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Monday, January 21, 2019 10:12 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Having watched the longer video which was taken from a where the black Israelites (or whatever they call themselves) were standing, I come away with a different interpretation.

From the video, there was a good 30 feet - maybe more- between them and the students who were basically doing nothing. NOTHING HAPPENED until Phillip decided to interject himself into the scene.

If he wanted to defuse the situation - which needed no defusing, as far as I can tell - why didn't he approach the black agitators, who were being assholes, instead of the students (who were waiting for their bus)?

Why did he think that wading into their group, banging a drum and glaring at them would improve the situation? Even if he was praying for peace, this man is a Vietnam vet, he's been out of the USA for god's sake, didn't he think that there might be a cultural barrier that needed a bit of explanation?

The first video, where the newscaster talked about the mob of "angry students" and the video quickly pans around the students ... pay attention to them: Do they look "angry" to you?? They don't to me.

SIX is right: Don't do stupid shit in public because there will always be someone with a phone. I think more than one "side" did stupid shit,



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Tuesday, January 22, 2019 12:43 AM

WISHIMAY


Squirm and twist.

You do know the drum and singing bit is supposed to be a meditative thing, right???
He wasn't attacking or being aggressive, but that's what he got because THAT'S all Trumptards are capable of.

It really really DOES NOT MATTER where he was going or why, dumb kid should have done the "Christian thing" and allowed him to pass. Catholic school, HELLO???




You know it's a bad day to be a Trumptard when The Independent is calling him out for his amount of stupid.
https://frontier.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-san-antonio-shows-155633759
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Tuesday, January 22, 2019 1:50 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Did you see the look on his face? It didn't look at all meditative, it looked hostile, belligerant, angry. And it didn't look like he was trying to "get" anywhere, except right in some kid's face.

Maybe it was an accidental expression (like "bitchy resting face"), maybe I'm misreading the body language, but it looked like deliberate provocation to me,

Yanno,I know Native Americns have suffered unspeakable injustices, but that doesn't mean that every single one is a saint. Maybe you should be looking at people as individuals instead of archetypes. Watch the vidoes and decide for yourself.

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Tuesday, January 22, 2019 2:50 AM

WISHIMAY


AGAIN, genius.

IT DOES NOT REALLY MATTER.... EITHER OF THEIR EXPRESSIONS.



Indian was moving through crowd singing. Teen took offence to that?? Really? How dare he walk through MY crowd...

Decided to stare the Indian down instead of showing humility AND MOVING THE FUCK ASIDE.




Nothing either of them had done previously matters in this situation, either.

Their age does NOT matter.

Their cultural identity DOES NOT MATTER.


Teen DID THE WRONG THING. PERIOD.

Now I'm gonna take my own advice and stop talking to you, you dense twit.

BECAUSE. YOU. ARE. WRONG.

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Tuesday, January 22, 2019 7:36 AM

JAYNEZTOWN




KY Catholic high school student involved in viral video shares his story

https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=yKokp1l6UuM

https://invidio.us/watch?v=yKokp1l6UuM

Why the Mainstream Lied About the "MAGA Kids," and Why You Believed Them

https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=Lk3tX0UKhUE

https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=Lk3tX0UKhUE

GUILTY: Being White & Wearing a MAGA Hat in Public

https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=yrPsWv1y9DQ

https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=yrPsWv1y9DQ

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Tuesday, January 22, 2019 7:52 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK




Thanks for clearing that up, Jimmy


Blue checkmarked SJW's have been quietly removing their outrage tweets over the incident.

OOPS


Now I don't blame the kid for being pissed either. Bunch of black men across the way were hurling insults at a bunch of white kids first, before the Indian guy comes over to try to break it up. Then he's got somebody banging a drum in his face and doesn't know why. This wasn't racist hatred in his eyes. He was full of adrenaline and resisting the the dueling urges of fight and flight at the same time.


The "rally" the kids were attending puts the MAGA hats in context too. I still wouldn't be dressing up my kids off to school like people put bumper stickers on their cars. This whole shit show is a prime example why.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, January 22, 2019 7:56 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


No, Wishy.

Looks like YOU. WERE. WRONG.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, January 22, 2019 8:24 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
WHY do you people still talk to Sig, all she does is manipulate. There's no reasoning with that.

Squirm and twist, squirm and twist...




Yup. It's a gdamn conundrum. It's hard not to try and put out a fire when it's burning right in front of you, however small and trivial it may seem.

I'm up for a shunning - anyone else? Ignore SIGTROLL for the rest of Jan?

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Tuesday, January 22, 2019 9:18 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Given the truth of the actual situation at hand, Sigs was probably the most level headed of anybody here. Even I said that the kid in the video should get psychiatric help without knowing all of the facts.

Nothing she said here certainly was as bad as ReaverFan's miscalculations and saying that he wanted to punch this kid in the face in the OP. Nothing she said here certainly was as far from the truth as the thread title claiming that the man who willingly walked across the street into the middle of all the kids with that very intent was "mobbed".


You should probably view this entire incident as a learning experience instead of doubling down.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, January 22, 2019 9:36 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Given the truth of the actual situation at hand, Sigs was probably the most level headed of anybody here. Even I said that the kid in the video should get psychiatric help without knowing all of the facts.

Nothing she said here certainly was as bad as ReaverFan's miscalculations and saying that he wanted to punch this kid in the face in the OP. Nothing she said here certainly was as far from the truth as the thread title claiming that the man who willingly walked across the street into the middle of all the kids with that very intent was "mobbed".


You should probably view this entire incident as a learning experience instead of doubling down.




I don't know who you are referring to with "you."

IMHO this whole thing is a nothing burger - stupid people being filmed doing stupid sh*t. Mark it up to Stupid Human Tricks.

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Tuesday, January 22, 2019 12:33 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Given the truth of the actual situation at hand, Sigs was probably the most level headed of anybody here. Even I said that the kid in the video should get psychiatric help without knowing all of the facts. Nothing she said here certainly was as bad as ReaverFan's miscalculations and saying that he wanted to punch this kid in the face in the OP. Nothing she said here certainly was as far from the truth as the thread title claiming that the man who willingly walked across the street into the middle of all the kids with that very intent was "mobbed". You should probably view this entire incident as a learning experience instead of doubling down.- SIX



Quote:

I don't know who you are referring to with "you." - GSTRING
You.

Quote:

IMHO this whole thing is a nothing burger - stupid people being filmed doing stupid sh*t. Mark it up to Stupid Human Tricks.- GSTRING


Which is pretty much what I posted. So, being level-headed, and trying to get more information, AND AGREEING WITH WHAT YOU POSTED ... is that THAT why I deserve

Quote:

... shunning - anyone else? Ignore SIGTROLL for the rest of Jan?


Jeez.


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Tuesday, January 22, 2019 2:19 PM

REAVERFAN


Watched the whole thing. The boys are racist little assholes.

They were wandering around harassing a lot of people.

https://twitter.com/_SJPeace_/status/1087546798418345984?s=19

"It's not rape if you enjoy it."
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fuckthealtright/comments/aip4wn/trump_covingt
on_high_school_students_saying_its
/

The people trying to spin it are Russian trolls trying to create chaos in America.. I watched the longer video and nothing changed.. the black Israelites were assholes but didn’t give an excuse for the maga assholes to act the way they did.

It's no surprise that the parents have hired a PR firm to spin it so their little racist spawn can be portrayed as the victims when they were the aggressors.

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Tuesday, January 22, 2019 2:28 PM

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Tuesday, January 22, 2019 2:46 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I think it's going to be you and Wishy left ranting on about this one, RF.

Too bad you weren't posting this shit on Twitter where you could just make it disappear like all the Hollywood hacks and other elitists are doing now, along with eating their plate of crow.




I wish I had made a dedicated thread about the Rock incident about a week ago instead of just making a passing remark about it on one of the other threads around here. The MSM coverage of this event as opposed to how it actually happened is another great example of this type of bullshit.

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Tuesday, January 22, 2019 2:53 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

The boys are racist little assholes.
Because one kid said MAGA? Hey, how about those black Israelites? Are they racist? Or do they get a "pass" from you because they're ...*whispers* ... black ?

Quote:

They were wandering around harassing a lot of people. -REAVERSHIT
"It's not rape if you enjoy it" followed immediately from another kid with "He did not just say that!"

Didn't I just post that these kids were doing stupid things? But those black Israelites ... weren't they doing stupider things? And that Native elder, wasn't he at least as stupid?

If you're going to punch a racist, why not start with those black folk, and move on from there?

Seriously, that giant double standard that YOU carry around with you all the time ... don't your morals and logic just get a little warped from the weight of all that prejudice?

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Tuesday, January 22, 2019 2:55 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The MSM coverage of this event as opposed to how it actually happened is another great example of this type of bullshit.



Cites? That always seems like too much for you and JSF. When you say "MSM" who do you mean and how many did you actually watch cover this? Or do you think you can just guess what the MSM would say?
I only checkout cnn & msnbc in terms of MSM, and cnn was transparent with additional videos - they didn't hide from the entire roller coaster of opinions, like real journalists reporting the news would. I haven't watched msnbc much since this happened, so I have no idea what they said if anything.

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Tuesday, January 22, 2019 3:05 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


If I were to post the links that you demand, you would just ask me why I posted so many links. Yanno, like you did in the Buzzfeed thread.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=62918

And then I would have to explain to you, four times over, what the problem with their "reporting" was, and you'd keep on accusing me of dodging your question because you didn't understand my explanation. Just like in the Buzzfeed thread.


The day is too short for that nonsense.

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Tuesday, January 22, 2019 3:16 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The MSM coverage of this event as opposed to how it actually happened is another great example of this type of bullshit.



Cites? That always seems like too much for you and JSF. When you say "MSM" who do you mean and how many did you actually watch cover this? Or do you think you can just guess what the MSM would say?
I only checkout cnn & msnbc in terms of MSM, and cnn was transparent with additional videos - they didn't hide from the entire roller coaster of opinions, like real journalists reporting the news would. I haven't watched msnbc much since this happened, so I have no idea what they said if anything.



How about the New York Times article that RF posted in the OP?

Not good enough for you?

Maybe the video by CNN titled "Native American mocked by 'MAGA' hat-wearing teens speaks out"?



The only person who seems to know what happened and says it like it is was Phillips himself. Quote from the video about "mocking": "I realized I had put myself in a really dangerous situation, yanno. Here's a group of people who are angry at somebody else. I put myself in front of that. All of the sudden, I'm the one who's all that anger and all that wanting to have the freedom to rip me apart, yanno, that was scary."






It shouldn't have to be said again, but these were just kids. Sure, they were white, and there were a lot of them, but they were the only kids in the situation. They were being harassed by black MEN, likely because of the hats their parents chose to send them out the door with that day.

They come from Park Hills, KY, which according to Wikipedia is 96.94% white, and only 1.65% black and 0.77% Native American.* For many of them, they probably saw more blacks and Native Americans on that day than they'd ever seen in their lives. And, yes, a lot of their parents probably still do go around saying racist things and making racist jokes when their particular area hasn't been forced diversified like a lot of other areas have been.

So THIS was destined to be one of their earliest memories about meeting large groups of other ethnic cultures. They get verbally harassed by a bunch of black men who should have known better, then harassed online by every SJW idiot out there including celebrities calling for their expulsion and doxxing them?

Way to prove their ignorant parents right, everyone. Swell job.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Park_Hills,_Kentucky

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, January 22, 2019 3:18 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I think it's going to be you and Wishy left ranting on about this one, RF.

Too bad you weren't posting this shit on Twitter where you could just make it disappear like all the Hollywood hacks and other elitists are doing now, along with eating their plate of crow.




I wish I had made a dedicated thread about the Rock incident about a week ago instead of just making a passing remark about it on one of the other threads around here. The MSM coverage of this event as opposed to how it actually happened is another great example of this type of bullshit.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You are literally just too stupid to look at things and see them for what they are.

I SHOWED you the vids of the boys being little shits, to not only the Indian man, but others, too. They were wandering around being dicks to everyone.

Those are the facts. That's what they did. You believe lies and deny facts. And your Russian allies are the same way.

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Tuesday, January 22, 2019 3:20 PM

REAVERFAN


As always, it takes the Russian spin-meisters a day or 2 to come up with their propaganda, spread it around all the conspiracy sites, then watch the low IQ types lick it up without question.

This is settled. You're just lying, now.

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Tuesday, January 22, 2019 3:22 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I think it's going to be you and Wishy left ranting on about this one, RF.

Too bad you weren't posting this shit on Twitter where you could just make it disappear like all the Hollywood hacks and other elitists are doing now, along with eating their plate of crow.




I wish I had made a dedicated thread about the Rock incident about a week ago instead of just making a passing remark about it on one of the other threads around here. The MSM coverage of this event as opposed to how it actually happened is another great example of this type of bullshit.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You are literally just too stupid to look at things and see them for what they are.

I SHOWED you the vids of the boys being little shits, to not only the Indian man, but others, too. They were wandering around being dicks to everyone.

Those are the facts. That's what they did. You believe lies and deny facts. And your Russian allies are the same way.



You'd know all about being ignorant and pissing people off in public, Subcomandante Marcos.

Sure, they were wearing "asshole hats", but at least they didn't hide behind masks and start setting people's private property on fire.

You wouldn't have even known what color they were if they were wearing MAGA ski masks.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, January 22, 2019 3:24 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

It shouldn't have to be said again, but these were just kids. Sure, they were white, and there were a lot of them, but they were the only kids in the situation. They were being harassed by black MEN, likely because of the hats their parents chose to send them out the door with that day.

They come from Park Hills, KY, which according to Wikipedia is 96.94% white, and only 1.65% black and 0.77% Native American.* For many of them, they probably saw more blacks and Native Americans on that day than they'd ever seen in their lives. And, yes, a lot of their parents probably still do go around saying racist things and making racist jokes when their particular area hasn't been forced diversified like a lot of other areas have been.

So THIS was destined to be one of their earliest memories about meeting large groups of other ethnic cultures. They get verbally harassed by a bunch of black men who should have known better, then harassed online by every SJW idiot out there including celebrities calling for their expulsion and doxxing them?

Way to prove their ignorant parents right, everyone. Swell job.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Park_Hills,_Kentucky

Do Right, Be Right. :)

More bullshit from the believer of Russian propaganda and reichwing conspiracy sites.

"Oh, they were just innocent little boys on their first trip to the big city! Then those mean black men yelled at them!"

You're pathetic. They were there to disrupt the women's march with their anti-abortion shit, which is what they did. They hung around, harassing people, and finally found somebody who would yell at them.

They intimidated and insulted the one guy who was trying to calm things down. They are racists. I already proved that. You have no leg to stand on.

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Tuesday, January 22, 2019 3:27 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

It shouldn't have to be said again, but these were just kids. Sure, they were white, and there were a lot of them, but they were the only kids in the situation. They were being harassed by black MEN, likely because of the hats their parents chose to send them out the door with that day.

They come from Park Hills, KY, which according to Wikipedia is 96.94% white, and only 1.65% black and 0.77% Native American.* For many of them, they probably saw more blacks and Native Americans on that day than they'd ever seen in their lives. And, yes, a lot of their parents probably still do go around saying racist things and making racist jokes when their particular area hasn't been forced diversified like a lot of other areas have been.

So THIS was destined to be one of their earliest memories about meeting large groups of other ethnic cultures. They get verbally harassed by a bunch of black men who should have known better, then harassed online by every SJW idiot out there including celebrities calling for their expulsion and doxxing them?

Way to prove their ignorant parents right, everyone. Swell job.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Park_Hills,_Kentucky

Do Right, Be Right. :)

More bullshit from the believer of Russian propaganda and reichwing conspiracy sites.

"Oh, they were just innocent little boys on their first trip to the big city! Then those mean black men yelled at them!"

You're pathetic. They were there to disrupt the women's march with their anti-abortion shit, which is what they did. They hung around, harassing people, and finally found somebody who would yell at them.

They intimidated and insulted the one guy who was trying to calm things down. They are racists. I already proved that. You have no leg to stand on.



No leg to stand on?

Google the long list of big names that have removed their tweets about the incident, some of them even going so far as to make their twitter accounts private or leave the platform altogether.

Is this the hill you're going to die on? It's going to be quite lonely up there, Marcos.


EDITED TO ADD:

Which Russian propoganda and Reichwing conspiracy sites did I cite here? The only reporting I've seen of the incident outside of your thread OP here is from TYT's Jimmy Dore.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, January 22, 2019 3:31 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

The boys are racist little assholes.
Because one kid said MAGA? Hey, how about those black Israelites? Are they racist? Or do they get a "pass" from you because they're ...*whispers* ... black ?

Quote:

They were wandering around harassing a lot of people. -REAVERSHIT
"It's not rape if you enjoy it" followed immediately from another kid with "He did not just say that!"

Didn't I just post that these kids were doing stupid things? But those black Israelites ... weren't they doing stupider things? And that Native elder, wasn't he at least as stupid?

If you're going to punch a racist, why not start with those black folk, and move on from there?

Seriously, that giant double standard that YOU carry around with you all the time ... don't your morals and logic just get a little warped from the weight of all that prejudice?

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

You have no credibility. When will you realize that and stop posting your lies?

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Tuesday, January 22, 2019 9:29 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
WHY do you people still talk to Sig, all she does is manipulate. There's no reasoning with that.

Squirm and twist, squirm and twist...

WISHY, ever the hate-monger. Tell me, WISHY, do you ever get tired of that ginormous double standard that you seem to carry around all the time?

Some days.

I am impressed.

With your fathomless patience.

In a thread overflowing with Libtard Trolls.

Sometimes I hope that 6ix will try to not succumb to Trollville, but he was quick to jump on the Troll Bandwagon yet again.

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Tuesday, January 22, 2019 10:24 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
WHY do you people still talk to Sig, all she does is manipulate. There's no reasoning with that.

Squirm and twist, squirm and twist...

WISHY, ever the hate-monger. Tell me, WISHY, do you ever get tired of that ginormous double standard that you seem to carry around all the time?

Some days.

I am impressed.

With your fathomless patience.

In a thread overflowing with Libtard Trolls.

Sometimes I hope that 6ix will try to not succumb to Trollville, but he was quick to jump on the Troll Bandwagon yet again.



Sealioning
A subtle form of trolling involving "bad-faith" questions. You disingenuously frame your conversation as a sincere request to be enlightened, placing the burden of educating you entirely on the other party. If your bait is successful, the other party may engage, painstakingly laying out their logic and evidence in the false hope of helping someone learn. In fact you are attempting to harass or waste the time of the other party, and have no intention of truly entertaining their point of view. Instead, you react to each piece of information by misinterpreting it or requesting further clarification, ad nauseum. The name "sea-lioning" comes from a Wondermark comic strip.

I spent five minutes asking polite questions, sealioning him into hours of writing until he got exasperated and told me to fuck off.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Sealioning

Dictionary level.

Not just this post. All the Russian troll posts.

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Tuesday, January 22, 2019 11:07 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
WHY do you people still talk to Sig, all she does is manipulate. There's no reasoning with that.

Squirm and twist, squirm and twist...

WISHY, ever the hate-monger. Tell me, WISHY, do you ever get tired of that ginormous double standard that you seem to carry around all the time?

Some days.

I am impressed.

With your fathomless patience.

In a thread overflowing with Libtard Trolls.

Sometimes I hope that 6ix will try to not succumb to Trollville, but he was quick to jump on the Troll Bandwagon yet again.




How so?

If you wear a MAGA hat in public, you're an asshole looking for a fight. If you send your kids out the door with a MAGA hat, you're ten times the asshole knowing full well that it's likely to result in your kids getting into a fight. The same is true if Hillary won and we were talking about I'm With Her hats.


The only thing I regret about anything I posted here is what I said about that single kid in the video, when I didn't have the full context of the incident and the events beforehand.





As for your "yet again" part, I'm assuming you mean all of the bullshit numbers about the economy and jobs out there. I never believed in any of that shit. Not at all during Trump's presidency, and certainly not at all during Obama's. If anything, they've jumped on my bandwagon in that regards, now that the parties in office switched sides.

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Wednesday, January 23, 2019 12:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


.. when I didn't have the full context of the incident and the events beforehand.




The full context is that you are an easily manipulated tool.

The kids WERE running around screaming "Build the wall" at random people at an anti-abortion event they had no context or reason for being at, other than they are young, easily manipulated, filling, fodder. They WERE making shitty comments at the Indigenous Peoples for no reason and then one took his shirt off and started more jack-assery.. The Black Israelites were being aggressive but that in no way absolves the asshole white kids for their rediculous behaviors, and then one of them gets into an ironic Mexican standoff with a guy who was clearly positioning himself between the Black Twits and the Raucous Rethuglicans as a distraction because whoever was supervising the group failed horribly and miserably at preventing their behaviors and any idiot could see it could have gone so much worse.

If you can't tell that that kid had a shitty smirk on his face and probably worse intentions you are goddamned braindamaged.


https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/dont-doubt-what-you-saw-with-your-ow
n-eyes-1831931203


Fucking Rethugs and Russians man...







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Wednesday, January 23, 2019 12:09 AM

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Quote:

A subtle form of trolling involving "bad-faith" questions. You disingenuously frame your conversation as a sincere request to be enlightened, placing the burden of educating you entirely on the other party.
Oh, so THAT'S what GSTRING is doing! And I thought he was just ... yanno... slow.

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Wednesday, January 23, 2019 12:51 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

The video did add context, showing that Phillips and other demonstrators present for the Indigenous Peoples’ March were interposing themselves between between teens draped in racist, misogynist paraphernalia and members of the Black Israelite cult,
Bulltwaddle. He did NOT "interpose" himself, that would imply that he placed himself somewhere in between. He waded right into the teen group.

36:16



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Wednesday, January 23, 2019 2:27 AM

WISHIMAY


ARE YOU BLIND???


He walked RIGHT PAST the BI's on the LEFT to get to the Teens, who were ON THE RIGHT SIDE.

Not that it mattered who stood where, he was being a distraction. And it worked for a minute until dumb teen got confused about what was going on and started a stare down.

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Wednesday, January 23, 2019 4:42 AM

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lol. You're as nutty as ReaverFan, Wishy.

You two are alone here. Nobody gives a shit about your opinions. Have fun with each other. I'm out.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, January 23, 2019 8:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

A subtle form of trolling involving "bad-faith" questions. You disingenuously frame your conversation as a sincere request to be enlightened, placing the burden of educating you entirely on the other party.
Oh, so THAT'S what GSTRING is doing! And I thought he was just ... yanno... slow.




Ha! Sorry, granny, wrong again. I try and keep things ultra simple for you since you like to deflect and deny so much (lie). You're like the eggshell in a bowl of cracked eggs - slippery as hell. You have to be very careful when you try and remove it so you go slowly. I confess it hasn't worked very well - you always find ways to lie your way out of telling the truth like you did in the Fake News thread, "I already answered that!" No child, you didn't. You just broke out another lie.

Also, lately, you have misattributed comments to other people more than usual, and twice just in this thread you have answered questions I didn't ask you (6). Seriously, Aricept - start now, get out in front of your dementia or just slow it down. You won't be able to thank me later.

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Wednesday, January 23, 2019 11:35 AM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

He walked RIGHT PAST the BI's on the LEFT to get to the Teens, who were ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
WOW, THANKS FOR AGREEING WITH ME!

People keep saying that he "interposed" himself.

You DO know what "interposed" means ... right?? It means to GET BETWEEN. If there was one person who WAS "in between", it was the kid in the motorcycle helmet who was tooling around on the Segway, right? HE was "interposing" himself, because he spent most of his time in the roughly 25' of free space IN BETWEEN the two groups. Can we at least agree on that?

IF Mr Phillips was really trying to "make peace", maybe he and his group could have set up a little circle-dance in-between. That would have provided a distraction and set up a physical barrier of people so that the two groups would have to pass thru the native group in order to interact.

But no. Obviously, Mr Phillips had no intention of getting, or staying, "in between". HIS TARGET WAS THE GROUP OF TEENS. He walked directly towards them. He walked right into their group, and right up to one particular teen, and stared him down. Now he's claiming "assault"?

In my book, one important fact on demonstrating "assault" is who approached who first. Mr Phillips approached the teens and walked right into their group. If anyone was behaving aggressively, it would be Mr Phillips. When you walk right up to someone and stand within a half-inch (literally) of touching them, glaring at them, you can't claim afterwards that you were "assaulted". This is alike a little kid yelling "MOM, HE TOUCHED ME"! when they were the instigator themselves.


Now, I don't know what the hell he was thinking. If I give him the benefit of the doubt, I would say that his attempt at "peacemaking" was an epic fail. If I don't give him the benefit of the doubt, I would say that he set up a deliberate provocation just to be videotaped.



*****

As far as the boys "roaming around" and bothering "everyone" ... SO FAR, I HAVE SEEN NO EVIDENCE OF THAT. If you watch the video, as I have, you will see that they stayed in place. There was a time (before Mr Phillips) when they were obviously chanting, and - yes- a boy took off his shirt. But he wasn't running around offending/intimidating people with his naked torso, he was facing his group and leading them in some kind of chant for maybe 15 seconds. As far as I can tell, IT WAS NOT "BUILD THE WALL". It was like a terribly inappropriate and out-of-place pep rally.

YOU know pep rallies, don't you? (I avoided them whenever possible, but I recognize them when I see them.) It was NOT what one does at the Lincoln Memorial, but NOT RACIST. They weren't "running around" chasing people, they maintained their place AND the distance between the two groups. It was just really, really out-of-place, really, really inappropriate, rude to passers-by, and really, really stupid. But it was allowed by the chaperone, who should have known better.

These kids deserve to be punished for being rude and disrespectful to Mr Phillips, to the other people at the memorial, and to the situation. But expulsion? Face-punching? Death threats? And the chaperone? What was he thinking???? How does one respond to such a lapse of judgment? And did the school really send such a large group with only one chaperone? Another lapse of judgment? I'm willing to change my opinion if someone comes up with more info, but so far, what I saw was rudeness and disrespect and stupidity.

Now I'm outta here. YOU, GSTRING, and REAVERFAN can live in your own little outrage-filled alternate reality if you choose.



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Wednesday, January 23, 2019 2:27 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Twitter suspends account that helped ignite controversy over viral encounter

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/21/tech/twitter-suspends-account-native-am
erican-maga-teens/index.html


Looks like it might have been the work of Brazilian Russians.

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Wednesday, January 23, 2019 2:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol. You're as nutty as ReaverFan, Wishy.

You two are alone here. Nobody gives a shit about your opinions. Have fun with each other. I'm out.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I'm glad you're man enough to back out when you've been defeated.

The Russian trolls are paid to be here, so they'll stay.

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Wednesday, January 23, 2019 2:35 PM

REAVERFAN




The Covington Catholic boys harrassed my friends and I before the incident with Nathan Phillips even happened. I'm tired of reading things saying they were provoked by anyone else other than their own egos and ignorance

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/covington-catholic-h
igh-school-nathan-philips-video-nick-sandman-native-american-man-maga-trump-a8740876.html

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Wednesday, January 23, 2019 2:38 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Twitter suspends account that helped ignite controversy over viral encounter

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/21/tech/twitter-suspends-account-native-am
erican-maga-teens/index.html


Looks like it might have been the work of Brazilian Russians.



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Wednesday, January 23, 2019 2:40 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

He walked RIGHT PAST the BI's on the LEFT to get to the Teens, who were ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
WOW, THANKS FOR AGREEING WITH ME!

People keep saying that he "interposed" himself.

You DO know what "interposed" means ... right?? It means to GET BETWEEN. If there was one person who WAS "in between", it was the kid in the motorcycle helmet who was tooling around on the Segway, right? HE was "interposing" himself, because he spent most of his time in the roughly 25' of free space IN BETWEEN the two groups. Can we at least agree on that?

IF Mr Phillips was really trying to "make peace", maybe he and his group could have set up a little circle-dance in-between. That would have provided a distraction and set up a physical barrier of people so that the two groups would have to pass thru the native group in order to interact.

But no. Obviously, Mr Phillips had no intention of getting, or staying, "in between". HIS TARGET WAS THE GROUP OF TEENS. He walked directly towards them. He walked right into their group, and right up to one particular teen, and stared him down. Now he's claiming "assault"?

In my book, one important fact on demonstrating "assault" is who approached who first. Mr Phillips approached the teens and walked right into their group. If anyone was behaving aggressively, it would be Mr Phillips. When you walk right up to someone and stand within a half-inch (literally) of touching them, glaring at them, you can't claim afterwards that you were "assaulted". This is alike a little kid yelling "MOM, HE TOUCHED ME"! when they were the instigator themselves.


Now, I don't know what the hell he was thinking. If I give him the benefit of the doubt, I would say that his attempt at "peacemaking" was an epic fail. If I don't give him the benefit of the doubt, I would say that he set up a deliberate provocation just to be videotaped.



*****

As far as the boys "roaming around" and bothering "everyone" ... SO FAR, I HAVE SEEN NO EVIDENCE OF THAT. If you watch the video, as I have, you will see that they stayed in place. There was a time (before Mr Phillips) when they were obviously chanting, and - yes- a boy took off his shirt. But he wasn't running around offending/intimidating people with his naked torso, he was facing his group and leading them in some kind of chant for maybe 15 seconds. As far as I can tell, IT WAS NOT "BUILD THE WALL". It was like a terribly inappropriate and out-of-place pep rally.

YOU know pep rallies, don't you? (I avoided them whenever possible, but I recognize them when I see them.) It was NOT what one does at the Lincoln Memorial, but NOT RACIST. They weren't "running around" chasing people, they maintained their place AND the distance between the two groups. It was just really, really out-of-place, really, really inappropriate, rude to passers-by, and really, really stupid. But it was allowed by the chaperone, who should have known better.

These kids deserve to be punished for being rude and disrespectful to Mr Phillips, to the other people at the memorial, and to the situation. But expulsion? Face-punching? Death threats? And the chaperone? What was he thinking???? How does one respond to such a lapse of judgment? And did the school really send such a large group with only one chaperone? Another lapse of judgment? I'm willing to change my opinion if someone comes up with more info, but so far, what I saw was rudeness and disrespect and stupidity.

Now I'm outta here. YOU, GSTRING, and REAVERFAN can live in your own little outrage-filled alternate reality if you choose.



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Wednesday, January 23, 2019 3:22 PM

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Twitter suspends account that helped ignite controversy over viral encounter

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/21/tech/twitter-suspends-account-native-am
erican-maga-teens/index.html


Looks like it might have been the work of Brazilian Russians.


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Wednesday, January 23, 2019 3:28 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Russian trolls will lie all day long.



She loves to read her own words.
There's no edit button. How many times I gotta say I don't read wall-o-texts or itemized responses...



Anyway I see there's a new video today of one of the brats making a rape joke.
It's clear there was no supervision, they were just dropped off to run amuk.
The only thing positive about this is these brats aren't gen pop'd with the girls of that town

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Wednesday, January 23, 2019 4:46 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY

She loves to read her own words.
There's no edit button. How many times I gotta say I don't read

not necessary, hon

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Wednesday, January 23, 2019 8:55 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


And meanwhile, our hero Mr Phillips, self-proclaimed Vietnam "era" vet and "recon ranger", was a refrigerator tech in the reserves, went AWOL twice, discharged (didn't say "honorably"), and was never outside of the USA.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/01/23/revealed-nathan-phi
llips-discharge-papers-released-and-he-was-awol-a-lot-n2539951


This just gets more and more fun.

*****

WISHY, REAVERSHIT, GSTRING - do you know what your problem is? Well, you have a lot of them, but you're hugely prejudiced. You judge people by their category, and not by their actions. You saw white boys in MAGA hats and you automatically assumed they were WRONG. You saw a noble Native American, and you automatically assumed he was RIGHT.

You love to view outrage-porn. ANYthing to stoke your feelings of righteous indignation. (And therefore superiority.)

You trust the M$M and you don't bother to find out the truth.

I'm going to give you one example of just how warped you are: You agreed that it was "harassment" when a boy shouted MAGA! at a passing girl. Would it have been harassment if he had shouted SAVE THE WHALES instead? You have no context and no compass.

Now, IMHO the BI's were the most despicable group. The white boys and Mr Phillips? I think it was a close tie.


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Thursday, January 24, 2019 7:38 AM

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Oh, look, everyone! The Russian troll is still spewing the exact same propaganda every other Russian troll is spewing!^

It's like magic! They all get the exact same talking points (lies), and repeat them like the mindless parrots they are!

You're just stupid.

Please never come to America, troll. You are an enemy, and will be treated as such, you piece of shit.

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Thursday, January 24, 2019 10:36 AM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Oh look! REAVERBOT continues to libel me (oh btw REAVERBOT, that's a fancy legal term for LYING) and continues to LIE about the topic!

But that's what a REAVERBOT does. A REAVERBOT does not know faction from fiction, but continues to spew propaganda!




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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh look! REAVERBOT continues to libel me (oh btw REAVERBOT, that's a fancy legal term for LYING) and continues to LIE about the topic!

But that's what a REAVERBOT does. A REAVERBOT does not know faction from fiction, but continues to spew propaganda!




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You're going to get fired from your troll job if you keep exposing your Russian troll identity so blatantly.


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Thursday, January 24, 2019 1:22 PM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Just OOC REAVERBOT, can you do ANYthing besides calling people Nazis or Russian trolls? Or is your programming that limited?

And what are you going to do now? Call me a "Russian troll" ... again??

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Thursday, January 24, 2019 2:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
WISHY, REAVERSHIT, GSTRING....



You have serious brain damage. You're confusing people again. I said this was a nothing burger. Get meds - take meds. It's embarrassing.

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Thursday, January 24, 2019 3:02 PM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

WISHY, REAVERSHIT, GSTRING.... -SIGNY

You have serious brain damage. You're confusing people again. I said this was a nothing burger. Get meds - take meds. It's embarrassing.-GSTRING



Originally, that's not what you said. I don't mean that you post-edited it, I mean that your treated my posts trying to bring reason to the situation as pre-written propaganda.
Quote:

Godd@mn - did someone send you that text block?


Quote:

Funny/ironic, you just posted from cnn's web site.


And then lied about what I posted about Buzzfeed

Quote:

"WITHHOLD JUDGMENT FOR AT LEAST A FEW HOURS AND SEEK OUT ALTERNATIVE INFORMATION BEFORE YOU START SWINGING."- SIGNY

You mean like you did with, "Buzzfeed's article was being reported as fact by the MSM!" - GSTRING



So yeah, fuck off, nitwit.

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Mike Ertel resigns as Florida secretary of state after blackface photos surface

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