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Another region becomes a Pot Smoking State. Another state Will legalize growing Weed Cannabis, smoking recreational marijuana

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Monday, January 1, 2018 4:34 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Weed goes legal in California. Here's how the program will work
http://www.nj.com/marijuana/2017/12/weed_goes_legal_in_california_here
s_how_the_progra.html


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The Best Marijuana Stocks to Buy in 2018
These pot stocks all have one big thing in common: location

In case you hadn't noticed, the marijuana industry is absolutely on fire. According to cannabis research firm ArcView, the North American legal weed industry grew by 34% in 2016 to $6.9 billion, and is expected to grow by an average of 26% per year through 2021. If ArcView's estimates come to fruition, the legal weed market would be worth $21.6 billion in North America by 2021. This sort of rapid and consistent growth is incredibly difficult to find, which is why investors have flocked to marijuana stocks in recent years.
https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/01/01/the-best-marijuana-stocks-to
-buy-in-2018.aspx

However, the marijuana industry is somewhat disjointed. An investor can't just throw a dart and pick a winner, because the industry is thriving in some countries while struggling mightily in others.



Pot sales now legal in California, but you can't find it everywhere yet
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/nation-now/2018/01/01/legal-calif
ornia-pot/994263001
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Oscars will be interesting this year

maybe someone knows the Laws of this State much better than I do? I think they had a 'Liberal' attitude for some time. You could perhaps grow or own or smoke a certain amount before but it was only illegal if you got caught? Medical pot or medicinal use of weed started in 1996 you had some kind of prescription paper?

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Monday, January 1, 2018 5:34 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Economics? Jobs? Hemp, pharmaceuticals? more than $5 billion or a destination for pot-loving tourists? industry in the United States is expected to grow from $2 billion in 2014 to as much as $10 billion in 2018, depending on legalization outcomes



prohibition? strangely enough alcohol cigarettes even though they might have been once banned do not support weed, they see cannabis as a threat to their industries?

Spain, North Korea yes the dictatorship of the North Koran DPRK, Czech Republic, Colombia, Jamaica, Canda, Puerto Rico, Cambodia, Uruguay, Netherlands/Holland and now USA it is legal to smoke?

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Monday, January 1, 2018 8:05 PM

OONJERAH


I may well be wrong: I thought Pot was legal in CA for decades!

Reportedly, we had huge farms of it in the northwest part of the state.

My former next-door-neighbor had a prescription for it, as well he should.
He & his bro built a handsome little greenhouse on his lot, and the plants
were usually in there, tho sometimes they came out in the yard for fresh air
or to show themselves off.


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Tuesday, January 2, 2018 7:55 AM

SIGNYM

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It's about time that it was legalized. I wish the Federal government would get over it's Hoover-inspired "reefer madness" approach.

As far as the long-term negative effects, MOST psychoactive drugs shouldn't be used regularly by anyone under 18-25 anyway, and that includes tobacco, alcohol, and cough syrup. The long-term effects of pot dependence are mild compare to opioid dependence.

One of the good aspects of the new law is that you're allowed to grow five plants per person. The reason why that's a good thing is that pot has often been laced with other things, and the concentration of THC varies wildly.

I never cared for pot, and IMHO the new strains of pot are too strong. Have gotten contact high from ppl in the same room; for me the experience was always unpleasant. I wish that someone would develop "heirloom" varieties of pot that would dial back the concentration of THC to 5%.

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Tuesday, January 2, 2018 8:57 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Didn't bother watching the long term effects of smoking pot video since it's ridiculous. Dude just got old, and he looks like he has scratches on his nose and a legion on his forehead. The before picture looks right out of college and the after picture looks like a mug shot.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with smoking pot.

Certainly not anything you couldn't say double for smoking cigarettes or drinking booze.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, January 2, 2018 9:02 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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One of the good aspects of the new law is that you're allowed to grow five plants per person. The reason why that's a good thing is that pot has often been laced with other things, and the concentration of THC varies wildly.


To me, this is the most important part of any legalization laws. Otherwise, legalizing it is just a blatant cash grab.

Growing your own tobacco for personal use would be as stupid as growing your own potatoes. Even at the asenine prices they charge after taxes, with the amount you'd smoke you'd have to turn your whole back yard into a field and then you've got to deal with your neighbors bitching and people stealing or damaging it, not to mention all of the work.

Growing pot OTOH is pretty low-profile and simple, and if you're a light smoker like me who only takes a few hits a day when I am using, 5 plants would be enough for me and I could just be giving a lot away or even trading for things I need.

I'm actually shocked that California is allowing this.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, January 3, 2018 9:00 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


before tolerated, now its an 'official' thing

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Wednesday, January 3, 2018 9:35 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Economics? Jobs? Hemp, pharmaceuticals? more than $5 billion or a destination for pot-loving tourists? industry in the United States is expected to grow from $2 billion in 2014 to as much as $10 billion in 2018, depending on legalization outcomesm

You mention tourism. Not sure how that will work out. Which visitors want their Disney ride operated by a pothead?

This thread certain to be a Libtard slang echo chamber.

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Wednesday, January 3, 2018 9:37 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Economics? Jobs? Hemp, pharmaceuticals? more than $5 billion or a destination for pot-loving tourists? industry in the United States is expected to grow from $2 billion in 2014 to as much as $10 billion in 2018, depending on legalization outcomesm

You mention tourism. Not sure how that will work out. Which visitors want their Disney ride operated by a pothead?

This thread certain to be a Libtard slang echo chamber.



Chances are that half the rides at Disney World are operated by "potheads".

Not a Democrat. Not a Libtard. There's nothing wrong with pot.


It's not even a partisan issue. There are plenty of Republicans and Independents who support legalizing pot.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, January 7, 2018 9:20 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Sounds like a few days ago AG Sessions announced he is rescinding ObamaDrone policy of not prosecuting Federal Drug charges against potheads.
Although there is nowhere in America where pot is legal, outside of Indian Reservations, now some states have provided useful gathering points to collect and arrest users and buyers.

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Sunday, January 7, 2018 9:56 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


My support of the Trump administration is certainly coming to a middle.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, January 7, 2018 8:21 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
My support of the Trump administration is certainly coming to a middle.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Sessions claims this one is his decision, not a directive from The Donald.

Wow.
I just realized that history may list the 2 greatest Presidents as Ronald and Donald. Certainly the financial markets will.

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Sunday, January 7, 2018 8:51 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Just remember the last time we had a Sessions cracking down on weed, we had a Clinton in office.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, January 8, 2018 12:08 AM

OONJERAH


Alcohol, when taken to excess, can & does kill people. It even kills
people who were sober when they got hit by a drunk driver.
  (OK. USA tried prohibition in the '20s; it didn't work, so drinking
became legal again.)

Tobacco, cigarettes, are also very dangerous, often causing lung cancer.

Therefore, POT seems by far the least of 3 evils. By far!


And I don't even use Pot.
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Monday, January 8, 2018 12:14 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


With all the Comey (classified) leaks and the Billary Foundation fraud and Dirty Debbie's tango with Imran, doesn't Jeff have anything BETTER to do????

Well, heck, I'm going to see how much pot I can grow, legally per CA, and grow some. And I don't even like pot.

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Monday, January 8, 2018 1:17 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I'd like to grow some, but not the modern varieties that have so much THC by weight it literally oozes out and crystallizes. No, I'd like to try and get an heirloom variety.

Now, if I was going to be a snob about it, I'd try to find this to grow:



Ancient Cannabis 'Burial Shroud' Discovered in Desert Oasis

Archaeologists are hailing the discovery of an "extraordinary cache" of cannabis found in an ancient burial in northwest China, saying that the unique find adds considerably to our understanding of how ancient Eurasian cultures used the plant for ritual and medicinal purposes.

In a report in the journal Economic Botany, archaeologist Hongen Jiang and his colleagues describe the burial of an approximately 35-year-old adult man with Caucasian features in China's Turpan Basin. The man had been laid out on a wooden bed with a reed pillow beneath his head.

Thirteen cannabis plants, each up to almost three feet long, were placed diagonally across the man's chest, with the roots oriented beneath his pelvis and the tops of the plants extending from just under his chin, up and alongside the left side of his face.

Radiocarbon dating of the tomb's contents indicates that the burial occurred approximately 2,400 to 2,800 years ago.

This discovery adds to a growing collection of archaeological evidence showing that cannabis consumption was "very popular" across the Eurasian steppe thousands of years ago, says Jiang.


https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/10/marijuana-cannabis-pot-wee
d-burial-shroud-china-ancient-discovery-scythians-turpan-archaeology-botany
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Still, it would be pretty cool if there were viable seeds for sale.




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Monday, January 8, 2018 7:38 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Alcohol, when taken to excess, can & does kill people. It even kills
people who were sober when they got hit by a drunk driver.
  (OK. USA tried prohibition in the '20s; it didn't work, so drinking
became legal again.)

Tobacco, cigarettes, are also very dangerous, often causing lung cancer.

Therefore, POT seems by far the least of 3 evils. By far!



Thank you. :)

This isn't about it being bad for you. People who claim it's bad never did it. Period.

If they're cracking down on it, I suspect the Privately Owned Prison Industrial Complex is looking for more cheap labor, and Sessions is their guy. Why ship the jobs to Indians that still can't speak well enough not to sound like Indians when you can pay the better prisoners pennies on the dollar to answer phones for the commissary?

The war on drugs has lost us BILLIONS in tax payer dollars and has made it so the majority of blacks in America today don't have a father. Then when they're in there they either turn into a REAL criminal or they become a Muslim most of the time. Prison is fucked.



The only reason that it has been legalized on a state by state basis is because of MONEY.

I tip my hat to California for making it legal to grow 5 plants. That's the fucking way that it should be. But make no mistake, they're going to make boatloads of tax money from this because most people can't be arsed to do anything for themselves and if they were growing the really high quality stuff they could buy in the stores, somebody is likely going to steal it anyways if they don't set up an expensive indoor system for it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, January 8, 2018 8:42 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Oonjerah:
And I don't even use pot.


Pot, when taken to excess, can & does kill people. It even kills
people who were sober when they got hit by a stoned driver.


Tobacco, cigarettes, are also very dangerous, often causing lung cancer.

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Monday, January 8, 2018 9:39 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The war on drugs has lost us BILLIONS in tax payer dollars and has made it so the majority of blacks in America today don't have a father. Then when they're in there they either turn into a REAL criminal or they become a Muslim most of the time. Prison is fucked.



The only reason that it has been legalized on a state by state basis is because of MONEY.

Are you trying to say black people are incapable of obeying the law? Or just black men? Or black baby daddies?
Just because Barack Hussain Obama is incapable of abiding the Law or Constitution and has been America's worst Criminal of the past decade does not mean you should use such a wide brush to paint all people of color. That would be a bit racist.

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Monday, January 8, 2018 10:43 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Pot, when taken to excess, can & does kill people.



No it doesn't. Not one single recorded case of this in the history of mankind.

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It even kills people who were sober when they got hit by a stoned driver.


It's not even close to the same thing as alcohol, but I'm not going to get into that. Drunk driving is the number one cause of deaths on the road. Alcohol is legal.

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Tobacco, cigarettes, are also very dangerous, often causing lung cancer.



No kidding?

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Are you trying to say black people are incapable of obeying the law?


Nope.

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Or just black men?


Nope.

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Or black baby daddies?


Nope.

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Just because Barack Hussain Obama is incapable of abiding the Law or Constitution and has been America's worst Criminal of the past decade does not mean you should use such a wide brush to paint all people of color. That would be a bit racist.


lol

He's barely black, and I would never judge an entire race on the actions of any one man regardless.

Look at the black fatherless rates before the War on Drugs and after the War on Drugs. Also look at the incarceration rate among blacks before and after. It's pretty easy to see what happened there.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, August 2, 2019 9:45 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Canadian
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pot-pardon-application-system-1.523310
3

?
Canada unveils new pot-pardon application system. U.S. authorities now unable to see convictions of pardoned Canadians

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Friday, August 2, 2019 9:53 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Weed is legal for recreational use come January 1st in Illinois.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, January 30, 2021 2:28 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Amsterdam: Tourists face ban from cannabis cafes - Mayor wants to get rid of "low-value tourists"

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55765554

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Saturday, February 20, 2021 5:17 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

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Saturday, February 20, 2021 11:32 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Weed is legal for recreational use come January 1st in Illinois.

Do Right, Be Right. :)





That was referring to January 1st, 2020.


If they ever wonder why everybody in Illinois still buys their stuff from the same people they did before the cash grab, all they have to do is look at a receipt.





LOL. Back before I last quit, I was still getting an ounce for $90.

They just paid $301 for 5.1 grams, and almost 1/3rd of that was Illinois tax.

There are 28.3 grams in an ounce.

I know that new pot shop stuff is supposed to be da bomb, but I better not hear anybody smoking pot shop weed in Illinois ever bitching that they don't make enough money at their jobs.



Although I can't give them shit for not just growing their own yet. Illinois, of course, is one of the few states that doesn't even bother to hide the fact that changing their moral stance on cannabis use was just a complete desperate cash grab since it's still illegal to grow any amount of it on your own.

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Monday, March 15, 2021 2:15 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Colorado may see its biggest overhaul of marijuana laws since recreational legalization

https://www.denverpost.com/2021/03/11/colorado-biggest-overhaul-mariju
ana-laws-thc-cap
/

Mexico moves closer to becoming the world's largest legal cannabis market

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/mexico-moves-closer-becoming-world-
s-largest-legal-cannabis-market-n1259519

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Monday, December 6, 2021 6:51 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Jamaican Government Launches Campaign About How Great Weed Is
https://www.vice.com/en/article/epxxqk/jamaican-government-launches-ca
mpaign-about-how-great-weed-is


Costa Rican Supreme Court Did Not Find Unconstitutionalities in the Medical Cannabis Legalization Project
https://thecostaricanews.com/costa-rican-supreme-court-did-not-find-un
constitutionalities-in-the-medical-cannabis-legalization-project
/

Are Republicans Better Than Democrats On Marijuana Legalization?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrisroberts/2021/11/30/are-republicans-b
etter-than-democrats-on-marijuana-legalization
/

Some GOP officials want to legalize pot. Feds will likely balk
https://www.kcrw.com/news/shows/kcrw-features/this-week-in-weed-states
-reform-act-legalization

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Monday, December 6, 2021 10:49 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Weed's fine. What's criminal is that weed is illegal, but booze and cigarettes are legal.

I support full legalization, including being able to grow your own in a garden (especially if your state is gouging you with taxes on it).

I haven't smoked weed in almost 7 years now, despite the fact I'm around people who do it all the time. When I'm in Illinois, they're doing so legally too.


Quitting weed was especially easy, once you make it past the first week or two of changing your behavior patterns.

It was much easier to do that than it was to quit drinking. Quitting drinking required me to fill my days with an old project I had abandoned for nearly a decade because it had become an obsession that was consuming my life. For a full six months I did nearly nothing but work on that project to escape the hold I had allowed alcohol to have on me. The minor hits of serotonin I got from completing super-repetitive tasks were enough to get me over that hump. One month away now from 5 years of sobriety, and I can go anywhere people are drinking and talk to them all night while they're getting drunk and I've just got a bottle of water in my hand.


Quitting smoking? Heh... Maybe someday. It's been engineered for a century to be the most addictive "controlled" substance in the world. My grandma says she salivates every time smoking comes up in conversation even though she quit smoking 42 years ago.

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Thursday, March 23, 2023 8:43 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Going everywhere in the West now, they want the population stoned?

Up in Smoke
https://slate.com/human-interest/2022/07/weed-smell-marijuana-legal-po
licy-public.html

...decline


Zurich to legalize consumption and sale of cannabis in trial scheme

https://archive.ph/prpEM

The French basically have an open border with Germany

France to keep a cautious watch on German cannabis bill
https://www.euractiv.com/section/health-consumers/news/france-to-keep-
a-cautious-watch-on-german-cannabis-bill
/

Naples bans sale of alcohol ahead of England-Italy match
https://www.thelocal.it/20230323/naples-bans-sale-of-alcohol-ahead-of-
england-italy-match


32% of cigarettes sold in the Dominican Republic in 2022 were illegal, according to a report
https://dominicantoday.com/dr/local/2023/02/14/32-of-cigarettes-sold-i
n-the-dominican-republic-in-2022-were-illegal-according-to-a-report
/




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Thursday, March 23, 2023 10:25 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Really... It's not that big a deal, dude.

It's not like it was hard to get when it was illegal. It certainly wasn't.

And it's not as if I go into Illinois now and 100% of people are smoking it now that you can smoke it recreationaly. They aren't.




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Friday, March 24, 2023 11:52 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You know... I've been thinking about it and the real crime here is how much everybody is charging for it.

I don't just mean sales tax on top of excise tax and in states like Illinois about 7 other taxes on top of those too.

The state governments (at least a good amount of them) make it nearly unprofitable to grow because of the licensing structure, so only the people with really deep pockets can pay the up front costs, or they have to get a lot of investors that are going to expect a return on their investment.

The fact that the Federal Government in 2023 still considers weed illegal further complicates matters, since interstate travel from where conditions are actually good for weed growing is a moot-point in most states because it would be a felony to transport it, so all of the states North of the Mason-Dixon line have HUGE upfront costs to build the facilities required to grow it.

And so the bare-bottom prices even in the states that don't tax the hell out of it started at what the illegal prices were, which is pure bullshit because they have the benefit of being completely legal and on the books where the people who were growing, distributing and ultimately selling it on the black market before legalization were doing so while constantly taking the risk of seeing real prison time.


Chalk this up to just another example of Government fucking everything up. The way things are grown, distributed and sold is ridiculously inefficient, the prices are far too high, and in most cases because of the extremely high prices it has done NOTHING to eliminate the illegal trade, further enriching the lives of illegal aliens on this side of the border and the drug cartels.


Think one minute about a corn field.

Each stalk yields one cob of corn. How much does corn cost in your grocery store?

Now look at what a 100 acre pot farm looks like...

Do you know how much smokable product is on each stalk? Not to mention all of the other uses of the byproducts that aren't smokable...

It's a fuckin' sin what they charge for it now that it's legal. Even if you don't consider the taxes raised after each sale.

Give it 5 to 10 years and you're going to see one guy owning all of the pot farms in America and making it on the top 10 Billionaires lists.

Maybe it won't be somebody new? Maybe Bill Gates has plans for growing weed on some of that farmland he's been buying up and he's jockeying for position to be the world's first Trillionaire.


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Monday, May 8, 2023 2:21 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Charlie Kirk said Legalizing marijuana "makes us less free", enriches cartels Vid and makes people more paranoid and crazy

says Legalization of pot in Arizona has increased vagrancy and homelessness,


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Thursday, March 7, 2024 8:53 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Smoke passively spreading on such level, should kids be breathing this stuff in?



Author Douglas Murray says the odour of marijuana spreading through city streets is “the smell of failure” for that government and its citizens

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