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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Thought this thread was going to be about US Senators being chosen by the state govt's, and not elected by the public.

As it should be.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Census had a press release on 30 Dec 2019. They dodged and weaved around the facts, but some data could be discerned from it. I have not yet found a set of actual raw data from them. This is all a report of the Census data for 1 July 2019.

https://census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2019/popest-nation.html

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Alright, I'll see if I can pack in the new data, alongside the data from last year.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Census had a press release on 30 Dec 2019. They dodged and weaved around the facts, but some data could be discerned from it. I have not yet found a set of actual raw data from them. This is all a report of the Census data for 1 July 2019.


https://census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2019/popest-nation.html


Here I have copied a prior table, where I extrapolated the projected 1 July Population figures, and I will add a last column or 2 which reflect the data that was just provided.


Well, now that I've filled out the portions of data that they've provided, I can see that none of the numbers add up. The figures that they had for 2018 and now for 2019, the differences do not add to what they state are the differences. So maybe they revised some data from last year. I'll need to look into this.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
The BLS has released data about Labor Force figures for States. I am now using the change from March 2018 to March 2019 to provide indication of population change, and show resulting projections. These trends are now during the Trump Economy, and are quite different that the prior part of the decade.

This is not a comprehensive analysis, just a snapshot of the annual effect the current Trump Economy has had, and extrapolated upon the Estimates of July 2018 from the Census Bureau.
For example, WA Labor Force went from 3,770,820 in March 2018 to 3,892,959 in March 2019 (not Seasonally Adjusted), an increase of 3.24% in one year. Applied to the 2018 population estimated by The Census Bureau of 7,535,591 results in 7,779,673 for 2019.
Similarly, MS went from 1,276,084 to 1,260,142 - a decrease of 1.25%. Applied to 2018's 2,986,530 gives us 2,949,220 for 2019.

I have noticed with this data that the Trump Economy seems to have populations moving back to cities, Metropolitan areas, and Liberal areas and States - which might be counterproductive to GOP efforts come Election time, and come Reapportionment time for House Seats (effective after Trump leaves Office)

There will apparently be an estimate for 1 July 2019 (from Census Bureau), which would be released around December 2019.




I'll try a Table, with current estimated Population update. This is not correcting for Illegal Aliens overcounting, the figures for current are likely including Illegal Aliens.

First column is Population in the 2010 Census. As reported in 2018.
Second column is current Population (est 1 July 2018). As reported in 2018.
Third column is Projected Population for 2019.


Since the Dems have had control of the House in the year of the Census for the past 80 years, it might be assumed they will use the same Formula for Apportionment in 2020 again.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Alright, I'll see if I can pack in the new data, alongside the data from last year.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Census had a press release on 30 Dec 2019. They dodged and weaved around the facts, but some data could be discerned from it. I have not yet found a set of actual raw data from them. This is all a report of the Census data for 1 July 2019.


https://census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2019/popest-nation.html


Here I have copied a prior table, where I extrapolated the projected 1 July Population figures, and I will add a last column or 2 which reflect the data that was just provided.


Well, now that I've filled out the portions of data that they've provided, I can see that none of the numbers add up. The figures that they had for 2018 and now for 2019, the differences do not add to what they state are the differences. So maybe they revised some data from last year. I'll need to look into this.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
The BLS has released data about Labor Force figures for States. I am now using the change from March 2018 to March 2019 to provide indication of population change, and show resulting projections. These trends are now during the Trump Economy, and are quite different that the prior part of the decade.

This is not a comprehensive analysis, just a snapshot of the annual effect the current Trump Economy has had, and extrapolated upon the Estimates of July 2018 from the Census Bureau.
For example, WA Labor Force went from 3,770,820 in March 2018 to 3,892,959 in March 2019 (not Seasonally Adjusted), an increase of 3.24% in one year. Applied to the 2018 population estimated by The Census Bureau of 7,535,591 results in 7,779,673 for 2019.
Similarly, MS went from 1,276,084 to 1,260,142 - a decrease of 1.25%. Applied to 2018's 2,986,530 gives us 2,949,220 for 2019.

I have noticed with this data that the Trump Economy seems to have populations moving back to cities, Metropolitan areas, and Liberal areas and States - which might be counterproductive to GOP efforts come Election time, and come Reapportionment time for House Seats (effective after Trump leaves Office)

There will apparently be an estimate for 1 July 2019 (from Census Bureau), which would be released around December 2019.




I'll try a Table, with current estimated Population update. This is not correcting for Illegal Aliens overcounting, the figures for current are likely including Illegal Aliens.

First column is Population in the 2010 Census. As reported in 2018.
Second column is current Population (est 1 July 2018). As reported in 2018.
Third column is Projected Population for 2019.


Since the Dems have had control of the House in the year of the Census for the past 80 years, it might be assumed they will use the same Formula for Apportionment in 2020 again.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Ever since the new data from 2019 was released and provided "revised" or whatever data retroactively changing the Census 2010 population counts, I've been wondering if this new Fake Data would have changed the allocation of Representatives for the past 10 years.

As an exercise, I've decide to check that out.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Alright, I'll see if I can pack in the new data, alongside the data from last year.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Census had a press release on 30 Dec 2019. They dodged and weaved around the facts, but some data could be discerned from it. I have not yet found a set of actual raw data from them. This is all a report of the Census data for 1 July 2019.

https://census.gov/newsroom/pre
ss-releases/2019/popest-nation.html

Here I have copied a prior table, where I extrapolated the projected 1 July Population figures, and I will add a last column or 2 which reflect the data that was just provided.

Well, now that I've filled out the portions of data that they've provided, I can see that none of the numbers add up. The figures that they had for 2018 and now for 2019, the differences do not add to what they state are the differences. So maybe they revised some data from last year. I'll need to look into this.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
The BLS has released data about Labor Force figures for States. I am now using the change from March 2018 to March 2019 to provide indication of population change, and show resulting projections. These trends are now during the Trump Economy, and are quite different that the prior part of the decade.

This is not a comprehensive analysis, just a snapshot of the annual effect the current Trump Economy has had, and extrapolated upon the Estimates of July 2018 from the Census Bureau.
For example, WA Labor Force went from 3,770,820 in March 2018 to 3,892,959 in March 2019 (not Seasonally Adjusted), an increase of 3.24% in one year. Applied to the 2018 population estimated by The Census Bureau of 7,535,591 results in 7,779,673 for 2019.
Similarly, MS went from 1,276,084 to 1,260,142 - a decrease of 1.25%. Applied to 2018's 2,986,530 gives us 2,949,220 for 2019.

I have noticed with this data that the Trump Economy seems to have populations moving back to cities, Metropolitan areas, and Liberal areas and States - which might be counterproductive to GOP efforts come Election time, and come Reapportionment time for House Seats (effective after Trump leaves Office)

There will apparently be an estimate for 1 July 2019 (from Census Bureau), which would be released around December 2019.


I'll try a Table, with current estimated Population update. This is not correcting for Illegal Aliens overcounting, the figures for current are likely including Illegal Aliens.

First column is Population in the 2010 Census. As reported in 2018.
Second column is current Population (est 1 July 2018). As reported in 2018.
Third column is Projected Population for 2019.


Since the Dems have had control of the House in the year of the Census for the past 80 years, it might be assumed they will use the same Formula for Apportionment in 2020 again.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Due to Covid, Census Bureau has asked Congress for an extension until April 30, 2021 to report Census results, instead of December 2020.

This would mean the next Congress would be in control at that time. The first time a non-midterm Elected Congress has had the reins. Until now, it has always been Democraps in Majority during Apportionment of Representatives, and they have always used the same formula since apportionment started (when Congress was first limited in size) - even though the same formula is not required.

I wonder if the GOP has a different idea of how State Representatives should be Apportioned?

To be clear, instead of the 2018 Elected House deciding Apportionment this December, the delay would mean next May the Apportionment could be decided, by the House Elected this November (and seated in Jan).

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
So if population trends from 2018-2019 continue into 2020, and the Census results in the above predictions, then NC, AZ, CO, OR, MT will gain a seat, FL will gain 2 seats, and TX will gain 3 seats.
CA, NY, IL, PA, OH, MI, MN, AL, WV, RI will lose a seat.

The final seats to make the cut are IL, NY, TX, MT, FL. Those missing the cut are AL, MN, OH, CA.

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After census ruling, judges dismiss part of similar case
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ORLANDO, Fla. - A three-judge panel in Maryland has dismissed part of a case challenging the...

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Koh’s preliminary injunction suspended that end-of-the-year deadline, giving Census Bureau statisticians time to crunch the numbers for apportionment from the start of November until the end of next April, for the time being.

Previously, the Census Bureau had only half that time for data processing, from the start of October until the end of December.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I am wondering if the Exodus from States was caught in the Census this year. If so, NY and CA, maybe NJ could take a beating.

Did the exodus happen before the Census polls? The Census was delayed in many places, so when Census takers checked in June/July, had NYC evacuated already?

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Regarding the Exodus from NY and CA, I just noticed that if NY loses 63,000 population this year, it will lose another Seat during Apportionment (2 instead of 1). NY already lost 77,000 from 201`8-2019.

It is possible that CA could also lose another seat if their exodus is big enough.


Those seats would likely go to AL, MN, OH.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

"Regarding the Exodus from NY and CA, I just noticed that if NY loses 63,000 population this year, it will lose another Seat during Apportionment (2 instead of 1)."

There certainly are more than 2 Congressional Districts in NYS and NYC. And having 2 instead of 1 is an increase. So your post in confusing!

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Lord Darth Biden is now delaying his manipulated Census data results until end of April.

Surely, CA, IL and NY will gain gobs of new residents.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Lord Darth Biden is now delaying his manipulated Census data results until end of April.

Surely, CA, IL and NY will gain gobs of new residents.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Lord Darth Biden is now delaying his manipulated Census data results until end of April.

Surely, CA, IL and NY will gain gobs of new residents.

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The Census Bureau made the announcement in a livestreamed press conference Monday afternoon.

A total of seven seats shifted as a result of the 2020 census. Oregon, Montana, Florida, North Carolina and Colorado all gained one seat in the House. Texas gained two seats.

Illinois, California, Michigan, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania and West Virginia all lost one seat as a result of the 2020 census.

A total of 37 states kept the same number of seats in the House of Representatives. Six states will only have one representative in the House: Alaska, Delaware, North Dakota, South Dakota, Vermont and Wyoming.

Texas, Florida, California and New York are the states that will have the most seats in the House of Representatives. California will have 52, Texas will have 38, Florida will have 28 and New York will have 26.

The release of the apportionment numbers comes almost four months later than planned because of delays caused by the pandemic and anomalies discovered in the data as the numbers were being crunched.

The numbers are state population counts that show how many residents each state has gained or lost over the past decade.

The 435 seats in the House of Representatives are divided among the states based on population. As growing states get more congressional seats because of population gains, that means fewer seats for states that lost population or didn't grow as fast.

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So if population trends from 2018-2019 continue into 2020, and the Census results in the above predictions, then NC, AZ, CO, OR, MT will gain a seat, FL will gain 2 seats, and TX will gain 3 seats.
CA, NY, IL, PA, OH, MI, MN, AL, WV, RI will lose a seat.

The final seats to make the cut are IL, NY, TX, MT, FL. Those missing the cut are AL, MN, OH, CA.

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The Bureau’s Vintage 2020 Population Estimates released in December showed that 10 congressional districts are likely to shift in 17 states as a result of the new numbers, according to the nonpartisan firm Election Data Services.

Based on those estimates, Texas would gain the most seats, three, while Florida would add two. Arizona, Colorado, Montana, North Carolina and Oregon would each gain a single seat.

States losing seats, meanwhile, are mainly concentrated in the industrial “Rust Belt” states of the Northeast and in the Midwest — as Alabama, California, Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island and West Virginia are estimated to lose one seat.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Also, last week HR51 was passed in the House, the D.C. Statehood bill.

If D.C. becomes a State, then it would lose it's 3 Electoral Votes as defined in The Constitution. Those would be replaced by 1 Electoral Vote, as Apportioned according to The Constitution.
If this new Statehood was in time for the new Apportionment - which it will not, then the 2 other seats would be apportioned, at this point, to TX and FL (absent further massaging.) So the House would lose 1 Dem seat edge (adding 1 Dem Seat, and 2 GOP Seats.)

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Also, last week HR51 was passed in the House, the D.C. Statehood bill.

If D.C. becomes a State, then it would lose it's 3 Electoral Votes as defined in The Constitution. Those would be replaced by 1 Electoral Vote, as Apportioned according to The Constitution.
If this new Statehood was in time for the new Apportionment - which it will not, then the 2 other seats would be apportioned, at this point, to TX and FL (absent further massaging.) So the House would lose 1 Dem seat edge (adding 1 Dem Seat, and 2 GOP Seats.)

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lol

How much you want to bet they don't go ahead with this decision once somebody explains this to the horseface bartender?

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Also, last week HR51 was passed in the House, the D.C. Statehood bill.

If D.C. becomes a State, then it would lose it's 3 Electoral Votes as defined in The Constitution. Those would be replaced by 1 Electoral Vote, as Apportioned according to The Constitution.
If this new Statehood was in time for the new Apportionment - which it will not, then the 2 other seats would be apportioned, at this point, to TX and FL (absent further massaging.) So the House would lose 1 Dem seat edge (adding 1 Dem Seat, and 2 GOP Seats.)

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lol

How much you want to bet they don't go ahead with this decision once somebody explains this to the horseface bartender?

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My post was factually incomplete, so I just edited it.

You don't think Libtards have already paid for somebody to Math this for them?

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So if population trends from 2018-2019 continue into 2020, and the Census results in the above predictions, then NC, AZ, CO, OR, MT will gain a seat, FL will gain 2 seats, and TX will gain 3 seats.
CA, NY, IL, PA, OH, MI, MN, AL, WV, RI will lose a seat.

The final seats to make the cut are IL, NY, TX, MT, FL. Those missing the cut are AL, MN, OH, CA.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Well golly, isn't it just amazing that, of the last 15 seats to get crammed into the apportionment before cutoff, 11 are somehow from Libtard hellholes, and every one of those 11 (except OR) managed to have their population count stuffed during the Biden numbers massage. That is just amazing.

IN - 09 - 800242 423
NY - 26 - 792927
SC - 07 - 790760 424 (reduced)
PA - 17 - 788958 (stuffed)
FL - 28 - 784512 425 (reduced)
CA - 51 - 783736
TX - 38 - 778290 426 (reduced)
IL - 17 - 777492 427 (stuffed)
RI - 02 - 776518 428 (stuffed)
AL - 07 - 776154 429
NC - 14 - 774898 430 (reduced)
OR - 06 - 774388 431 (non-anomalous)
CO - 08 - 772675 432
CA - 52 - 768516 433 (stuffed)
MT - 02 - 767498 434
MN - 08 - 762997 435 (bumped)


NY - 27 - 762994 436
OH - 16 - 762257 437
TX - 39 - 758071 438 (reduced)
FL - 29 - 756977 439 (reduced)
AZ - 10 - 754616 440 (reduced)
ID - 03 - 751739 441

And looky there, of the next 5 Seats which somehow missed the cutoff, 3 of them were red states which mysteriously had their population counts reduced during the Biden numbers massage. That is just amazing.

Must be just a coincidence - or else one of them "anomalies" that Census said they needed to create.

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So if the Apportionment was done according to the Vintage estimate for 1 April 2020:
CA, IL, PA, OH, MI, MN, WV, RI would lose 1 seat.
NY would lose 2 seats.
NC, AZ, CO, OR, MT would gain 1 seat.
FL would gain 2 seats.
TX would gain 3 seats.

So the result of Biden's 3-month massage of the numbers:
MN, RI, NY lose 1 less seat. All States overrun by Libtards.
TX, FL, AZ fail to gain another seat. All states not considered to be overrun by Libtards.
Amazing coincidence.
6 Electoral Vote swing.

They must think all Americans are as gullible as the newsreaders.

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D.C. topped the list with a decline of 2.9% of its population since the census was taken in April of last year, followed by New York with a 1.6% decline, Illinois with a 0.9% decline, and Hawaii and California that both saw a 0.7% decline.

Meanwhile, the states that saw the biggest increase in population growth were Republican-run states, starting with Idaho at a 2.9% increase, followed by Utah with 1.7%, Montana with 1.7%, Arizona with 1.4% and South Carolina with 1.2%.

The Republican-led states that caught the most heat politically for their COVID-19 policies, Florida and Texas, each saw a population growth of 1%.

In terms of numbers alone, the largest gains in domestic migration (the movement of people from one area of the U.S. to another) were in Florida with 220,890, followed by Texas and Arizona. The largest domestic migration losses were in California, which lost 367,299 residents, followed by New York and Illinois.

The South was the only region that had a positive net domestic migration of 657,682 between 2020 and 2021. The Northeast region lost the most people due to domestic migration at -389,638.


Former residents of large cities who recently moved to Florida told Fox News Digital on Wednesday that rising crime, taxes, and government overreach drove their decisions to move.

"The taxes I was paying in Cook County … were getting really insane. My property tax went up $1,000 in one year. And I realized that that trend was going to continue," said Paula Miller, a former Chicago-area resident, adding that she also feels "truly safe" in Florida because Gov. Ron DeSantis, a Republican, "is a law-and-order governor."

"Our plan was to reassess in the summer of 2022 where we wanted to go," former Chicago resident Lauren Callahan told Fox, "but with COVID and city life in general … we decided to come to Florida in November."

"It's an opportunity to live outside, as well as get some tax benefits," said former New Jersey resident Warren Cohn, who now lives in Miami. "And also, it's a state that has …various freedoms. … I think that the governor has done a good job here allowing people to decide what's comfortable or not for themselves."


Meanwhile, a spokesperson for California Gov. Gavin Newsom’s press office told Fox News last week that "the California exodus is a myth."

"California’s economy grew at a 4.7 percent annual rate in the past quarter-century compared with 4 percent U.S. growth, and more recently, California’s economy expanded at 3.9 percent annually in the last 5 years vs 2.9 percent annually," the spokesperson said.

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