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One by one, they all fall down

POSTED BY: CONNORFLYNN
UPDATED: Saturday, September 9, 2006 08:36
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Tuesday, July 20, 2004 9:56 AM

CONNORFLYNN


http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/story.jsp?flok=FF-RTO-roitz&idq=/ff/s
tory/0002%2F20040720%2F1227664684.htm&sc=roitz&photoid=20040709KAB01D


Mullah Omar's Brother-in law captured today in Afghanistan.

They can run, they can hide, but one day they will be found.


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Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:13 AM

JCKNIFE



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Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:38 AM

CONNORFLYNN


Holy is that real?!!

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Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:42 AM

JCKNIFE


Well, yes and no. THIS was the original:


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Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:53 AM

CONNORFLYNN


sweet hehe.

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Saturday, September 9, 2006 4:33 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


TWO YEARS LATER....

Quote:

Where Is Osama Bin Laden?
http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=2410569&page=1
Quote:

Source: Mullah Omar in Pakistan
www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/09/09/pakistan.mullahomar/index.html

Well, we can see how well THIS is going!

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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.

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Saturday, September 9, 2006 4:58 AM

SERGEANTX


Bin Laden hasn't been caught because it's not a desired end.

Despite their efforts to confuse the issue with newspeak ('War on Terror'), we're really at war with Al Qaeda. US citizens tolerate the war in Iraq because they think it's somehow part of fighting Al Qaeda. If Bin Laden is caught or killed Bush would lose support for neo-con plans in the middle east. Emmanuel Goldstein indeed...

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Saturday, September 9, 2006 5:21 AM

FREMDFIRMA


Not to mention the damn old fool has prolly packed it in for good - I just can't see him lugging a dialysis machine out into caves on the pakistan border, with enough medical support to make it work.

Really, he was in pretty awful shape the last confirmed (as opposed to right handed, 5'8" guys with short pointy noses pretending to be him on tape) sighting on him, very pale and obviously weak.

If he was still alive, he might be a source of trouble with continued denials of 9-11 involvement, and a different story than the powers that be want him to have....

I wouldn't be surprised if we had delta quietly sanction his ass and leave it under a rock out in the middle of the desert - how better to have an eternal nemesis a'la emmanuel goldstein than to make sure he's already dead ?

And don't even get me started on Adam Pearlman, aka "Azzhat the american" or whatever it is - good golly, he's a punk wanna-be rebel young-un living in California talking smack for his own amusement and cause the powers that be find it expedient to let him rant... but bet your bottom dollar if I know his damn address, homeland security does too.

And that tells me all I need to know, doesn't it ?

Get out the hip-waders boys, cause we're knee-deep in "Al-qeada #2's" (or is that Al-qeada #2?!) already, and they're shovelling in more all the time!

-Frem

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Saturday, September 9, 2006 6:52 AM

DREAMTROVE


I am sad to say that I'm expecting our imminent defeat in Afghanistan. Rebels are taking province after province, and they've just march in to Kabul. This war has been miserably lost.

It's important to remember that the Soviets lost resoundingly with ten times the troop levels we currently have in the country.

This has become a completely hopeless endeavour. I don't think it could be done with less that, probably would need closer to a million, and it's totally not worth doing. Osama Bin Laden is not worth capturing, not having anything to do with 9-11, any more than Saddam.

Here I support the cut and run. Why lose a single man in a hopeless effort like this one. Defeat seems completely certain. IMHO. Just trhowing my two cents in.

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Saturday, September 9, 2006 7:23 AM

ROCKETJOCK


I supported the invasion of Afghanistan; there were clear ties to 9/11, and the reigning goverment had supplied aid and training to those who had done it.

Had we focused on finishing the job in Afghanistan, we might have succeeded in creating a phoenix in the middle east, much as West Germany and Japan were transformed in the wake of WWII.

Instead, our duly appointed presedent chose to weaken, perhaps fatally, the war in Afghanistan the day he split our forces to invade Iraq for no good reason. And please, don't wave phantom WMDs at me; whatever danger they might have posed if they existed was less than the danger to American interests that lay in diffusing our war effort. Only a fool chooses to fight a two-front war without reason.

Had we, pardon the expression, STAYED THE COURSE in Afghanistan, we might have created something other than a matched set of terrorism recruitment camps.

But G.W. wanted revenge for his father's perceived defeat, and so carefully cherry-picked intelligence to justify a personal vendetta.

Don't get me wrong; I'm not defending Saddam; he's a murderous bastard who deserves whatever he gets.

But it makes no sense to target a single jackal by opening the gates to a thousand.


""Fuck Saddam. We're taking him out."
-- George W. Bush, a year before the invasion of Iraq


"I intend to kick his sorry motherfucking ass all over the Mideast."-- George W. Bush, 10 months before the invasion

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Saturday, September 9, 2006 8:36 AM

DREAMTROVE


Rocket Jock,

IMHO, I think it's pretty well established that the plan for the invasion of Afghanistan was delivered to the president's desk on september 10th 2001. I don't credit Michael Moore with very much because I basically think he's a melodramatic partisan hack trying to pass himself off as an objective documentarian, but he is right about something: The conflict in aghanistan was fallout from the failed negotiations with the taliban, and had zippo to do with 9-11. Blaming Bin Laden for the sept. 11th attacks became a convenient way to draw america into that conflict, and it later became a thorn in Bush's side for the Iraq war. I suspect he wishes now that he had pinned the WTC attacks on someone with closer ties to Saddam.

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