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Wednesday, December 13, 2017 2:48 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I may not be around much for a bit, so in case I miss this ....

Whatever you celebrate at this time of year, may it be a great one, full of joy and fond memories. And just in case I miss this too ...

May the next year be happy, healthy, and prosperous for you all. We might fight like cats and dogs, but don't all families?

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Wednesday, December 13, 2017 5:12 PM

WISHIMAY


I read yesterday that the original people who came up with Festivus (The holiday pole and airing of grievances was made up) had a clock in a bag nailed to the wall next to a sign that said "Fuck Fascism."

There's a holiday sentiment I'm totally on board with.

May you feel however you damn well feel like this season, and every season






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Sunday, December 24, 2017 1:19 AM

OONJERAH


Christmas eve:

"New Testament written in what year?:
But from the middle of the 1st century AD texts begin to be written which will
later be gathered into a New Testament, representing the updated covenant
revealed by Christ. The earliest such texts are the letters (or Epistles) written
between about 50 and 62 AD by St Paul to various early Christian communities.

"When were the books of the New Testament written?

"Here’s an important fact to keep in mind: Jesus died in roughly A.D. 30 to 33,
not the year 0, since A.D. does not mean “After Death” but Anno Domini (“in the
year of our Lord”).

"With A.D. 30 as ground zero, most scholars date Paul’s letters between A.D. 50
and 66, the first three Gospels between A.D. 50 and 70, and John’s writings some-
time between A.D.. 80 and 90. That makes the majority of the epistles and three
of the Gospels dated only twenty to forty years after the death of Jesus."
........................

My own opinion or suspicion:
Joseph & Mother Mary didn't exist. Jesus didn't exist.
The New Testament is a fictional work wholly produced by the early Catholic Church.

I'm not saying this to be mean to Christians. They can believe in Jesus, but I can't ...
Quite by accident, I once had an epiphany. Jesus Christ wasn't in it. & that proves
nothing.

Merry Christmas to All!!


... oooOO}{OOooo ...

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Sunday, December 24, 2017 8:13 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I'm pretty sure that everyone knows that Jesus was a Jew.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, December 24, 2017 8:18 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I may not be around much for a bit, so in case I miss this ....

Whatever you celebrate at this time of year, may it be a great one, full of joy and fond memories. And just in case I miss this too ...

May the next year be happy, healthy, and prosperous for you all. We might fight like cats and dogs, but don't all families?




Merry Christmas to you too Sigs. Hope Santa brings what you want. :)


And to everybody else on the board, I hope you make it a mission to improve some things in your life next year. I can't believe that a year has gone by since I stopped drinking (well... in another 8 days). It's nice to have memories again, when everything wasn't Groundhog Day on repeat.


If you're one of the people of the mind that 2017 was the worst year ever, I suggest to focus on the things you can actually do something about to help yourself and those you care about in 2018. 2017 was the best year I've lived in many years, and absolutely none of it had anything to do with politics except for the time I spent here in the RWED.



Merry Christmas Haken. Thanks for keeping the signal going.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, December 24, 2017 5:16 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Christmas eve:

"New Testament written in what year?:
But from the middle of the 1st century AD texts begin to be written which will
later be gathered into a New Testament, representing the updated covenant
revealed by Christ. The earliest such texts are the letters (or Epistles) written
between about 50 and 62 AD by St Paul to various early Christian communities.

"When were the books of the New Testament written?

"Here’s an important fact to keep in mind: Jesus died in roughly A.D. 30 to 33,
not the year 0, since A.D. does not mean “After Death” but Anno Domini (“in the
year of our Lord”).

"With A.D. 30 as ground zero, most scholars date Paul’s letters between A.D. 50
and 66, the first three Gospels between A.D. 50 and 70, and John’s writings some-
time between A.D.. 80 and 90. That makes the majority of the epistles and three
of the Gospels dated only twenty to forty years after the death of Jesus."
........................

My own opinion or suspicion:
Joseph & Mother Mary didn't exist. Jesus didn't exist.
The New Testament is a fictional work wholly produced by the early Catholic Church.

I'm not saying this to be mean to Christians. They can believe in Jesus, but I can't ...
Quite by accident, I once had an epiphany. Jesus Christ wasn't in it. & that proves
nothing.

Merry Christmas to All!!


... oooOO}{OOooo ...

No such thing as Year Zero.
Jesus died around age 39 or 40, IIRC. So was born around 7 or 6 BC.

So were the Roman Decrees to arrest, kill the make-believe Jesus also make-believe? Were the Romans make-believe? Were the Jews make-believe? Is all history make-believe?
What is your theory on why all the texts of the major religions (Bible, Koran, Torah, Veda, Tripitaka's, etc) have similar stories? Like the same 40 days and 40 nights of deluge, for example? Did every opposing Religion conjure the stories together, in collusion?

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Sunday, December 24, 2017 5:51 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

What is your theory on why all the texts of the major religions (Bible, Koran, Torah, Veda, Tripitaka's, etc) have similar stories? Like the same 40 days and 40 nights of deluge, for example? Did every opposing Religion conjure the stories together, in collusion?



People of the time were BORED. Mind-bogglingly BORED. The only entertainment they had -besides screwing goats- was storytelling. For instance, even without having seen any of the movies or TV series, most people today know quite a bit about Batman's backstory.

People travelled and told stories then, in exchange for food or lodging. It was a real thing. They were called BARDS...They told the stories on trade routes across the globe.

Ever heard of the Cult of Mithras? Older than Jesus, but many parts of his stories were similar in nature. If fact, most of the bible has been recycled from stories that predated Jesus.

Throughout time there have been people telling stories of super humans, that other people have believed without question, because this planet is truly dull and unmagical...but it's fun to think there could be more. Here's a whole wiki page on people who were worshipped as gods

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_have_been_considered_
deities



The fact is, all of their followers have been used and then died out, with never a shred of actual proof they existed at all. Because THERE ARE NO GODS. I know...it's sad.

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Sunday, December 24, 2017 6:08 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by G:


It always nice to give and receive gifts! Depending on your family situation, it can be nice to have everybody together again.



I think if the people in my family had to buy each other gifts, there would be actual seizures involved. Literally, my grandmother has given my daughter two gifts, one was at her baby shower and a couple years ago she gave her a bar of craft soap. Not kidding.

My mother hasn't seen my kid in five years and has talked to her twice on the phone. I don't think she's gotten anything for her since she was five. A few years ago, she brought the movie Brave (2012) and watched it with her then SHE TOOK THE MOVIE WITH HER. My brother's kid doesn't even register on her radar, so it isn't just us...

My dad may have been a shit parent, but he was an awesome grandparent. Pisses me off SHE'S still breathing.

Then, there's my husbands' family...who uses buying things as leverage to get what they want. I stopped going to Christmas at their house 5 years ago because it is just NOT WORTH IT, EVER. For the past five years, we've gotten pine scented candle sets, and she knows we all have allergies to the pine scent. Their way of being passive aggressive.

So, when someone says "Merry Christmas" to me I just can't help but think "Merry Asshole Day To YOU, Too."

It is what it is.

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Sunday, December 24, 2017 7:02 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I love Christmas. Even tho I know it's a mish-mash of Xtian and pagan holidays, and long after I gave up the notion of the birth of Christ, it has very happy memories for me ...

Waking up as a little child, to creep into the living room with my two sisters where a tree, with gifts, had magically appeared.

Trying to guess what was inside the packages using the Xmas tree lights, and trying to stay quiet because mom and dad were sleeping in (having spent the night putting up the tree).

Later, "helping" dad saw off the bottom of the tree and keeping it in wet sand in the basement, and decorating the tree

Finally being judged to be old enough to stay up for midnight mass, with the wind biting my nose and cheeks and looking at the moon riding high in the sky with wind-propelled clouds scurrying across its face.

Singing Christmas carols - in Polish - which I still remember to this day.

A lullaby

and others

Family parties ... the grownups playing rummy or pinochle and laughing and drinking beer in the kitchen ... us kids in the back room goofing around ... my aunt's butter cookies and my other aunt's turkey ...

Walking thru the neighborhood, where every neighbor put up SOMEthing, Christmas lights glowing softly thru falling snow or shining on the drifts of the last snowstorm, or even wetly reflecting off sodden autumn leaves.

Just the fact that people would go through the bother of putting up those lights ... not to be a showcase, but just to be PRETTY ... something for everyone to enjoy ... made me feel warm and loved and safe ... not just because of my family, but because of everyone.

That's why, even after our DD was born so catastrophically, I put up SOMEthing in the window, even if I could only manage a few strings indoors.

I know it sounds too good to be true, but that's how I remember the holiday. Every child should feel so blessed, at least once in a while.



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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Sunday, December 24, 2017 8:29 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Well, now that I'm retired, I did something that we haven't done in YEARS ... put up a tree.

It used to be our family tradition (even if we were isolated on the West Coast) but the trees just kept getting larger and larger until one year ... many years ago .... we bought the tree that broke us. It didn't LOOK that big in the lot; it was beautiful and majestic and full. But when we got back home, we had a helluva time hoisting it off the car and into the house ... musta weighed 200 lbs and full of sap ... then we had to cut 2' off the leader ... then we tried putting it into one of those dinky tree stands and it -literally- splayed the legs up. So hubby had to construct a 3' x 3' plywood stand with guy wires to eyebolts in the corners .... spent forever righting the tree, and that was all BEFORE we decorated it.

So, never again! I would put up decorations, but NO TREE!

Anyway, with more time this year, I bought a 4" tree. A little jolly tree that DD and I decorated. I found the lights that I had carefully stored away, and some treasured ornaments and a garland, and it's magic.

So MERRY CHRISTMAS! or whatever you celebrate this time of year! May your days become sources of treasured memories.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Sunday, December 24, 2017 8:53 PM

OONJERAH


Anno Domini (“in the year of our Lord”). IMO, 0 AD, which will then be incremented by months, is when Christ was born if you are religious & believe he existed. Before that, we call it BC = Before Christ. That's how influential Christianity is in Western culture. ... As well it should be: Heretics or even those only suspected to be were executed until recently.

JSF: "No such thing as Year Zero.
"Jesus died around age 39 or 40, IIRC. So was born around 7 or 6 BC.

"So were the Roman Decrees to arrest, kill the make-believe Jesus also make-believe?
Were the Romans make-believe? Were the Jews make-believe? Is all history make-believe?
"What is your theory on why all the texts of the major religions (Bible, Koran, Torah, Veda, Tripitaka's, etc) have similar stories? Like the same 40 days and 40 nights of deluge, for
example?
Did every opposing Religion conjure the stories together, in collusion?"


Christianity was/is in our culture.
Can you find "the Roman Decrees to arrest, kill" Jesus in any history book?
My world history teacher, H.S., said we/she could not.
The great flood exists in religious texts, legend & history. I accept the flood.
I gather there are many accurate, historical references in the Bible.

I do believe in God, btw. Not that I could possibly describe Him/Her or It.
Eventho I questioned God's existence when I was in my teens, & seriously held
myself an agnostic for over a decade or two ... over the years, it's become clear
to me that I do believe in God, but uncomprehendingly, in an ignorant way:
My intelligence compared to God's: I'm an earthworm or less.
Maybe the main reason is, I cannot believe in anything so silly as the Big Bang.
That the Universe created itself out of Nothing. Doesn't compute.

The question may be, What came 1st? God or the Universe?
Science: the Universe came 1st; we are part of its brood; we invented God.
Religion: God always was.
Attempt to comprehend: Because I exist in Time, I think/feel that everything
else does, also. But if the Universe we know is a construct, perhaps time
only exists within the construct that we perceive.

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

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Sunday, December 24, 2017 9:53 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
I'll be glad for this year to be over and I am hopeful that the next will be a little bit better.



Oh BRENDA, it sounds like it was a bad year for you! I hope with all my heart that next year will be everything that you want- healthy, prosperous, happy, and more.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Sunday, December 24, 2017 10:20 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, now that I'm retired, I did something that we haven't done in YEARS ... put up a tree.

It used to be our family tradition (even if we were isolated on the West Coast) but the trees just kept getting larger and larger until one year ... many years ago .... we bought the tree that broke us. It didn't LOOK that big in the lot; it was beautiful and majestic and full. But when we got back home, we had a helluva time hoisting it off the car and into the house ... musta weighed 200 lbs and full of sap ... then we had to cut 2' off the leader ... then we tried putting it into one of those dinky tree stands and it -literally- splayed the legs up. So hubby had to construct a 3' x 3' plywood stand with guy wires to eyebolts in the corners .... spent forever righting the tree, and that was all BEFORE we decorated it.

So, never again! I would put up decorations, but NO TREE!

Anyway, with more time this year, I bought a 4" tree. A little jolly tree that DD and I decorated. I found the lights that I had carefully stored away, and some treasured ornaments and a garland, and it's magic.

So MERRY CHRISTMAS! or whatever you celebrate this time of year! May your days become sources of treasured memories.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

Merry Christmas, Sig.

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Sunday, December 24, 2017 10:55 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Anno Domini (“in the year of our Lord”). IMO, 0 AD, which will then be incremented by months,

I am not certain if Your Opinion can change history. On the Your Opinion Calendar, is there a Year Zero BC as well as a Year Zero AD? On the Calendar that our history uses, the day before January 1 of Year One AD was December 31 of Year One BC. In calendars which do not start on the same date, such as the Chinese Calendar, there is not a 3 year span from our Jan 1 of 1 BC to Jan 1 of 1 AD. It was only one year, the final year of BC, without either Year Zero BC or Year Zero AD.
If any baby would have been born on Dec 31 of Year One BC, that child would have turned one on Dec 31 of Year One AD, and been age 1 for the year 2 AD. So the first 100 years could have been celebrated at the beginning of 101 AD. Do you not recall that the celebration of the New Millenium was celebrated at the beginning of 2001, after the completion of 2,000 years? On the Your Opinion Calendar the first 2,000 years would have been completed at the end of 1999 AD.
Quote:

is when Christ was born if you are religious & believe he existed. Before that, we call it BC = Before Christ. That's how influential Christianity is in Western culture. ... As well it should be: Heretics or even those only suspected to be were executed until recently.

JSF: "No such thing as Year Zero.
"Jesus died around age 39 or 40, IIRC. So was born around 7 or 6 BC.

"So were the Roman Decrees to arrest, kill the make-believe Jesus also make-believe?
Were the Romans make-believe? Were the Jews make-believe? Is all history make-believe?
"What is your theory on why all the texts of the major religions (Bible, Koran, Torah, Veda, Tripitaka's, etc) have similar stories? Like the same 40 days and 40 nights of deluge, for
example?
Did every opposing Religion conjure the stories together, in collusion?"


Christianity was/is in our culture.
Can you find "the Roman Decrees to arrest, kill" Jesus in any history book?

So you believe that the Roman Tacitus and the Jew Josephus were each, separately colluding and conspiring with the infant Christian religion when writing about Jesus in the Histories of their time, in their regions? Everybody was lying, all at once, independantly creating the same makebelieve person?
And the writers of Talmud also conjured the same make-believe Jesus and his Execution under the Roman prefect Pontius Pilate? Why would they?
Quote:


My world history teacher, H.S., said we/she could not.
The great flood exists in religious texts, legend & history. I accept the flood.
I gather there are many accurate, historical references in the Bible.

I do believe in God, btw. Not that I could possibly describe Him/Her or It.
Eventho I questioned God's existence when I was in my teens, & seriously held
myself an agnostic for over a decade or two ... over the years, it's become clear
to me that I do believe in God, but uncomprehendingly, in an ignorant way:
My intelligence compared to God's: I'm an earthworm or less.
Maybe the main reason is, I cannot believe in anything so silly as the Big Bang.
That the Universe created itself out of Nothing. Doesn't compute.

The question may be, What came 1st? God or the Universe?
Science: the Universe came 1st; we are part of its brood; we invented God.
Religion: God always was.
Attempt to comprehend: Because I exist in Time, I think/feel that everything
else does, also. But if the Universe we know is a construct, perhaps time
only exists within the construct that we perceive.

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

Have you watched Ben Stein's film "Expelled" yet? I think you would find it very interesting.

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Monday, December 25, 2017 12:42 AM

OONJERAH


No, I haven't seen it.

OK. So you cannot talk about religion in a science class.
  The 2 two don't mix.

Religion is based on religious texts & those who study & teach about them.
Science is based on study & analysis of the physical world.

Yet a scientist might also be a religious person, even a member of a congregation.
Seems to me that Einstein believed in God.
  Physicists, chemists, & botanists could say, "Look how perfect this science is! Only
God could have made it; a billion years of different atoms bumping against each
other could not have done it!
  A person can believe in God but not religion. Haven't asked for a show of hands,
but that belief may be common.

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

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Monday, December 25, 2017 1:05 AM

OONJERAH


Pew Research Center
http://www.pewforum.org/2009/11/05/an-overview-of-religion-and-science
-in-the-united-states
/

Religion and Science in the United States

The relationship between faith and science in the United States seems, at least on the surface, to be paradoxical. Surveys repeatedly show that most Americans respect science and the benefits it brings to society, such as new technologies and medical treatments. Nevertheless, strong religious convictions can affect some Americans’ willingness to accept certain scientific theories and discoveries, such as evolution, and new, life-changing technologies, such as genetic engineering.

Science and religion have often been viewed as adversaries. A number of famous battles between scientists and religious authorities have helped to fuel this perception. For instance, Italian scientist Galileo Galilei, who 400 years ago began the first systematic astronomical observations using a telescope, was tried and convicted of heresy by the Catholic Church for his defense of the Copernican model that put the sun, rather than the Earth, at the center of the universe. Roughly 250 years later, British naturalist Charles Darwin was criticized by Anglican Church authorities who rejected his theory that life evolved through natural selection, particularly when the theory was explicitly applied to human beings.

There have been and still are scientists who are hostile to religious belief. For instance, British biologist and atheist Richard Dawkins, in his bestselling book The God Delusion, argues that many social ills – from bigotry to ignorance – can be blamed, at least in part, on religion. Other scientists, such as Nobel Prize-winning American physicist Steven Weinberg, contend that one of the purposes of science is to free people from what they call “religious superstition.”

In addition, scientists tend to be much less religious than the public overall ... etc.

... oooOO}{OOooo ...
I just looked this up: Galileo
"He spent the rest of his life under house arrest."
At least, he wasn't executed.

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Monday, December 25, 2017 4:52 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Oonjerah:
No, I haven't seen it.

OK. So you cannot talk about religion in a science class.
  The 2 two don't mix.

Religion is based on religious texts & those who study & teach about them.
Science is based on study & analysis of the physical world.

I have not talked, in this thread, with you, about religion.
Perhaps you were confused, because the topic of this thread is based in Religion.

I was talking about Math, a close relative of Science. And about History, outside of the texts of Christianity.

I pointed out the nonexistence of Year Zero, or any days between Year One BC and Year One AD. This is a fact of Math, and History. No Religion magically inserts 2 extra years into this sequence.

I discussed the existence of a person named Jesus, documented and recorded in Histories outside of the religion which followed him, or arose from him. I have not disputed that it is possible for a story to create a character out of whole cloth, but then why would separate, independent Histories document and record that such a make-believe person also existed in their world?
It can be a separate issue whether this Jesus was executed by Roman prefect Pontius Pilate, also recorded in Histories outside of the infant Religion of Christianity.


So there are 2 questions, external of Religion:

1. Is there a Year Zero? This is a Math fact, as well as History. Other than in Your Opinion Calendar, was there a Year Zero AD, and/or a Year Zero BC?

2. Did a person named Jesus exist in this world, or were the independent Histories written wrong? This is a question of recorded History.

Of course, "recorded History" is redundant, by definition. Just like "2 two" is most like redundant.

By the way, my recall was a little off on the presumed timeline of life of Jesus. Looks like April of 6AD was his likely birth. Which is 748 AUC or 3755 HC (Hebrew Calendar). And most likely Crucifixion was April of 30AD, which was 783 AUC or 3790 HC. A span of 35 years.
3755 HC, 748 AUC, 6BC
3760 HC, 753 AUC, 1BC

???? HC, ??? AUC, 0BC
???? HC, ??? AUC, 0AD

3761 HC, 754 AUC, 1AD
3790 HC, 783 AUC, 30AD


During the years mentioned, Romans did not officially identify years by number, but by ruling official. When the AD Calendar was created by a Roman in 525, Roman Numerals did not include Zero. The common use of the numeral Zero did not begin until 628 in India.
And, unless you are a Libtard, algore did not invent the number Zero. Neither did Billy Gates.

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Monday, December 25, 2017 12:49 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Merry Christmas, all!

And a new year of hope, and brighter times.




HAS IT NOT OCCURRED TO YOU BY NOW THAT IF YOU HAVE TO RESORT TO LOGICAL FALLACIES AND TROLLING YOUR SO-CALLED ARGUMENTS ARE LIES?

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Monday, December 25, 2017 7:31 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by Oonjerah:

Maybe the main reason is, I cannot believe in anything so silly as the Big Bang.
That the Universe created itself out of Nothing. Doesn't compute.




Technically speaking, "they" think that a build-up of anti-particles (positively charged electrons) caused it and then possibly got contained in dark matter. We've created anti-particles for a few seconds at CERN. We know they exist.

A lot of anti-particles reside at the center of our galaxy and are created primarily by the super massive black hole residing at the center of the Milky Way. "Antimatter" production is created in close proximity of the event horizon when in-falling mass is broken down violently.
That's the technical.




*I* think energy was the first "life form", aka "the force". IT developed its own rules and laws and attractions, much like a single celled organism became you and me. Maybe one single static reaction created a mathematical motion and a domino effect ensued. You have a build-up of static electricity HERE, and what happens? Fire, explosions, matter changes form. It's simple, and yet extremely violent.

Either way, it's pretty clear if there was a god it isn't involved in our day to day. Logic is as close to a religion that makes sense to me. Real, testable, provable, rules for daily life.

Everything else is just so much flotsam.

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Monday, December 25, 2017 8:32 PM

OONJERAH


Wishy, your explanation of the Big Bang makes it sound plausible. Indeed, since it
was smart guys like Einstein who came up with it, their vision is clearer than mine.

"Everything else is just so much flotsam."

I took physics in HS, got A's on my tests.
But truly, I never understood it.
... oooOO}{OOooo ...

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Monday, December 25, 2017 8:42 PM

OONJERAH


More flotsam; I was always fond of this bit:

Bishop James Usher calculated the exact time that God created the earth
in 4,004 B.C., on 23 October along about 6:00 p.m. Perhaps he did it by
counting the generations from Adam & Eve to Jesus.

... oooOO}{OOooo ...
Merry Christmas, everyone!

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Tuesday, December 26, 2017 1:45 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by Oonjerah:

I took physics in HS, got A's on my tests.
But truly, I never understood it.



Can I ask what decade that was, and was it a weekend course then?

Kidding... I kid...

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Tuesday, December 26, 2017 9:01 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
More flotsam; I was always fond of this bit:

Bishop James Usher calculated the exact time that God created the earth
in 4,004 B.C., on 23 October along about 6:00 p.m. Perhaps he did it by
counting the generations from Adam & Eve to Jesus.

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Merry Christmas, everyone!

That is how the Hebrew Calendar was calculated, albeit prior to Jesus. HC has 2 versions of calendar years, more than 1,700 years apart from each other, but both derived via the same method. Regardless of that discrepancy of starting point, history recorded in HC was more accurate and usable because it counted years by numbers, long before other calendars did so.
One used 3761 BC as the point of origin.
The other used 5509 BC.

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Tuesday, December 26, 2017 9:07 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
I'll be glad for this year to be over and I am hopeful that the next will be a little bit better.



Oh BRENDA, it sounds like it was a bad year for you! I hope with all my heart that next year will be everything that you want- healthy, prosperous, happy, and more.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


Well, it hasn't been a great one exactly. Trying to find a better place to live and then having another biopsy done in October. The biopsy again was negative but the trying to find a new place is hard and getting me down.

Why the need for a new place? A serious issue?

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Wednesday, December 27, 2017 10:25 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


BRENDA, your landlords sound like a-holes. I can't imagine just watching someone that I knew struggling to get to their feet and not helping. Plus the walking situation sounds dangerous. No wonder you want to move.

What is the problem with finding a new place? Rental costs?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Thursday, January 4, 2024 3:09 PM

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Ukraine dumps Russian Christmas, celebrates December 25
https://www.thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/europe-news/2023/12/26/ukrai
ne-christmas-december-25


Social Media Slams The Hell Out Of Tucker Carlson After Claiming Derek Chauvin Did Not Murder the media's SAINT criminal George Floyd
https://hollywoodunlocked.com/social-media-slams-the-hell-out-of-tucke
r-carlson-after-claiming-derek-chauvin-did-not-murder-george-floyd
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Fire at George Floyd mural building in Houston’s historic Third Ward under investigation
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A very idiotic similar appearance to the Jewish menorah used during Hanukkah but Swahili, an East African language, reflects its status as a symbol of Pan-Africanism. Kwanzaa was created in 1966 by radical Black activist Ron Karenga, a felon convicted of assault and false imprisonment after he tortured two women, roots in the black nationalist movement of the 1960s and was established as a means to help African Americans reconnect to jungles and plains of Africa.

Happy Kwanzaa! The Holiday Brought to You by the FBI
https://townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/2023/12/27/happy-kwanzaa-th
e-holiday-brought-to-you-by-the-fbi-n2632896


Joe and Kamala torched over Happy Kwanzaa wishes
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2023/12/27/joe-and-kamala-torched-over-ha
ppy-kwanzaa-wishes-1422864
/

5 facts you need to know about Orthodox Christian Christmas
https://www.rbth.com/lifestyle/337022-russian-orthodox-christmas

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