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Sunday, November 11, 2018 12:03 AM

WISHIMAY


I'd just like to share what 1kiki sent to me in an email notification. Yanno, instead of posting it HERE.... because she knows how it would look to be sending people threats on their personal emails, being the she is.





"BTW, WISHY - the only thing that's standing between you and a libel suit is my busy schedule. Just fyi. Busy schedules don't last forever. "wink""







Imma say it again, since you can't seem to remember how libel WORKS.

You CANNOT sue libel on an ANONYMOUS ACCOUNT. Maybe if this account were linked by an ACTUAL NAME ....AND maybe to social media....AND maybe if you could prove financial damages....AND maybe if...you could prove I called you something you could prove you AREN'T.


BUT YOU CAN'T, dummy. You have NO FINANCIAL DAMAGES. If you brought a case before a judge and said "Judge, she callin' me names on a website where no one knows my name"
YOU WOULD BE LAUGHED OUT OF THE STATE. And then I would make a motion to counter sue for for any monies it took to get me to said courtroom. And I would win.


Just in case you still are confused, I looked it up for you...

Courts therefore typically protect anonymity under the First Amendment where literary, religious, or political speech is concerned. This First Amendment protection extends to anonymous speech/writing on the Internet, which (at least in theory) allows more participants to engage in public discussion and debate without fear of reprisal.
https://www.wardandsmith.com/articles/internet-libel-legal-recourse-an
onymous-business-defamation



SO now, I would suggest you don't start a war with me, Comrade, or I will be SURE to show you something you ain't NEVER... SEEN... BEFORE.






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Sunday, November 11, 2018 1:13 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Sounds like BungBetty hasn't had her shitski Sphincter Stretched enough lately.

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Sunday, November 11, 2018 2:55 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Sounds like BungBetty hasn't had her shitski Sphincter Stretched enough lately.



Nope, already got my lay for the weekend.

You have a date with lefty or righty tonighty??
I bet you go left, doncha? Just so you can pretend it's dirtier??

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Sunday, November 11, 2018 7:58 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You don't have to have suffered any financial damages in order to have a libel lawsuit.

However, I do believe you are right that you can't sue for libel if you're using an anonymous handle. I've said so before a few times. I'm not a lawyer though, so what do I know. I don't think you have anything to worry about.



BTW... that thread title wasn't racist against polocks, was it?

If it was, 25% of me might take offense to that.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, November 11, 2018 10:41 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Oh yeah, WISHY raciss. Along with being sexist.



HEY RACISS! Since you're an expert at taking things out of context, I wouldn't give your whine more than a nanosecond of my attention. In fact, I've already spent too much time on it.


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Sunday, November 11, 2018 12:28 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I wouldn't give your whine more than a nanosecond of my attention.



K, thanx! Bye, Felicia!

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Sunday, November 11, 2018 12:31 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:



BTW... that thread title wasn't racist against polocks, was it?





"Piece of shitsky"

Better??

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Sunday, November 11, 2018 1:27 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


WISHY

I'm not going to forward you the email I got from my lawyer - you'll need to get your own to tell you what kind of trouble you're in. Suffice to say that it's a law firm that specializes in INTERNET libel. And until you actually talk to a lawyer that specializes in INTERNET libel, you shouldn't feel so confident about what you presume you know.

I'm doing you a favor. I'm giving you a heads up. When my schedule frees up, I will have the time to focus my efforts. You don't want me focusing them on you. You don't want to have to spend the time - and money - on defending yourself. Because it's obvious you did post those things, and it's obvious they're libel. What will your defense be?

And what will your family think when they find out who you are?

If you simply STOP LIBELING, I won't pursue legal action. And, realistically, how hard could that be? How hard could it be to NOT do something risky, destructive, heinous, and irrational? How hard could it be to NOT be a libelous troll?

BTW, I understand you've had a horrible childhood. That doesn't give you the right to libel people and put them at risk just because you've got an impulse to scratch a rage itch, and you've picked some random target.

btw, since libel has consequences, I suggest you find a solution to your emotional problems. In the long run, it'll be cheaper.

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Sunday, November 11, 2018 1:46 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
WISHY

I'm not going to forward you the email I got from my lawyer - you'll need to get your own to tell you what kind of trouble you're in. Suffice to say that it's a law firm that specializes in INTERNET libel. And until you actually talk to a lawyer that specializes in INTERNET libel, you shouldn't feel so confident about what you presume you know.

I'm doing you a favor. I'm giving you a heads up. When my schedule frees up, I will have the time to focus my efforts. You don't want me focusing them on you. You don't want to have to spend the time - and money - on defending yourself. Because it's obvious you did post those things, and it's obvious they're libel. What will your defense be?

And what will your family think when they find out who you are?

If you simply STOP LIBELING, I won't pursue legal action. And, realistically, how hard could that be? How hard could it be to NOT do something risky, destructive, heinous, and irrational? How hard could it be to NOT be a libelous troll?

BTW, I understand you've had a horrible childhood. That doesn't give you the right to libel people and put them at risk just because you've got an impulse to scratch a rage itch, and you've picked some random target.

btw, since libel has consequences, I suggest you find a solution to your emotional problems. In the long run, it'll be cheaper.

I doubt Sphincter Stretching BungBetty has the mental stability to stop being a libellous Troll.

Not too sure her family is not as crazy as she is.

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Sunday, November 11, 2018 1:48 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

How hard could it be to NOT be a libelous troll?

There's a simple lesson here: Don't be an asshole and it won't come back to bite you. As simple as it is, it seems to be beyond quite a few people here.

Oh and BTW, I'll be happy to pile on with KIKI. So the lesson bears repeating:

Don't be an asshole and it won't come back to bite you.

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Sunday, November 11, 2018 8:23 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I have to go on record saying that I don't support any legal action here.

We are all basically anonymous here, and until such time one of us are doxxed I don't belive there is any damages for things that are said here, financially or otherwise.

Haken hasn't removed anyone. I wasn't aware that he had ever even done so in the past, although that has been alleged just recently in another thread. If he has done so, it must have been for truly bad behavior, but it wasn't based off of any political beliefs on either side like some trolls in here cheer on when Facebook or Twitter de-platforms somebody.

Suing somebody, or the threat of a lawsuit itself is just taking censorship into your own hands and taking away the very long leash that Haken has given everybody here.


I don't think anybody here is guilty of anything other than just being assholes. The appropriate action is to just laugh at them.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, November 11, 2018 9:10 PM

THG






Hey, you guys know what white supremist hate more than Jews, Polaks. Who here fits that description? kiki and sig to name two. Who loves the Polak hater Trump, kiki and sig to name two.

Fucking dummies. T


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Sunday, November 11, 2018 9:31 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


People like Wishimay feel free to be sociopaths simply because they think they've found a target that can't fight back. Too bad for their miscalculation.
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I have to go on record saying that I don't support any legal action here.

We are all basically anonymous here, and until such time one of us are doxxed I don't belive there is any damages for things that are said here, financially or otherwise.

Haken hasn't removed anyone. I wasn't aware that he had ever even done so in the past, although that has been alleged just recently in another thread. If he has done so, it must have been for truly bad behavior, but it wasn't based off of any political beliefs on either side like some trolls in here cheer on when Facebook or Twitter de-platforms somebody.

Suing somebody, or the threat of a lawsuit itself is just taking censorship into your own hands and taking away the very long leash that Haken has given everybody here.


I don't think anybody here is guilty of anything other than just being assholes. The appropriate action is to just laugh at them.

Do Right, Be Right. :)


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Sunday, November 11, 2018 9:34 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
WISHY

I'm not going to forward you the email I got from my lawyer - you'll need to get your own to tell you what kind of trouble you're in. Suffice to say that it's a law firm that specializes in INTERNET libel. And until you actually talk to a lawyer that specializes in INTERNET libel, you shouldn't feel so confident about what you presume you know.





YOU ARE SO ENTIRELY FULL OF SHIT.


If yer gonna lie, go big, eh?

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Sunday, November 11, 2018 10:12 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


WISHY, I wouldn't test KIKI if I were you. I've never seen KIKI bluff before.

*****

SIX, there are several schools of thought on how to deal with assholes. In game theory, there is (or was, in any case) a tournament of programmed responses to the "Prisoner's Dilemma" situation which revealed that the overall best program for dealing with assholes was the simplest, and it was called "tit for tat". I think you know what that means. In the case of software, the program started with a cooperative move and then simply echoed the move of the other player after that over many iterations.

Not only did the points for the "tit for tat" player come out ahead, the points for the OTHER players paired with "tit for tat" ALSO came out ahead, because "tit for tat" trained the other players to be more cooperative.

Frankly, I think KIKI and I have gone waaaay beyond "tit for tat". WISHY and the other assholes on the board have been warned more than a few times about where their activities might lead, and - frankly- when I get some free time I'd be more than willing to explore whatever legal action is at my disposal to bring some "consequences" to those don't seem to have enough mental strength to control their inner asshole.

In WISHY'S case... I DIDN'T POST THIS THREAD, DID I? She seems to have a purely dysfunctional response to the real world. Maybe the real world needs to teach her a lesson? That is, if WISHY is capable of learning.

*****

WISHY's experience is that she needs to fight back under all circumstances, because she is a powerless, weak, and frightened eight-year-old. It never occurs to her that she might not only be more powerful than she believes and that she is no longer eight years old, but that she might also be in the wrong.

So, WISHY ... are you capable of reacting like something other than a panicked eight-year-old?



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Sunday, November 11, 2018 10:19 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

WISHY, I wouldn't test KIKI if I were you. I've never seen KIKI bluff before.

*****




Oh bullshit. kiki and even you have been threatening some of us here with lawsuits. All you guys do is bluff. Hey kiki, fuck you and your lawyer. Now, do something about that.

The problem comrades kiki and sig have is that next month I'll post nothing happened. The month after that wish will post noting happened and next year we'll both be posting kiki is both delusional and full of shit. Why, because nothing is going to happen.



Hey, you guys know what white supremacist hate more than Jews, Polaks. Who here fits that description? kiki and sig to name two. Who loves the Polak hater Trump, kiki and sig to name two.

Fucking dummies. T


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Sunday, November 11, 2018 10:54 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


For anyone concerned: there's a simple way to avoid drama, conflict, and bad fortune. Just don't go out of your way to be a libelous asshole from now on. Really, it's not an outrageous standard to meet.

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Monday, November 12, 2018 12:10 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

The problem comrades kiki and sig have is that next month I'll post nothing happened. The month after that wish will post noting happened and next year we'll both be posting kiki is both delusional and full of shit. Why, because nothing is going to happen.
Not sure about KIKI, but here's the deal from my end: I'm trying to get a rather large number of consequential things accomplished (unlike you, who seem to have neither responsibilities nor goals). I have no idea when I'll be done, but it's in the realm of months, not days or weeks. When I get around to it, you and others will have my special attention, dong ma? But in the meantime: Don't be an asshole and it won't come back to bite you. How can you possibly defend any other course of action? I mean, what argument can you make IN FAVOR of being an asshole? Unless you're committed to being an asshole, just because you're a stupid asshole?


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Monday, November 12, 2018 12:33 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
For anyone concerned: there's a simple way to avoid drama, conflict, and bad fortune. Just don't go out of your way to be a libelous asshole from now on. Really, it's not an outrageous standard to meet.



Oh, I'm glad you think so. It took all of ten minutes to find this crap you said about me. I think a judge would be particularly interested in the things you had to say about my husband and CHILD as well.

Did I say ANYWHERE that it was spontaneous? Or are you being deliberately stupid?

And btw, thanks for being the usual lying asshole you always are

..which for some cough delusionalcough reason you think is a realistic representation of the whole.

wow, talk about being an asshole in full diarrhea mode

It gives her a chance to be the screaming, irrational, rage-filled lunatic she is

Sounds pretty insane - oh, and inane, ignorant, and poor white trash-y - to me.




These aren't even half as delightful as some of the other things you have called others, so you may wanna start with the man in the mirror, Hypocrita.

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Monday, November 12, 2018 12:48 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Please, dear woman, look up the definition of "libel". It's NOT calling someone an "asshole".

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Monday, November 12, 2018 4:04 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Out of curiosity, I am wondering if kiki or Sigs feel that I have libelled either of them?

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Monday, November 12, 2018 8:12 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SIX, there are several schools of thought on how to deal with assholes. In game theory, there is (or was, in any case) a tournament of programmed responses to the "Prisoner's Dilemma" situation which revealed that the overall best program for dealing with assholes was the simplest, and it was called "tit for tat". I think you know what that means. In the case of software, the program started with a cooperative move and then simply echoed the move of the other player after that over many iterations.

Not only did the points for the "tit for tat" player come out ahead, the points for the OTHER players paired with "tit for tat" ALSO came out ahead, because "tit for tat" trained the other players to be more cooperative.



I dunno. I wish I didn't take everything so seriously back when I got bullied in junior high school. Assholes are assholes no matter what the age, but I learned later in life that if you don't show anybody that they're bothering you then they will go be an asshole elsewhere. I still didn't learn that lesson by high school, so instead I worked out and started beating the shit out of people until pretty much everybody left me alone.

It took me many more years to learn this lesson. After you do, at least in my experience, the assholes sometimes aren't even assholes. They are just prone to assholish behavior. It's usually so easy to diffuse that I kick myself for not figuring that out a lot earlier.

Quote:

Frankly, I think KIKI and I have gone waaaay beyond "tit for tat". WISHY and the other assholes on the board have been warned more than a few times about where their activities might lead, and - frankly- when I get some free time I'd be more than willing to explore whatever legal action is at my disposal to bring some "consequences" to those don't seem to have enough mental strength to control their inner asshole.


I still don't think either of you would have any legitimate case in court. Quite frankly, it would be kind of frightening to find out that you did.

At the end of the day, nothing is keeping you or Kiki or anybody else here. Sometimes I get to thinking that the hangers-on in the RWED are like the days when I was a youngin' and I hung around until last call at the bar.

Quote:

In WISHY'S case... I DIDN'T POST THIS THREAD, DID I? She seems to have a purely dysfunctional response to the real world. Maybe the real world needs to teach her a lesson? That is, if WISHY is capable of learning.


She wasn't always an asshole. In fact, I quite enjoyed the nightly dialog I had here with her and JO outside of the RWED many years back before I became a hopeless drunk. In all honesty, I don't know what really happened in her life to turn her into what she is now. I've said before a few times that it really saddens me. I'm done apologizing to her though, and I'm not going to kiss her ass. Maybe she'll come around. If not, we're better off just not getting in each other's way.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, November 12, 2018 9:19 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


What a festering, s-hole this place has become. Sometimes I think Haken would do us all a favor by just shutting it down.

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Monday, November 12, 2018 10:56 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
What a festering, s-hole this place has become. Sometimes I think Haken would do us all a favor by just shutting it down.



There's that hyperbole again.

The RWED has always been like this. Always.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, November 12, 2018 11:59 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

What a festering, s-hole this place has become.- GSTRING
And you, SHTF, WISHY, THUGR, and KRAPO helped make it that way, so thanks for that! I used to come here for the latest conservative and far-left PsOV; it was like one-stop shopping, but you post so few ideas that this place is an intellectual wasteland.

In any case, it used to be much much better AND much much worse. There was a time when posting disgusting photos was all the rage (alas, "tub girl" comes to mind) I forget what the fad was called but that's when Haken added Troll Country.



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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Monday, November 12, 2018 12:03 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

She wasn't always an asshole. In fact, I quite enjoyed the nightly dialog I had here with her and JO outside of the RWED many years back
THUGR wasn't always an asshole either. I don't know what happened to him either. Apparently there are a lot of people here who can't control their behavior when they come under stress.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Monday, November 12, 2018 12:06 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Out of curiosity, I am wondering if kiki or Sigs feel that I have libelled either of them?
No, and if I thought that you did you'd know. I'm kind of like a skunk that way ... you'd get multiple and unmistakable warnings from me.

Look, all I want to do is to discuss things but people here act like this is a battleground and they HAVE to 'win" at all costs. Folks, these are just IDEAS being tossed around. Stop acting like they're hand-grenades!

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Monday, November 12, 2018 12:19 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

There's that hyperbole again.

The RWED has always been like this. Always.




No it hasn't - threats of lawsuits? Yeah, you weren't always sober, so you're memory is unreliable. There were thoughtful arguments & discussions, not this constant junk.

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Monday, November 12, 2018 12:21 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Out of curiosity, I am wondering if kiki or Sigs feel that I have libelled either of them?



*whispers*

Stay out of this. Just enjoy it from the sidelines.

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Monday, November 12, 2018 12:24 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

What a festering, s-hole this place has become.- GSTRING
And you, SHTF, WISHY, THUGR, and KRAPO helped make it that way, so thanks for that! I used to come here for the latest conservative and far-left PsOV; it was like one-stop shopping, but you post so few ideas that this place is an intellectual wasteland.

In any case, it used to be much much better AND much much worse. There was a time when posting disgusting photos was all the rage (alas, "tub girl" comes to mind) I forget what the fad was called but that's when Haken added Troll Country.



We had a very long drawn out "interesting" thread about Russia's invasion of Ukraine, for which you piled lies on top of lies *cough* Crimea *cough* - your days of playing the pity card are long past. You are the one poster here in which I never believe anything you post. I actually believe Kiki more than I believe you - and that is amazing. So congrats on filling this place with lies and deceptions. And disgusting photos? That was you as well - or did you forget on purpose already? Remember the dismembered children you posted pics of? For absolutely no reason or purpose, just to be vile.

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Monday, November 12, 2018 12:26 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Out of curiosity, I am wondering if kiki or Sigs feel that I have libelled either of them?



*whispers*

Stay out of this. Just enjoy it from the sidelines.



See, even back in the day when AU posted there was at least some humor to wash it all down with!

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Monday, November 12, 2018 12:37 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:


See, even back in the day when AU posted there was at least some humor to wash it all down with!



Hats off to Chrisisall for the actual humor, back in the day.


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Monday, November 12, 2018 1:27 PM

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There were thoughtful arguments & discussions, not this constant junk. - GSTRING
Yeah GSTRING, thanks for bringing constant trolling and libel to the board!

Yanno, back in the day, even when arguments were very heated, people didn't repeatedly LIBEL each other either, so stop acting like a crybaby and fuck off. Or grow up. Or something.


What I don't understand is your dedication to behaving like an asshole. You defend it, excuse it, and believe that it is your right because your head just blew off with "outrage".

Well, nobody can stop you from acting like an asshole (Altho I feel that you really should rethink your dedication to the cause because what does that say about YOU?) but there ARE legal limits as to what you can post. I don't see anybody threatening Trump's life, do you? Of course not, because that will merit a visit from your friendly Secret Service. Also, libel is another one of those limits. Even online, the real world intrudes.

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Monday, November 12, 2018 2:04 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yeah GSTRING, thanks for bringing constant trolling and libel to the board!

Yanno, back in the day, even when arguments were very heated, people didn't repeatedly LIBEL each other either, so stop acting like a crybaby and fuck off. Or grow up. Or something.


What I don't understand is your dedication to behaving like an asshole. You defend it, excuse it, and believe that it is your right because your head just blew off with "outrage".

Well, nobody can stop you from acting like an asshole (Altho I feel that you really should rethink your dedication to the cause because what does that say about YOU?) but there ARE legal limits as to what you can post. I don't see anybody threatening Trump's life, do you? Of course not, because that will merit a visit from your friendly Secret Service. Also, libel is another one of those limits. Even online, the real world intrudes.




Yeah SIGHEIL, thanks for bringing constant trolling and libel to the board!

Yanno, back in the day, even when arguments were very heated, people didn't repeatedly LIBEL each other either, so stop acting like a crybaby and fuck off. Or grow up. Or something.


What I don't understand is your dedication to behaving like an lying asshole. You defend it, excuse it, and believe that it is your right because your conceit and pretense knows no bounds.

Well, nobody can stop you from acting like an asshole (Altho I feel that you really should rethink your dedication to the cause because what does that say about YOU?) but there ARE legal limits as to what you can post. I don't see anybody but you and Kiki threatening other forum users with lawsuits and other threats, do you? So how do you think you’ll look in court? (That's right, I save everything).

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Monday, November 12, 2018 2:17 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


GSTRING, apparently you STILL don't know what "libel" is. It's NOT calling someone an asshole because that's obviously a matter of opinion. It's not even calling someone a "troll" because that, too, is a matter of opinion. It's when you falsely accuse someone of illegality, such as being a paid Russian troll which is, apparently, an indictable offense. Calling someone a "Nazi" is borderline, but if you're also implying that they belong to an actual hate group then that's probably libel too. I hope that draws the boundaries a little more clearly for you.

So yeah ... keep all the "evidence" that you want. You don't scare me because you don't have a case. YOU, otoh, should be a little perturbed about your own legal future.

Now I think I'm done exchanging words with people who're not only idiots but who also refuse to heed friendly advice.


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Monday, November 12, 2018 9:38 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Out of curiosity, I am wondering if kiki or Sigs feel that I have libelled either of them?


*whispers*

Stay out of this. Just enjoy it from the sidelines.

Yeah, that was the first few months.



Wait a sec....RapKnight posted in RWED?

After livening up the rest of the board, took the wrong turn into the theater of combat?

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Monday, November 12, 2018 10:07 PM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:


Wait a sec....RapKnight posted in RWED?

After livening up the rest of the board, took the wrong turn into the theater of combat?



Just watching from the Uecker seats, and trying to discretely remind you that sometimes it's best to just admire from afar.



Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Monday, November 12, 2018 11:01 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"I still don't think either of you would have any legitimate case in court. Quite frankly, it would be kind of frightening to find out that you did."

THE ACCUSATION OF COMMUNISM AS SLANDER PER SE
"IT IS GENERALLY held that an accusation of Communism in writing is libellous and actionable"
https://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi ...

But yanno - I'll forget the past as long as I'm not subject to any more abuse, either stated or implied.

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Monday, November 12, 2018 11:10 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
"I still don't think either of you would have any legitimate case in court. Quite frankly, it would be kind of frightening to find out that you did."

THE ACCUSATION OF COMMUNISM AS SLANDER PER SE
"IT IS GENERALLY held that an accusation of Communism in writing is libellous and actionable"
https://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi ...

But yanno - I'll forget the past as long as I'm not subject to any more abuse, either stated or implied.



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https://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, November 12, 2018 11:12 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Well personally, I'd rather you didn't do anything and turn the RWED into a circus for the world to dissect because you're throwing a hissy fit over nothing.

Leave if you don't like it.

You know I've defended you when they say stupid shit, but you're being an ass right now. You and Sigs.



I seriously can't wait for Amy Schumer to get involved and dox me publicly to the world and sue me for calling her a cunt.

Maybe I'll sue you for starting that ball rolling when the time comes.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, November 12, 2018 11:15 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Is calling someone a Nazi, or a misogynist, or a white nationalist libelous ?

Why is being accused of ' communism ' so bad, but any other forms of bearing false witness aren't ?



Asking for a friend.

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Monday, November 12, 2018 11:16 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"Well personally, I'd rather you didn't do anything and turn the RWED into a circus for the world to dissect because you're throwing a hissy fit over nothing."

What happened to me and Signy wasn't a one-off or brief moments of exasperation. I know it wasn't that, they know it wasn't that, and you know it wasn't that. And I don't think a years-long campaign of focused, intentional, repeated, HARMFUL, abuse by multiple people is 'nothing'.

But yanno - I'll forget the past as long as I'm not subject to any more abuse, either stated or implied. As far as I'm concerned, that is the end of that. I'd be happy to say 'all done'.

BTW, I cut down the url because it was many lines long. That's why I gave all sorts of clues for you to google.

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Tuesday, November 13, 2018 12:44 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
"Well personally, I'd rather you didn't do anything and turn the RWED into a circus for the world to dissect because you're throwing a hissy fit over nothing."

What happened to me and Signy wasn't a one-off or brief moments of exasperation. I know it wasn't that, they know it wasn't that, and you know it wasn't that. And I don't think a years-long campaign of focused, intentional, repeated, HARMFUL, abuse by multiple people is 'nothing'.

But yanno - I'll forget the past as long as I'm not subject to any more abuse, either stated or implied. As far as I'm concerned, that is the end of that. I'd be happy to say 'all done'.

BTW, I cut down the url because it was many lines long. That's why I gave all sorts of clues for you to google.

Haven't you figured out yet that you are the only person here that knows how to google? Your wizardry is testament.

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Tuesday, November 13, 2018 1:47 AM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Is calling someone a Nazi, or a misogynist, or a white nationalist libelous ?
Hmmm... good question! Calling someone a misogynist is probably NOT libel, unless you're linking it to a pattern of behavior.

Calling someone a nazi?
Quote:

Warning to chatroom users after libel award for man labelled a Nazi

A political argument that erupted in a remote corner of cyberspace and descended into vicious name-calling could lead to a spate of libel actions by contributors to internet message boards, the man at the centre of the case claimed yesterday.

The dark side of the blogosphere was revealed by a libel action brought by Michael Keith-Smith, a former Conservative party member who stood for Ukip in Portsmouth North at the last election. He said he was moved to sue after a woman with whom he was debating the merits of military action in Iraq began a campaign of name-calling that started by describing him as "lard brain" and culminated in falsely labelling him a "Nazi", a "racist bigot" and a "nonce".

Tracy Williams, a college lecturer from Oldham, was ordered by a high court judge to pay £10,000 in damages, as well as Mr Keith-Smith's £7,200 costs, and told never to repeat the allegations.

The case is one of the first of its kind between two private individuals to go to court and, said lawyers, highlighted issues that would become more prominent as internet usage continued to grow and blogging, social networking and community sites became yet more popular.

Mr Keith-Smith told the Guardian that he took action after a debate about the Iraq war in 2003 on a Yahoo! message board with about 100 members turned ugly. "She was very pro-Bush. Initially, she called me lard brain and I wasn't particularly concerned about that. Then she called me a Nazi," he said.
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He has also taken action against a second poster, he said, with whom he claimed to have settled for a sum "in the region of £30,000".

"They started saying I was on a sex offenders' list and that people shouldn't let me near their children," said Mr Keith-Smith, who is also chairman of the Conservative Democratic Alliance, which bills itself as "the leading voice of the radical Tory right".

He resolved to take legal action after the pair accused his wife of being a prostitute. But once his solicitors petitioned the court to find out the identity of Ms Williams, who contributed to the forum under a pseudonym, the abuse got worse.

"It's a matter of principle. I had no proof that anyone who read this took it seriously. I just didn't see why she should be allowed to get away with it," he said.

Legal experts said the case should be taken as a warning to the millions of people in the UK debating contentious issues on message boards, in chatrooms and on their own blogs that the laws of libel applied just as they would if the comments were published in a leaflet or newsletter.


https://www.theguardian.com/media/2006/mar/23/digitalmedia.law

Of course, that was in Britain so their laws may differ, but if it was clear that someone was being called an ACTUAL "Nazi" ... even here ... like belonging to a Nazi party ... I think that would qualify as libel.

"White nationalist" is a lot more specific than "Nazi" because a lot of people throw the "Nazi" term around. Calling someone a "white nationalist" is getting pretty close to implying that they belong to a hate group. If someone was falsely accused of being (say) a member of the KKK that's clearly libel.

I think you should look here:

https://www.eff.org/issues/bloggers/legal/liability/defamation

It's complicated when the posters are cloaked by anonymity. The EFF is currently involved in a case where the webmaster may be required to reveal the ID of the person making defamatory statements.




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Tuesday, November 13, 2018 8:09 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Is calling someone a Nazi, or a misogynist, or a white nationalist libelous ?
Hmmm... good question! Calling someone a misogynist is probably NOT libel, unless you're linking it to a pattern of behavior.

Calling someone a nazi?
Quote:

Warning to chatroom users after libel award for man labelled a Nazi

A political argument that erupted in a remote corner of cyberspace and descended into vicious name-calling could lead to a spate of libel actions by contributors to internet message boards, the man at the centre of the case claimed yesterday.

The dark side of the blogosphere was revealed by a libel action brought by Michael Keith-Smith, a former Conservative party member who stood for Ukip in Portsmouth North at the last election. He said he was moved to sue after a woman with whom he was debating the merits of military action in Iraq began a campaign of name-calling that started by describing him as "lard brain" and culminated in falsely labelling him a "Nazi", a "racist bigot" and a "nonce".

Tracy Williams, a college lecturer from Oldham, was ordered by a high court judge to pay £10,000 in damages, as well as Mr Keith-Smith's £7,200 costs, and told never to repeat the allegations.

The case is one of the first of its kind between two private individuals to go to court and, said lawyers, highlighted issues that would become more prominent as internet usage continued to grow and blogging, social networking and community sites became yet more popular.

Mr Keith-Smith told the Guardian that he took action after a debate about the Iraq war in 2003 on a Yahoo! message board with about 100 members turned ugly. "She was very pro-Bush. Initially, she called me lard brain and I wasn't particularly concerned about that. Then she called me a Nazi," he said.
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He has also taken action against a second poster, he said, with whom he claimed to have settled for a sum "in the region of £30,000".

"They started saying I was on a sex offenders' list and that people shouldn't let me near their children," said Mr Keith-Smith, who is also chairman of the Conservative Democratic Alliance, which bills itself as "the leading voice of the radical Tory right".

He resolved to take legal action after the pair accused his wife of being a prostitute. But once his solicitors petitioned the court to find out the identity of Ms Williams, who contributed to the forum under a pseudonym, the abuse got worse.

"It's a matter of principle. I had no proof that anyone who read this took it seriously. I just didn't see why she should be allowed to get away with it," he said.

Legal experts said the case should be taken as a warning to the millions of people in the UK debating contentious issues on message boards, in chatrooms and on their own blogs that the laws of libel applied just as they would if the comments were published in a leaflet or newsletter.


https://www.theguardian.com/media/2006/mar/23/digitalmedia.law

Of course, that was in Britain so their laws may differ, but if it was clear that someone was being called an ACTUAL "Nazi" ... even here ... like belonging to a Nazi party ... I think that would qualify as libel.

"White nationalist" is a lot more specific than "Nazi" because a lot of people throw the "Nazi" term around. Calling someone a "white nationalist" is getting pretty close to implying that they belong to a hate group. If someone was falsely accused of being (say) a member of the KKK that's clearly libel.

I think you should look here:

https://www.eff.org/issues/bloggers/legal/liability/defamation

It's complicated when the posters are cloaked by anonymity. The EFF is currently involved in a case where the webmaster may be required to reveal the ID of the person making defamatory statements.




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It's pretty certain the laws in the UK are different. They have no constitutional amendment for free speech in the first place, and when this happened the EU was already running the show anyhow.


I'm constantly being called a Nazi or misogynist here by the clowns. Who gives a shit? It just shows the limited vocabularies they have and the inability to debate that their low double digit IQs afford them.

You two should go ruin facebook if you're going to start throwing lawsuits around and leave fff.net alone.

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Tuesday, November 13, 2018 10:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Is calling someone a Nazi, or a misogynist, or a white nationalist libelous ?
Hmmm... good question! Calling someone a misogynist is probably NOT libel, unless you're linking it to a pattern of behavior.

Calling someone a nazi?
Quote:

Warning to chatroom users after libel award for man labelled a Nazi

A political argument that erupted in a remote corner of cyberspace and descended into vicious name-calling could lead to a spate of libel actions by contributors to internet message boards, the man at the centre of the case claimed yesterday.

The dark side of the blogosphere was revealed by a libel action brought by Michael Keith-Smith, a former Conservative party member who stood for Ukip in Portsmouth North at the last election. He said he was moved to sue after a woman with whom he was debating the merits of military action in Iraq began a campaign of name-calling that started by describing him as "lard brain" and culminated in falsely labelling him a "Nazi", a "racist bigot" and a "nonce".

Tracy Williams, a college lecturer from Oldham, was ordered by a high court judge to pay £10,000 in damages, as well as Mr Keith-Smith's £7,200 costs, and told never to repeat the allegations.

The case is one of the first of its kind between two private individuals to go to court and, said lawyers, highlighted issues that would become more prominent as internet usage continued to grow and blogging, social networking and community sites became yet more popular.

Mr Keith-Smith told the Guardian that he took action after a debate about the Iraq war in 2003 on a Yahoo! message board with about 100 members turned ugly. "She was very pro-Bush. Initially, she called me lard brain and I wasn't particularly concerned about that. Then she called me a Nazi," he said.
Sign up to the Media Briefing: news for the news-makers
Read more

He has also taken action against a second poster, he said, with whom he claimed to have settled for a sum "in the region of £30,000".

"They started saying I was on a sex offenders' list and that people shouldn't let me near their children," said Mr Keith-Smith, who is also chairman of the Conservative Democratic Alliance, which bills itself as "the leading voice of the radical Tory right".

He resolved to take legal action after the pair accused his wife of being a prostitute. But once his solicitors petitioned the court to find out the identity of Ms Williams, who contributed to the forum under a pseudonym, the abuse got worse.

"It's a matter of principle. I had no proof that anyone who read this took it seriously. I just didn't see why she should be allowed to get away with it," he said.

Legal experts said the case should be taken as a warning to the millions of people in the UK debating contentious issues on message boards, in chatrooms and on their own blogs that the laws of libel applied just as they would if the comments were published in a leaflet or newsletter.


https://www.theguardian.com/media/2006/mar/23/digitalmedia.law

Of course, that was in Britain so their laws may differ, but if it was clear that someone was being called an ACTUAL "Nazi" ... even here ... like belonging to a Nazi party ... I think that would qualify as libel.

"White nationalist" is a lot more specific than "Nazi" because a lot of people throw the "Nazi" term around. Calling someone a "white nationalist" is getting pretty close to implying that they belong to a hate group. If someone was falsely accused of being (say) a member of the KKK that's clearly libel.

I think you should look here:

https://www.eff.org/issues/bloggers/legal/liability/defamation

It's complicated when the posters are cloaked by anonymity. The EFF is currently involved in a case where the webmaster may be required to reveal the ID of the person making defamatory statements.




It's pretty certain the laws in the UK are different. They have no constitutional amendment for free speech in the first place, and when this happened the EU was already running the show anyhow.

I'm constantly being called a Nazi or misogynist here by the clowns. Who gives a shit? It just shows the limited vocabularies they have and the inability to debate that their low double digit IQs afford them.

You two should go ruin facebook if you're going to start throwing lawsuits around and leave fff.net alone.




Didn't we just go through all of this idiocy?

I agree with Jack fwiw - across the board on this one.

We don't know who you are and proving that your reputation has been damaged (pretty essential for defamation and libel) when there are no names and only 10 users here is a joke.

People may also want to look up "frivolous lawsuit" to get some more schooling on what they threaten:

https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/what-is-a-frivolous-law
suit.html


"Are There Any Consequences for Filing a Frivolous Lawsuit?

Filing a frivolous lawsuit is usually looked down upon by courts. In most cases, filing a frivolous lawsuit will lead to a civil fine of a certain amount of dollars (sometimes in the thousands). It may also lead to a contempt order. In serious cases or repeat filings, criminal consequences can result. If a court identifies a lawsuit as frivolous, they will usually dismiss the filing immediately without looking into the claims more or investigating evidence.

Abuse of the legal system is a serious matter and is not treated lightly. Thus, one should only file a lawsuit if they are certain that there claim has merit and is likely to succeed. Also, lawsuit should never be filed for personal reasons or to "get back" at a certain person or corporation."

Face it, the only one who would "win" would be the shyster lawyer who told you you had a case.

Personally, I think threatening someone with a lawsuit is much worse than name calling.

Having said all that... I will be happy to ignore any poster here. You don't post a comment on something I post and I'll return the gesture. In a number of cases it would be my pleasure, just ask.

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Tuesday, November 13, 2018 1:09 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


GSTRING:
Quote:

Face it, the only one who would "win" would be the shyster lawyer who told you you had a case.
If you had to spend the $$$ to travel to CA (where I live) more than once just to defend yourself, I'd consider that a "win".

Just stop throwing the term "Russian troll" around - or implying that I'm Russian, or live in Russia, or all the other ASSHOLE things that you do along those lines and you'll be fine, and you won't feel AT ALL "threatened" by lawsuit.

Unless, of course, you want to stand on your right to be an asshole, but who would want to do THAT? ... Except assholes of course.

SIX:
Quote:

They have no constitutional amendment for free speech in the first place,
That has fuck-all to do with this. "free speech" has NEVER protected libel, and the internet does not give you (or anyone) the right to say anything about anybody; that has been clearly demonstrated in court already. And the people who are "ruining" FFF.net are GSTRING, SHTF, WISHY etc. Apparently, appealing to their better natures doesn't work, so maybe fear of retribution will get them to moderate themselves and throttle their inner bully. Maybe then we can relate on reasonable grounds.

If you really want me to desist, you're going to have to do a lot better than just saying that I'm "ruining" this website; you're going to have to convince me of the error of my ways. So, start convincing me that your moral code is superior: I'm listening.



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Tuesday, November 13, 2018 6:12 PM

THG


Fuck you sig you commie troll. Now, sue that or shut up asshole.



Hey, you guys know what white supremacist hate more than Jews, Polaks. Who here fits that description? kiki and sig to name two. Who loves the Polak hater Trump, kiki and sig to name two.

Fucking dummies. T


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Tuesday, November 13, 2018 7:47 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

If you really want me to desist, you're going to have to do a lot better than just saying that I'm "ruining" this website; you're going to have to convince me of the error of my ways. So, start convincing me that your moral code is superior: I'm listening.



Well... firstly....

You literally will be ruining what's left of this website if you are even moderately successful in your attempts to inconvenience people IRL by doing this.

The BEST case scenario IMO is that you get laughed out of court and it doesn't go anywhere. Getting progressively worse, you are successful in making people have to fly out to California and obtain expensive legal consul. At this point, I would hope that they not only won the case, but that you and Kiki were ordered to pay for their legal fees, airfare and room and board, and loss of wages while defending themselves.

The WORST case scenario IMO is that you are successful. I can't imagine any world where this wouldn't become a national news story. Hell... we might even get a few of the actors and actresses from Firefly to weigh in on what's gone on here. My guess is they'd condemn the whole damn site over what choice bits would be pulled out of the history of the RWED board and actively voice their disgust for all of us.

At this point, it is very likely that many people who posted here under an anonymous handle would be doxxed, and our real names and pictures shared on the internet along side of remarks that we had made in the past. No matter how old they are or whether we agree with them or not in November of 2018 will matter not in the court of public opinion.

In my "special" case, I have literally no clue what I've said here back when I was posting drunk all the time. Some of it must have been really bad since Wishy hates me.

I've never gone back and deleted anything I've said, though I've been too embarrassed to go back and look at any of it because the little bits that I did see were cringe inducing. I could just imagine tweets by Kaylee talking about what a disgusting human being I am, thanks to your lawsuit. I'll be sure to write you a nice thank you letter for that if it were to ever happen.





Bottom line though is, what's your ROI here? I honestly don't see any, unless of course you were able to take a sizeable chunk out of Second's wealth in the process. I get the feeling that everyone else here you'd be going after are lower middle class at best.

You've got about 10 regular posters to the RWED on a good day now. Who gives a shit if they call you a Russian or me a Nazi. I know you're not and you know that I'm not. I'm pretty sure that they're aware of it as well, but it makes them feel good to say it anyhow.


In the best case scenario I laid out above, I think one of two things would happen as a side effect as well. Number one would be that Haken would just pull the plug and kill the site. It's pretty amazing to me that he goes to the effort and cost to still keep it up and it's a testiment to his love for the show. He didn't sign up for a bunch of legal bullshit though. Number two would be that anybody left posting here would likely scatter. In that event, do you honestly see yourself and Kiki posting a bunch of links to zerohedge to each other everyday when there was nobody here to argue with?




Some have claimed that I'm not right in the head. Even though I've been turning my life around and improving things, they're probably not wrong. If I were "normal" I'd have a smart phone and I'd be writing all of my political beliefs on Facebook like all the other normies. I rather like it here in the shadows instead.

I think everyone of us who remains to this day are somewhat eccentric. I also don't think that there is anything wrong with that. We eccentrics make the world a little more interesting.


Stop being so sensitive, you two. Nobody gives a shit what a bunch of turds in a ghost-town of a 17 year dead TV show has to say about each other.


I'll give you the same piece of advice I give to T and Second about not making their political views part of who they are so they don't take it so personally....

YOU are NOT your avitar here. Any personal shit flung at you in the RWED only sticks to you IRL if you bring it back with you when you're not sitting at your computer.

Just laugh it off. It's not as if you two are the only people in the world right now being mislabeled as Russian bots by idiots online. That shit is a dime a dozen in 2018. You are not special, and they are not original.

~6ixStringJack, Alleged racist, mysoginst & Nazi... signing off

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Oh. And by the way, T.

I'm still waiting on you to provide any evidence of my alleged hypocrisy.

I'll refer you to my recent posts in this thread defending your right to be an insufferable asshole as evidence against those claims.



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