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Trumptard terrorism hits new low ...

POSTED BY: WISHIMAY
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Friday, March 15, 2019 1:12 AM

WISHIMAY


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6811785/Shooter-opens-fire-Ne
w-Zealand-injures-four-people-witnesses-say-heard-20-shots.html


Tarrant said he was a supporter of Donald Trump as a 'symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose'.

And why?
Because Trump pulls shit like THIS. Because he's a THUG. Which attracts THUGS.

"Trump issues an ominous warning during an interview that he has the 'support of the police, the military and Bikers for Trump' who are 'tough people' that will stay calm to a 'certain point', but 'then it would be very bad'"



Still think Trump ISN'T a symbol to white supremacists ??

Delusional much??

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Friday, March 15, 2019 1:18 AM

RUE

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I'll leave it to someone else to point out the problem with your sequence of sentences.
Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6811785/Shooter-opens-fire-Ne
w-Zealand-injures-four-people-witnesses-say-heard-20-shots.html


Tarrant said he was a supporter of Donald Trump as a 'symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose'.

And why?
Because Trump pulls shit like THIS. Because he's a THUG. Which attracts THUGS.

Trump issues an ominous warning during an interview that he has the 'support of the police, the military and Bikers for Trump' who are 'tough people' that will stay calm to a 'certain point', but 'then it would be very bad'



Still think Trump ISN'T a symbol to white supremacists ??

Delusional much??


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Friday, March 15, 2019 1:21 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
I'll leave it to someone else to point out the problem with your sequence of sentences.




Yep, didn't think you'd actually address the issue, tool.

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Friday, March 15, 2019 4:06 AM

RUE

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The story is horrific. What Brenton Tarrant did is beyond my imagining. But his rage against people not like him is his own, not caused by anyone, or attributable to anyone. The dozens of 'reasons' he gave are pretexts after that fact of rage.


Here are at least a dozen of his 'reasons' why he did what he did, including these mass murderers and terrorists, his heroes


and these half-dozen notions (there are more unpublished ones as it was an 87 page document)

and that he "'disliked' Muslims and hated those who had converted to the religion, calling them 'blood traitors'."

Those disparate 'reasons' aren't the cause of his actions. Both his actions and his 'reasons' are the result of his unstable mind.

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Friday, March 15, 2019 6:12 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Not a symbol & not delusional.


Is there anything else?

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Friday, March 15, 2019 7:57 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


"New low", huh?

It must be Friday.


Still waiting on any evidence that Trump colluded with Russia. It's been 25 months now.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, March 15, 2019 9:06 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
"New low", huh?

It must be Friday.


Still waiting on any evidence that Trump colluded with Russia. It's been 25 months now.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

It's already there. Nothing left to do but file the indictments.

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Friday, March 15, 2019 9:08 AM

REAVERFAN


I will invite readers to see my comprehensive, excellent post proving that this is indeed stochastic terrorism.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=62991

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Friday, March 15, 2019 9:10 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
The story is horrific. What Brenton Tarrant did is beyond my imagining. But his rage against people not like him is his own, not caused by anyone, or attributable to anyone. The dozens of 'reasons' he gave are pretexts after that fact of rage.


Here are at least a dozen of his 'reasons' why he did what he did, including these mass murderers and terrorists, his heroes

and that he "'disliked' Muslims and hated those who had converted to the religion, calling them 'blood traitors'."

Those disparate 'reasons' aren't the cause of his actions. Both his actions and his 'reasons' are the result of his unstable mind.

He was directly "inspired" by a host of reichwing pundits. There's no way to deny it.

Stop lying.

I will again refer you to my excellent post, linked above.

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Friday, March 15, 2019 9:19 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Those disparate 'reasons' aren't the cause of his actions. Both his actions and his 'reasons' are the result of his unstable mind.



Yeah, cut him some slack, Wish! He's the real victim! < / goddamn >

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Friday, March 15, 2019 9:20 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
"New low", huh?

It must be Friday.


Still waiting on any evidence that Trump colluded with Russia. It's been 25 months now.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

It's already there. Nothing left to do but file the indictments.



You don't say?

That's pretty serious business. You'd think they would be quick about it. Hope they don't take the weekend off.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, March 15, 2019 9:22 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Still waiting on any evidence that Trump colluded with Russia. It's been 25 months now.




What do you expect collusion to look like, a signed contract? "I agree to collude with Russia..."

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Friday, March 15, 2019 9:24 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Still waiting on any evidence that Trump colluded with Russia. It's been 25 months now.




What do you expect collusion to look like, a signed contract? "I agree to collude with Russia..."



lol. Okay, Rachel Maddow by proxy.



Yes. That is what I expect collusion to look like, since that's what you guys have been saying for 24 months up until recently.

In the mean time, zero evidence.




https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/press-backpedals-on-trump-collusion
-charge-focuses-on-obstruction


http://time.com/5540879/trump-mueller-report-investigation-collusion/

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/muellers-obstruction-inv
estigation-into-trump-less-than-meets-the-eye
/

https://www.timesofisrael.com/house-panel-finds-no-evidence-of-trump-r
ussia-election-collusion
/



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, March 15, 2019 9:41 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You don't say?

That's pretty serious business. You'd think they would be quick about it. Hope they don't take the weekend off.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

No, they're never quick about it.

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Friday, March 15, 2019 9:53 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

That's pretty serious business. You'd think they would be quick about it.




"The Select Committee on Benghazi initially released its findings in June but remained in place for months afterward trying to declassify supporting documents like emails and interview transcripts for public release.

The final report, not including dissenting views from committee Democrats, clocks in at more than 322,000 words. It was added to the official House record without fanfare on Dec. 7 by Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., the panel’s chairman.

The panel, which spent more than $7.8 million over two and a half years, disbanded at the end of the 114th Congress, before a new Congress begins in January."

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Friday, March 15, 2019 9:56 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yes. That is what I expect collusion to look like, since that's what you guys have been saying for 24 months up until recently.



A signed document? "Let's collude..." Some of us here said that?

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Friday, March 15, 2019 9:59 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You don't say?

That's pretty serious business. You'd think they would be quick about it. Hope they don't take the weekend off.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

No, they're never quick about it.



Well, yanno.... Treason.

You think that would be worth skipping weekends to resolve.


lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, March 15, 2019 2:55 PM

RUE

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"He was directly "inspired" by a host of reichwing pundits." If Trump had smacked him upside the head and said 'you idiot! I don't think that at all!' it wouldn't have taken away the rage.

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Friday, March 15, 2019 3:18 PM

RUE

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"Yeah, cut him some slack, Wish! He's the real victim! < / goddamn >"

Note that I didn't call him a victim, nor imply it. So THANKS GEEBERS for your usual lying!

He's a statistical certainty.

With ~7billion people on the planet, at 3 standard deviations there are ~6.8million people past the 'deranged-destructive' end. At 4 standard deviations there are ~0.2million people past the 'deranged-destructive' end. That's a lot of pre-wired people.

If you consider schizophrenia, at a roughly 1.1% global rate, there are ~77million schizophrenics around the globe.

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Friday, March 15, 2019 3:49 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
"He was directly "inspired" by a host of reichwing pundits." If Trump had smacked him upside the head and said 'you idiot! I don't think that at all!' it wouldn't have taken away the rage.



Those of us in Realityland know he wouldn't have done that. In fact, I would bet real cashy money when he heard it he overjoyed at all those pesky "brown people" being removed from the planet.

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Friday, March 15, 2019 3:58 PM

RUE

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Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
** IF ** Trump had smacked him upside the head and said 'you idiot! I don't think that at all!' it wouldn't have taken away the rage.

Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Those of us in Realityland know he wouldn't have done that.

I didn't claim Trump would do that, you twit.

To restate the idea to help you totter to some minuscule understanding: Tarrant's rage existed before Trump became president, and will exist long after Trump leaves office. Trump wasn't the cause, and can never be a cure.



Maybe you're uncomfortable attributing Tarrant's actions to his own deeply held rage. Maybe his rage looks too much like your own.

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Friday, March 15, 2019 4:57 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
** IF ** Trump had smacked him upside the head and said 'you idiot! I don't think that at all!' it wouldn't have taken away the rage.

Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Those of us in Realityland know he wouldn't have done that.

I didn't claim Trump would do that, you twit.

To restate the idea to help you totter to some minuscule understanding: Tarrant's rage existed before Trump became president, and will exist long after Trump leaves office. Trump wasn't the cause, and can never be a cure.



Maybe you're uncomfortable attributing Tarrant's actions to his own deeply held rage. Maybe his rage looks too much like your own.

It's amusing that you would pretend Trump isn't a racist, or that his words and actions didn't foment the extreme rise in reichwing terrorism worldwide.

The asshole specifically mentioned reichwing fascists who incited his hate crimes. This is known as stochastic terrorism. Look it up.

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Friday, March 15, 2019 5:25 PM

RUE

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sto·chas·tic
/st?'kastik/
adjectivetechnical
adjective: stochastic
randomly determined; having a random probability distribution or pattern that may be analyzed statistically but may not be predicted precisely.



I was confused by the term stochastic, which means following probabilities, but unpredictable individually (like nuclear decay).

How far do you have to go before you consider something generic incitement? Here's the BBC version of Trump's (and his administration's) statements about Islam. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38886496 Do those statements cross a line?

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Friday, March 15, 2019 7:01 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Blame social media or video games?

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Friday, March 15, 2019 7:11 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by rue:

Those disparate 'reasons' aren't the cause of his actions. Both his actions and his 'reasons' are the result of his unstable mind.



Yeah, cut him some slack, Wish! He's the real victim! < / goddamn >



Shoo comrade kiki

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Friday, March 15, 2019 7:15 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


I used to hate charlton heston i dunno i guess you get more conservative as you grow older... and Didn't Trump once say 'shoot back', Stephen Willeford or someone had returned fire at some Church?

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Friday, March 15, 2019 7:31 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Do you know your reichwing fascist? is everyone fascist?
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:


The asshole specifically mentioned reichwing fascists who incited his hate crimes.

Look it up.



I dunno at times the link seems kinda Alt-Lite to me, PewDiePie and Candace Owens ... really that's the link? I don't even see Mein Kampf or the KKK or Crusades or the Israel Jew Hitler thing?

Guessing he knew his guns, was probably 110% crazy and Probably on 4Chan a lot by the sounds of it, I think the names mentioned are smoke and mirrors, disinfo, a shameless mass murdering terrorist attack buried in rambles of confusion and troll posts and murder

Anyone have the Liveleak, internet seems funny today can't seem to get the live news
I have no reason to doubt he is a worthless wicked person a killer, a piece of crap, paranoia about White Aussie genocide or his fascism ... but the links to some of the people you quote don't seem to really exist. PewDiePie is a boring dumbass Swedish live stream who basically comments on video games all day, I don't see how he caused the attack
the killer said, "Remember lads, subscribe to PewDiePie." ... PewdiePie is like I dunno marilyn manson or video games ... he seems to be blamed for everything.

NewZealand and maybe even the West will probably collectively punished.

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Friday, March 15, 2019 7:49 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


.
The words seem almost random but I guess in his own crazy fascist mass murdering way they are not? Dmitry Senyavin some old Russian dude who fought Napoleon, I don't know? Marco Antonio Bragadin seen his name, that was battle of Vienna defeats invading turks, the event becomes part of European history? Prince Fruzhin – A Bulgaria King or Prince noble, another dude in Eastern Europe who fought against the Ottoman Turkish? Martel is France fought the moslem Moors invading from N.Africa and Spain? Turk Eater Nikitas Stamatelopoulo independence, revolution in Greek vs Turk. A reference to the Rotherham pakistani paedophile gang or child abuse scandal, I don't recognize the names, a lot of almost random points in history, I'm sure there's some kind of 'Fascist' connection? Seem to be references to wars in Greece, Spain etc or other murders and rape? I guess you would have to understand the fascist code speak, some are wrote in foreign language. Maybe someone at wikipedia might make sense of the rambling of person ready to do terror and a mass murder attack?

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Friday, March 15, 2019 8:00 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Seen the vid, its difficult to find and I don't recommend looking at it, I see why they whoever 'they' are want it off the web. Guy is insane but calculated and cold as ice, a lot of innocent people dead, they hide and huddle as he murders them all
It looks like he might have stored small gasoline drums and had plans to also firebomb the place?

Drives maybe a silver subaru sports car you see the reg and all something like k s h ? 90 , he shows no sympathy no remorse just kills, uses 3 different weapons eventually speeds off, probably goes to another mosque up the road, shoots out the front of his car shotgun blasting out front window, then blasts out left side window hitting another person in a drive by attack

I would think all the deaths / murders were at the first mosque

People said they seen more than one shooter but from what I can tell in this vid there is only one killer doing all the killing

As he speeds off, he stops and beeps as his fellow citizens cross the street jay walking, he has weird music pumping most of the time

By the sounds of Sirens i think it takes cops takes at least 10 + mins to respond

if anything it makes an argument for arming, protecting yourself or having security

RIP and hopefully a speedy recovery to any injured

Quote:

Originally posted by AURAPTOR:



Is there anything else?




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_derangement_syndrome

New Zealand is already talking of banning guns again?

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Friday, March 15, 2019 9:48 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Do you know your reichwing fascist? is everyone fascist?

No. Most people are decidedly not. The people he mentions indeed are, and they couch their fascism in indirect, somewhat light-hearted ways.

Most fascists are probably unaware that they're fascists, or what the word even means.

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Saturday, March 16, 2019 1:52 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:


Most fascists are probably unaware that they're fascists, or what the word even means.



I'd always heard that as a kid, that some people don't know they're racist(or fascist), and I always wondered "HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW?"

Man, this place makes that question and answer 1000 times clearer...

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Saturday, March 16, 2019 2:01 AM

RUE

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Crazy is crazy. Some people just are.

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Saturday, March 16, 2019 7:28 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


None of you knuckleheads even know the meaning of the word fascist, the brutal and oppressive history behind it, or even when to use the word.

If you did know, you would be aware of the fact that you are insulting countless individuals who have lived and died, and are currently living and dying underneath the oppressive thumb of those who practiced it while you get to whine and bitch like a bunch of over privileged idiots in a country that still maintains freedom of speech after more than 250 years... even though we know how much you want to see that go away.

Your childishness and hypocrisy seems to know no bounds.

Quite frankly, you disgust me.

I don't even know how you can look at yourselves in the mirror.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 17, 2019 7:29 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


zero hedge often reads like conspiracy fan fiction but its even more dumb to blame a US Pres for all this

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-16/evidence-indicates-link-betw
een-north-korean-embassy-break-and-christchurch-attacks

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Sunday, March 17, 2019 8:21 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Some of the extreme left recently were telling a pregnant Chelsea Clinton that she's also to blame for it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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