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The Law and Order Party - The Repugnants and the Rule of Law

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Tuesday, May 14, 2019 3:45 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Many, many times I have heard "very fine people" say how the "Caravans" of
illegals must obey the law and enter the country legally. Usually these folk
are the right wing establishment of the country. So-called Patriots wielding
AR-15s and carrying "Don't Tread on Me" banners. These are the same people who complain about minorities "freeloading" on government assistance, yet they
support a rancher who violates the law all the while getting "corporate welfare" for his ranch.

They also march in groups carrying "tiki" torches chanting "blood and soil"
and wear Nazi symbols and tattoos. Then you have the fed up people who believe anything the gross leader in the White House and blindly follow him, despite the fact that he is the biggest Con Man on the planet. They say that they don't care what he does as long as he "cleans up" the "Swamp."

The country has seen increases in Hate Crimes, according to FBI Reports, for three consecutive years. What I find particularly interesting is how Trump
continually "supports" these groups (with their anti-Semitic messaging) and all the while claiming his undying love for the people of Israel. Funny how that works. Meanwhile the Republican party sits idly by and does absolutely nothing to stop the hate, fear and madness. By doing so, they actually encourage this behavior. What I'm really surprised about is how they have failed to blame Obama for this upsurge in hateful violence.

Domestic terrorism. Yes, an ugly thought, but nonetheless true. It exists
in this country. Both Synagogues and Black churches alike have been attacked and fire-bombed by desperate Nationalists in the final throes of "diminishing
purity and seeming dominance." I find it odd that you never hear Trump call
out these "lawbreakers" and disgusting individuals, despite the fact that
these are the same people who cry "wolf" whenever speaking of others whom they claim break the law merely because of skin color or place of birth. The Party of Law and order has abandoned their post. They scream "bloody murder" whenever they perceive someone of different skin color or ethnic background
is breaking the law (seeking asylum, working etc.). They claim this country
as their own. They constantly break the law, yet want others to obey the law
as they see fit.

And then you have Trump, playacting at being president, cause face it, he doesn't have a clue; leading the way by ignoring the lawlessness and "signaling" to his people that it's okay to hate, fear and destroy anything
and everything in the name of "Nationalistic" pride. "I love my people"
he says, if only they really knew. Hell, they're so brainwashed at this point that they would walk into the sea and drown if he told them to. The breakdown of societal norms has become commonplace and seemingly a part of the American landscape. It's always been there, in the underbelly of our society, pacing back and forth...waiting, patiently waiting to be released into the wild.
Little do they know that the flames have been fanned, carefully, methodically
and precisely. Trump, drunk with power, has been semi-conscience since his
stunning win, that he's riding high on an unbridled ego trip.



This is a calculated methodical soul-crushing hell-spawn nightmare. All this
brought on by one man's greed. We are about to enter into the second ring of hell, fasten your seat belts.


SGG

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Tuesday, May 14, 2019 6:31 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, May 14, 2019 9:46 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Many, many times I have heard "very fine people" say how the "Caravans" of
illegals must obey the law and enter the country legally. Usually these folk
are the right wing establishment of the country. So-called Patriots wielding
AR-15s and carrying "Don't Tread on Me" banners. These are the same people who complain about minorities "freeloading" on government assistance, yet they
support a rancher who violates the law all the while getting "corporate welfare" for his ranch.

They also march in groups carrying "tiki" torches chanting "blood and soil"
and wear Nazi symbols and tattoos. Then you have the fed up people who believe anything the gross leader in the White House and blindly follow him, despite the fact that he is the biggest Con Man on the planet. They say that they don't care what he does as long as he "cleans up" the "Swamp."

The country has seen increases in Hate Crimes, according to FBI Reports, for three consecutive years. What I find particularly interesting is how Trump
continually "supports" these groups (with their anti-Semitic messaging) and all the while claiming his undying love for the people of Israel. Funny how that works. Meanwhile the Republican party sits idly by and does absolutely nothing to stop the hate, fear and madness. By doing so, they actually encourage this behavior. What I'm really surprised about is how they have failed to blame Obama for this upsurge in hateful violence.

Domestic terrorism. Yes, an ugly thought, but nonetheless true. It exists
in this country. Both Synagogues and Black churches alike have been attacked and fire-bombed by desperate Nationalists in the final throes of "diminishing
purity and seeming dominance." I find it odd that you never hear Trump call
out these "lawbreakers" and disgusting individuals, despite the fact that
these are the same people who cry "wolf" whenever speaking of others whom they claim break the law merely because of skin color or place of birth. The Party of Law and order has abandoned their post. They scream "bloody murder" whenever they perceive someone of different skin color or ethnic background
is breaking the law (seeking asylum, working etc.). They claim this country
as their own. They constantly break the law, yet want others to obey the law
as they see fit.

And then you have Trump, playacting at being president, cause face it, he doesn't have a clue; leading the way by ignoring the lawlessness and "signaling" to his people that it's okay to hate, fear and destroy anything
and everything in the name of "Nationalistic" pride. "I love my people"
he says, if only they really knew. Hell, they're so brainwashed at this point that they would walk into the sea and drown if he told them to. The breakdown of societal norms has become commonplace and seemingly a part of the American landscape. It's always been there, in the underbelly of our society, pacing back and forth...waiting, patiently waiting to be released into the wild.
Little do they know that the flames have been fanned, carefully, methodically
and precisely. Trump, drunk with power, has been semi-conscience since his
stunning win, that he's riding high on an unbridled ego trip.



This is a calculated methodical soul-crushing hell-spawn nightmare. All this
brought on by one man's greed. We are about to enter into the second ring of hell, fasten your seat belts.

SGG

You live among some really weird people. Are these all of your inbred relatives or something?

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Tuesday, May 14, 2019 10:31 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


We've BEEN in the second level ... or maybe the fourth, or fifth ... level of hell, son, only ou haven't noticed. For all that you think Obama was some kind of saint, he destroyed Libya and Ukraine, and attempted "regime change" in Syria and Yemen, and tens of thousands of people died because of him. Gee, how legal and fair do you think THAT was?

He instituted a secret drone program in which he sentenced and executed an American without trial, OKed mass surveillance, and ... in the aftermath of the Great Financial meltdown, which saw tens if not hundreds of thousands of Americans dragged from their homes kicking and screaming, children and elderly and sick tossed out on the street with nowhere else to go by sheriffs, trillions of dollars were tossed at the banks to make them whole and not a single banker was prosecuted for fraud. Under Obama, the wealth gap just got bigger, faster than under Bush II. Fair? Lawful?

And then, he and Hillary and Brennan sicced MI6, Ukraine oligarchs, the DOJ, FBI, CIA, State Department, AND the media on candidate and then elected President Donald Trump.

And BTW ... follow this timeline, if you can ... the FBI was "investigating" Trump BEFORE the election, to the point of "spying" on him. THEY DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING DURING THEIR REAL-TIME "INVESTIGATION". There was no "there" there. But even knowing that THEY saw no evidence of collusion* between the Trump campaign and Russia in their real-tme investigation, they launched a politically-motivated witch hunt afterwards, and promulgated an anti-Russia hysteria which has seriously infected the American public and warped our foreign policy. Fair? Lawful?

And if you want to talk about greed, you should do some reading on the Clintons and their foundation. And in the months to come, things will be uncovered about "Uncle" Joe Biden that are equally troubling.

Please stop pretending that things only got "bad" under Trump, and that Trump is the only miscreant in this whole sad story and the source of all of our problems. If you keep up with that delusion (Trump/Republicans bad, Democrats good) then our problems will NEVER be solved.

BTW, don't you wonder why, out of all of the "bad" things about Trump that the DNC, our security state, and the liberal media COULD have focused on during the election, they chose to focus on a story that was entirely MADE UP?

Why do you suppose that is?

The reality is, "S""G""G", that the vote that propeled Trump into the Whte House was not his base, but a PROTEST VOTE. Just like Brexit, just like Duterte, just like Orban, and just like le Pen. People threw up on the idea of "more of the same"; the Obama years were NOT kind to everyone and a lot of people were sick of it and of him.

Now, instead of your delusion about Trump being the source of "all" of our problems, how about you start thinking ... really thinking ... about our REAL problems, and their "who, what, when, where, how, and why" and then we can figure out what we need to do about them instead of focusing on your fantasy.

Here, listen to this. It's NOT pro-Trump, I promise! Then we can talk.






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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Tuesday, May 14, 2019 11:31 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

The reality is, "S""G""G", that the vote that propeled Trump into the Whte House was not his base, but a PROTEST VOTE. Just like Brexit, just like Duterte, just like Orban, and just like le Pen. People threw up on the idea of "more of the same"; the Obama years were NOT kind to everyone and a lot of people were sick of it and of him.

Now, instead of your delusion about Trump being the source of "all" of our problems, how about you start thinking ... really thinking ... about our REAL problems, and their "who, what, when, where, how, and why" and then we can figure out what we need to do about them instead of focusing on your fantasy.

Here, listen to this. It's NOT pro-Trump, I promise! Then we can talk.

The extent to which congressional Republicans have selectively sheltered Trump from scrutiny is part of a larger pattern that predates Trump of Republicans on Capitol Hill becoming more extreme in their approach to political process issues.

There’s no completely unambiguous starting point for this, and to an extent, the cycle of constitutional hardball has been a tit-for-tat game played by both sides. But as Biden surely remembers from his vice presidency, much of Washington — and certainly many senior members of Barack Obama’s team — were surprised to learn in the winter of 2008-’09 that GOP leadership had no interest in a good-faith negotiation over fiscal stimulus measures. They didn't see themselves as partners in governing the country.

Instead, as Mitch McConnell said at the time, “The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”

Republicans began to use filibuster tactics in unprecedented ways, holding up uncontroversial nominations to eat up precious floor time and refusing to confirm anyone at all to certain posts in an effort to stop agencies from functioning. They weaponized the federal debt ceiling and forced economically damaging austerity budgets on the country only to turn around and embrace budget deficits once Trump was in the White House.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, May 14, 2019 11:39 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

The extent to which congressional Republicans have selectively sheltered Trump from scrutiny is part of a larger pattern that predates Trump of Republicans on Capitol Hill becoming more extreme in their approach to political process issues.- SECONDRATE


And yet, in the other thread, you said that Republicans are secretly conspiring to get rid of Trump
Quote:

You know, Signym, there will be no sudden revealing of a "secret" plot to depose Trump. It is all out in the open that Republican politicians want to see Trump dead and buried, they just can't say it and still get reelected.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63062&p=2

Do you see why nobody takes you seriously? It's because you're UNINGED. CRAZY. BONKERS, COMPLETELY IRRATIONAL. LUNATIC. You post one thing and then immediately afterwards post the opposite. You don't care WHAT you post, you don't give it a moment's thought, just as long as you're throwing shit against the wall you're happy? Jeez, what a nut case!

Just don't expect us sane people to follow you into crazy-town, m'kay?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Wednesday, May 15, 2019 1:58 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


This is going to get UGLY!


sgg


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)


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Wednesday, May 15, 2019 9:01 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Do you see why nobody takes you seriously? It's because you're UNINGED. CRAZY. BONKERS, COMPLETELY IRRATIONAL. LUNATIC. You post one thing and then immediately afterwards post the opposite. You don't care WHAT you post, you don't give it a moment's thought, just as long as you're throwing shit against the wall you're happy? Jeez, what a nut case!

Just don't expect us sane people to follow you into crazy-town, m'kay?

Did you know that Trump's staff ignore his orders, hoping he’ll forget? Sane staff don't follow Trump into crazy-town.

Slow-walking or flat-out disobeying Trump’s fleeting obsessions has become common practice across various sectors of government. Many examples at
www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/05/trump-aides-ignore-presid
ent/589489
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, May 15, 2019 4:43 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nah. Only if you make it. I don't care enough to really voice an opinion other than laughing.

Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
This is going to get UGLY!


sgg


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)




Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, May 15, 2019 10:44 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

This is going to get UGLY!-"S""G""G"


"This"?

Our economy?
Our debt?
Our foreign policy?

It's ALREADY ugly and has been for quite a while so ... please clarify!


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Thursday, May 16, 2019 11:54 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


All of the above!

And yes, I know that it's been ugly. I was being facetious.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

This is going to get UGLY!-"S""G""G"


"This"?

Our economy?
Our debt?
Our foreign policy?

It's ALREADY ugly and has been for quite a while so ... please clarify!


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Thursday, May 16, 2019 11:57 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Well now, isn't that special. Care, don't care; the Trump shuffle.
I wasn't aware sheep could dance, let alone laugh.


sgg


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nah. Only if you make it. I don't care enough to really voice an opinion other than laughing.

Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
This is going to get UGLY!


sgg


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)




Do Right, Be Right. :)


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Thursday, May 16, 2019 11:59 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Quote:

You live among some really weird people. Are these all of your inbred relatives or something?



Really fucking classy.

Low budget.


sgg

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Thursday, May 16, 2019 1:12 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nope. Can't say I care at all to read about or even give a moment to think about whatever paranoid thoughts you have about the world are. It's not my fault you hate white people, and your racism is of zero consequence to me. I have no desire to entertain your ceaseless SJW cringefest.

Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Well now, isn't that special. Care, don't care; the Trump shuffle.
I wasn't aware sheep could dance, let alone laugh.


sgg


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nah. Only if you make it. I don't care enough to really voice an opinion other than laughing.

Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
This is going to get UGLY!


sgg


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)




Do Right, Be Right. :)




Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, May 16, 2019 1:47 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


I read through your diatribe...lots to unpack, but here, take a moment to read the following:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/04/18/mueller-report-
what-redacted-obstruction-collusion-really-mean-definition/3513606002
/

Quote:

Collusion

Merriam-Webster defines the word simply, calling it a "secret agreement or cooperation especially for an illegal or deceitful purpose." In more detailed terms, this is how the People's Law Dictionary defines the term:

n. where two persons (or business entities through their officers or other employees) enter into a deceitful agreement, usually secret, to defraud and/or gain an unfair advantage over a third party, competitors, consumers or those with whom they are negotiating. Collusion can include secret price or wage fixing, secret rebates, or pretending to be independent of each other when conspiring together for their joint ends. It can range from small-town shopkeepers or heirs to a grandma's estate, to gigantic electronics companies or big league baseball team owners.



further into the report Mueller elaborates:

Quote:

The investigation stated that the Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election "sweeping and systematic" fashion and that members of Trump's 2016 campaign showed interest in benefitting from those efforts.

But investigators did not use the concept of "collusion" in their assessment of potential criminality as "collusion is not a specific offense or theory of liability found in the United States code," the report stated.

Instead, investigators examined whether or not Trump "coordinated" with the Russians on election interference, a theory they said they lacked evidence to prove.

"The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian Government in its election interference activities," the report stated.



Law experts who have read the report (and Elizabeth Warren) have found that Mueller faced obstruction in many forms which included lies, deceit, scrubbed emails and uncooperative witnesses, just to name a few. But I especially find this interesting:

"collusion is not a specific offense or theory of liability found in the United States code,"

I am looking into obtaining a copy for a project I'm working on. For the meantime, I'll continue to watch the reading of the report by VICE News.

One thing that I have noticed, as to comments by others here in RWED, I can see why there are a number of folk here that do not share your penchant for
contrarian opinions, conspiracy theories and unsubstantiated accusations.
Well, I realize I'm beating a dead horse here, so I won't bring that into the
debate. It is what it is.

I'll be back...


SGG



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Thursday, May 16, 2019 1:52 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, hahahahhahaha, ha, ha.....LMAO

Me!? Racist!? Ha, you are funny. Here's what I HATE....stupid fucking people.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nope. Can't say I care at all to read about or even give a moment to think about whatever paranoid thoughts you have about the world are. It's not my fault you hate white people, and your racism is of zero consequence to me. I have no desire to entertain your ceaseless SJW cringefest.

Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Well now, isn't that special. Care, don't care; the Trump shuffle.
I wasn't aware sheep could dance, let alone laugh.


sgg


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nah. Only if you make it. I don't care enough to really voice an opinion other than laughing.

Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
This is going to get UGLY!


sgg


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)




Do Right, Be Right. :)




Do Right, Be Right. :)


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Thursday, May 16, 2019 2:14 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

SHINYGOODGUY:
All of the above!

And yes, I know that it's been ugly. I was being facetious.

There has GOT to be a way of indicating when you're being facetious! I can't tell most of the time when I should read you literally and when I should read you opposite.
Thanks for the clarification.

I would LOVE to know what you think in detail. Like, was your response to the video that I posted or something else?


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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Thursday, May 16, 2019 5:14 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Don't say racist shit and people won't call you racist.

Simple.

Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, hahahahhahaha, ha, ha.....LMAO

Me!? Racist!? Ha, you are funny. Here's what I HATE....stupid fucking people.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nope. Can't say I care at all to read about or even give a moment to think about whatever paranoid thoughts you have about the world are. It's not my fault you hate white people, and your racism is of zero consequence to me. I have no desire to entertain your ceaseless SJW cringefest.

Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Well now, isn't that special. Care, don't care; the Trump shuffle.
I wasn't aware sheep could dance, let alone laugh.


sgg


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nah. Only if you make it. I don't care enough to really voice an opinion other than laughing.

Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
This is going to get UGLY!


sgg


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)




Do Right, Be Right. :)




Do Right, Be Right. :)




Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, May 16, 2019 5:51 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
You live among some really weird people. Are these all of your inbred relatives or something?


Really fucking classy.

Low budget.


sgg



All he can do is insult. Doesn't know a damn thing about a damn thing. Gets mad when people insult his fragile little ego though.
Still feels compelled to give his uneducated opinion on EVERYTHING.

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Friday, May 17, 2019 5:15 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
You live among some really weird people. Are these all of your inbred relatives or something?


Really fucking classy.

Low budget.


sgg



All he can do is insult. Doesn't know a damn thing about a damn thing. Gets mad when people insult his fragile little ego though.
Still feels compelled to give his uneducated opinion on EVERYTHING.



1) SOMEbody doesn't know how to use the "reply with quote" option. As it is, WISHY, you made it seem as if "S""G""G" called someone "weird" and "inbred", you made no reference at all to the original poster, and ...

2) The insult queen herself, calling out people for insulting others. Priceless. You, GSTRING, REAVERBOT, THUGR, and SECONDRATE. Audit YOUR posts and count how many times you insulted someone versus how many times you actually DISCUSSED AN IDEA. My guess is that your idea-discussion makes up roughly 5% of your posts. You might want to up the quality of your own posts before you start insulting others. Right?

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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