit spending in Canada is rather large now under his leadership.

From what I've been reading, the Liberal Party in Canada seems to be like the Communist Party, the Socialist Party, The Marxists, the Progressives, the KKK in USA. But I wasn't able to get enough of the details yet.

Are you saying that the New Democrat Party in Canada is more leaning towards the democracy, like Republicans in USA? I do recall something like that equation at some point in the past, but I couldn't recall if that was North America, or UK, or Yurp.

Recently, Conservative Party in Canada blocked legislation regarding the Residential Schools, which would mirror the Democrat Party in USA, being borne of and build upon the eradication of Indians - even before their demands for continued Slavery were exposed.

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Sunday, June 13, 2021 10:10 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I'm only speaking from the "knowledge" I gained by watching a few videos that a guy in Canada who is a super fan of the Simpsons entire run had to say about Canadian politics... But yeah, that seems to be the gist of things on the surface level. Democrats and Conservatives seem to be flipped over there, while the Liberals are like the Twitter SJW's here.

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Monday, June 14, 2021 1:28 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm only speaking from the "knowledge" I gained by watching a few videos that a guy in Canada who is a super fan of the Simpsons entire run had to say about Canadian politics... But yeah, that seems to be the gist of things on the surface level. Democrats and Conservatives seem to be flipped over there, while the Liberals are like the Twitter SJW's here.

Yep, hating Conxervative Party in Canada is the same as hating Libtards in USA.

I recall that this "spectrum flip" is present in several nations, particularly Yurp, maybe including UK. Each time I re-learn this, I can't remember which is which for very long.

But what is funny is that citizens from other nations think that their definitions are the only definitions used in the world.
Some seem to think that Democrats in America are pro-democracy rather than the anti-American democracy that they really are.

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Monday, June 14, 2021 8:59 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


It is funny to hear that Democrats and Conservatives are more or less flipped in Canada compared to here. Especially since aside from the French speaking citizens they do speak English and they're right next to us.

I'm sure the situation is a lot more nuanced than two carbon copy clones of our parties with swapped names though.

If you take the SJW "progressives" like A.O.C. and Omar out of the party and give them their own party (the Liberal party), then I probably agree with Canada's version of the Democrat party a lot more than I do our own.


As interesting as it is, I should probably exit this conversation at this point though, since I've already said too much.

I'm basing my opinion of Canada's politics off of my dislike for Tredeau and 45 minutes worth of YouTube videos from a 35 year old, who while he comes off as smart and sure of his analysis, might not know as much as he believes he knows.


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Monday, June 14, 2021 5:47 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It is funny to hear that Democrats and Conservatives are more or less flipped in Canada compared to here. Especially since aside from the French speaking citizens they do speak English and they're right next to us.

I'm sure the situation is a lot more nuanced than two carbon copy clones of our parties with swapped names though.

If you take the SJW "progressives" like A.O.C. and Omar out of the party and give them their own party (the Liberal party), then I probably agree with Canada's version of the Democrat party a lot more than I do our own.


As interesting as it is, I should probably exit this conversation at this point though, since I've already said too much.

I'm basing my opinion of Canada's politics off of my dislike for Tredeau and 45 minutes worth of YouTube videos from a 35 year old, who while he comes off as smart and sure of his analysis, might not know as much as he believes he knows.

If time, you might check out the other countries which also flip flop the meanings of those terms, parties, groups.
UK has a Labor Party, as well.

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Monday, June 14, 2021 9:43 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Well, considering the US don't have a 'liberal' party, or a 'conservative' party, or a 'new democrat' party, or a 'Québécois' party - for example - it's a bit off-target to claim that Canada is a bad copy of US political divisions. And considering that many countries existed long before the US, and their political parties, their historical names, and aims nationally evolved for centuries long before the US, it's a also bit off-target to claim they're cattywampus to the US as well. Surely you've noticed the US doesn't have a 'labour' party or a 'tory' party, for example. It's not like the US sets come kind of global standard for political identification.

One needs to take each political division and its name on its own terms.

Oh, that also goes for falsely claiming people are 'Nazis'. That political ID was crafted for a particular set of ideas born in Germany in the 1920's. And while there are genuine Nazis today - in Europe (specifically Ukraine) - it's not a term one should use because of a minor resemblance to the real deal.

There are many other examples of the misunderstanding and misuse of political IDs.

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Tuesday, June 15, 2021 5:52 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Well, considering the US don't have a 'liberal' party, or a 'conservative' party, or a 'new democrat' party, or a 'Québécois' party - for example - it's a bit off-target to claim that Canada is a bad copy of US political divisions. And considering that many countries existed long before the US, and their political parties, their historical names, and aims nationally evolved for centuries long before the US, it's a also bit off-target to claim they're cattywampus to the US as well. Surely you've noticed the US doesn't have a 'labour' party or a 'tory' party, for example. It's not like the US sets come kind of global standard for political identification.

One needs to take each political division and its name on its own terms.

Oh, that also goes for falsely claiming people are 'Nazis'. That political ID was crafted for a particular set of ideas born in Germany in the 1920's. And while there are genuine Nazis today - in Europe (specifically Ukraine) - it's not a term one should use because of a minor resemblance to the real deal.

There are many other examples of the misunderstanding and misuse of political IDs.

I meant no implication that America was the correct lens and the rest of the world was out of whack. Just that America slang was at odds with many other nations in the world, referencing political spectrum.

Not that anybody is right or wrong.
But to understand that "worldwide" Fake News such as CNN, BBC are intentionally being deceitful by using the terms in blanket fashion, knowingly trying to confuse their audience by using terms they know will confuse the audience.

For instance, Brenda oft mentions that she seems to despise Trump, when hating her Conservatoives islike hating Democrats.in America

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Tuesday, June 15, 2021 7:28 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Well, considering the US don't have a 'liberal' party, or a 'conservative' party, or a 'new democrat' party, or a 'Québécois' party - for example - it's a bit off-target to claim that Canada is a bad copy of US political divisions. And considering that many countries existed long before the US, and their political parties, their historical names, and aims nationally evolved for centuries long before the US, it's a also bit off-target to claim they're cattywampus to the US as well. Surely you've noticed the US doesn't have a 'labour' party or a 'tory' party, for example. It's not like the US sets come kind of global standard for political identification.

One needs to take each political division and its name on its own terms.

Oh, that also goes for falsely claiming people are 'Nazis'. That political ID was crafted for a particular set of ideas born in Germany in the 1920's. And while there are genuine Nazis today - in Europe (specifically Ukraine) - it's not a term one should use because of a minor resemblance to the real deal.

There are many other examples of the misunderstanding and misuse of political IDs.

I meant no implication that America was the correct lens and the rest of the world was out of whack. Just that America slang was at odds with many other nations in the world, referencing political spectrum.

Not that anybody is right or wrong.
But to understand that "worldwide" Fake News such as CNN, BBC are intentionally being deceitful by using the terms in blanket fashion, knowingly trying to confuse their audience by using terms they know will confuse the audience.

For instance, Brenda oft mentions that she seems to despise Trump, when hating her Conservatoives islike hating Democrats.in America



JSF, I do despise Trump. Conservatism may not be the same flavour as in the US but that still doesn't make them right. I usually vote NDP.

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Tuesday, June 15, 2021 10:07 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I meant no implication that America was the correct lens and the rest of the world was out of whack. Just that America slang was at odds with many other nations in the world, referencing political spectrum.

Not that anybody is right or wrong.
But to understand that "worldwide" Fake News such as CNN, BBC are intentionally being deceitful by using the terms in blanket fashion, knowingly trying to confuse their audience by using terms they know will confuse the audience.



This is what I gathered from your posts.

It's an idea that should be explored more.

Maybe instead of trying to cram CRT down the throats of kids, they should be explaining concepts such as this to children.

Critical thinking is one of the most valuable skills a person can have, yet critical thinking is what the educational system in this country actively goes out of its way to destroy.

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Wednesday, June 16, 2021 1:26 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Well, considering the US don't have a 'liberal' party, or a 'conservative' party, or a 'new democrat' party, or a 'Québécois' party - for example - it's a bit off-target to claim that Canada is a bad copy of US political divisions. And considering that many countries existed long before the US, and their political parties, their historical names, and aims nationally evolved for centuries long before the US, it's a also bit off-target to claim they're cattywampus to the US as well. Surely you've noticed the US doesn't have a 'labour' party or a 'tory' party, for example. It's not like the US sets come kind of global standard for political identification.

One needs to take each political division and its name on its own terms.

Oh, that also goes for falsely claiming people are 'Nazis'. That political ID was crafted for a particular set of ideas born in Germany in the 1920's. And while there are genuine Nazis today - in Europe (specifically Ukraine) - it's not a term one should use because of a minor resemblance to the real deal.

There are many other examples of the misunderstanding and misuse of political IDs.

I meant no implication that America was the correct lens and the rest of the world was out of whack. Just that America slang was at odds with many other nations in the world, referencing political spectrum.

Not that anybody is right or wrong.
But to understand that "worldwide" Fake News such as CNN, BBC are intentionally being deceitful by using the terms in blanket fashion, knowingly trying to confuse their audience by using terms they know will confuse the audience.

For instance, Brenda oft mentions that she seems to despise Trump, when hating her Conservatoives islike hating Democrats.in America

JSF, I do despise Trump. Conservatism may not be the same flavour as in the US but that still doesn't make them right. I usually vote NDP.

Yes, as we have been pointing out, the New Democrat Party in Canada is most like conservatives in America. And Trump is the most conservative President that America has had since Reagan (30 years before).
So that is like saying you despise the NDP but vote for them.

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Wednesday, June 16, 2021 1:29 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I meant no implication that America was the correct lens and the rest of the world was out of whack. Just that America slang was at odds with many other nations in the world, referencing political spectrum.

Not that anybody is right or wrong.
But to understand that "worldwide" Fake News such as CNN, BBC are intentionally being deceitful by using the terms in blanket fashion, knowingly trying to confuse their audience by using terms they know will confuse the audience.

This is what I gathered from your posts.

It's an idea that should be explored more.

Maybe instead of trying to cram CRT down the throats of kids, they should be explaining concepts such as this to children.

Critical thinking is one of the most valuable skills a person can have, yet critical thinking is what the educational system in this country actively goes out of its way to destroy.

Do you find it disingenuous that Libtards have eliminated CRITICAL Thinking, but to try to imply validity they are replacing it with CRITICAL Race Theory?

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Wednesday, June 16, 2021 1:36 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


The fact that they both have critical in their names make them just about as related as the patriots that framed the Constitution and the framers of the Patriot Act.

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Wednesday, June 16, 2021 2:08 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Quote:

Yes, as we have been pointing out, the New Democrat Party in Canada is most like conservatives in America.


The NDP in Canada is nothing like the Republican Party in the US.

These are from the NDP platform
https://www.ndp.ca/commitments

For example, under 'affordability' this is their platform
https://www.ndp.ca/affordability
Medicine for all
Quality, affordable child care when you need it
Better services all Canadians can rely on
Making sure everyone can afford a place to call home
Making Employment Insurance work for you
Affordable post-secondary education for everyone
Affordable, quality cell phone service and high-speed broadband for all


Then there's the economy, the environment, the social compact, reconciliation, and communities.

I'm pretty sure US Republicans would take great issue with the vast majority of the Canadian NDP platform.

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Wednesday, June 16, 2021 2:24 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:

Yes, as we have been pointing out, the New Democrat Party in Canada is most like conservatives in America.
The NDP in Canada is nothing like the Republican Party in the US.

These are from the NDP platform
https://www.ndp.ca/commitments

For example, under 'affordability' this is their platform
https://www.ndp.ca/affordability
Medicine for all
Quality, affordable child care when you need it
Better services all Canadians can rely on
Making sure everyone can afford a place to call home
Making Employment Insurance work for you
Affordable post-secondary education for everyone
Affordable, quality cell phone service and high-speed broadband for all


Then there's the economy, the environment, the social compact, reconciliation, and communities.

I'm pretty sure US Republicans would take great issue with the vast majority of the Canadian NDP platform.

You seemed to have mentioned the "issues" that EVERY Party of Canada that I looked at has duplicated - when everybody is for something, then nobody is truly for it.

Are you claiming NDP are trying to destroy the economy of Canada?

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Wednesday, June 16, 2021 4:19 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Quote:

Are you claiming NDP are trying to destroy the economy of Canada?
You know, it's all for freebies for Canadians, so maybe they are! Why don't you go to the NDP platform and find out for yourself? The link is right there in my post.

Quote:

You seemed to have mentioned the "issues" that EVERY Party of Canada that I looked at has duplicated - when everybody is for something, then nobody is truly for it.
In fact, why not go the the platforms of all the major Canadian parties, link the websites, and pull out quotes to prove your claims?

I'll even make it easy!

NDP
https://www.ndp.ca/commitments

Liberal
https://liberal.ca/our-platform/

Conservative
https://www.conservative.ca/about-us/history-mission-statement/
But since their platform isn't found on their website, you can find it here:
https://ospe.on.ca/advocacy/2019-conservative-party-platform/

Parti Qebecois
https://pq.org/
You can "retrouve notre plan ici":
https://pq.org/urgence/

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Tuesday, August 10, 2021 6:52 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


It seems like you need a New Green Vaccination Passport between the US and Canada Border
the propaganda and fear may have damaged minds, added to suicides and depression, masked pedestrians you can watch the live youtube feeds and watch how people will jump in front of a car to avoid a possible Corona persopn or dodge away from you on the sidewalk.


Is there another Canada election or Lockdown Looming, why do I see names trend on social media like twitter?

Justin Trudeau's response to COVID-19 poses big problem for Erin O'Toole, Jagmeet Singh, and Yves-François Blanchet

https://www.straight.com/covid-19-pandemic/news/justin-trudeaus-respon
se-to-covid-19-poses-big-problem-for-erin-otoole-jagmeet-singh-and-yves


https://www.thestar.com/opinion/contributors/2021/07/27/vaccination-pa
ssports-are-torontos-best-way-to-avoid-more-lockdowns-so-why-is-no-one-doing-anything-about-it.html


https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/canada-just-surpassed-us-on-vacci
nations-good-for-them-shame-on-us
/

They have some strategy where they can call an early election?

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Tuesday, August 10, 2021 8:40 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
It seems like you need a New Green Vaccination Passport between the US and Canada Border
the propaganda and fear may have damaged minds, added to suicides and depression, masked pedestrians you can watch the live youtube feeds and watch how people will jump in front of a car to avoid a possible Corona persopn or dodge away from you on the sidewalk.



That's just Darwinism making a comeback.

Less morons breathing our air is a good thing.


Try TikTok if you want to see how dumb we've made our kids. It's really, really sad.

--------------------------------------------------

Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Tuesday, August 10, 2021 1:29 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:


They have some strategy where they can call an early election?



Trudeau's Liberals are a minority government which means if you look higher in this thread they didn't get enough votes to have complete control of Parliament.

Most Canadians don't want an election but some speculate that he is hoping to turn his minority into a majority by calling an election. It happened in a provincial election in the east and it happened in BC, last year. The NDP here got a majority government out of calling an early election.

Just have to see what way the winds blow in Ottawa.

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Tuesday, August 10, 2021 8:43 PM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I know. The Clintons over on this side of the border are insane.

Canada should probably build a wall to keep them out.

Do Right, Be Right. :)




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