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Open Letter to Robert Mueller

POSTED BY: JO753
UPDATED: Thursday, July 5, 2018 18:41
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Tuesday, February 13, 2018 2:38 PM

JO753

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First published in The Daily Kos:

Alternate title: Treason Step 3.

Dear Mr. Mueller,

With the Executive being the perpetrator of the crime and the party in control of both Congress and the Senate openly working to protect the criminal from your investigation, it is apparent that the system created by the founding fathers has failed. The system is now under the indirect, but effective control of a hostile foreign power.    

The Republicans have a realistic shot at thwarting you and the intelligence agencies and enabling Putin to continue to direct his puppet to damage the Nation any way he can.  With their propaganda partners clearly succeeding in deceiving a significant fraction of the citizenry into believing that you and the intel agencies are part of a ‘deep state’ conspiracy and a Republican majority Supreme Court with a record of partisan decisions, who is left to deliver your final report to?  

I believe you will need to deliver it to We, The People before the conspirators can take action to hide it from us. 

They have been working assiduously to establish a story of corruption by the investigators, so will surely attempt to twist, tear and mangle your report into a shape that supports that story. Giving them the opportunity and time to do so requires your cooperation, which is accomplished simply by you following the standard proceedure.  They will keep it hidden from the American public while working on it with Trump and Putin, only releasing  their own report, supposedly about it, that is tailored to suit their purpose. 

You need to release it to Rachel Maddow, The Washington Post, The New York Times, The Chicago Tribune, The LA Times, etc. BEFORE passing it up to your ‘superiors’ in the Justice Department. And the sooner the better, while there is still an FBI that will continue the investigation.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/13/1741040/-Open-Letter-To-Rob
ert-Mueller?_=2018-02-13T11:28:45.409-08:00




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Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:46 PM

JO753

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Youd think 'Mueller duznt need to be told this', but after seeing that Rachel Maddow report about Obama totally dropping the ball on the Russian meddling, I can see how Mueller mite make the same mistake uv going by the book!

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Monday, July 2, 2018 1:48 PM

JJ


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Monday, July 2, 2018 1:54 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Fucking Russians! Fucking Nazis! They're EVERYWHERE!!!!!

Save us, Rachel Maddow!!!!!!!

You're our only hope!!!!!

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, July 2, 2018 2:01 PM

JJ


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Monday, July 2, 2018 2:13 PM

REAVERFAN


Derp! LOL!

Tick, tock...

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Monday, July 2, 2018 3:04 PM

JJ


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Monday, July 2, 2018 3:48 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Dear Robert Mueller,

I know that you've been assiduously crawling up the anuses of everyone that Trump might have even met once in a bar, on an endless expedition for "Russian collusion". I know that you indicted some Russians and Russian firms, and when on of them showed up in court to defend itself and you had to produce evidence for your indictments in a process called "discovery", you choked.

I know that although you may have found evidence of various misdeeds, none of them have to do with Russia. I also know that you intend to string this out through the mid-terms. However, as a citizen who is concerned with the rule of law, I think you should FINISH UP. Endless, pointless "investigations" which punish your targets economically are features of Russia, not the United States.

If you have evidence of collusion with Russia, please bring the evidence forth now.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

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Monday, July 2, 2018 3:55 PM

JJ


For those of you who haven't figured it out yet there are two types of opinions being posted in these threads. One is pro russian, the other is not.

T


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Monday, July 2, 2018 4:10 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by JJ:
For those of you who haven't figured it out yet there are two types of opinions being posted in these threads. One is pro russian, the other is not.

T




lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, July 3, 2018 8:46 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JJ:
For those of you who haven't figured it out yet there are two types of opinions being posted in these threads. One is pro russian, the other is not.

T


You know, if Siggy could just try to rephrase the standard Russian troll talking points, he might be able to pass as something other than an obvious Russian troll.

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Tuesday, July 3, 2018 8:55 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I'm one of the few people around here trying to get us to focus on our common American interests.

Why can't you even discuss what we have in common, and how we should further our common interests?

Do you hate America so much that you can't even imagine it as a meaningful category?

Or do you just hate half of enough that you're willing to tear the country apart and subvert democracy in order to get your way?

Yanno, I think you behave worse than Trump. You lie in thread after thread, troll endlessly, and in addition I think you're betraying our nation. Hmmm ... I guess that makes YOU the Russian troll!


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Tuesday, July 3, 2018 9:34 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Yanno, I think you behave worse than Trump. You lie in thread after thread, troll endlessly, and in addition I think you're betraying our nation. Hmmm ... I guess that makes YOU the Russian troll!





^ this is why no one wants to talk to you about pretty much anything except maybe canola oil. Lies on top of deflections on top of denials - yawn. Time for you to get a new schtick, that one is dull and broken.

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Tuesday, July 3, 2018 9:48 AM

REAVERFAN


Some bit of news comes out, the reichwing propagandists and trolls figure out their talking points and deflections, then they all go out and say the exact same things.

http://theweek.com/speedreads/764546/watch-surreal-video-compilation-d
ozens-local-news-anchors-giving-exact-same-warning-about-fake-news


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Tuesday, July 3, 2018 12:00 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I was looking for a "liberal talking points" compilation that I'd seen, and Youtube helpfully served this up. I thought this was just too funny not to post



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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Tuesday, July 3, 2018 1:01 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I;m cross-posting this form the "Civility" thread, http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=62509&p=3 because it seems that sometimes the only way that I can get [some] people to not constantly misrepresent my POV is to post the same comment in a few different places.

Quote:

Don't talk to me about civility. - RF
This, after claiming that 418 people mentioned Trump specifically by name before before attacking someone. Question, RF, what do 418 random people have to do with me, and my right to talk about civility? Am I them? Are they me?

Quote:

Why not?

You claim (or Reddit does, anyway) that "418 hate crimes" were committed by people who mentioned Trump specifically by name". And then YOU go on to characterize everyone who voted for Trump as violent, and a "blumpist".

Dood, how many people voted for Trump?
62,979,636
Out of which 418 appear to be batshit crazy.

That's, like, 0.00066 percent. Don't you think you're going a little overboard with prejudice (prejudice = to prejudge)? And, on that basis, you think it's OK to not be civil to an entire group of people?

If I were to use YOUR approach, and castigate an ENTIRE GROUP for the behavior of some of its individuals, I would look at perhaps the violent crime rate among males. I think the statistics are a lot more robust than the ones that YOU quote! After all, males account for almost 74% (not 0.00066%) of violent crime. Using YOUR approach, I think we would be justified in locking up ALL males; don't you? Or how about blacks? Blacks certainly count for a disproportionate (three times higher) percentage of crime. Using YOUR approach, maybe we should claim that all blacks are dangerous, and should be on automatic parole. Or maybe I should say that everyone who is against Trump is a total asshole, based on the behavior of about six people here, and decide that YOU don't deserve civility and a fair hearing.



*****

That's why I say we should focus on the behavior of individuals and their actions; not some sort of imaginary enemy. This idea that we should stop listening to each other because of few people on either side of an issue is a recipe for civil war. I know it might seem to you, at the moment, that civil war is the only route to get what "you want" but unless you've lived through extremely violent times - or you know someone who has and they can describe it for you - I don't think you realize how dangerous that is. (Also, you - collectively - have been extremely muddled about your goals, which have shifted with media coverage from RUSSIA!!! to transgender rights to climate shift to migrant children. What, really do you want? Is it worth being an asshole to half of the voting public?)

You've distorted your view of approximately half of the voting public. You've inserted YOUR OPINION of them in place of what they have ACTUALLY SAID AND DONE. Most likely, your view of Trump supporters comes to you thru the news, it's doubtful that you have meaningful, open-ended contact with many IRL; so everything you think you know about "blumpists" is based on the media. Which, we know, is unbiased.


Now, IMHO, there is a large number of Americans who are hurting economically. They lived through Bush and Obama as the wealth gap got larger and larger, and they may not know what "the answer" is, but they sure felt that "more of the same" was not a helpful direction. Is the DNC willing to address THEIR needs? Or is the DNC going to promote the right of illegal migrants over theirs, promote the rights of "trading partners" over theirs, promote the rights of banks over theirs, drag the smelly RUSSIA!!! red herring around ad infinitum, and continue to divide us over what are quite reasonable demands for meaningful jobs at living wages?

Just an argument for civility. Some people have gotten toxic on this board, and believe that personally attacking people accomplishes something meaningful.


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Tuesday, July 3, 2018 1:21 PM

REAVERFAN


Crying about personal attacks while simultaneously doing the same...

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Tuesday, July 3, 2018 3:05 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Crying about personal attacks while simultaneously doing the same...



Oh, baloney. Let's see who started it in this thread ...

Quote:

For those of you who haven't figured it out yet there are two types of opinions being posted in these threads. One is pro russian, the other is not.- THUGR

You know, if Siggy could just try to rephrase the standard Russian troll talking points, he might be able to pass as something other than an obvious Russian troll.- GSTRING


I know you will never EVER admit that "your tribe" does anything wrong, but it does.

So there!





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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Tuesday, July 3, 2018 6:09 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Oh, baloney. Let's see who started it in this thread ...

You know, if Siggy could just try to rephrase the standard Russian troll talking points, he might be able to pass as something other than an obvious Russian troll.- GSTRING



Hey Discount Aricept - I didn't say that. Please correct yourself or we make another notch on your lie tree.

I'm starting to understand how you f*ck so many facts up and have no clue what's going on.

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Tuesday, July 3, 2018 8:34 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

For those of you who haven't figured it out yet there are two types of opinions being posted in these threads. One is pro russian, the other is not.- THUGR

You know, if Siggy could just try to rephrase the standard Russian troll talking points, he might be able to pass as something other than an obvious Russian troll.- RF

Misattribution corrected.

That was YOU, RFEAVEFAN, who posted
Quote:

Crying about personal attacks while simultaneously doing the same...
right after you personally attacked me? Right, RF?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Tuesday, July 3, 2018 9:13 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Tuesday, July 3, 2018 8:46 AM
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=62231&mid=1
056229#1056229

Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by JJ:
For those of you who haven't figured it out yet there are two types of opinions being posted in these threads. One is pro russian, the other is not.

T


You know, if Siggy could just try to rephrase the standard Russian troll talking points, he might be able to pass as something other than an obvious Russian troll.


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Wednesday, July 4, 2018 4:06 AM

JO753

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The July 3rd Rachel Maddow show:



The GoPs arent even trying to hide their partisipation now. Do they think that therez no risk that their sheeple will wake up and smell the Rusky? Or are they confident that they can get away with treazon bekuz the the game iz over alredy?



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Wednesday, July 4, 2018 6:06 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I listened OOC to part of the Maddow show (I just couldn't get thru the last few minutes). Normally I don't believe in the hit-and-run style of posting, but I'm kinda busy so here goes:

1) About those resignations. Usually they happen when some skeleton in the closet is about to be exposed. Then people suddenly feel the need to "spend more time with the family" or "pursue other career paths". I wonder if some people conducting investigations have something to hide?

2) OMG the breathless RUSSIA!! bullshit, again. Maddow must use extra-strength bleach to keep her teeth looking so shiny-white despite the fact that she spews regularly.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Wednesday, July 4, 2018 7:29 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by JJ:
For those of you who haven't figured it out yet there are two types of opinions being posted in these threads. One is pro russian, the other is not.

T


You know, if Siggy could just try to rephrase the standard Russian troll talking points, he might be able to pass as something other than an obvious Russian troll.




Poll:

Does reaverfan still think that Signy is a man, or is he trying to get under her skin?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, July 4, 2018 3:09 PM

JO753

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The GoPs viziting Moscow, along with Scott Schools, the top career official at the DOJ quiting and the prosecutor overseeing the Cohen case in the SDNY, Tatiana Martins, going back to her old job in the private sector makes me suspect that THE FIX iz being worked on.

Were they thretend?

I'm not a beleever in wierd coinsidensez, so let me refraze that: They were thretend. Putinz thugz told them to get out or get ded, along with your family.

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Wednesday, July 4, 2018 4:34 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"We don't interfere in elections." Really? I think Maddow needs better fact-checkers.
And I'm not quite sure what point Maddow is making about Republicans. Does she think they're ALL on the (Russian) take? Or ALL on the (Russian) hit-list? Does anybody even imagine that's a credible possibility?

As for the upcoming meeting, Trump is moving more troops into Europe and up to the Russian border, conspiring with Israel to destabilize Iran (foment unrest) and overthrow the government, pressuring allies to continue and expand sanctions on Russia and Iran, and is putting money into tactical nukes - that I know of happened recently. I can't think anyone would interpret this as actively seeking better relations. Certainly Putin isn't so naive. And I can't think of what kind of snow-job Trump could run on Putin to makes all this meaningless. As usual, you can't listen to what Trump says, you have to watch what he does.




SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).

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Wednesday, July 4, 2018 4:43 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by JJ:
For those of you who haven't figured it out yet there are two types of opinions being posted in these threads. One is pro russian, the other is not.

T


You know, if Siggy could just try to rephrase the standard Russian troll talking points, he might be able to pass as something other than an obvious Russian troll.




Poll:

Does reaverfan still think that Signy is a man, or is he trying to get under her skin?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

No idea. Trolls can be anyone.

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Wednesday, July 4, 2018 9:09 PM

JO753

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My opinion: Sig, 1Kiki, 6string, JSF are all the same team at the FSB. Could be any number uv individualz, maybe they specialize in 1 or more karaktrz each, kinda like the viose talent in the Simpsonz, only here they dont need a viose so can play anybody.

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Thursday, July 5, 2018 7:51 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
My opinion: Sig, 1Kiki, 6string, JSF are all the same team at the FSB. Could be any number uv individualz, maybe they specialize in 1 or more karaktrz each, kinda like the viose talent in the Simpsonz, only here they dont need a viose so can play anybody.

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http://www.7532020.com



Can you say that again in English please? I don't even know what I'm being accused of here.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, July 5, 2018 5:41 PM

REAVERFAN

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Thursday, July 5, 2018 6:41 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

My opinion: Sig, 1Kiki, 6string, JSF are all the same team at the FSB. Could be any number uv individualz, maybe they specialize in 1 or more karaktrz each, kinda like the viose talent in the Simpsonz, only here they dont need a viose so can play anybody. - JO

Can you say that again in English please? I don't even know what I'm being accused of here. Do Right, Be Right. :)- SIX

Wow, I can't decide whether to laugh or to ... laugh!

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