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Investor's Business Daily: Russian Collusion: It Was Hillary Clinton All Along

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Wednesday, August 15, 2018 11:17 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Now here's an interesting take, from Investor's Business Daily

Quote:

Russia Investigation: It's beginning to look as if claims of monstrous collusion between Russian officials and U.S. political operatives were true. But it wasn't Donald Trump who was guilty of Russian collusion. It was Hillary Clinton and U.S. intelligence officials who worked with Russians and others to entrap Trump.

That's the stunning conclusion of a RealClear Investigations report by Lee Smith, who looked in-depth at the controversial June 2016 Trump Tower meeting between officials of then-candidate Donald Trump's campaign staff and a Russian lawyer known to have ties with high-level officials in Vladimir Putin's government.

The media have spun a tale of Trump selling his soul to the Russians for campaign dirt to use against Hillary, beginning with the now-infamous Trump Tower meeting.

But "a growing body of evidence ... indicates that the meeting may have been a setup — part of a broad effort to tarnish the Trump campaign involving Hillary Clinton operatives employed by Kremlin-linked figures and Department of Justice officials," wrote Smith.

Smith painstakingly weaves together the evidence that's already out there but has been largely ignored by the mainstream media, which have become so seized with Trump-hatred that their reporting even on routine matters can no longer be trusted.

But he adds in more evidence that the Justice Department only recently handed over to Congress. And It's damning.

Memos, emails and texts now in Congress' possession show that the Justice Department and the FBI worked together both before and after the election with Fusion GPS and their main link to the scandal, former British spy and longtime FBI informant Chris Steele.

As a former British spook in Moscow, Steele had extensive ties to Russia. That's why he was picked as the primary researcher to compile the "unverified and salacious" Trump dossier, as former FBI Director James Comey once described it.

Steele's dossier, for which Fusion reportedly received $1 million, was largely based on interviews with Russian officials. And who paid that $1 million? As we and others have reported, it was Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Democratic National Committee, then under Hillary's control.

The media knew all this, of course, but largely ignored it.

The great irony here is that, after more than two years of investigating, the only real evidence of collusion with Russians at all points to Hillary Clinton. It was she who hired Steele to dig up dirt on Trump using Russian sources.

But now, it turns out, it goes even deeper than that.


Events surrounding that now-famous June 2016 Trump meeting suggest it, too, was a concoction of Hillary Clinton and her deep-state allies. And that meeting was the basis for much of the later Russian collusion "investigation," if it can even be called that.

Bruce Ohr, the No. 4-ranking official at the Justice Department, "coordinated before, during and after the election" with both Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson and with Steele, notes Smith.

This shouldn't come as a surprise, given that Ohr's wife Nellie, a sometime employee of the CIA, was also working for Fusion GPS.

Doesn't that represent a fundamental conflict of interest?

Quote:

The FBI fired Steele in October 2016 after it discovered that he leaked information to the press. But that meant nothing. Bruce Ohr merely continued as the conduit from Fusion GPS for information related to Steele's bogus Trump dossier.

The FBI and Justice used information from that 35-page document as the pretense for the FISA wiretap on Trump aide Carter Page. Far from being limited in scope, those wiretaps in essence provided a backdoor key to the entire Trump campaign — and the basis for the Russian investigation.

So far so good.

But an earlier investigation by RealClearPolitics showed that as early as March 2016, the FBI, other Western intelligence sources and Clinton campaign operatives contacted the Trump campaign about potentially damaging information about Clinton.

They were in effect live-trolling the campaign.

This is significant. Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Putin-connected lawyer who contacted the Trump campaign about having dirt on Hillary Clinton, was a client of Fusion GPS when she met with Donald Trump Jr. and others in the Trump campaign.

And she was accompanied by a former Soviet military counterintelligence official, now working as a lobbyist, named Rinat Akhmetshin.

Let that sink in for a moment.

What's especially curious is that Fusion GPS' Glenn Simpson admits he had dinner with Veselnitskaya both the night before and the night after the Trump Tower meeting.

Any possibility there was no discussion of the meeting between the two? Seems highly unlikely. Veselnitskaya herself subsequently claimed that the talking points for her meeting with the Trump people were provided to her by Simpson.

Once in the meeting, she quickly dropped the promises of having dirt on Hillary Clinton and instead brought up Russia's long-standing desire to get rid of the Magnitsky Act, under which the U.S. imposed sanctions on a number of Russian moguls and government officials.

In short, they were baiting a trap for the Trump campaign to make it appear as if they were colluding with Russian officials.

Given the nonstop media coverage following leaks by the FBI and Justice, it seems the meeting served its purpose: It sowed the seeds of suspicion about the Trump campaign's supposed Russian collusion.

The evidence goes even deeper than what we have summarized here. We suggest you read Smith's piece, linked above.

Congress, using the documents it pried out of the Justice Department after repeated requests,

and threats
Quote:

is busy getting at what might turn out to be the scandal of the century. And Congress is now doing the work the Justice Department and FBI won't.

"So here you have information flowing from the Clinton campaign from the Russians," House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rep. Devin Nunes told Fox News on Sunday.

Nunes, who heads Congress' investigation into the matter, said it was likely that information "was handed directly from Russian propaganda arms to the Clinton campaign, fed into the top levels of the FBI and Department of Justice to open up a counterintelligence investigation into a political campaign that has now colluded (with) nearly every top official at the DOJ and FBI over the course of the last couple years. Absolutely amazing."

We have to agree. If all that is true, it is absolutely amazing. After all, these are serious felonies, using the federal agencies to spy on a political opponent in league with a hostile foreign power.

As we said, the only real collusion appears to be on the part of the Clinton campaign — aided by the Obama administration, CIA chief John Brennan and a handful of high-level officials at the Department of Justice and FBI.

What's next? It's possible the collusion investigation soon will turn from Trump to Clinton. If so, it could lead to more resignations and possibly jail time for those involved. That includes perhaps even Hillary Clinton, who sits at the political epicenter of all this illegality.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/russian-collusion-hillar
y-clinton
/

I agree with most of this, except that it's not Hillary who's at the center of this, it's Brennan. Now, who BRENNAN takes his orders from is yet to be determined.

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Wednesday, August 15, 2018 6:08 PM

WHOZIT


Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity have been saying this for months, but they're conservatives so we had to wait for IBD?

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Wednesday, August 15, 2018 7:21 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Now here's an interesting take, from Investor's Business Daily

Quote:

Russia Investigation: It's beginning to look as if claims of monstrous collusion between Russian officials and U.S. political operatives were true. But it wasn't Donald Trump who was guilty of Russian collusion. It was Hillary Clinton and U.S. intelligence officials who worked with Russians and others to entrap Trump.

That's the stunning conclusion of a RealClear Investigations report by Lee Smith, who looked in-depth at the controversial June 2016 Trump Tower meeting between officials of then-candidate Donald Trump's campaign staff and a Russian lawyer known to have ties with high-level officials in Vladimir Putin's government.

The media have spun a tale of Trump selling his soul to the Russians for campaign dirt to use against Hillary, beginning with the now-infamous Trump Tower meeting.

But "a growing body of evidence ... indicates that the meeting may have been a setup — part of a broad effort to tarnish the Trump campaign involving Hillary Clinton operatives employed by Kremlin-linked figures and Department of Justice officials," wrote Smith.

Smith painstakingly weaves together the evidence that's already out there but has been largely ignored by the mainstream media, which have become so seized with Trump-hatred that their reporting even on routine matters can no longer be trusted.

But he adds in more evidence that the Justice Department only recently handed over to Congress. And It's damning.

Memos, emails and texts now in Congress' possession show that the Justice Department and the FBI worked together both before and after the election with Fusion GPS and their main link to the scandal, former British spy and longtime FBI informant Chris Steele.

As a former British spook in Moscow, Steele had extensive ties to Russia. That's why he was picked as the primary researcher to compile the "unverified and salacious" Trump dossier, as former FBI Director James Comey once described it.

Steele's dossier, for which Fusion reportedly received $1 million, was largely based on interviews with Russian officials. And who paid that $1 million? As we and others have reported, it was Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Democratic National Committee, then under Hillary's control.

The media knew all this, of course, but largely ignored it.

The great irony here is that, after more than two years of investigating, the only real evidence of collusion with Russians at all points to Hillary Clinton. It was she who hired Steele to dig up dirt on Trump using Russian sources.

But now, it turns out, it goes even deeper than that.


Events surrounding that now-famous June 2016 Trump meeting suggest it, too, was a concoction of Hillary Clinton and her deep-state allies. And that meeting was the basis for much of the later Russian collusion "investigation," if it can even be called that.

Bruce Ohr, the No. 4-ranking official at the Justice Department, "coordinated before, during and after the election" with both Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson and with Steele, notes Smith.

This shouldn't come as a surprise, given that Ohr's wife Nellie, a sometime employee of the CIA, was also working for Fusion GPS.

Doesn't that represent a fundamental conflict of interest?

Quote:

The FBI fired Steele in October 2016 after it discovered that he leaked information to the press. But that meant nothing. Bruce Ohr merely continued as the conduit from Fusion GPS for information related to Steele's bogus Trump dossier.

The FBI and Justice used information from that 35-page document as the pretense for the FISA wiretap on Trump aide Carter Page. Far from being limited in scope, those wiretaps in essence provided a backdoor key to the entire Trump campaign — and the basis for the Russian investigation.

So far so good.

But an earlier investigation by RealClearPolitics showed that as early as March 2016, the FBI, other Western intelligence sources and Clinton campaign operatives contacted the Trump campaign about potentially damaging information about Clinton.

They were in effect live-trolling the campaign.

This is significant. Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Putin-connected lawyer who contacted the Trump campaign about having dirt on Hillary Clinton, was a client of Fusion GPS when she met with Donald Trump Jr. and others in the Trump campaign.

And she was accompanied by a former Soviet military counterintelligence official, now working as a lobbyist, named Rinat Akhmetshin.

Let that sink in for a moment.

What's especially curious is that Fusion GPS' Glenn Simpson admits he had dinner with Veselnitskaya both the night before and the night after the Trump Tower meeting.

Any possibility there was no discussion of the meeting between the two? Seems highly unlikely. Veselnitskaya herself subsequently claimed that the talking points for her meeting with the Trump people were provided to her by Simpson.

Once in the meeting, she quickly dropped the promises of having dirt on Hillary Clinton and instead brought up Russia's long-standing desire to get rid of the Magnitsky Act, under which the U.S. imposed sanctions on a number of Russian moguls and government officials.

In short, they were baiting a trap for the Trump campaign to make it appear as if they were colluding with Russian officials.

Given the nonstop media coverage following leaks by the FBI and Justice, it seems the meeting served its purpose: It sowed the seeds of suspicion about the Trump campaign's supposed Russian collusion.

The evidence goes even deeper than what we have summarized here. We suggest you read Smith's piece, linked above.

Congress, using the documents it pried out of the Justice Department after repeated requests,

and threats
Quote:

is busy getting at what might turn out to be the scandal of the century. And Congress is now doing the work the Justice Department and FBI won't.

"So here you have information flowing from the Clinton campaign from the Russians," House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rep. Devin Nunes told Fox News on Sunday.

Nunes, who heads Congress' investigation into the matter, said it was likely that information "was handed directly from Russian propaganda arms to the Clinton campaign, fed into the top levels of the FBI and Department of Justice to open up a counterintelligence investigation into a political campaign that has now colluded (with) nearly every top official at the DOJ and FBI over the course of the last couple years. Absolutely amazing."

We have to agree. If all that is true, it is absolutely amazing. After all, these are serious felonies, using the federal agencies to spy on a political opponent in league with a hostile foreign power.

As we said, the only real collusion appears to be on the part of the Clinton campaign — aided by the Obama administration, CIA chief John Brennan and a handful of high-level officials at the Department of Justice and FBI.

What's next? It's possible the collusion investigation soon will turn from Trump to Clinton. If so, it could lead to more resignations and possibly jail time for those involved. That includes perhaps even Hillary Clinton, who sits at the political epicenter of all this illegality.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/russian-collusion-hillar
y-clinton
/

I agree with most of this, except that it's not Hillary who's at the center of this, it's Brennan. Now, who BRENNAN takes his orders from is yet to be determined.

Now, come on. How many reasonable people didn't already know this? You act as if any of it is news.

Brennan takes his orders from The Communist Party. At the height of the Cold War, he kept voting for Gus Hall, Communist Party leader, who's mission was to overthrow the U.S. Government. How he obtained a security clearance is only understood at the depths of the Party of Libtards.

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Wednesday, August 15, 2018 8:50 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity have been saying this for months, but they're conservatives so we had to wait for IBD?
Well, you know that some people around here wouldn't agree that the sun rose in the east if that piece of info came from the "wrong" source.


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Thursday, August 16, 2018 8:51 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity have been saying this for months, but they're conservatives so we had to wait for IBD?
Well, you know that some people around here wouldn't agree that the sun rose in the east if that piece of info came from the "wrong" source.



That's almost everybody here. And really, who can blame them?

Our Media today is a circus freakshow. There is absolutely zero objectivity, and you will get two entirely different versions to a story depending on who you get your news from.



Is it scary that Trump is saying that the Media is the enemy of the people?

You're goddanmned right it is. Especially since there is such a clear ring of truth to it. Anybody who supports Trump when he says something like this should imagine if Obama said it, or if the next Democrat president said it and think about what that would mean to them.

It still wouldn't be any less true of a statement, but it would be coming from the other side, which for most people makes all the difference.




Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, August 16, 2018 10:39 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


The 90% of the media is owned by six corporations. https://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the
-media-in-america-2012-6
If anyone believes that they don't have their own interests and their own spin they're gorramn fools.

One should trust our MSM about as much as one should trust any other media. (Just like one should trust our politicians as much as one should trust a foreign politician). "Trust" should be earned through repeated demonstration of reliably honest behavior. "Trust" shouldn't be automatically assigned when dealing with TPTB. I don't know where people get this puppy-like subservience from, but in the end it's self-defeating.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Thursday, August 16, 2018 12:00 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The 90% of the media is owned by six corporations. https://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the
-media-in-america-2012-6
If anyone believes that they don't have their own interests and their own spin they're gorramn fools.



And I would say you are even more of a fool if you recognize that ^ but still don't get how "news media" works, especially MSM. It's not one size fits all for starters.

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
One should trust our MSM about as much as one should trust any other media. (Just like one should trust our politicians as much as one should trust a foreign politician). "Trust" should be earned through repeated demonstration of reliably honest behavior. "Trust" shouldn't be automatically assigned when dealing with TPTB. I don't know where people get this puppy-like subservience from, but in the end it's self-defeating.



Such blanket statements only illustrate how little you understand "news media."

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Thursday, August 16, 2018 1:20 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Such blanket statements only illustrate how little you understand "news media."
Says the person who makes blanket statements like this one.

I understand "the media" just fine, and most likely I understand it a whole lot better than you do. I'm simply not going to get into a prolonged discussion, trying to "prove" that I understand the media just because you lob snarky comments from the side. I noticed that you almost never express an opinion or share information because doing that just might reveal what a know-nothing you really are, and expose you to rightful questions and pushback. You're still basically a troll.

So bugger off, young man.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Thursday, August 16, 2018 7:05 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity have been saying this for months, but they're conservatives so we had to wait for IBD?
Well, you know that some people around here wouldn't agree that the sun rose in the east if that piece of info came from the "wrong" source.


That's almost everybody here. And really, who can blame them?

Our Media today is a circus freakshow. There is absolutely zero objectivity, and you will get two entirely different versions to a story depending on who you get your news from.



Is it scary that Trump is saying that the Media is the enemy of the people?

What is scary is that there are Libtards like you regurgitating Fake News like this as if it is true. Trump is saying that Fake News is the Enemy of the American People, which is clearly true, always has been true, and always will be true. You spouting your lies to try to convince others of your paranoid delusions is a complete waste of webserver space.

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Thursday, August 16, 2018 11:22 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The 90% of the media is owned by six corporations. https://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the
-media-in-america-2012-6
If anyone believes that they don't have their own interests and their own spin they're gorramn fools.

One should trust our MSM about as much as one should trust any other media. (Just like one should trust our politicians as much as one should trust a foreign politician). "Trust" should be earned through repeated demonstration of reliably honest behavior. "Trust" shouldn't be automatically assigned when dealing with TPTB. I don't know where people get this puppy-like subservience from, but in the end it's self-defeating.

Wasn't this subservience the whole purpose of Public Schools and Department of Educamation? Why else would we be perma-medicating our young-uns?

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Friday, August 17, 2018 5:23 AM

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...and Obama helped by hypnotizing Trump to make him praize Putin at every oportunity.

It all makes sens now!

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Friday, August 17, 2018 8:47 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I understand "the media" just fine, and most likely I understand it a whole lot better than you do. I'm simply not going to get into a prolonged discussion, trying to "prove" that I understand the media just because you lob snarky comments from the side. I noticed that you almost never express an opinion or share information because doing that just might reveal what a know-nothing you really are, and expose you to rightful questions and pushback. You're still basically a troll.



And yet you clearly don't.
And thanks for adding a lie about people here again being subservient to MSM - no one here is btw on either "side." Top tip: when you have to lie to prove your point it's not much of a point.

And thank the gods you don't want to get into a prolonged discussion! I've seen that movie before... tedious and boring. I'd rather watch you and second "discuss" things.

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Friday, August 17, 2018 9:09 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The 90% of the media is owned by six corporations. https://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the
-media-in-america-2012-6
If anyone believes that they don't have their own interests and their own spin they're gorramn fools.



And I would say you are even more of a fool if you recognize that ^ but still don't get how "news media" works, especially MSM. It's not one size fits all for starters.



It isn't, huh?



I can show you many, many more videos about this spanning at least the last decade if you'd like.

BTW... this was from the USA Today youtube account, and it has a very anti-Trump spin to it, which I assume should be able to keep your attention for a few minutes.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, August 18, 2018 3:34 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


FAKE FUCKING NEWS


NEXT!


sgg

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Saturday, August 18, 2018 7:20 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
FAKE FUCKING NEWS


NEXT!


sgg



What's fake? What I posted?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, August 18, 2018 8:26 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It isn't, huh?



Seen that vid a couple times - funny stuff, scary even, but if you think it proves MSM is one size fits all your head is on crooked. Try again.

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Saturday, August 18, 2018 11:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I understand "the media" just fine, and most likely I understand it a whole lot better than you do. I'm simply not going to get into a prolonged discussion, trying to "prove" that I understand the media just because you lob snarky comments from the side. I noticed that you almost never express an opinion or share information because doing that just might reveal what a know-nothing you really are, and expose you to rightful questions and pushback. You're still basically a troll.



And yet you clearly don't.
And thanks for adding a lie about people here again being subservient to MSM - no one here is btw on either "side." Top tip: when you have to lie to prove your point it's not much of a point.

And thank the gods you don't want to get into a prolonged discussion! I've seen that movie before... tedious and boring. I'd rather watch you and second "discuss" things.

The thing about me (second) is that I often point to the external world by including URLs, most of which are from MSM because the typical scientific and engineering journal doesn't cover the subjects.

Signym, on the other hand, does things backwards and upside down. Signym turns the whole world inside out by always pointing to her internal organs, her guts, her opinions, her interpretations, her feelings. Signym writes to you to see the world that she experiences, see it through her eyes as if her gut-feelings have some weight in the world. I think they don't. I want you to see the world as it is, a planet unaffected by my opinions.

I am not ever believing anything that filters through Signym's mind because I think Signym is either a Russian troll or crazy. I can't be sure which because I don't have eyes on her, to watch her behavior beyond fireflyfans.net. I can be sure with Trump. He is both a troll and crazy. I can be sure of it because there are thousands of eyes on him, many of those eyes in the MSM. And they have been reporting his life for decades in great detail. Trump hates details. Trump has a lot of imagination, but doesn't have the details necessary for convicting Hillary or Brennan of felonies:
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We have to agree. If all that is true, it is absolutely amazing. After all, these are serious felonies, using the federal agencies to spy on a political opponent in league with a hostile foreign power.
The key words: "If all that is true". Too bad it isn't true. Too bad it is all in Trump's and Signym's imagination. Too bad Trump and Signym can't find after 1.5 years of looking any law officers to place their careers on the line and arrest Hillary and Brennan on false charges. To arrest Hillary and Brennan based on Trump's and Signym's imagination would end any law officer's career. All the lawmen know it, none of them have stepped forward to make those arrests. On the other hand, Trump's people have been arrested, gone before a judge, pleaded guilty. That is reality. When I find a URL that says "Hillary and Brennan NOT arrested today!" I will post it. Until then, take it on faith that she and he haven't.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, August 19, 2018 12:25 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


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Is it scary that Trump is saying that the Media is the enemy of the people?


You almost had me there Six, so close.

Quote:

You're goddanmned right it is. Especially since there is such a clear ring of truth to it. Anybody who supports Trump when he says something like this should imagine if Obama said it, or if the next Democrat president said it and think about what that would mean to them.


...but then, back to reality. I really thought you were an independent thinker, just for a split...then you go ahead and make this statement.
And no, Obama is not trump. He would never say something so totally
clueless (notice I'm being nice about this, so that you actual read my
words and possibly pay attention for once).


Quote:

It still wouldn't be any less true of a statement, but it would be coming from the other side, which for most people makes all the difference.


You know, with people like you, Siggy, Kiki and Jewels - among others - we
would still be speaking British today. Of course, I'm talking about the european conquest of this country. Go ahead, ask me why, I dare you.


SGG



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Sunday, August 19, 2018 12:36 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


I was responding to Sig's initial post. Yours is just above.


SGG


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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
FAKE FUCKING NEWS


NEXT!


sgg



What's fake? What I posted?

Do Right, Be Right. :)


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Sunday, August 19, 2018 1:06 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Finally took a look at your post. I really am almost speechless. Where do
I start? Holy shit, Batman, the Riddler really gave us a brain-twister.
That's like a titty-twister except it twists your brain. I feel I should explain that to you s-l-o-w-l-y
since you are under the influence...

First off, it is ANTI-Trump. So far, that's a good sign that you have brain function.
Second, you do know that Trump has an organization that IS a corporation, right!?
And that he tried to buy a media outlet known as
Sinclair.
You with me? And what do you think he wants with his own media
outlet?
To spread his truth, of course. Fox is too warm and cuddly for his liking.
He wants to call the shots. And why not, it's his money, isn't it?

So to say the media is bias, well bless my soul we have a conspiracy
theorist in our midst. Well sir, you are the first, aren't you!? Wow,
how original. Fuzzywumps wants his media to report how great he is, of
course, it makes sense. My media outlet, my stories of what I see fit.
So truth is all relative. My God man, you have discovered something so
big.....news outlets tell a story at an angle....even the GREAT Fox News
Corp. My, my, my will wonders never cease.

By the way, that little clip is ragging on Kushner, Trump and company for
the cult-like treatment of the news...Repeat after me, Trump knows all...
film at 11.

Oh, and one more thing...yeah, I want to see the many, many videos...let's go
"spanning" the world. Hmm, shall we?


SGG


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The 90% of the media is owned by six corporations. https://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the
-media-in-america-2012-6
If anyone believes that they don't have their own interests and their own spin they're gorramn fools.



And I would say you are even more of a fool if you recognize that ^ but still don't get how "news media" works, especially MSM. It's not one size fits all for starters.



It isn't, huh?



I can show you many, many more videos about this spanning at least the last decade if you'd like.

BTW... this was from the USA Today youtube account, and it has a very anti-Trump spin to it, which I assume should be able to keep your attention for a few minutes.

Do Right, Be Right. :)


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