Trump is not a sociopath or a narcissist, he has ADHD. Get over it. by SIGNYM

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Trump is not a sociopath or a narcissist, he has ADHD. Get over it.

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Tuesday, October 22, 2019 5:58 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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You have mentioned a drinking game each time I bring up "war". I'll start a drinking game of my own:

I challenge you, WISHY, to post twenty on-topic/ on-point posts without once threatening violence or genocide or personally attacking people. Let's see how well you do.

Impossible. This is not in her programming.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Oh, I'd never start this drinking game unless I had time to kill and was looking to get blotto.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY

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Tuesday, October 22, 2019 7:18 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Seriously, SLOPPY, if that's the worst you can come up with it's penny ante stuff compared to the crap that Obama and GWB did.

This happened today with Trump: William Taylor, the top US diplomat in Ukraine, used his opening statement in testimony for the congressional impeachment inquiry on Tuesday to say that there was, indeed, a quid pro quo. What’s more, President Donald Trump knew all about it and even ordered it.

Trump screamed that he was being lynched. Poor baby.

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/10/22/20927561/bill-taylor-ukrain
e-impeachment-statement-full-text

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Tuesday, October 22, 2019 8:02 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

By mid-July it was becoming clear to me that the meeting President Zelenskyy wanted was conditioned on the investigations of Burisma which Britain had been investigating but dropped due to lack of cooperation from Ukraine and alleged Ukrainian interference in the 2016 U.S. elections. If the US is looking into investigating if Ukraine had interfered with the elections (and there's plenty of evidence they interfered at a minimum with the Trump WH), asking for an investigation would have been a completely legitimate request. Also, there was no mention of either Biden.

In the same July 19 phone call, they gave me an account of the July 10 meeting with the Ukrainian officials at the White House. Specifically, they told me that Ambassador Sondland had connected “investigations” with an Oval Office meeting for President Zelenskyy, which so irritated Ambassador Bolton that he abruptly ended the meeting ... Dr. Hill said that Ambassador Bolton referred to this as a “drug deal” after the July 10 meeting. It's pretty obvious Bolton was the 'source' for the CIA operative's 'whistleblower' complaint. It's also pretty obvious Bolton wanted to conduct his own policies.

On July 25, President Trump and President Zelenskyy had the long-awaited phone conversation. We've all seen what is as close to a transcript as possible given how the process operates, and it's a big nothing-burger.

During a previously planned July 26 meeting, President Zelenskyy told Ambassador Volker and me that he was happy with the call but did not elaborate.

On August 16, I exchanged text messages with Ambassador Volker in which I learned that Mr. Yeriak had asked that the United States submit an official request for an investigation into Burisma’s alleged violations of Ukrainian law, if that is what the United States desired.

BTW, an entire 17 pages and not a single mention of either Biden.

https://docs.google.com/viewerng/viewer?url=https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/up
loads/chorus_asset/file/19310996/Bill_Taylor_testimony.pdf

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

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Tuesday, October 22, 2019 8:04 PM

lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, October 23, 2019 8:31 AM

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Definitely not ADHD:

"He read my phone call with the President of Ukraine," Trump said at the time. "Mitch McConnell, he said, 'That was the most innocent phone call that I've read.' I mean, give me a break. Anybody that reads it says the same thing."

McConnell, asked at his weekly news conference in the Capitol if he believed the President handled the Ukrainian situation perfectly, said, "We've not had any conversations on that subject."

When pushed on whether Trump was lying about an exchange between the pair, the Kentucky Republican responded, "You have to ask him. I don't recall any conversations with the President about that phone call."

McConnell's staff has declined to verify if Trump's claims were valid.

www.cnn.com/2019/10/22/politics/mcconnell-denies-trump-call-ukraine-pe
rfect/index.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, October 23, 2019 9:16 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

And there is SLOPPY, digging in the weeds for any crap that he can find since his latest bullshit launch was shot down.

Hey, WE GET that Trump tweets intemperate things! That's why I brought up the kid who shoutEd YANNO WHAT? YANNO WHAT? A hundred times or more in a four-hour period! I know what that's like!

Does it not bother you that your thinking is so driven to a single point that you just HAVE to keep "proving" something over and over again? I mean, if anyone related to your business saw how obssessed you were about Trumo specifically and Republicans in general, they would back away slowly from dealing with you because your obsession is a sign of an unbalanced mind, and bad for business!

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Wednesday, October 23, 2019 9:34 AM

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Does it not bother you that your thinking is so driven to a single point that you just HAVE to keep "proving" something over and over again? I mean, if anyone related to your business saw how obssessed you were about Trumo specifically and Republicans in general, they would back away slowly from dealing with you because your obsession is a sign of an unbalanced mind, and bad for business!

In the real world I have many hyper-effective ways to change minds, but at fireflyfans none of those ways are possible. That does not matter because there is nothing for me to gain at fireflyfans, which is a good imitation of politics. People take a position in Congress, they stubbornly hold it despite evidence they need to change, voters keep returning the same people to Congress every two years, and they cause Congress to malfunction. Maybe voters have ADHD?

If Republicans and Trump and Signym want to keep on pretending that the following didn’t happen, I suppose there’s no way to make them stop. Maybe they have ADHD? But obviously it happened. The evidence is overwhelming:

Bill Taylor, our ambassador to Ukraine—i.e., our actual ambassador, not one of the many hangers-on who screwed around there like callow children—testified before Congress that, hell yes, President Trump held up aid to Ukraine until they agreed to investigate Joe Biden’s son:

In a 15-page opening statement, obtained by The Washington Post, Taylor repeatedly expressed his shock and bewilderment as he watched U.S. policy toward Ukraine get overtaken by Trump’s demand that newly elected president Volodymyr Zelensky “go to a microphone and say he is opening investigations of [Democratic presidential candidate Joe] Biden and 2016 election interference.”

“ ‘Everything’ was dependent on such an announcement, including security assistance,” Taylor said he was told by Gordon Sondland, U.S. ambassador to the European Union.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, October 23, 2019 9:36 AM

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In the real world I have many hyper-effective ways to change minds, but at fireflyfans none of those ways are possible.

ie: We don't work for Second, so he can't threaten to fire us for not agreeing with him on everything.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, October 23, 2019 9:49 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by second:
In the real world I have many hyper-effective ways to change minds, but at fireflyfans none of those ways are possible.

ie: We don't work for Second, so he can't threaten to fire us for not agreeing with him on everything.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

If everything is a debate, as it now is in Congress, nothing gets done when there are multiple contradictory views, except for the sneaky things suggested by lobbyists. Once upon a time, Congressmen would trade favors between the states to get things done. If you vote for this bill benefiting Texas, I will vote for the bill benefiting California. But horsetrading has completely fallen out of favor. Now the only exchange between Congressmen from different states is words, not money. Before the Civil War, Congress fell into the same habit of today, talk-talk-talk followed by more talk. That ended with a war. I think the exchange of money between states is the better idea, an idea that worked fairly well for 100 years after the Civil War.

There is a third way, other than money or endless talk: One political party achieves a crushing majority in Congress. The Democrats got crushed by the Civil War. The GOP got crushed thanks to Herbert Hoover. Maybe the GOP will get crushed thanks to Trump. But it will only be temporary because the worst Trump could do is not as damaging as Hoover and the GOP controlled Congress's non-performance during the Great Depression.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, October 23, 2019 10:03 AM

... stay crunchy...

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By mid-July it was becoming clear to me that the meeting President Zelenskyy wanted was conditioned on the investigations of Burisma which Britain had been investigating but dropped due to lack of cooperation from Ukraine and alleged Ukrainian interference in the 2016 U.S. elections. If the US is looking into investigating if Ukraine had interfered with the elections (and there's plenty of evidence they interfered at a minimum with the Trump WH), asking for an investigation would have been a completely legitimate request. Also, there was no mention of either Biden.

In the same July 19 phone call, they gave me an account of the July 10 meeting with the Ukrainian officials at the White House. Specifically, they told me that Ambassador Sondland had connected “investigations” with an Oval Office meeting for President Zelenskyy, which so irritated Ambassador Bolton that he abruptly ended the meeting ... Dr. Hill said that Ambassador Bolton referred to this as a “drug deal” after the July 10 meeting. It's pretty obvious Bolton was the 'source' for the CIA operative's 'whistleblower' complaint. It's also pretty obvious Bolton wanted to conduct his own policies.

On July 25, President Trump and President Zelenskyy had the long-awaited phone conversation. We've all seen what is as close to a transcript as possible given how the process operates, and it's a big nothing-burger.

During a previously planned July 26 meeting, President Zelenskyy told Ambassador Volker and me that he was happy with the call but did not elaborate.

On August 16, I exchanged text messages with Ambassador Volker in which I learned that Mr. Yeriak had asked that the United States submit an official request for an investigation into Burisma’s alleged violations of Ukrainian law, if that is what the United States desired.

BTW, an entire 17 pages and not a single mention of either Biden.

https://docs.google.com/viewerng/viewer?url=https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/up
loads/chorus_asset/file/19310996/Bill_Taylor_testimony.pdf

lol

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Wednesday, October 23, 2019 10:43 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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In the real world I have many hyper-effective ways to change minds, but at fireflyfans none of those ways are possible.

ie: We don't work for Second, so he can't threaten to fire us for not agreeing with him on everything.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

And we don't live nearby, so he can't threaten to shoot us, or have his minions have a little "conversation" with us in a parking lot.

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Wednesday, October 23, 2019 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
In the real world I have many hyper-effective ways to change minds, but at fireflyfans none of those ways are possible.

ie: We don't work for Second, so he can't threaten to fire us for not agreeing with him on everything.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
And we don't live nearby, so he can't threaten to shoot us.

Yup. Second is one of those "guns for me, but not for thee" rich Democrats.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, October 23, 2019 11:47 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

So I was reading Taylor's statement,and the first thing I noticed is where he was active: the military in Vietnam, DOE, NATO, Afghanistan, Iraq, Israel, Ukraine ... and I thought ... wow, what a force for peace this guy is!!! [/snark] His bio just screams "deep state" and "regime change maestro" and I believe that he would have extreme policy differences with Trump about Ukraine, and would want to push HIS policy thru at any cost.

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Our national security demands that this relationship [with Ukraine] remains strong Oh, gag me with a spoon. Our national security does NOT depend on some corrupt backwater eastern European nation!

Having read the statement closely, it is clear to me that Taylor has NO FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE of the events he's testyfying about ("quid pro quo"). For example, there's a big buildup about a mysterious phone conversation with Zelinskiy and yet, when you read Taylor's summary of the content (energy policy and the Stanystya-Lhanska bridge) it turns out to be a nothing-burger.

As I read further, I see that he wasn't in on any of the meetings and that what he is transmitting is "hearsay" ... what has been told to him.

Other parts of his statement contain such shocking untruths ("more Ukrainians would undoubtedly die without the U.S. assistance" when it is the US assistance that is allowing Kiev to kill civilians in eastern Ukrainian) that I have to conclude that Taylor is a either a bald-faced liar or so biased that reality doesn't sink in.

The person who seems to be the source of most of Taylor's information is Sondland, either directly or via Morrison. So swim upstream to the source, I say.

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Wednesday, October 23, 2019 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
In the real world I have many hyper-effective ways to change minds, but at fireflyfans none of those ways are possible.

ie: We don't work for Second, so he can't threaten to fire us for not agreeing with him on everything.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
And we don't live nearby, so he can't threaten to shoot us.

Yup. Second is one of those "guns for me, but not for thee" rich Democrats.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I like to think of myself as that rich oilman on the Simpsons, the one that shoots his guns into the air, except I never wear cowboy boots or a ten-gallon hat nor am I short and fat. But other than those and a thousand other ways, exactly like the Simpsons oil man.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, October 23, 2019 2:41 PM

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President Trump on Wednesday excoriated so-called Never Trump Republicans as "human scum" as he seeks to solidify Republican support of him amid an ongoing impeachment inquiry.

"The Never Trumper Republicans, though on respirators with not many left, are in certain ways worse and more dangerous for our Country than the Do Nothing Democrats," Trump tweeted. "Watch out for them, they are human scum!"

It's unclear what led president to target Republicans who are critical of him. Perhaps ADHD? Perhaps STUPIDITY? But for whatever reason, Trump ought to take the criticism seriously and change his ways.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/467131-trump-blasts-never-
trump-republicans-as-human-scum

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Wednesday, October 23, 2019 2:57 PM

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Trump’s ‘lynching’ comparison shows there’s no bottom to his sense of victimhood

President Trump apparently fears an impeachment could be so destructive to his presidency that he has frequently described it in terms of an epic injustice, taking that habit to a new level Tuesday by calling the impeachment efforts a “lynching.” And in doing so, the president has solidified the perception that he is completely insensitive to the United States’ history of racism and violence.

“So some day, if a Democrat becomes President and the Republicans win the House, even by a tiny margin, they can impeach the President, without due process or fairness or any legal rights,” he tweeted Tuesday. “All Republicans must remember what they are witnessing here — a lynching. But we will WIN!”

As the impeachment inquiry in the House barrels forward, his embrace of victimhood grows more pronounced.

Trump’s continued use of language that many black Americans find offensive is not because of ignorance. It is because to Trump, no one has endured more injustice than him.

More at https://attentiontotheunseen.com/2019/10/22/trumps-lynching-comparison
-shows-theres-no-bottom-to-his-sense-of-victimhood/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, October 23, 2019 2:59 PM

blah, blah, blah...

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, October 23, 2019 3:18 PM

... stay crunchy...

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So I was reading Taylor's statement,and the first thing I noticed is where he was active: the military in Vietnam, DOE, NATO, Afghanistan, Iraq, Israel, Ukraine ... and I thought ... wow, what a force for peace this guy is!!! [/snark] His bio just screams "deep state" and "regime change maestro" ...

Is that why he was picked by Pompeo? Is Pompeo the whistle blower???

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and I believe that he would have extreme policy differences with Trump about Ukraine, and would want to push HIS policy thru at any cost.

By "any cost" do you mean him threatening... to retire?

Nice to see you back to being a complete and utter clown again.

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Wednesday, October 23, 2019 3:36 PM

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blah, blah, blah...

Do Right, Be Right. :)

President Donald Trump said he would postpone tariffs on some Chinese goods, and the S&P index moved to 3016, or up 47 points since the fortunate person bought the 82,000 e-minis just before the market closed on September 10. Since a one-point movement, up or down, in an e-mini contract is worth $50, a 47-point movement up in a day was worth $2,350 per contract. If you were the lucky one who bought the 82,000 e-mini contracts, well, then you were sitting on a one-day profit of roughly $190 million.

“There Is Definite Hanky-Panky Going On”: The Fantastically Profitable Mystery of the Trump Chaos Trades

The president’s talk can move markets — and it’s made some futures traders billions. Did they know what he was going to say before he said it? We will never get Trump to admit he told the traders, nor will the traders admit learning what Trump had not yet announced.

www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/10/the-mystery-of-the-trump-chaos-trades

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Wednesday, October 23, 2019 3:46 PM

Jealous, much?

Not rich enough to be in that club.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, October 23, 2019 5:51 PM

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Jealous, much?

Not rich enough to be in that club.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

A single Trump lie briefly inflated domestic markets by hundreds of billions of dollars. “What this describes is, quite literally, market manipulation that constitutes criminal violations of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934,” commented George Conway.

Whether Conway is right or wrong is a matter of legal opinion, but given how fishy and coincidental the trading in e-minis seems to be these days, the SEC or CFTC would be doing a great service (and their job) for the American people by investigating who is behind these lucrative trades, and what they knew before they placed them. At the moment, what we’re getting from them is an indifferent shrug. They are Trump's appointees. Maybe they, too, have ADHD?

www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/10/the-mystery-of-the-trump-chaos-trades

There is something definitely rotten going on in financial markets and it reeks of manipulation. President Trump, and authorities in Beijing to the same extent, understand that all it takes to spark a rally or cause the market to dump is a single tweet.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, October 23, 2019 6:18 PM

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Jealous, much?

Not rich enough to be in that club.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
A single Trump lie briefly inflated domestic markets by hundreds of billions of dollars. “What this describes is, quite literally, market manipulation that constitutes criminal violations of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934,” commented George Conway.

Whether Conway is right or wrong is a matter of legal opinion, but given how fishy and coincidental the trading in e-minis seems to be these days, the SEC or CFTC would be doing a great service (and their job) for the American people by investigating who is behind these lucrative trades, and what they knew before they placed them. At the moment, what we’re getting from them is an indifferent shrug. They are Trump's appointees. Maybe they, too, have ADHD?

www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/10/the-mystery-of-the-trump-chaos-trades

There is something definitely rotten going on in financial markets and it reeks of manipulation. President Trump, and authorities in Beijing to the same extent, understand that all it takes to spark a rally or cause the market to dump is a single tweet.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Too bad you learned about it after the fact. Guess you know better next time, huh?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, October 23, 2019 6:48 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

"President Trump, and authorities in Beijing to the same extent, understand that all it takes to spark a rally or cause the market to dump is a single tweet."

Well, that's what happens the market's not based on actual value, but it IS based on speculation, and all it's blown up into weightless froth with interest-free money available to large-money institutions.

Which, as Jack pointed out, is not you.

And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?

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Wednesday, October 23, 2019 7:02 PM

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"President Trump, and authorities in Beijing to the same extent, understand that all it takes to spark a rally or cause the market to dump is a single tweet."

Well, that's what happens the market's not based on actual value, but it IS based on speculation, and all it's blown up into weightless froth with interest-free money available to large-money institutions.

Which, as Jack pointed out, is not you.

And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?

Did you know that even if Trump was manipulating the stock market for his profit, it is legal? Which makes it very likely Trump is profiting:

Trump’s lawyer just told a federal appeals court that a sitting president is above the law.

President Trump’s lawyer argued in court on Wednesday that he should, as president, be immune from criminal prosecution — even if he murders someone in broad daylight with a gun.

The argument was made as part of Trump v. Vance, a case asking whether Manhattan prosecutors can subpoena Trump’s tax records as part of an ongoing criminal investigation. In the case, as Judge Victor Marrero explained in an opinion, Trump’s lawyers argued that “the person who serves as President, while in office, enjoys absolute immunity from criminal process of any kind.” (Marrero rejected that argument.)

On Wednesday, the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit heard Trump’s appeal of Marrero’s decision. During that hearing, Trump lawyer William Consovoy confirmed just how far his argument goes. In response to a question by appellate Judge Denny Chin, Consovoy argued that Trump is immune from criminal investigation even if he were to shoot someone on Manhattan’s Fifth Avenue. Trump's lawyers did not use the example of stock market manipulation, but when the case goes to the Supreme Court, that would be an excellent example to persuade the Justices of how wonderful Trump is! Blame ADHD, rather than GREED!

More at www.vox.com/2019/10/23/20928680/nothing-could-be-done-trump-fifth-aven
ue-immunity-mazars-vance

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Wednesday, October 23, 2019 7:13 PM

Remember the good old days when a year out from the General election, the non-incumbent side was actually arguing why their policy and ideas were better for the country going forward.

lol

#MeToo

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Wednesday, October 23, 2019 7:48 PM

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Remember the good old days when a year out from the General election, the non-incumbent side was actually arguing why their policy and ideas were better for the country going forward.

lol

#MeToo

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You have not been paying attention to https://peteforamerica.com/issues/ because you already rejected EVERY POSSIBLE SOLUTION EXCEPT THE GOP SOLUTIONS, which leaves Trump as your only solution. But if Trump has ADHD or he is simply incompetent or he is a crook, he is no solution for what ails you, leaving you with nothing.

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Wednesday, October 23, 2019 7:58 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Remember the good old days when a year out from the General election, the non-incumbent side was actually arguing why their policy and ideas were better for the country going forward.

lol

#MeToo

Do Right, Be Right. :)
You have not been paying attention to https://peteforamerica.com/issues/ because you already rejected EVERY POSSIBLE SOLUTION EXCEPT THE GOP SOLUTIONS, which leaves Trump as your only solution. But if Trump has ADHD or he is simply incompetent or he is a crook, he is no solution for what ails you, leaving you with nothing.

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I've said since the beginning that Bootyjudge is the only one up there who has a chance of beating Trump, but you idiots aren't even going to give yourselves that chance.

That being said, half of what he's got on his issues page is still ridiculous and he'd have to purge that half right after he won the Primary or Trump is going to eat him alive too.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, October 23, 2019 8:05 PM

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, October 24, 2019 6:40 AM

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"Inside Trump's First Pentagon Briefing"
What I saw there that foretold today's foreign policy crises.

The clash came in the middle of Trump’s first Pentagon briefing on America’s military and diplomatic “laydown”—a term of art used to describe all of the locations around the world with U.S. forces and embassies—on July 20, 2017. Mattis, for whom I was working as chief speechwriter, had hoped the briefing would educate Trump on the United States’ longstanding commitment to the rest of the world. That is not at all what happened.

Instead, the president burst out in the middle of the meeting.

“I just returned from France,” he said. “Did you see President Macron’s handshake?” he asked no one in particular. “He wouldn’t let go. He just kept holding on. I spent two hours at Bastille Day. Very impressive.”

A pause.

“I want a ‘Victory Day.’ Just like Veterans Day. The Fourth of July is too hot,” he said, apparently out of nowhere. “I want vehicles and tanks on Main Street. On Pennsylvania Avenue, from the Capitol to the White House. We need spirit! We should blow everybody away with this parade. The French had an amazing parade on Bastille Day with tanks and everything. Why can’t we do that?”

Those of us in the control room linked to the Pentagon conference room shifted uncomfortably, shooting glances at each other. Where was this going? We’d opened the control room door 30 minutes before to improve air flow. A Secret Service agent poked his head in, apparently uncomfortable with the conversation and the light it cast on the president. “Hey,” he asked, “do you guys need to still be in here?”

More at www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/10/21/inside-trumps-first-pentago
n-briefing-229865

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Thursday, October 24, 2019 6:54 AM

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"Inside Trump's First Pentagon Briefing"
What I saw there that foretold today's foreign policy crises.

Trump veered from topic to topic — Syria, Mexico, a recent Washington Post story he didn’t like — like a squirrel caught in traffic, dashing one way and then another.

The issues were complicated, yet all of the president’s answers were simplistic and ad hoc. He was shooting from the hip on issues of global importance.

With that, the meeting ended.

I learned an important lesson that would pay off when Trump returned for a briefing the following January: only use slides with pictures … no words.

More at www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/10/21/inside-trumps-first-pentago
n-briefing-229865

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Thursday, October 24, 2019 7:15 AM

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Trump could shoot someone, and police couldn’t investigate it, his lawyer says

President Trump famously said during the 2016 campaign that he could shoot somebody on 5th Avenue in New York, and he wouldn’t lose any voters.

Apparently, if his lawyer is to be believed, he wouldn’t go to jail, either.

William Consovoy, while arguing against a subpoena of the Trump’s tax returns on Wednesday in the U.S. Second Circuit Court of Appeals in New York, made the case that immunity for the president extends to the entire criminal justice process. If the lawyer got this idea from Trump, that would explain most of Trump's odd behavior toward the media, which believes a President is NOT immune. The President and the media have completely conflicting views of the Presidency.

www.marketwatch.com/story/president-trump-could-shoot-someone-and-he-w
ouldnt-go-to-jail-lawyer-says-2019-10-23

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Thursday, October 24, 2019 9:55 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

So, you're not in control of your own responses? You can't have a rational discussion without bringing up worldwide genocide? What? Logic and facts fail you, and all you have is violence?

I challenge you, WISHY, to post twenty on-topic/ on-point posts without once threatening violence or genocide or personally attacking people. Let's see how well you do.

You might wanna buy another bottle...the first round in this drinking game is DEFINITELY ON ME!

100 MILLION people. Famine, war, death squads. All you two can think is "LET'S DO THAT AGAIN!" and then....LOGIC....REASON.....FACTS??????

You know, I think the reason you are always trying to downplay anything racist is because you are the most racist piece of trash on this planet. I think all the Communist crap is really about getting rid of certain colors and kinds of people. You see that as a "solution".
Either turn them into slaves of the state, or get rid of them, right?
It's why you freaked out in that thread where I mentioned we are all inbred and we all have inborn race-specific negative genetic traits, right? You really do see some people as inferior, don't you??

I'd like to actually thank you two. You have given me context. I now see the alt-right as just low-IQ low-EQ knuckle-draggers...

BUT YOU TWO ARE THE BIGGEST NUTS

I'VE EVER MET. It's not often you come across two super-villains.

Your real agendas are such epic stank that you can't say them out loud because you know what it sounds like and looks like and tastes like.

You ever say it out loud to yourself?

I challenge YOU to ONE...HONEST...POST.

Just one time, put into words what your REAL goals are here, and for the planet.
No subterfuge, no deflection, no manipulation. No buzz words.

Never mind, I know you aren't capable.

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Thursday, October 24, 2019 11:06 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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So, you're not in control of your own responses? You can't have a rational discussion without bringing up worldwide genocide? What? Logic and facts fail you, and all you have is violence?
I challenge you, WISHY, to post twenty on-topic/ on-point posts without once threatening violence or genocide or personally attacking people. Let's see how well you do.- SIGNY

You might wanna buy another bottle...the first round in this drinking game is DEFINITELY ON ME!

I guess I'll have to save this shot (1) for later. I gotta drive in a few minutes.

Quote:
100 MILLION people. Famine, war, death squads. All you two can think is "LET'S DO THAT AGAIN!" (2)

HUH??
I'm the one who is always posting Let's NOT go to war! Let's NOT kill more brown people! YOU'RE the one who's always posting about killing people.

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LOGIC....REASON.....FACTS??????- WISHY

Indeed. Where are yours?

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You know, I think the reason you are always trying to downplay anything racist is because you are the most racist piece of trash on this planet. (3) I think all the Communist crap is really about getting rid of certain colors and kinds of people. You see that as a "solution". - WISHY

Wow, you have really gone off your rocker, haven't you? I have posted quite often that I know racism still exists, have pointed to studies done by various agencies and institutes where "test couples" and "test individuals" who are alike in every way except color are sent to apply for jobs/ rent apartments/ buy houses/ repair cars/ get loans and are treated differently, just because of color. But my solution isn't reverse racism - because that's just MORE racism, right? - but true meritocracy. Yanno, achieve the long-promised ideal of equal opportunity and equal reward for equal merit. That goes for gender too.

I just don't see Nazis behind every bush, like you do.

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Either turn them into slaves of the state, or get rid of them, right?- (4) WISHY

WTF? I'M the one who posts about less-centralized government. YOU'RE the one who's always proposing "getting rid of" people.
It's people like Ocasio-Cortez who wants big daddy government in every nook and cranny of your life. Just look at her Green New Deal! If you want to see a "communist" (or what you think a "communist is) go look at her!

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It's why you freaked out in that thread where I mentioned we are all inbred and we all have inborn race-specific negative genetic traits, right? You really do see some people as inferior, don't you?? (5) - WISHY

ANOTHER WTF???

Given how you apparently misinterpret, mis-remember, and mis-state pretty much everything I've ever posted ... LINKS, or it hasn't happened.

Quote:
I'd like to actually thank you two. You have given me context. I now see the alt-right as just low-IQ low-EQ knuckle-draggers... (6)
BUT YOU TWO ARE THE BIGGEST NUTS I'VE EVER MET. (7) It's not often you come across two super-villains. (8)
Your real agendas are such epic stank that you can't say them out loud because you know what it sounds like and looks like and tastes like. (9)
You ever say it out loud to yourself?
I challenge YOU to ONE...HONEST...POST.

Just one time, put into words what your REAL goals are here, and for the planet.
No subterfuge, no deflection, no manipulation. No buzz words.

Never mind, I know you aren't capable. (10)
(11)

Jimminy, WISHY, I don't think my liver can keep up with all the bile and idiocy that you post.
I can't imagine what YOU imagine my so-called "real" agenda is. I know that YOUR real agenda is all about hate and anger and killing people tho. You've made that abundantly clear!

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Thursday, October 24, 2019 1:51 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

You can't have a rational discussion without bringing up worldwide genocide?

What?

100 MILLION people. Famine, war, death squads. All you two can think is "LET'S DO THAT AGAIN!"

HUH??

I have posted quite often that I know racism still exists, have pointed to studies done by various agencies and institutes where "test couples" and "test individuals" who are alike in every way except color are sent to apply for jobs/ rent apartments/ buy houses/ repair cars/ get loans and are treated differently, just because of color. But my solution isn't reverse racism - because that's just MORE racism, right? - but true meritocracy.

I just don't see Nazis behind every bush, like you do.

[ the one who posts about less-centralized government.

It's people like Ocasio-Cortez who wants big daddy government in every nook and cranny of your life. Just look at her Green New Deal! If you want to see a "communist" (or what you think a "communist is) go look at her!

ANOTHER WTF???

I can't imagine what YOU imagine my so-called "real" agenda is. I know that YOUR real agenda is all about hate and anger and killing people tho. You've made that abundantly clear!

You never pass up a chance to try and manipulate do you?

...from trying to make others see how horrible I supposedly am

(you and 6ix just need to get your narcissist freak on together)

...to pushing for and against candidates that serve your

agenda (Gabbard, AOC, no logic or reason on your end just push push push push!)

...to downplaying any negatives of Communist countries and their history of abject stupidity (Huh?? What 100 million people? Can't we just let other countries run their slavery like they want to??)

...to downplaying any kind of racism but what YOU see as racism.. exists.
(you are only ok with people that live up to YOUR meritocracy. If they aren't FOR your type of government SCREW EM, right?)

You even use WAR as a manipulation tool EVERY CHANCE YOU GET.

Btw, Bipolar and ADHD are all part of the same diseased mindset. Both LOOOOOVE to manipulate, both LOOOOVE to lie. I'd bet a fresh $100 you are bipolar. It's why you and Kiki both agree on everything.

Me? I'm only violent when presented with violence, and manipulation IS A KIND OF VIOLENCE. It's attempted subversion of free will. YOU HAVEN'T THE RIGHT.

Stop manipulating, see me be nicer.

But I know you love manipulating too much to ever stop.

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Thursday, October 24, 2019 2:22 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

You can't have a rational discussion without bringing up worldwide genocide?

What?

100 MILLION people. Famine, war, death squads. All you two can think is "LET'S DO THAT AGAIN!"

HUH??

I have posted quite often that I know racism still exists, have pointed to studies done by various agencies and institutes where "test couples" and "test individuals" who are alike in every way except color are sent to apply for jobs/ rent apartments/ buy houses/ repair cars/ get loans and are treated differently, just because of color. But my solution isn't reverse racism - because that's just MORE racism, right? - but true meritocracy.

I just don't see Nazis behind every bush, like you do.

[ the one who posts about less-centralized government.

It's people like Ocasio-Cortez who wants big daddy government in every nook and cranny of your life. Just look at her Green New Deal! If you want to see a "communist" (or what you think a "communist is) go look at her!

ANOTHER WTF???

I can't imagine what YOU imagine my so-called "real" agenda is. I know that YOUR real agenda is all about hate and anger and killing people tho. You've made that abundantly clear!

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:

You never pass up a chance to try and manipulate do you?

...from trying to make others see how horrible I supposedly am
(you and 6ix just need to get your narcissist freak on together)

...to pushing for and against candidates that serve your agenda (Gabbard, AOC, no logic or reason on your end just push push push push!)

...to downplaying any negatives of Communist countries and their history of abject stupidity (Huh?? What 100 million people? Can't we just let other countries run their slavery like they want to??)

...to downplaying any kind of racism but what YOU see as racism.. exists.
(you are only ok with people that live up to YOUR meritocracy. If they aren't FOR your type of government SCREW EM, right?)

You even use WAR as a manipulation tool EVERY CHANCE YOU GET.

Btw, Bipolar and ADHD are all part of the same diseased mindset. Both LOOOOOVE to manipulate, both LOOOOVE to lie. I'd bet a fresh $100 you are bipolar. It's why you and Kiki both agree on everything.

Me? I'm only violent when presented with violence, and manipulation IS A KIND OF VIOLENCE. It's attempted subversion of free will. YOU HAVEN'T THE RIGHT.

Stop manipulating, see me be nicer.

But I know you love manipulating too much to ever stop.

WISHY - nobody needs to be manipulated to see how horrible you are. Even YOU have an inkling, otherwise why would you go and delete all the crap you posted? And I guarantee it wasn't because of 'space'. (As I think about it, I recall you saw some hallucinatory posts that were supposedly by Signy and me, that you think we somehow completely deleted. Having yourself gone back in time to your own posts, have you FINALLY convinced yourself that no one here can entirely delete a post? That you can edit the content, and even erase it completely, but that spot - with name, picture timestamp etc - will still be there? In other words - have you figured out by experience that what your paranoid delusions make you think we did is not actually doable? And that, since the posts aren't there, and since we didn't magically 'delete' those posts, THEY WEREN'T THERE in the first place?)

BTW, I don't think Signy has ever posted anything good about AOC and certainly has posted negative things! So how could you be so absolutely mistaken about Signy 'pushing' for AOC?

As for 'letting' other countries run themselves - yes, it's a thing, unless you want to be a global dictator and tell everyone what they should have ... or else you'll kill them to 'save' them.

As to anything you post about me, hon, you've always been wrong, and I congratulate you on keeping your streak going!

Finally, you remind me of a couple of other people who flamed-out into insanity right here on the board - one was CANTTAKESKY and the other was MAL4PREZ. So I'm just going to keep pointing out how wrong you are because I can't in good conscience agree when you call for genocide and otherwise post hate-speech. But I honestly don't think you can help yourself at this point.

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Thursday, October 24, 2019 3:14 PM

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The other major political story this fall relates to Trump’s precipitous abandonment of America’s Kurdish allies in Syria, part of a deal the president struck with Turkey that does not appear to have any upside for the United States. Both Democrats and Republicans in Congress criticized this move, the military was against it, Israel was alarmed, and basically nobody can say exactly why this happened.

According to a “news analysis” story by David Sanger in the New York Times, “Trump Followed His Gut on Syria,” and the disastrous fallout just represents a failure to think things through.

That’s certainly possible. Trump is impulsive, and sometimes he does things rashly for no real reason. But one lesson of the Ukraine story is to remind us that Trump is also a pretty wily character who is perfectly capable of forming and executing fairly elaborate plans in secret. We also learned that neither Trump nor his inner circle respects the distinction between a diplomatic deal that aims to advance American interests and a deal that aims to advance Trump’s personal interests.

Given that his arrangement with Turkey had no clear upside for the United States, it’s natural to ask whether it had upside for Trump personally. Sanger reported, citing “the generous description of a senior American diplomat,” that the decision sprung from an “off-script moment” during a call between Trump and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

But rather than take an anonymous source’s word for it, Congress ought to investigate — demanding testimony from officials who work on Syria policy and access to the White House record of the call.

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/10/24/20927844/impeachment-inquir
y-testimony-taylor-trump

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Thursday, October 24, 2019 7:14 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

You never pass up a chance to try and manipulate do you? -WISHY

*** How am I "manipulating" you? Have I not posted what I said I posted?-SIGNY

...from trying to make others see how horrible I supposedly am

-WISHY

** Constantly posting about "eradicating"
an entire planet full of people is, by definition, horrible. Right? And nobody "made" you post those posts, you did it all by your lonesome. Maybe if you eradicated "genocide as a solution" from your thinking you wouldn't come across as being so horrible. Also, I've been EXTREMELY clear why I like some candidates over others.-SIGNY

...to downplaying any negatives of Communist countries and their history of abject stupidity (Huh?? What 100 million people? Can't we just let other countries run their slavery like they want to??)-WISHY

** It seems to me that every time the US deep state decided to "help" another nation it just wound up killing a lot of people and created a situation that was worse than before.-SIGNY

...to downplaying any kind of racism but what YOU see as racism.. exists. (you are only ok with people that live up to YOUR meritocracy. If they aren't FOR your type of government SCREW EM, right?) -WISHY

** Again, I have no idea what you're posting about. Having been a supervisor for YEARS I think I know something about what is job-performance related and what isn't. Banks know how to evaluate people's credit- worthiness. There are criteria on figuring out who will re-offend after release from jail. There are all kinds of objective criteria on how to evaluate a person's merit in a variety of contexts.

I'm not the one who fires people based on their politics, that's SLOPPY'S bailiwick.-SIGNY

You even use WAR as a manipulation tool EVERY CHANCE YOU GET.

-WISHY

** I'm calling for not killing people, you're the one who wants to kill people. If you changed your attitude you might not be so butt-hurt when I come of looking like a more reasonable person than you.-SIGNY

Btw, Bipolar and ADHD are all part of the same diseased mindset. Both LOOOOOVE to manipulate, both LOOOOVE to lie. I'd bet a fresh $100 you are bipolar. It's why you and Kiki both agree on everything. -WISHY

** I've never been dxd with ADHD or anything else. If anything, I was a quiet child. So there you go: swinging at air, again.-SIGNY

Me? I'm only violent when presented with violence, and manipulation IS A KIND OF VIOLENCE. It's attempted subversion of free will. YOU HAVEN'T THE RIGHT.
Stop manipulating, see me be nicer. -WISHY

** But how am I manipulating you? I've always been honest about my posts and if you want to know why I post what I do I'll be very happy to tell you.

I think I know what bothers you but I'll give you a chance to achieve mental clarity. Besides I'm posting from my phone and it's a pain in the ass.-SIGNY

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY

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Thursday, October 24, 2019 7:50 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I'm not the one who fires people based on their politics, that's SLOPPY'S bailiwick.

The three people I fired were:
1) a fuel thief
2) a tool thief
3) an embezzler
It was not a coincidence that all three were loud Trump lovers. Being an outright crook, or just chronically dishonest, goes together with being indifferent to Trump's cheating, lying and defrauding ways. With those three gone, my business runs much smoother. From that recent experience, I predict that if Mike Pence replaced Trump, the Federal government would run much smoother.

"A Guide to Donald Trump’s Business Career"
www.internationalbusinessguide.org/trump-business-career/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, October 24, 2019 8:25 PM

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What Donald Trump’s Flimsy Handle on American History Means

“I don’t know if you knew it, but he actually ran his business simultaneously when he was president,” Trump said. “George Washington was actually considered a very rich man at the time… George Washington, they say, had two desks. He had a presidential desk and a business desk.”

It seems Trump was trying to say that even George Washington, one of the closest things the American republic has to a secular saint, was more corrupt than Trump, who made a big show of handing off his businesses to his sons. Unlike him, Trump implied, George Washington was still formally doing business while serving as president — and employing an elaborate eighteenth-century ritual to appear to keep his duties as the president separate from his work as a plantation owner. Maintaining two desks, Trump seemed to think — and was likely told — had been Washington’s sly workaround.

Almost immediately after Trump shared his insights, Mount Vernon, Washington’s estate, was forced to issue a statement. It was true that Washington was one of the country’s wealthiest men: He oversaw a prosperous agricultural estate, worked by 300 enslaved people. And when he became president, he did not sell off the plantation. Instead, he entrusted his nephew to run it in his absence and stayed as closely involved as he could, demanding reports from his overseers. But that bit about the desks? Well, the Mount Vernon people weren’t sure what the current president was talking about.

“There are two desks that I know of associated with George Washington’s presidency,” Mount Vernon’s research historian, Mary Thompson, said in the statement. “The first has been known as Washington’s presidential desk. I do not know where it is now.” Evidently, Washington had a second desk made for him as he was preparing to hand over the presidency, a desk that was specifically intended for use at Mount Vernon. It was not a “business desk,” nor was it used simultaneously with what Trump called the “presidential desk.” What’s more, Thompson speculated that the floor plan in the Philadelphia house occupied by President Washington for most of his tenure probably couldn’t accommodate two desks anyway: “I am not aware of Washington having had two desks in the study in the presidential mansion, which was a fairly small room.”

It is a remarkable thing to have watched over the past three years. Trump, a deeply and proudly ignorant man, is also the world’s most excitable yet solipsistic student, completely sure that whatever piece of historic arcana that he’s come across is unknown to most of humankind. Just recall his “discovery” of Frederick Douglass, who, Trump noted, “is being recognized more and more.”

The historical fact he discovers is often not new, not a fact — it was clear from Trump’s comments about Douglass that he mistakenly thought the abolitionist was still alive — and is predictably warped to serve his own political interests.

More at www.gq.com/story/donald-trump-george-washington-bad-history

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Thursday, October 24, 2019 10:42 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Quote:

I'm not the one who fires people based on their politics, that's SLOPPY'S bailiwick. SIGNY

The three people I fired were:
1) a fuel thief
2) a tool thief
3) an embezzler
It was not a coincidence that all three were loud Trump lovers.- SLOPPY

]I suppose it's no coincidence that all of the identified burglars around here are Hispanic ...

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY

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Friday, October 25, 2019 8:44 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I'm not the one who fires people based on their politics, that's SLOPPY'S bailiwick.
The three people I fired were:
1) a fuel thief
2) a tool thief
3) an embezzler
It was not a coincidence that all three were loud Trump lovers. Being an outright crook, or just chronically dishonest, goes together with being indifferent to Trump's cheating, lying and defrauding ways. With those three gone, my business runs much smoother. From that recent experience, I predict that if Mike Pence replaced Trump, the Federal government would run much smoother.

"A Guide to Donald Trump’s Business Career"
www.internationalbusinessguide.org/trump-business-career/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Would somebody like to look up Second's posts where he claimed outright that he fired people because of their political beliefs. There are quite a few more than just one out there, assuming he hasn't deleted or re-worded them, but I'm sure that one of us quoted him after the fact.

I can't be bothered since Second is a piece of human garbage and I don't have time for any of his bullshit, but it would be hilarious to put those posts together so we could all laugh at him getting caught in another lie.

I mean... he lives in his mom's basement and doesn't own a business or have any money in the first place. He's younger than I am and most definitely didn't serve in Vietnam. Every word that he types is a lie.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, October 25, 2019 8:49 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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I'm not the one who fires people based on their politics, that's SLOPPY'S bailiwick. SIGNY

The three people I fired were:
1) a fuel thief
2) a tool thief
3) an embezzler
It was not a coincidence that all three were loud Trump lovers.- SLOPPY
]I suppose it's no coincidence that all of the identified burglars around here are Hispanic ...

Did you fire any of them, replacing them with Mike Pence? If Julian Castro is the Democratic nominee for President, you won't vote for him because of your Hispanic prejudice? But at least Castro is not out-of-his-mind like Trump. I really am looking forward to Trump's second term. He will be declaring himself the greatest President in history. Oh, sorry, he is already doing that: "Trump's lies on Syria were jaw-dropping"
www.cnn.com/2019/10/23/opinions/trumps-lies-on-syria-were-jaw-dropping
-ghitis/index.html

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Friday, October 25, 2019 11:06 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Did you fire any of them, replacing them with Mike Pence?- SLOPPY

That has got to be the craziest non=sequitor posted around these parts in a LOOONG time.

I'm talking about burglars who've been arrested or convicted and written about in my local paper. How could I "fire" any of them and replace them with someone else, unless you're insinuating that I run a burglary ring?

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Hispanic prejudice= SLOPPY

Not prejudice, just an observation that when I read arrest/conviction reports in my local paper the surnames are Hispanic. Just like the thieves your fired were all Trump supporters. What does that tell you, if anything?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY

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Friday, October 25, 2019 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Did you fire any of them, replacing them with Mike Pence?- SLOPPY
That has got to be the craziest non=sequitor posted around these parts in a LOOONG time.

I'm talking about burglars who've been arrested or convicted and written about in my local paper. How could I "fire" any of them and replace them with someone else, unless you're insinuating that I run a burglary ring?

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Hispanic prejudice= SLOPPY
Not prejudice, just an observation that when I read arrest/conviction reports in my local paper the surnames are Hispanic. Just like the thieves your fired were all Trump supporters. What does that tell you, if anything?

I was mocking you, Signym. I know the 40 year long history of hundreds of people who voted for, and love, Trump. I also know rich people who actually are Trump-like Blowhards. I also know these people are crooks. They were crooks 40 years ago and they have the misfortunes in life that crooked people have: divorce, bankruptcy, fired from jobs, lawsuits that either they start or others start against them, cars repossessed, gluttony, alcoholism, suicide, drug-addiction, the whole shebang. I find their opinions on politics and news events completely predictable. On the other hand, Signym does not know a damn thing about the Hispanic burglars, other than the word Hispanic from your "local newspaper".

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Friday, October 25, 2019 11:56 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

I said I read their surnames ... Hernandez, Garcia, Lopez ... like that. Not that they were described as "Hispanic". Is it a coincidence that they're all Hispanic?

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY

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Friday, October 25, 2019 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I said I read their surnames ... Hernandez, Garcia, Lopez ... like that. Not that they were described as "Hispanic". Is it a coincidence that they're all Hispanic?

Before voting, I read "A Guide to Donald Trump’s Business Career", published a year before the 2016 election.
www.internationalbusinessguide.org/trump-business-career/
https://web.archive.org/web/20151210044254/https://www.internationalbu
sinessguide.org/trump-business-career/

Unsurprisingly, Trump is as bad at many parts of the actual work done by the Chief Executive of the United States as he was at running many of his own businesses. (I am as prejudiced against bad business practices by fat New Yorker blowhards as Signym is prejudiced against burglary by Hispanics.)

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Friday, October 25, 2019 12:53 PM

I'm prejudiced against keyboard warriors who spend all day in their mom's basement pretending that they have lead a worthwhile life while virtue signalling all day long and taking breaks only to post about their power fantasies of assassination or suggesting to people that they should rise up and kill their bosses out of one side of their face while talking down to those same people in the Cinema thread for thinking the Joker was a good movie.

I'm prejudiced against absolute hypocrite liars.

You, Second, are the definition of scum.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, October 25, 2019 1:11 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm prejudiced against keyboard warriors who spend all day in their mom's basement pretending that they have lead a worthwhile life while virtue signalling all day long and taking breaks only to post about their power fantasies of assassination or suggesting to people that they should rise up and kill their bosses out of one side of their face while talking down to those same people in the Cinema thread for thinking the Joker was a good movie.

I'm prejudiced against absolute hypocrite liars.

You, Second, are the definition of scum.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Are your prejudiced against real plumbers? Remember this picture? It is related to your basement. You could have had a better installation, without having to cut cast iron, by removing the entire section from the break to the next joint. You would have had to dig, but not very much farther because the section is only 5 feet long. 6ix, you should have been able to figure this out for yourself. Look up How to connect cast iron pipe hub to a pvc pipe using rubber gasket. www.lowes.com/pd/Fernco-2-in-x-1-89-in-dia-Flexible-PVC-Donut-Fittings
/1000075221
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=58882&mid=10857
62#1085762

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Friday, October 25, 2019 1:31 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

WTF is WRONG with you, SLOPPY?

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Friday, October 25, 2019 1:44 PM

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WTF is WRONG with you, SLOPPY?

The deal is that 6ixStringJack is constantly calling me a liar, but from my experience with real Trump lovers, and Trump himself, they lie all the time, almost like they can't stop. Is it ADHD? More likely, it is a bad habit:

"President Trump has made 13,435 false or misleading claims over 993 days"
www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/10/14/president-trump-has-made-fa
lse-or-misleading-claims-over-days/

"How To Trick Trump Into Telling the Truth"
www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/10/22/how-to-trick-trump-into-tel
ling-the-truth-229874
Stop punishing the president for lying. Start rewarding him for honesty instead.

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