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PC ran amok.

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Sunday, October 13, 2019 9:23 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Wocing clown fase Mnuchin defend Trump's betrayal uv the Kurdz this morning promted me to post a new How Stupid Are We article.

https://howstupidarewe.blog/2019/10/13/pc-backfired/

Summary: The left PC culture gets a chunk uv the blame for our current situation kuz they let the GoPs get away with spouting liez for way too long.

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Monday, October 14, 2019 12:28 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


As a lefty, I'd be much more worried about Generation Zed telling you all to fuck off.

Your future problem is that being Conservative going into the 2020's is the new counter-culture.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, October 14, 2019 1:59 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:


Summary: The left PC culture gets a chunk uv the blame for our current situation kuz they let the GoPs get away with spouting liez for way too long.



But when it's an EVERY DAY battle, who really gets ALL that blame??

I mean, do you know anyone that has a Rage Disorder? They get mad about EVERYTHING ALL DAY LONG, if you aren't telling them EXACTLY what they want to hear.
It's beyond exhausting. It's not something that is a livable situation for a rational person.

Hubby's father has one. It's the main reason hubby tried to hang himself at NINE. Luckily, nine year olds don't have much understanding of structural requirements...

When his father found out he broke the rod thinking hubby was playing around, he beat the crap out of him, btw... In 20 years of being together, I've only been really mad at him a few times because I know it gives him PTSD flashbacks of living with his parents. You save the anger for things that MEAN something.

I've never met a Dem that had a rage disorder. Seen plenty be mad about things, but not ALLLL DAY LONG... It would take a really unfortunate amount or re-wiring to program yourself to FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT every time they LIE LIE LIE, wouldn't it??


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Monday, October 14, 2019 4:29 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Wocing clown fase Mnuchin defend Trump's betrayal uv the Kurdz this morning promted me to post a new How Stupid Are We article.

https://howstupidarewe.blog/2019/10/13/pc-backfired/

Summary: The left PC culture gets a chunk uv the blame for our current situation kuz they let the GoPs get away with spouting liez for way too long.

We understand that you are easily confused, can't read/write American English, have Libtard delusions, and are computer illiterate.
Just ignore your PC and find an iFruit to use, then you won't have to worry your pretty little head about it.
As generations have known by now, Macs are for people who want to use a computer but don't know how to use a computer.

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Monday, October 14, 2019 11:11 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
But when it's an EVERY DAY battle, who really gets ALL that blame??

I mean, do you know anyone that has a Rage Disorder? They get mad about EVERYTHING ALL DAY LONG, if you aren't telling them EXACTLY what they want to hear.
It's beyond exhausting. It's not something that is a livable situation for a rational person.



Fair point. All the riteyz I know are eazily riled up. Its impossible to reazon with them.

A less raje prone wun actually replied to the article. Even tho he duznt boil over, he iz still completely immune to facts and lojik and feelz no shame for looking foolish.

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Monday, October 14, 2019 11:16 PM

JO753

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2 shay, JSF. In spite uv being stuk in the eko chamber, you do hav a good amount uv wit.

Just imajin how much smarter youd be if you lerned nooalf and bekam a Democrat!


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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 12:42 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:


Fair point. All the riteyz I know are eazily riled up. Its impossible to reazon with them.

A less raje prone wun actually replied to the article. Even tho he duznt boil over, he iz still completely immune to facts and lojik and feelz no shame for looking foolish.



There's a phrase I read years ago, but it was in regards to religion. It went something like..."Never underestimate how much validation or power a person gets from joining a group that tells them they are right all day long (and everyone else is a "libtard") when that person lacks the ability to validate themselves."

JSF is clearly not the brightest bulb here, but he gets to wank off over calling others a "tard".

He's never going to see the wool pulled over because being a card-carrying Republican means he doesn't have to think AND gets automatically validated.

It's a win-win for an inbred meat stack of a person...

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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 12:46 AM

WISHIMAY


Here, I'll do it for you.

Nilbog, Misery.

Now what you gonna do, I've stolen 99% of your material.

Yeah, I know. It hurts to think of anything else

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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 3:05 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


JO

as many times as I've read this, I have NO idea what the word is ... Wocing

woosing?
wooking?
wohsing?
wohking?
wahsing?
wahking?

Not being able to read your posts is one reason why I often skip past them!

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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:03 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
JO

as many times as I've read this, I have NO idea what the word is ... Wocing

woosing?
wooking?
wohsing?
wohking?
wahsing?
wahking?

Not being able to read your posts is one reason why I often skip past them!



Watching. Context. 140+?

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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:09 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I thought the point of NQaLF was to be able to read all the words without needing context.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:09 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Double post.

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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:29 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


There should never be a "c" in noalf afaict. Because it should either be an 's' or a 'k'. But if you're going to use letter combinations to stand for sounds, then 'watching' should be 'watshing'. Wacing is a completely invalid spelling in noalf because it uses a c and it's not even remotely phonetic.

So I'm going to wait for JO to either confirm the word or correct his spelling.

tic tac

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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:37 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

I mean, do you know anyone that has a Rage Disorder? They get mad about EVERYTHING ALL DAY LONG, if you aren't telling them EXACTLY what they want to hear.= WISHY


HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

DAMN, girl, but you are sometimes good for a big laugh!


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY

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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:40 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
2 shay, JSF. In spite uv being stuk in the eko chamber, you do hav a good amount uv wit. Just imajin how much smarter youd be if you lerned nooalf and bekam a Democrat!

Oh, you mean being "smart? like you?

No thanks, I'll pass!!!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY

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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:56 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I agree about the Nooalf "spelling" problem ... it's inconsistent with well-known English language letter combinations and worse, it's inconsitent with itself.

Take the word "yirz". The "i" is Nooalf is used as a "short i" (iz), a "semi-long i" AND a "short i" in the same word! (riting), and ... even more confusingly ... a "long e" (yirz). While I think that Inglish shood bee fohnetik, Nooalf duzn't eevn kum klohs.





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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY

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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 10:09 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
There should never be a "c" in noalf afaict. Because it should either be an 's' or a 'k'. But if you're going to use letter combinations to stand for sounds, then 'watching' should be 'watshing'. Wacing is a completely invalid spelling in noalf because it uses a c and it's not even remotely phonetic.

So I'm going to wait for JO to either confirm the word or correct his spelling.

tic tac




I think what possibly makes it hard is the limited character set afforded at FFF.net.

If you look at the NQaLF, or NOOALF site, there's a ton of characters that are used there that you're not going to find on a keyboard (and very doubtful that many of them are even in the ASCII set). It almost looks like the Cyrillic characters at a quick glance. So when JO's posting here, it's almost as if he's posting in a third hybrid language.


Interestingly though, when looking at the Poster on the PRoDUKS page, "W" is for Witch... spelled "WIC". I don't know how that would be spelled with the full arsenal of alternate characters available to you, but from what I can tell of that small picture of the poster, it seems to use only characters available in the English alphabet when showing the pronunciations of the words. "C" would be the "tch" sound both in witch and watch.

I'm assuming that the "O" in wocing is the "a" in watching, but I can't tell anything from that poster to confirm that. I do, however, see an "O" in Shark (SORK), and that leads me to more confusion in this issue.




Awwww.... I just noticed something else. Is that a picture of JO himself for an example of UGLE?

You're a nice guy, JO. Plenty of people far worse looking than you out there in the world man. We can't all be Tom Cruise.

Great sense of humor you've got there though.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 10:11 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
There should never be a "c" in noalf afaict. Because it should either be an 's' or a 'k'. But if you're going to use letter combinations to stand for sounds, then 'watching' should be 'watshing'. Wacing is a completely invalid spelling in noalf because it uses a c and it's not even remotely phonetic.

So I'm going to wait for JO to either confirm the word or correct his spelling.

tic tac




I think what possibly makes it hard is the limited character set afforded at FFF.net.

If you look at the NQaLF, or NOOALF site, there's a ton of characters that are used there that you're not going to find on a keyboard (and very doubtful that many of them are even in the ASCII set). It almost looks like the Cyrillic characters at a quick glance. So when JO's posting here, it's almost as if he's posting in a third hybrid language.


Interestingly though, when looking at the Poster on the PRoDUKS page, "W" is for Witch... spelled "WIC". I don't know how that would be spelled with the full arsenal of alternate characters available to you, but from what I can tell of that small picture of the poster, it seems to use only characters available in the English alphabet when showing the pronunciations of the words. "C" would be the "tch" sound both in witch and watch. (Wic, Woc)

I'm assuming that the "O" in wocing is the "a" in watching, but I can't tell anything from that poster to confirm that. I do, however, see an "O" in Shark (SORK), and that leads me to more confusion in this issue. Even if "S" is for "Sh", because you need to account for the "h" in shark, the "a" in shark and watch are different, so the use of "O" for both is confusing to me.




Awwww.... I just noticed something else. Is that a picture of JO himself for an example of UGLE?

You're a nice guy, JO. Plenty of people far worse looking than you out there in the world man. We can't all be Tom Cruise.

Great sense of humor you've got there though.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 10:28 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


If you look in any dikshunaree you'll see a pronunciation guide with all kinds of special characters like upside down "e" etc which tracks all of the sounds of the English language, so if you're going to resort to special characters why not just go with what's already been established?

BTW ... KIKI ... many people have said that phonetic language won't work because of the various accents around the world but ... how does that work with the pronunciation guides, then? Is there a different edition for Ozzie-speak than there is for Singapore-speak or Chicago-speak?


Anyway, alternatively, just like with other (phonetic) languages, you can use known letter combinations to indicate specific sounds, and that would be my preference since it wouldn't require a whole new typography and a whole new generation of teaching.

But as I just posted, JO's language is not only inconsistent with known English-language letter combinations, it's inconsistent with itself. (iz, riting, yirz). He recreates the same problem that he's trying to solve.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY

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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 11:09 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Wocing clown fase Mnuchin defend Trump's betrayal uv the Kurdz this morning promted me to post a new How Stupid Are We article.

https://howstupidarewe.blog/2019/10/13/pc-backfired/

Summary: The left PC culture gets a chunk uv the blame for our current situation kuz they let the GoPs get away with spouting liez for way too long.



That's quite a link JO.

T



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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 2:10 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I don't think consonants are that bad when it comes to spelling. There's only a few that don't have good representations, like the g in judge, which is pronounced like a soft z. A ... whaaaaa ..?? It's not even a concept in English I ever ran across, though one other language that I know of has three different hardnesses of z all recognized in its alphabet (as a z, a z with one dot above it, and a z with two dots above it).

But the vowels. Ayyyy, those vowels!

As for accents and phonetics ... here's a joke, which was told as a true story. So a guy goes into a restaurant in the south and the waitress is trying to tell him what the potato side is, with no success. Exasperated he finally spells it out - do you mean you have b.a.l.l.e.d potatoes, or b.a.l.d. potatoes? And she says NO! they're B.O.I.L.E.D potatoes!

Anyway, European languages are phonetic and they still manage to have dialects and variable accents! I was at my local restaurant when a couple was speaking in some foreign language I really couldn't identify. I swear it sounded like some Slavic tongue. But it was New Orleans French. I know French somewhat, and I could NOT pick up a single word! but it was the accent that really threw me.

So, we've already decided what the correct pronunciations are (in the dictionary), but if we ever get around to phonetic spelling I don't think it's going to change anyone's accent too much. I'm guessing for them what we think of as phonetic spelling will just be some version of non-phonetic spelling that they'll just get accustomed to.

We already have good examples of that. Bostonians drop the last "r" - so car becomes cah, and chowder becomes chowdah - even though it clearly exists in the spelling and they can say that sound everywhere else!

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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 3:19 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:


HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

DAMN, girl, but you are sometimes good for a big laugh!




EVERYONE should be angry with your lies, propaganda, and bullshit.

Unfortunately, there are some really amazing dip shits here, and out there in the real world.

Doing my best to fix 'em

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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 3:19 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:


Watching. Context. 140+?



Beat me to it

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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 3:31 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:


HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

DAMN, girl, but you are sometimes good for a big laugh!




EVERYONE should be angry with your lies, propaganda, and bullshit.

Unfortunately, there are some really amazing dip shits here, and out there in the real world.

Doing my best to fix 'em



I couldn't agree more wish. The thing is that they don't realize, because it would be too painful for them to admit, that anyone who in not a troll see's what she posts as anything other than trolling.

T



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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:32 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
2 shay, JSF.

Just imajin how much smarter youd be if you ..... bekam a Democrat!

Too late.
I already was a Democrat. But then I opened my eyes, woke up, engaged with Reality, grew up, and learned from my mistakes. Which made me a Conservative. I could suggest you follow the pattern, but then you would no longer be able to drape yourself in your revered Liberal cloak.

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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:40 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
That's quite a link JO.



xanks, THG.

& xanks for klqing in 1KIKI, CC. its gud tu no xat we kan rit 'sekrit' mesijiz in plan sit her kuz he kant red nqalf!

its od, kunsidrring rusin iz vere fonetik.

Siggy, you need to read the older karakter notes. 'Signym' commented extensively on Nooalf in many other thredz, including 1 about the Nooalf Revolution website.

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Wednesday, October 16, 2019 7:45 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

I already was a Democrat. But then I ...woke up with a brain injury and lost the ability to think straight. Oh, and decided to become an Amish level prude snowflake out of embarrassment because no one wants to come near me anyway. So, now I correct spelling on the internet when I want to feel special.




Did I miss anything??


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Wednesday, October 16, 2019 9:01 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
klqing

Still not foenehtik

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Thursday, October 17, 2019 5:15 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


So JO, I know I mentioned that I was very much in favor of phonetic English after watching my husband's family's difficulty learning it as a second language, and watching our daughter's difficulty learning how to read. The problem with learning English is that you're learning the spelling rules of at least three different languages.

Plus, as I said before, I think we spend so much time on the quirks of english language that it takes away from math and science, which may explain our crappy science and math scores

But I disagree with the way you propose to change it. There are some letter combinations that we automatically know how to pronounce, like "ee" being a long e, so I would favor using letter combinations that are intuitive ... or more intuitive anyway .... than resorting to new letters and unqiue uses of old letters. for example, as a rule I would say that all single vowels are pronounced with the short vowel sound, and that the long vowels be written as "ay", "ee", "iy", "oh" and "yu". I know there are a lot more vowel sounds than that, and I don't want to get involved in polishing an idea that will go nowhere, so I'll just simply agree that phonetic English would be a great idea and if it ever looks like it might come to pass we can hash out the details later.



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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY

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