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Mueller Investigation Is Over / Part two are the trials. Hey Jack, I Was Right. 20 Plus Russians Charged, 19 Of Trumps People Convicted of Felonies.

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Monday, April 1, 2019 11:29 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Still not seeing Colbert's full throated apology.

Don't hold your breath. Maybe Hilliary didn't give this c@ckholster permission.

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Monday, April 1, 2019 2:05 PM

RUE

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Originally posted by THG:
All that's left to say is let it go, move on ... russian trolls ...
T


You've moved on from RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!!?

Really? Is that why you keep bringing it up? Yanno, I'm betting myself you can't post 10 posts in a row in rwe without using the words Russia, Russian, commie, Putin, Kremlin, or FSB.

And sheesh, if this is you 'moved-on', I'd hate to see you in full florid RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!! psychosis, then!
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Originally posted by THG:
Here it is reaver. I'm going to watch it again myself. It's inspirational.

T



htt p:// www.youtube. com/ watch?v=wlWy GOvFwSo

I was right.

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The law is clear: Congress is entitled to the full 400 pages of Mueller's Report, unredacted.

Watergate Special Prosecutor Leon Jaworski completed his work and produced a report backed by evidence collected by the grand jury. The House Judiciary Committee investigating the Watergate scandal issued a subpoena for the report and evidence, and immediately found themselves in court. H.R. Haldeman, President Nixon’s former chief of staff, moved to block production citing Rule 6(e), the same provision cited by Barr.

District Court Judge John J. Sirica rejected Haldeman’s claim and ruled that Rule 6(e) was no bar to disclosure to the committee. Haldeman appealed, and the case was heard by the full slate of D.C. Circuit active judges in a rarely convened en banc proceeding. Ruling 5-1, the D.C. Circuit affirmed the district judge’s analysis on March 21, 1974, in Haldeman v. Sirica . The only dissenter was a Nixon appointee, George MacKinnon.

The documents were promptly produced to the House Judiciary Committee. While the Jaworski report and underlying evidence did not themselves become public – Rule 6(e) was honored — the report became known as “the Road Map” and guided the committee’s ongoing investigation. Four months later the committee reported articles of impeachment. Two weeks later, President Nixon resigned.

www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/04/01/redacted-mueller-report-226
343


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Monday, April 1, 2019 2:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SECOND:
The law is clear: Congress is entitled to the full 400 pages of Mueller's Report, unredacted.

District Court Judge John J. Sirica ... ruled that Rule 6(e) was no bar to disclosure to the committee.

Not Congress, just the committee.

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Quote:

Originally posted by rue:

Not Congress, just the committee.

Thank you, Russia, for clarifying that the full report and underlying evidence may be shared with the Judiciary Committee and the intelligence committees:

www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_6
Rule 6(e)(3)(D)
Quote:

An attorney for the government may disclose any grand-jury matter involving foreign intelligence, counterintelligence (as defined in 50 U.S.C. §401a3003), or foreign intelligence information (as defined in Rule 6(e)(3)(D)(iii)) to any federal law enforcement, intelligence, protective, immigration, national defense, or national security official to assist the official receiving the information in the performance of that official's duties. An attorney for the government may also disclose any grand-jury matter involving, within the United States or elsewhere, a threat of attack or other grave hostile acts of a foreign power or its agent, a threat of domestic or international sabotage or terrorism, or clandestine intelligence gathering activities by an intelligence service or network of a foreign power or by its agent, to any appropriate federal, state, state subdivision, Indian tribal, or foreign government official, for the purpose of preventing or responding to such threat or activities.

(i) Any official who receives information under Rule 6(e)(3)(D) may use the information only as necessary in the conduct of that person's official duties subject to any limitations on the unauthorized disclosure of such information. Any state, state subdivision, Indian tribal, or foreign government official who receives information under Rule 6(e)(3)(D) may use the information only in a manner consistent with any guidelines issued by the Attorney General and the Director of National Intelligence.

(ii) Within a reasonable time after disclosure is made under Rule 6(e)(3)(D), an attorney for the government must file, under seal, a notice with the court in the district where the grand jury convened stating that such information was disclosed and the departments, agencies, or entities to which the disclosure was made.

(iii) As used in Rule 6(e)(3)(D), the term “foreign intelligence information” means:

(a) information, whether or not it concerns a United States person, that relates to the ability of the United States to protect against—

• actual or potential attack or other grave hostile acts of a foreign power or its agent;

• sabotage or international terrorism by a foreign power or its agent; or

• clandestine intelligence activities by an intelligence service or network of a foreign power or by its agent; or

(b) information, whether or not it concerns a United States person, with respect to a foreign power or foreign territory that relates to—

• the national defense or the security of the United States; or

• the conduct of the foreign affairs of the United States.



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Monday, April 1, 2019 3:14 PM

RUE

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by rue:

Not Congress, just the committee.

Thank you, Russia, for clarifying that the full report and underlying evidence may be shared with the Judiciary Committee and the intelligence committees:

www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_6
Rule 6(e)(3)(D)
Quote:

An attorney for the government may disclose any grand-jury matter involving foreign intelligence, counterintelligence (as defined in 50 U.S.C. §401a3003), or foreign intelligence information (as defined in Rule 6(e)(3)(D)(iii)) to any federal law enforcement, intelligence, protective, immigration, national defense, or national security official to assist the official receiving the information in the performance of that official's duties. An attorney for the government may also disclose any grand-jury matter involving, within the United States or elsewhere, a threat of attack or other grave hostile acts of a foreign power or its agent, a threat of domestic or international sabotage or terrorism, or clandestine intelligence gathering activities by an intelligence service or network of a foreign power or by its agent, to any appropriate federal, state, state subdivision, Indian tribal, or foreign government official, for the purpose of preventing or responding to such threat or activities.

(i) Any official who receives information under Rule 6(e)(3)(D) may use the information only as necessary in the conduct of that person's official duties subject to any limitations on the unauthorized disclosure of such information. Any state, state subdivision, Indian tribal, or foreign government official who receives information under Rule 6(e)(3)(D) may use the information only in a manner consistent with any guidelines issued by the Attorney General and the Director of National Intelligence.

(ii) Within a reasonable time after disclosure is made under Rule 6(e)(3)(D), an attorney for the government must file, under seal, a notice with the court in the district where the grand jury convened stating that such information was disclosed and the departments, agencies, or entities to which the disclosure was made.

(iii) As used in Rule 6(e)(3)(D), the term “foreign intelligence information” means:

(a) information, whether or not it concerns a United States person, that relates to the ability of the United States to protect against—

• actual or potential attack or other grave hostile acts of a foreign power or its agent;

• sabotage or international terrorism by a foreign power or its agent; or

• clandestine intelligence activities by an intelligence service or network of a foreign power or by its agent; or

(b) information, whether or not it concerns a United States person, with respect to a foreign power or foreign territory that relates to—

• the national defense or the security of the United States; or

• the conduct of the foreign affairs of the United States.



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I see that the GOP is falsely claiming that the unredacted report cannot be seen by anybody for ever and ever:

The top Republican on the Judiciary Committee, Ranking Member Doug Collins, R-Ga., in a written statement:

“Judiciary Democrats have escalated from setting arbitrary deadlines to demanding unredacted material that Congress does not, in truth, require and that the law does not allow to be shared outside the Justice Department. It’s unfortunate that a body meant to uphold the law has grown so desperate that it’s patently misrepresenting the law, even as the attorney general has already demonstrated transparency above and beyond what is required.”

www.foxnews.com/politics/dems-who-fumed-at-nunes-for-jeopardizing-sour
ces-and-methods-now-demand-mueller-report-in-full


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Monday, April 1, 2019 3:33 PM

RUE

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Quote:

Originally posted by SECOND:
The law is clear: Congress is entitled to the full 400 pages of Mueller's Report, unredacted.

Watergate Special Prosecutor Leon Jaworski completed his work and produced a report backed by evidence collected by the grand jury. The House Judiciary Committee investigating the Watergate scandal issued a subpoena for the report and evidence, and immediately found themselves in court. H.R. Haldeman, President Nixon’s former chief of staff, moved to block production citing Rule 6(e), the same provision cited by Barr.

District Court Judge John J. Sirica rejected Haldeman’s claim and ruled that Rule 6(e) was no bar to disclosure to the committee. Haldeman appealed, and the case was heard by the full slate of D.C. Circuit active judges in a rarely convened en banc proceeding. Ruling 5-1, the D.C. Circuit affirmed the district judge’s analysis on March 21, 1974, in Haldeman v. Sirica . The only dissenter was a Nixon appointee, George MacKinnon.

The documents were promptly produced to the House Judiciary Committee. While the Jaworski report and underlying evidence did not themselves become public – Rule 6(e) was honored — the report became known as “the Road Map” and guided the committee’s ongoing investigation. Four months later the committee reported articles of impeachment. Two weeks later, President Nixon resigned.

Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Not Congress, just the committee.

Quote:

Originally posted by SECOND:
Thank you, Russia, for clarifying that the full report and underlying evidence may be shared with the Judiciary Committee and the intelligence committees

Your original post was all of 12 sentences long, including the sub-head. It's not my fault you could be fucking bothered to read them, and resorted to libel because your ego couldn't take you being caught in a stupid mistake.

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Quote:

Originally posted by rue:

Quote:

Originally posted by SECOND:
Thank you, Russia, for clarifying that the full report and underlying evidence may be shared with the Judiciary Committee and the intelligence committees

Your original post was all of 12 sentences long, including the sub-head. It's not my fault you could be fucking bothered to read them, and resorted to libel because your ego couldn't take you being caught in a stupid mistake.

Since when is being a Russian libelous, Russia Rue? And when are you suing? Please hurry, hurry, hurry every chance you get. Or are you afraid? The judiciary and intelligence committees are entitled to everything Mueller has produced, unredacted. Chairs Nadler and Schiff should immediately assert their rights and subpoena the full Mueller report and underlying evidence. And then their important work can begin.

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Monday, April 1, 2019 4:08 PM

RUE

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by rue:

Quote:

Originally posted by SECOND:
Thank you, Russia, for clarifying that the full report and underlying evidence may be shared with the Judiciary Committee and the intelligence committees

Your original post was all of 12 sentences long, including the sub-head. It's not my fault you could be fucking bothered to read them, and resorted to libel because your ego couldn't take you being caught in a stupid mistake.

Since when is being a Russian libelous, Russia Rue? And when are you suing? Please hurry, hurry, hurry every chance you get. Or are you afraid? The judiciary and intelligence committees are entitled to everything Mueller has produced, unredacted. Chairs Nadler and Schiff should immediately assert their rights and subpoena the full Mueller report and underlying evidence. And then their important work can begin.

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Monday, April 1, 2019 4:12 PM

RUE

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Monday, April 1, 2019 4:13 PM

REAVERFAN


Yes! Let's see that massive lawsuit! You're a winner, girlfriend!

I believe in you!!!

What a dizzy cunt.

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Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
https://www.eff.org/issues/bloggers/legal/liability/defamation

Ask for $4 billion in damages, to be paid as follows:
$1 billion for "rue", the Russian
$1 billion for "1kiki", your previous name
$1 billion for "Donald J Trump"
$1 billion for "Your Real Name" Vashe Nastoyashcheye Imya

https://translate.google.com/#view=home&op=translate&sl=auto&a
mp;tl=ru&text=Your%20Real%20Name



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Monday, April 1, 2019 4:30 PM

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????

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
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T


I think rue/1kiki is sensitive about being Russian. Or not being American. Maybe both. Who knows? I'm hoping rue calls a lawyer and sorts it out.

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
https://www.eff.org/issues/bloggers/legal/liability/defamation

Ask for $4 billion in damages, to be paid as follows:
$1 billion for "rue", the Russian
$1 billion for "1kiki", your previous name
$1 billion for "Donald J Trump"
$1 billion for "Your Real Name" Vashe Nastoyashcheye Imya

https://translate.google.com/#view=home&op=translate&sl=auto&a
mp;tl=ru&text=Your%20Real%20Name



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Monday, April 1, 2019 4:45 PM

RUE

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
????

T


I think rue/1kiki is sensitive about being Russian. Or not being American. Maybe both. Who knows? I'm hoping rue calls a lawyer and sorts it out.

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Monday, April 1, 2019 7:15 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Quote:

Originally posted by SECOND:
The law is clear: Congress is entitled to the full 400 pages of Mueller's Report, unredacted.

District Court Judge John J. Sirica ... ruled that Rule 6(e) was no bar to disclosure to the committee.

Not Congress, just the committee.

You are just on a Troll butt-slamming whirlwind tour.

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Monday, April 1, 2019 7:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
????

T


I think rue/1kiki is sensitive about being Russian. Or not being American. Maybe both. Who knows? I'm hoping rue calls a lawyer and sorts it out.




Hates herself as well I bet. Maybe a doctor to go along with that lawyer.

T



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Monday, April 1, 2019 7:30 PM

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The White House whistleblower bombshell, and what it could mean

Donald Trump ran for president making the case that Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server as secretary of state represented a grave national security threat and made her unfit for office.

White House whistleblower who alleges that the Trump administration has awarded 25 security clearances to people who had been denied those clearances by national security officials.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-white-house-whistleblower-
bombshell-and-what-it-could-mean/ar-BBVv3AH?ocid=spartandhp


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Monday, April 1, 2019 9:18 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


Then you truly would have been frustrated by Watergate as well. The "Break In" happened in June 1972 and Nixon didn't resign until August 1974...two full years after the whole thing started.

Of course, we need to remember that we didn't have the "Deep State" back then;
that is unless, of course, our chief historian (namely Sigs) says otherwise.

http://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-pty-pty_maps&hsimp
=yhs-pty_maps&hspart=pty&p=the+dead+don%27t+die+trailer#id=1&vid=7d3d4dd422b8e08b12790f33660d32bf&action=view



SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Though I normally would agree with Trey here, the behavior of the MSM and the leftwing nutjobs dictate a different outcome here.

If I were Trump, I would want everything to be made public.

Two years of this bullshit is enough. It's time to put this matter to rest once and for all.

COMPLETE TRANSPARENCY.

Do Right, Be Right. :)


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Monday, April 1, 2019 10:23 PM

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From what I heard, Nadler is about to subpoena the AG for the full report.
Barr, in the meantime, is trying to set the agenda and timetable for Congress. Now that takes huge hairy balls to assume.

Both Nadler and Schiff are pursuing their Constitutional duties in their respective committees regarding the Rule of Law.

Here, not to worry, I'll say it for you - but Obama, but Hillary!

You guys never let up do you? But, you're entitled, wrong!, but entitled.

Okay, go ahead, I'm ready now....lay it on me! (you know who you are).


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by rue:

Quote:

Originally posted by SECOND:
Thank you, Russia, for clarifying that the full report and underlying evidence may be shared with the Judiciary Committee and the intelligence committees

Your original post was all of 12 sentences long, including the sub-head. It's not my fault you could be fucking bothered to read them, and resorted to libel because your ego couldn't take you being caught in a stupid mistake.

Since when is being a Russian libelous, Russia Rue? And when are you suing? Please hurry, hurry, hurry every chance you get. Or are you afraid? The judiciary and intelligence committees are entitled to everything Mueller has produced, unredacted. Chairs Nadler and Schiff should immediately assert their rights and subpoena the full Mueller report and underlying evidence. And then their important work can begin.

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Monday, April 1, 2019 10:28 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


Wholeheartedly agree...Full Un-redacted Report! Without question!


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
The law is clear: Congress is entitled to the full 400 pages of Mueller's Report, unredacted.

Watergate Special Prosecutor Leon Jaworski completed his work and produced a report backed by evidence collected by the grand jury. The House Judiciary Committee investigating the Watergate scandal issued a subpoena for the report and evidence, and immediately found themselves in court. H.R. Haldeman, President Nixon’s former chief of staff, moved to block production citing Rule 6(e), the same provision cited by Barr.

District Court Judge John J. Sirica rejected Haldeman’s claim and ruled that Rule 6(e) was no bar to disclosure to the committee. Haldeman appealed, and the case was heard by the full slate of D.C. Circuit active judges in a rarely convened en banc proceeding. Ruling 5-1, the D.C. Circuit affirmed the district judge’s analysis on March 21, 1974, in Haldeman v. Sirica . The only dissenter was a Nixon appointee, George MacKinnon.

The documents were promptly produced to the House Judiciary Committee. While the Jaworski report and underlying evidence did not themselves become public – Rule 6(e) was honored — the report became known as “the Road Map” and guided the committee’s ongoing investigation. Four months later the committee reported articles of impeachment. Two weeks later, President Nixon resigned.

www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/04/01/redacted-mueller-report-226
343


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Monday, April 1, 2019 11:35 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


In my view, Mueller did two things. He spoke loud and clear by submitting the report:

1- Exposing the cronyism of the AG for the dictator-in-chief when he wrote that oily summary (be mindful that Barr auditioned for the part once Trump ousted Sessions by criticizing Mueller)
2- Ignited the House Intelligence and Judiciary Committees to pursue and establish their oversight duties

I submit that this was a deliberate move by Mueller since he could not interview Trump, and he could not indict. He gave that over to Congress, who
can and will investigate this sham of a presidency.

Brilliant chess move. Check!

Barr is now busy "castling" the "king"

(Nadler is prepping his pieces for his next moves)


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Mueller handed in his report. We should start learning a few things this weekend.

tick tock


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Tuesday, April 2, 2019 7:23 AM

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Sports Illustrated columnist Rick Reilly's book “Commander in Cheat: How Golf Explains Trump” documents dozens of examples of underhanded golf behavior by the president, transgressions talked about by pro golfers and duffers alike.

Outside of formal tournaments, golf is a game of honor in which individual players act as their own referees, keep their own scores and assess themselves penalties for rule violations. Trump’s cheating, Reilly said, motivated him to write the book.

“I don’t know much about politics, but I know golf, and it really offended me, not as a voter or as a citizen — just as a golfer,” Reilly said.

More at www.golfchannel.com/news/new-book-details-donald-trumps-alleged-cheati
ng-golf-course


"The caddies got so used to seeing him kick his ball back onto the fairway they came up with a nickname for him: 'Pele.'" That's the world soccer star from Brazil. Trump threw sports announcer Mike Tirico's golf ball off the green into a nearby bunker when they played together.

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Tuesday, April 2, 2019 8:59 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


LOL... your shared hatred for Trump is going to sell a record number of stupid golf books.

Mr. Reilly is a smart man.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, April 2, 2019 9:19 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Golf?

GOLF???

Sometimes when I scan SECOND's posts I feel like I've been dropped into an absurdist movie. But then, I realize it's just SECOND throwing shit against a wall, again.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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Tuesday, April 2, 2019 9:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Golf?

GOLF???

Sometimes when I scan SECOND's posts I feel like I've been dropped into an absurdist movie. But then, I realize it's just SECOND throwing shit against a wall, again.

Essentially, Signym and 6ix, golf is idealized child's play, like Hopscotch or Musical Chairs. And yet, Trump cheats at golf and gets easily caught cheating. Will he be virtuous in areas where it's hard to catch him cheating, unlike golf? He will cheat and lie even worse.

Maybe our Russian trolls are unfamiliar with "Honest" Abe Lincoln and "I cannot tell a lie" George Washington.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, April 2, 2019 9:38 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


So, in other words, perfect for the position. lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, April 2, 2019 9:45 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
So, in other words, perfect for the position. lol

Are you unfamiliar with "Honest" Abe Lincoln and "I cannot tell a lie" George Washington? If I knew your boss, 6ix, I'd tell him you are probably stealing from him. It's easiest just to proactively fire you than to waste his time catching you in the act of being a thief.

Where is your reply, 6ix? Where you defend your honesty, integrity, and all around virtue that makes you as trustworthy as Trump with lives and property?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, April 2, 2019 11:45 AM

REAVERFAN


Former Federal Prosecutor On Mueller: Never Took Me 400 Pages To Say ‘Nothing’s Wrong’
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/chuck-rosenberg-mueller-report-trump-ob
struction_n_5ca2af7fe4b04693a9464284

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Tuesday, April 2, 2019 12:13 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Are you unfamiliar with "Honest" Abe Lincoln and "I cannot tell a lie" George Washington?
Yes, I'm familiar with those myths.

Quote:

Where is your reply, SIX Where you defend your honesty, integrity, and all around virtue that makes you as trustworthy as Trump with lives and property?
This? From the inveterate liar and defamer?

I would be hard-pressed to come up with someone who lied more than you, SECOND. You lie to others and worse, you lie to yourself. You lie so much you don't even know what truth is anymore. You lie so much you have snakes in your head.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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Tuesday, April 2, 2019 12:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Are you unfamiliar with "Honest" Abe Lincoln and "I cannot tell a lie" George Washington?
Yes, I'm familiar with those myths.

Quote:

Where is your reply, SIX Where you defend your honesty, integrity, and all around virtue that makes you as trustworthy as Trump with lives and property?
This? From the inveterate liar and defamer?

I would be hard-pressed to come up with someone who lied more than you, SECOND. You lie to others and worse, you lie to yourself. You lie so much you don't even know what truth is anymore. You lie so much you have snakes in your head.

Signym, you do realize that Trump uses exactly your tactic on his enemies, accusing them of being the liars, not himself, because he so honest. For examples:

Trump accuses Michael Cohen of 'lying to reduce his jail time'
War of Words: Trump and Comey accuse each other of lying
Trump said cascading leaks from within his administration were in fact “fabricated lies” by news organizations based on sources who don't exist.

Here's A Running List Of President Trump's Lies And Other Bullshit
www.buzzfeednews.com/article/maryanngeorgantopoulos/president-trump-li
e-list


It is easy to prove Trump cheats and lies about golf. Harder to prove in court Trump cheats and lies about not golfing parts of his life, but he does.
www.golfchannel.com/news/new-book-details-donald-trumps-alleged-cheati
ng-golf-course


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Tuesday, April 2, 2019 12:51 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Are you unfamiliar with "Honest" Abe Lincoln and "I cannot tell a lie" George Washington?
Yes, I'm familiar with those myths.

Quote:

Where is your reply, SIX Where you defend your honesty, integrity, and all around virtue that makes you as trustworthy as Trump with lives and property?
This? From the inveterate liar and defamer?

I would be hard-pressed to come up with someone who lied more than you, SECOND. You lie to others and worse, you lie to yourself. You lie so much you don't even know what truth is anymore. You lie so much you have snakes in your head.

Signym, you do realize that Trump uses exactly your tactic on his enemies, accusing them of being the liars, not himself, because he so honest. For examples:

Trump accuses Michael Cohen of 'lying to reduce his jail time'
War of Words: Trump and Comey accuse each other of lying
Trump said cascading leaks from within his administration were in fact “fabricated lies” by news organizations based on sources who don't exist.

Here's A Running List Of President Trump's Lies And Other Bullshit
www.buzzfeednews.com/article/maryanngeorgantopoulos/president-trump-li
e-list


It is easy to prove Trump cheats and lies about golf. Harder to prove in court Trump cheats and lies about not golfing parts of his life, but he does.
www.golfchannel.com/news/new-book-details-donald-trumps-alleged-cheati
ng-golf-course


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




Posted on Thu, Mar 31st, 2016 by Sarah Jones

Fact Checkers Prove That 91% of the Things Donald Trump Says Are False

https://www.politicususa.com/2016/03/31/ninety-one-percent-donald-trum
p-false.html


And it's still the same. It has been proven Trump has lied 8,000 times since taking office. So, who continues to defend him. Comrade Sig the most prolific poster of propaganda and lies in these threads. No surprise there.

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Tuesday, April 2, 2019 4:38 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Are you unfamiliar with "Honest" Abe Lincoln and "I cannot tell a lie" George Washington?
Yes, I'm familiar with those myths.

Quote:

Where is your reply, SIX Where you defend your honesty, integrity, and all around virtue that makes you as trustworthy as Trump with lives and property?
This? From the inveterate liar and defamer?

I would be hard-pressed to come up with someone who lied more than you, SECOND. You lie to others and worse, you lie to yourself. You lie so much you don't even know what truth is anymore. You lie so much you have snakes in your head.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .



This.

*yawn*

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, April 2, 2019 8:53 PM

REAVERFAN


Russian trolls pumped out malware along with pro-Trump messages. Venezuelans helped
https://www.mcclatchydc.com/latest-news/article227331194.html

Twitter accounts linked to a Russian troll farm charged by Special Counsel Robert Mueller III did more than pump out pro-Trump messages during the 2016 presidential election. In a previously undisclosed wrinkle, some also preyed on unsuspecting Trump supporters by targeting them with malware, a McClatchy investigation has found.


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Tuesday, April 2, 2019 10:31 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.




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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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Wednesday, April 3, 2019 12:59 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Golf?

GOLF???

Sometimes when I scan SECOND's posts I feel like I've been dropped into an absurdist movie. But then, I realize it's just SECOND throwing shit against a wall, again.

Essentially, Signym and 6ix, golf is idealized child's play, like Hopscotch or Musical Chairs. And yet, Trump cheats at golf and gets easily caught cheating. Will he be virtuous in areas where it's hard to catch him cheating, unlike golf? He will cheat and lie even worse.

Maybe our Russian trolls are unfamiliar with "Honest" Abe Lincoln and "I cannot tell a lie" George Washington.

By that standard of measure, Trump is an Angel alongside LBJ, Obamination, BJ Clinton, Swiftboat Ketchup, Hilliary, Lynch, Lerner, Withholder, etc.

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Wednesday, April 3, 2019 2:35 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


OMG, this is extremely anal...even for you!


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Quote:

Originally posted by SECOND:
The law is clear: Congress is entitled to the full 400 pages of Mueller's Report, unredacted.

District Court Judge John J. Sirica ... ruled that Rule 6(e) was no bar to disclosure to the committee.

Not Congress, just the committee.


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Wednesday, April 3, 2019 2:41 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


...and she doubles down on her "anal" response.

The "committee" is made up of Congressional members, so, in fact, Second is right. (of course, the Senate is a different story).

Sheeese!!!

As Bugs Bunny would say: "What a maroon!"


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Quote:

Originally posted by SECOND:
The law is clear: Congress is entitled to the full 400 pages of Mueller's Report, unredacted.

Watergate Special Prosecutor Leon Jaworski completed his work and produced a report backed by evidence collected by the grand jury. The House Judiciary Committee investigating the Watergate scandal issued a subpoena for the report and evidence, and immediately found themselves in court. H.R. Haldeman, President Nixon’s former chief of staff, moved to block production citing Rule 6(e), the same provision cited by Barr.

District Court Judge John J. Sirica rejected Haldeman’s claim and ruled that Rule 6(e) was no bar to disclosure to the committee. Haldeman appealed, and the case was heard by the full slate of D.C. Circuit active judges in a rarely convened en banc proceeding. Ruling 5-1, the D.C. Circuit affirmed the district judge’s analysis on March 21, 1974, in Haldeman v. Sirica . The only dissenter was a Nixon appointee, George MacKinnon.

The documents were promptly produced to the House Judiciary Committee. While the Jaworski report and underlying evidence did not themselves become public – Rule 6(e) was honored — the report became known as “the Road Map” and guided the committee’s ongoing investigation. Four months later the committee reported articles of impeachment. Two weeks later, President Nixon resigned.

Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Not Congress, just the committee.

Quote:

Originally posted by SECOND:
Thank you, Russia, for clarifying that the full report and underlying evidence may be shared with the Judiciary Committee and the intelligence committees

Your original post was all of 12 sentences long, including the sub-head. It's not my fault you could be fucking bothered to read them, and resorted to libel because your ego couldn't take you being caught in a stupid mistake.


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Wednesday, April 3, 2019 2:50 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Here Siggy,

Here's some info on Trumpy........scumbag-in-chief




sgg

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Wednesday, April 3, 2019 7:03 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


All our Trump defenders (6ix, Signym, 1kiki/rue, JewelStaiteFan, Auraptor) are "discussing" their health crises and the times they almost killed themselves.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63023

I think people who defend Trump need him for some psychological reason or else they kill themselves.

What started the "discussion"? A FOX News meteorologist killed herself because she had dry eyes and poor vision after eye surgery to correct her vision. Possibly she was a Trump defender because of the FOX connection. Her death made our own Trump defenders sympathize because they came close to killing themselves.

Did you know that brain scans show Trump defenders are different from normal people?
www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/02/brain-difference-democrats-republ
icans
/

People who have more fearful dispositions tend to be more politically conservative. It’s not that conservative people are more fearful, it’s that fearful people are more conservative. Conservatives who aren't handling adversity well think about killing themselves. They could turn toward either God or a powerful savior, Trump for example, to ease their painful lives. Since 6ix, Signym, 1kiki/rue, JewelStaiteFan, Auraptor have not expressed any religious beliefs, Trump will be the substitute or the stand-in for a missing or unavailable God who keeps them from killing themselves. If Trump falls unexpectedly, maybe they will finally kill themselves to relieve their suffering. That's why they fight for Trump's survival. It is their own survival they fight for. Again, go read about them killing themselves here: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63023


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, April 3, 2019 7:20 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
All our Trump defenders (6ix, Signym, 1kiki/rue, JewelStaiteFan, Auraptor) are "discussing" their health crises and the times they almost killed themselves.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63023

I think people who defend Trump need him for some psychological reason or else they kill themselves.



Yeah. And so what?

You're constantly talking about assassinating the president, how much you get off on screwing the 99% for your own gains, and half of the ones here that are against Trump often convey hostility, a desire to harm others, and support for censorship.

You're the very reason why we shouldn't have censorship online. If you didn't have places like this to do all of your ranting and raving, you might actually go out and start hurting other people, or worse.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, April 3, 2019 7:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
All our Trump defenders (6ix, Signym, 1kiki/rue, JewelStaiteFan, Auraptor) are "discussing" their health crises and the times they almost killed themselves.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63023

I think people who defend Trump need him for some psychological reason or else they kill themselves.



Yeah. And so what?

You're constantly talking about assassinating the president, how much you get off on screwing the 99% for your own gains, and half of the ones here that are against Trump often convey hostility, a desire to harm others, and support for censorship.

You're the very reason why we shouldn't have censorship online. If you didn't have places like this to do all of your ranting and raving, you might actually go out and start hurting other people, or worse.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I know Trump defenders (these people are more extreme than the simple Trump voters who now have second thoughts about Trump's honesty, integrity, competency ). Trump defenders I know in Texas are not well people. They are not mentally stable. I haven't asked any if they'd kill themselves when Trump is dead or defeated. I really, really don't want to know, but them being dead sure would Make America Great Again. I'll give you a historically example: If Confederate slave-owners had killed themselves in grief when Abraham Lincoln was elected President, it sure would have been a blessing. A huge Civil War could have been avoided.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, April 3, 2019 7:52 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
I know Trump defenders (these people are more extreme than the simple Trump voters who now have second thoughts about Trump's honesty, integrity, competency ). Trump defenders I know in Texas are not well people. They are not mentally stable. I haven't asked any if they'd kill themselves when Trump is dead or defeated. I really, really don't want to know, but them being dead sure would Make America Great Again. I'll give you a historically example: If Confederate slave-owners had killed themselves in grief when Abraham Lincoln was elected President, it sure would have been a blessing. A huge Civil War could have been avoided.



Thanks for the "historically" example, Second.

Stay classy.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, April 3, 2019 7:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
I know Trump defenders (these people are more extreme than the simple Trump voters who now have second thoughts about Trump's honesty, integrity, competency ). Trump defenders I know in Texas are not well people. They are not mentally stable. I haven't asked any if they'd kill themselves when Trump is dead or defeated. I really, really don't want to know, but them being dead sure would Make America Great Again. I'll give you a historically example: If Confederate slave-owners had killed themselves in grief when Abraham Lincoln was elected President, it sure would have been a blessing. A huge Civil War could have been avoided.



Thanks for the "historically" example, Second.

Stay classy.

6ix, you can only take that attitude if you believe slave-owning was simply a political/cultural matter and was not caused by the extreme mental derangement/beliefs of the slave-owners. Were slave-owners the good guys? If you had asked them, they would say they were. And that Confederate President Jefferson Davis (the Trump of his day) was elected to defend slave-owners' rights to live as they pleased.
www.history.com/topics/american-civil-war/jefferson-davis

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, April 3, 2019 8:35 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Mueller vs. Starr vs. Watergate: What happened two days, two weeks, and two months later

https://qz.com/1584773/

The full report from Watergate won’t be made public until Oct. 31, 2018, after Project Democracy and Lawfare sued for its release. Expect the full Mueller report in about 45 to 50 years.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, April 3, 2019 10:17 AM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
All our Trump defenders (6ix, Signym, 1kiki/rue, JewelStaiteFan, Auraptor) are "discussing" their health crises and the times they almost killed themselves.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63023

Liar. In fact, we're discussing why someone would have killed themselves over what seems to be a relatively minor procedure and relatively minor ... and apparently temporary ... side effects, because it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to any of us.

Why do you have to lie about everything, SECOND?
What are you hiding from yourself?

Quote:

I think people who defend Trump need him for some psychological reason or else they kill themselves.
Building on your previous lie with more lies?
Like I said: You have snakes in your head. I've dealt with a person like you before SECOND: A killer who couldn't admit to themselves what they did (and why) and spent their entire life virtue signalling and hiding from the truth ... another person who couldn't forgive themselves. Another person with snakes in their head.

Quote:

What started the "discussion"? A FOX News meteorologist killed herself because she had dry eyes and poor vision after eye surgery to correct her vision. Possibly she was a Trump defender because of the FOX connection. Her death made our own Trump defenders sympathize because they came close to killing themselves.
Building on your previous lie with even more fantastical lies?
Well, why should I be surprised? It's the story of your life, and of your posts

Quote:

People who have more fearful dispositions tend to be more politically conservative. It’s not that conservative people are more fearful, it’s that fearful people are more conservative. Conservatives who aren't handling adversity well think about killing themselves. They could turn toward either God or a powerful savior, Trump for example, to ease their painful lives. Since 6ix, Signym, 1kiki/rue, JewelStaiteFan, Auraptor have not expressed any religious beliefs, Trump will be the substitute or the stand-in for a missing or unavailable God who keeps them from killing themselves. If Trump falls unexpectedly, maybe they will finally kill themselves to relieve their suffering. That's why they fight for Trump's survival. It is their own survival they fight for. Again, go read about them killing themselves here: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63023
The entire thrust of our on-topic posts ... before WISHY pushed her gratuitous trolling into the thread... was, "Well, its upsetting when you have unexpected side effects from a procedure, BUT ..."
I hope THUGR and GSTRING and REAVERBOT go to that thread and read it for themselves; they'll be able to see how you manage to twist the truth. Again. Which is pretty much emblematic how you twist the truth everywhere.

You have a serious problem, SECOND. It's one thing to lie to others, but lying to yourself about such foundational issues is another thing entirely. I hope you get it sorted out.


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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Wednesday, April 3, 2019 11:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Building on your previous lie with more lies?
Like I said: You have snakes in your head. I've dealt with a person like you before SECOND: A killer who couldn't admit to themselves what they did (and why) and spent their entire life virtue signalling and hiding from the truth ... another person who couldn't forgive themselves. Another person with snakes in their head.

Signym, you have used this same move before. Trump has, too.

When Trump is caught red-handed in a lie or scandal, he has a time-worn playbook for weathering it. First, he lies about the facts of the matter, attempting to create enough uncertainty to inoculate his base and a portion of the rest of the population against accepting the reality of what has happened. Second, he pivots to attacking his antagonists (which in the past have included a dead senator, the father of a fallen soldier, and judges of Mexican heritage). Finally, he tries to change the subject.

Far from Trump emerging into a new phase of his presidency with the release of the Barr report, he has in fact lapsed into this age-old pattern. Phases one and two came quickly, with Trump and his surrogates claiming that the president had been completely exonerated even though Mueller explicitly did not make this judgment. They then accused the media and Democrats of corruptly conspiring to bring down the president.

But it is the next part of the administration’s response, phase three, which is so uniquely Trumpian. The president has frequently managed to survive scandals that might have felled other politicians because he is so adept at changing the conversation by sparking a new furor, which eclipses the old one. The result has been a presidency of serial scandals which can easily induce a sense of numbness in his opponents, while making himself appear invulnerable to any particular one of the hundreds of controversies encircling him.

Since the release of the Barr report, Trump has attempted to change the topic in two ways.

1) The first is on healthcare. Last Monday, the Trump administration filed a letter in a Texas court declaring that it would like to see the entirety of the Affordable Care Act – also known as Obamacare – declared unconstitutional. Backing a wacky legal challenge that has been levied against the ACA, the administration is advocating stripping healthcare benefits from tens of millions of Americans with no plan for how to provide them with alternative coverage. Although the move is a sure political loser for Republicans, Trump charged ahead anyway.

2) Second, Trump has stepped up his anti-immigrant rhetoric and threatened to close the US border with Mexico.

More at www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/03/mueller-report-donald-tr
ump-distractions


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